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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Mahler 5, sensational achievement
个月20号, 我听了一场Mahler NO5.原本的指挥Lorin Mazzel因故没能成行,但乐团
请来了救火的指挥,是来自San Diego 的Music Director Jahja Ling.
我是演出之前三天才得到的通知,当时还在犹豫是否应该换成其他的场次,因为我之所以
在季票中选了这一场多少是因为Mazzel的缘故. Pittsburgh历任的指挥从Fritz Reiner,
Steinberg到 Previn, Mazzel,前两人早已过世,无缘现场,Previn来过,惟有Mazzel繁忙于
NY.Mazzel的指挥纽约爱乐的Mahler还从未听过,这更增加了我对那场音乐会的兴趣.
在一场没有Intermission的音乐会中(前面是Messian的作品),能耐心的听完Mahler
确实不是容易的事情. 事后才知道,因为Jahja Ling是临时来赶场,所以乐团和指挥在下午
又完整的彩排了一次.一天中连续两次演奏这样重量级的作品,对指挥,对乐团都是极大的
考验.
总体来说Jahja Ling的mahler是比较外在的.乐队的铜管发挥了极大的能量,整部作品因而
也比较出彩.
l*********m
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来自主题: Chicago版 - Mahler: Song of the Earth
Mahler: Song of the Earth
One of Mahler’s final works, this series of songs based on Chinese
classical poetry runs the gamut of human experiences with meditations on
love, nature, drinking, solitude and the passing of time. The evening opens
with Polish composer Lutosławski’s tribute to Bartók.
When

Friday, July 1, 2011, 6:30pm – 8:00pm
Saturday, July 2, 2011, 7:30pm – 9:00pm
Where

Harris Theater for Music and Dance
Who

Grant Park Orchestra
Carlos Kalmar, Conductor
Alexandra Pet... 阅读全帖
r*******t
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Concertgoers at the New York Philharmonic Tuesday night did not have to be
musicologists to work out that the marimba was not part of the famous work.
Conductor Alan Gilbert halted the performance of Mahler’s Ninth Symphony
when the offending iPhone ringtone sounded -- and persisted.
Just minutes from the end of the hour and a half-long piece, Gilbert turned
to the phone's owner, seated close to the front of Lincoln Center’s Avery
Fisher Hall in New York City, according to an eyewitness account ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Re: Who likes Mahler No.2? (NULL)

I own both of above but like Walter's more which I once heard from
LP. Meantime, I think I have merely a poor understanding to this work,
vague impression plus indescribable impulsions. In fact, it seems to
me to communicate with Mahler is subtler, deeper thus easier than with
Beethoven for his richer sensitivity. But at once I would to say it's
harder to grip the structural, the spirital meaning in Mahler than in
Beethoven maybe for they have different art ideal as well as doctrine.
If we co
h*******e
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Mahler #7
Everyday, listen to Mahler #7 in evening time. This is the type of music that
you have to listen to it for more than a few times to begin to appreciate.
Beautiful sound. Starting with a rather grey-dark tune in the first movement,
but this kind of darkness is quite hopeful, you know that he will bring the
brightness back sometime during the music. It is true for this very music as
well. but nevertheless the brightness in first mvt was extremely transient.
...
Mahler is a magician in some manner,

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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Mahler - Die zwei blauen Augen
Gustav Mahler
Lieder eines fahrenden Gesellen - Die zwei blauen Augen von meinem Schatz (
Gustav Mahler)
Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau
Wiener Philharmoniker
Wilhelm Furtwängler
Live recording, Salzburg, 19.VIII.1951
Die zwei blauen Augen von meinem Schatz,
Die haben mich in die weite Welt geschickt.
Da mußt ich Abschied nehmen vom allerliebsten Platz!
O Augen blau, warum habt ihr mich angeblickt?
Nun hab' ich ewig Leid und Grämen.
Ich bin ausgegangen in stiller Nacht
Wohl über die dunk... 阅读全帖

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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - "Abloesung in Sommer" Gustav Mahler
Bernarda Fink; "Ablösung in Sommer"; Des Knaben Wunderhorn; Gustav
Mahler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BX6X6F4Azw0
Bernarda Fink--Mezzo-soprano
Antony Spiri--Piano
Gustav Mahler-Ensemble
Tonkünstler-Orchester Niederösterreich
Andrés Orozco-Estrada--Conductor 2014
r*****g
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Lovers and Husbands of Alma Mahler
Gustav Klimt
In her diaries, Alma describes her three principal love-affairs - with Klimt,
Zemlinsky and Mahler - in meticulous detail. Strangely enough, almost every
episode of the Klimt saga is recounted weeks later. The explanationcan be
found in her Autobiography:
"Here our love was cruelly destroyed by my mother. She broke her word of
honour, read the stammerings I wrote down in my diary and hence knew all about
my love-affair. And—horror of horrors—she read that Klimt had kissed me!"
Alexa
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Mahler 's no.1
I really enjoy listening to Mahler 's no.1. It is so dynamical and full
of life, especially the first movement. It is so youthful. He was 27. He
wanted nothing but becoming a composer. It is like a rite of spring or
rather a rite of himself and his virgin symphony. It is serious but full
of youthful passion and longings. He call his first movement the "nature
awakening of long winter", which is full of birdsongs, childlike dreams,
spring brook, country festivals, in the heart of the forrest, c

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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Mahler - Die zwei blauen Augen
Mahler - Die zwei blauen Augen - Fischer-Dieskau / Vienna / Furtwängler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_QzkM5fk2gY
马勒诞辰 听一下 那双蓝眼睛 我爱的男人都有一双湛蓝眼睛

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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - "Abloesung in Sommer" Gustav Mahler
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ftWRM70idJQ
Dietrich Fischer-Dieskau sings "Ablösung im Sommer"
from "Des Knaben Wundehorn" by Gustav Mahler
Leonard Bernstein, piano
New York, 08.XI.1968
R*******e
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来自主题: _LoTaYu版 - Gustav Mahler Symphony No 5
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sQGQyaHaFj4
Gustav Mahler Symphony No 5 in C sharp minor
Published on Apr 24, 2014
Symphony No 5 in C sharp minor
1. Trauermarsch (In gemessenem Schritt - Streng - Wie ein konduckt)
2. Sturmisch bewegt, mit grobter Vehemenz
3. Scherzo (Kraftig, nicht zu schnell)
4. Adagietto (Sehr langsam)
5. Rondo - Finale (Allegro)
NEW PHILHARMONIA ORCHESTRA
SIR JOHN BARBIROLLI, cond.
c**r
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 《大地之歌》中的唐诗 (转载)
发信人: renpeng (Intrepid casual reader), 信区: Arts
标 题: 《大地之歌》中的唐诗
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Aug 11 00:26:54 2005)
大热天里, 又听《大地之歌》. 贴一篇旧文.
Mahler 是在 1907 年看到这些所谓中国诗歌的。这一年用 Alma Mahler 的话来说是
“the beginning of the end for Mahler." 先是 Mahler 最喜欢的大女儿 Maria 病死
在他们的夏日别墅。回到 Vienna 不久,Mahler 被确诊为严重心脏病。短短几个月间,
Mahler 眼中的生活突然间黯淡下来。他感到来日不多了。给 Mahler 的棺材钉进最后一
根钉子的是三年之后 Alma 的外遇。
Mahler 看到的是一本叫《中国之笛》的小册子,那是 Bethge 从法语转译过来的。
Mahler 从中选了六首。分别为男高音和女中音而作。作品完成后,在他给 Bruno Walter
的信中,Mahler 坦白他也不知起个什么名字好。
几首诗歌,历经三手。看一看删了
r*****g
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来自主题: Arts版 - 《大地之歌》中的唐诗
大热天里, 又听《大地之歌》. 贴一篇旧文.
Mahler 是在 1907 年看到这些所谓中国诗歌的。这一年用 Alma Mahler 的话来说是 “the beginning of the end for Mahler." 先是 Mahler 最喜欢的大女儿 Maria 病死在他们的夏日别墅。回到 Vienna 不久,Mahler 被确诊为严重心脏病。短短几个月间,Mahler 眼中的生活突然间黯淡下来。他感到来日不多了。给 Mahler 的棺材钉进最后一根钉子的是三年之后 Alma 的外遇。
Mahler 看到的是一本叫《中国之笛》的小册子,那是 Bethge 从法语转译过来的。Mahler 从中选了六首。分别为男高音和女中音而作。作品完成后,在他给 Bruno Walter 的信中,Mahler 坦白他也不知起个什么名字好。
几首诗歌,历经三手。看一看删了什么、添了什么,是一件很有意思的事情。现在,《大地之歌》中的六首唐诗,已有五首有了确凿的出处。我见到的是英文的再译,尽管逐字逐句,我们也只能看个大概。Bethge 的翻译大刀阔斧,我们也没有仔细推敲的余地。下面是我感兴趣的几首。
f*o
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来自主题: Arts版 - 《大地之歌》中的唐诗
我觉得并不好听。比起他的器乐,更不好欣赏。

“the beginning of the end for Mahler." 先是 Mahler 最喜欢的大女儿 Maria 病死
在他们的夏日别墅。回到 Vienna 不久,Mahler 被确诊为严重心脏病。短短几个月间,
Mahler 眼中的生活突然间黯淡下来。他感到来日不多了。给 Mahler 的棺材钉进最后一
根钉子的是三年之后 Alma 的外遇。
Mahler 从中选了六首。分别为男高音和女中音而作。作品完成后,在他给 Bruno Walter
的信中,Mahler 坦白他也不知起个什么名字好。
大地之歌》中的六首唐诗,已有五首有了确凿的出处。我见到的是英文的再译,尽管逐字
逐句,我们也只能看个大概。Bethge 的翻译大刀阔斧,我们也没有仔细推敲的余地。下
面是我感兴趣的几首。
r*****g
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - The Biggest Rockets (Z)
我发现不看到一点因阴暗的东西,我就无法满足。这篇文章就是挖掘 Mahler 的 ‘dark
side’ 的。不要太当真,读一读还挺有意思。Scarlatti 说得好 “Be less critical,
and your pleasure will increase." 用作者评价 Mahler的话,这篇文章不过是
‘entertainments interlaced with irony and sophistication’。文中除了 Mahler
对 Richard Strauss 的嫉妒这样稍微严肃一点的话题之外,还有不少笑料,像 Disney
花钱请人模仿 Mahler 8, Mahler 的身材和 Calvin Klein 的内衣。
The Biggest Rockets
From the “London Review of Books” letters page: [ 21 September 2000 ]
Alex Ross
Gustav Mahler, Vol. III. Vienna: Triumph and Disillusion (1904 to 1907)
a****g
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来自主题: Arts版 - 《大地之歌》中的唐诗
“the beginning of the end for Mahler." 先是 Mahler 最喜欢的大女儿 Maria 病死
在他们的夏日别墅。回到 Vienna 不久,Mahler 被确诊为严重心脏病。短短几个月间,
Mahler 眼中的生活突然
Mahler 从中选了六首。分别为男高音和女中音而作。作品完成后,在他给 Bruno Walter
的信中,Mahler 坦白他也不知起个什么名字好。
大地之歌》中的六首唐诗,已有五首有了确凿的出处。我见到的是英文的再译,尽管逐字
逐句,我们也只能看个大概。Bethge 的翻译大刀阔斧,我们也没有仔细推敲的余地。下
面是我感兴趣的几首。
o***n
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来自主题: Arts版 - 《大地之歌》中的唐诗
good good!
马勒的作品不太熟悉,这个大地之歌英文叫啥?

“the beginning of the end for Mahler." 先是 Mahler 最喜欢的大女儿 Maria 病死
在他们的夏日别墅。回到 Vienna 不久,Mahler 被确诊为严重心脏病。短短几个月间,
Mahler 眼中的生活突然
Mahler 从中选了六首。分别为男高音和女中音而作。作品完成后,在他给 Bruno Walter
的信中,Mahler 坦白他也不知起个什么名字好。
大地之歌》中的六首唐诗,已有五首有了确凿的出处。我见到的是英文的再译,尽管逐字
逐句,我们也只能看个大概。Bethge 的翻译大刀阔斧,我们也没有仔细推敲的余地。下
面是我感兴趣的几首。
c******n
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来自主题: Military版 - 一个温柔美丽的外F
https://s.yimg.com/ea/img/-/140718/frijuly18_elaineteoh_1280x720-19shi9u.jpg
Melbourne couple Elaine Teoh and Emiel Mahler were travelling to a wedding
in Malaysia when killed aboard Malaysia Airlines flight MH17.
Ms Teoh, originally from Penang in Malaysia, and Mr Mahler, a Dutch national
, were among 298 people killed when the jet was apparently shot down above
disputed territory in eastern Ukraine early on Friday.
The pair, both 27, lived in Melbourne where they worked in the finance
sector.
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马勒交响集里头,偶最想收集audite 给Kubelik 一张一张出的马勒
http://www.amazon.com/Mahler-Symphony-No-1-Gustav/dp/B00004TQUC
本身演绎的不错,重要的是audite制作的很好。
退而求其次,就是这套了。
http://www.amazon.com/Mahler-10-Symphonies-Gustav/dp/B00004SA86
然后,就是经典的伯恩斯坦的
http://www.amazon.com/Mahler-Complete-Symphonies-Orchestral-Son
http://www.amazon.com/Mahler-The-Complete-Symphonies-Bernstein/
以后在写了,要出去吃饭了先。
C*O
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来自主题: Chicago版 - 刚才在门前草坪上的对话
场景:楼主坐在车里 打开车窗散热 播放着最最心爱的CD 同时在整理乱七八糟的东西
路边房屋里走出一美国老头 开始用机器除草 但是噪音刚出现没多久就停止了
老头[朝着楼主的方向]: hey, i heard Mahler!
楼主[既惊且喜地抬头望向窗外]:yes! No.2! [随即下车走向老头]
老头:i didn't expect to hear Mahler in this neighborhood. it's very nice to
meet you.
楼主:me neither. what a nice surprise! you like Mahler?
老头:oh i love Mahler!
楼主[从车里拿出CD盒]:here, Rattle conducting CBSO.
老头:wonderful. some time we should get together to listen to some music.
are you from china?
楼主:yes
老头:we just had a chinese grand daughter a week ago
G********d
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来自主题: HiFi版 - 看了一个星期的audiogon
Thank you so much for your advice.
classical music is diverse. I listen from monteverdi to schoenberg.
Probably none of bookshelves will sound great with Mahler's symphonies or
Wagner's Rings. Quite a lot of monitors/bookshelves might do well with
chamber music. With my budget(maybe below 1000 for used) and within
bookshelves, a compromise shall always be made.
Mahler might be labeled to be dynamic by listeners of old generation. But
some modern recordings of period performance of classical/baro... 阅读全帖
B*******l
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James Levine居然伤退,顶上来的Sean Newhouse还真是挺让人失望的。
贴一个昨天Boston Herald的帖子:
Levine’s out, and BSO struggles with Mahler’s Ninth
By Keith Powers
Friday, February 25, 2011 - Updated 1 day ago
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The injury-plagued James Levine era at the Boston Symphony Orchestra
continues.
Thursday evening, the maestro abruptly canceled his scheduled performance of
Mahler’s Ninth Symphony. BSO managing director... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Fitness版 - [bssd] 奔段视频
看了几段对目前最好的kb DVD的评论,可能对新人选择有些帮助
1. Anthony Diluglio (Art of Strength)
* AoS Training Clinic, vol. 1 (2 discs)
* AoS Providence (original and remake)
* AoS Firepower
* AoS Newport
2. Steve Cotter
* Encyclopedia of Kettlebell Lifting, vol. 1 (5 discs)
* Encyclopedia of Kettlebell Lifting, vol. 2 (6 discs)
* Extreme Kettlebell Workout (4 discs)
* Encyclopedia of Bodyweight Conditioning (3 discs) (not kb
... 阅读全帖
c******t
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来自主题: Fitness版 - [bssd] 奔段视频
看了几段对目前最好的kb DVD的评论,可能对新人选择有些帮助
1. Anthony Diluglio (Art of Strength)
* AoS Training Clinic, vol. 1 (2 discs)
* AoS Providence (original and remake)
* AoS Firepower
* AoS Newport
2. Steve Cotter
* Encyclopedia of Kettlebell Lifting, vol. 1 (5 discs)
* Encyclopedia of Kettlebell Lifting, vol. 2 (6 discs)
* Extreme Kettlebell Workout (4 discs)
* Encyclopedia of Bodyweight Conditioning (3 discs) (not kb
... 阅读全帖
H**p
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 马勒交响曲及版本(1)(转)
找不到第二部分.
我是很晚才听MAHLER的.当时买的第一张是EMI KLEMPERER指挥的MAHLER的
第二"复活"(当时大多数MAHLER 2都做两张CD,觉得贵.只有这张79分钟做在
一张里).坚持听完,真觉得感人至深.
而后来买过SOLTI的第八,虽然有"千人"之名,SOLTI的又是名盘,但根本听不
下去就关了.
我还喜欢第五和第九(前面问的WALTER的MONO版),但不太喜欢大地之歌.
(其他的包括第一,没有听过)
-引者
发信人: hunterkiller (诚心所愿), 信区: Classic
标 题: 马勒交响曲及版本(1)
发信站: 日月光华站 (Fri Mar 1 09:51:04 2002), W******[email protected]
马勒有的人是一听就喜欢上(当然也取决于听的是那部作品),有的则要
经过一段时间。不过,听古典的几乎没有人不喜欢马勒吧?你可能不喜欢
他的某部作品,可是在他的9部交响曲中你总会找到心之所属的。对于在
下,他是除了老柴以外最亲切的。在下以为“信仰”、“爱情”、“自
然”是马勒交响曲的三大主题。每一部交响曲都是马勒的心路
r*****g
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Taste
Charles Rosen 和 Adorno 之间的差距很大。Adorno 常有让人耳目一新的言论,现在人
们对mahler 的很多观点受他的印象很大。以前人们对 Mahler 7 的最后一个乐章持肯定
态度,而今人们转而吹捧中间的三个乐章。 Adorno的分析是,和 Nietzsche类似,
Mahler 善于表现悲观,压抑,绝望,一旦他要歌颂的时候就显得苍白无力。
Rosen 则没有太多有新意的东西,对已经树立起来的权威,他从技术角度加以极力捍卫。
任何试图从其它角度理解权威的努力,都被他认为不够严肃;忽略了,或者说没有认识到
权威的伟大之处。譬如,Beethoven 有如此大名,难道原因只在他的音乐里面吗?其实,
从 Rosen 的书里看得出他对很多问题的见解很清醒,但这都不能动摇他保卫权威的立场
。他是如何过渡的,总让我摸不着头脑。

deserves
an
ignorance:
的坦
有点
的书

Adorno?"
classical
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 下个乐季
为了近一步丰富广大人民的业余文化生活,纽约市的各大演出团体都已经公布了下个乐季
的演出计划。好戏连台,不容错过。最难得的是 Levine 指挥 Boston Symphony
Orchestra 的 Mahler 8。Levine 一直想在 Met 演一次 Mahler 8,但是 Management 的
阻力太大。本来就赔钱,演Mahler 8只会赔得更多。刚到BSO,Levine 就要过这个瘾。正
在顶峰的 Takacs String Quartet 明年一月份要拉 Beethoven complete cycle。Rosen
要在 92nd st Y 连讲带弹三个下午。主题分别是 Chopin, Schumann, Mendelssohn
and Brahms。也就是他的那本 Romantic Generation。
B********s
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - The Greatest (zz from NY Times)
http://www.nytimes.com/2011/01/23/arts/music/23composers.html
The Greatest
By ANTHONY TOMMASINI
HERE goes. This article completes my two-week project to select the top 10 c
lassical music composers in history, not including those still with us. The
argument, laid out in a series of articles, online videos and blog posts, wa
s enlivened by the more than 1,500 informed, challenging, passionate and ins
piring comments from readers of The New York Times. As often as I could, I a
nswered direct quest... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 关於马勒
kschnack said,
ON JULY 30, 2009 ON 1:19 PM
Hello Cristobal,
Thanks for your very good question. Looking at it from a student musician’s
point of view — studying your individual parts and trying to buy the right
scores — here’s what I would do:
If I could swing the money, I’d buy the Universal scores to Nos. 1, 2, 3, 4
, 7, & 9, the latest Kalmus scores to Nos. 6 & 8, and the latest Peters
score (Kubik, 2002) for No. 5. BUT, if money is a big issue, you can buy the
latest Kalmus scores to Nos. 1 ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - Starting a Classical Music Collection
我从一本叫做《Classical Music For Dummies》的书里手动敲过来的可能有typo
List 1: Old Favorites
This list consists of incredibly beautiful pieces that you'll probably
recognize when you hear them:
Bach: Brandenburg Concerto no. 5
Beethoven : Piano Concerto no. 5 (Emperor); Symphonies no. 5 and 9
Bizet: Carmen Suites 1 and 2
Dvorak: Symphony no.9 in E minor (From the New World)
Gershwin: Rhapsody in Blue
Grieg: Piano Concerto in A minor; Peer Gynt Suite no. 1
Handel: Messiah
Haydn: Symphony no. 94 in G major (Surprise... 阅读全帖
l*y
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来自主题: LeisureTime版 - Starting a Classical Music Collection
我从一本叫做《Classical Music For Dummies》的书里手动敲过来的可能有typo
List 1: Old Favorites
This list consists of incredibly beautiful pieces that you'll probably
recognize when you hear them:
Bach: Brandenburg Concerto no. 5
Beethoven : Piano Concerto no. 5 (Emperor); Symphonies no. 5 and 9
Bizet: Carmen Suites 1 and 2
Dvorak: Symphony no.9 in E minor (From the New World)
Gershwin: Rhapsody in Blue
Grieg: Piano Concerto in A minor; Peer Gynt Suite no. 1
Handel: Messiah
Haydn: Symphony no. 94 in G major (Surprise... 阅读全帖
d******0
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来自主题: HiFi版 - 求推荐古典hifi录音
Mahler: Symphony ~ Kubelik
Audite 出的那些。
http://www.amazon.com/Mahler-Symphony-No-1-Gustav/dp/B00004TQUC
d******0
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Igor Stravinsky对你不知道有没有吸引力,这套是最低价格了。自己指挥的版本。
http://www.amazon.com/Works-Igor-Stravinsky/dp/B000PTYUQG
Bruckner 卡卡这套也是比较低的价格,25是最低,40是最高,现在27比较算低了。
http://www.amazon.com/Bruckner-9-Symphonies-Box-Set/dp/B001DCQI
James Levine Conducts Mahler: Symphonies Nos. 1, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 9 & 10
这套10张CD的马勒其实依着20.74价格也是白送了。不妨听听。
http://www.amazon.com/James-Levine-Conducts-Mahler-Symphonies/d
一套wagner的指环14张Cd,你觉得32刀个价格如何?听完了经典solti的录音,和老福
的历史残迹,这套不买来听听岂不是可惜。
http://www.amazon.com/Wagner-Ring-Nibelungen-Marek-Ja... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Parenting版 - 都说逼小孩弹钢琴
最著名乐团:
1 荷兰皇家音乐厅管弦乐团 Royal Concertgebouw Orchestra
2 柏林爱乐乐团 Berlin Philharmonic Orchestra
3 维也纳爱乐乐团 Vienna Philharmonic Orchestra
4 伦敦交响乐团 London Symphony Orchestra
5 芝加哥交响乐团 Chicago Symphony Orchestra
6 巴伐利亚广播交响乐团 Bavarian Radio Symphony
7 克里夫兰管弦乐团 Cleveland Orchestra
8 洛杉矶爱乐乐团 Los Angeles Philharmonic
9 布达佩斯节日乐团 Budapest Festival Orchestra
10 ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: SanFrancisco版 - 哪里可以recycle cd/DVD?
从我们垃圾公司的网站上抄下来的:
You can mail or drop off your unwanted CDs and DVD at GreenCitizen's
Peninsula Drop-Off Center, located on Mahler Road in Burlingame. Just be
sure to separate the disc from the jewel case, and they'll recycle both for
free.
GreenCitizen Peninsula Drop-Off Center
801 Mahler Road Suite I, Burlingame, CA 94010 View address in Google Maps
(650) 288-1369 x103
You can also sell or trade your old CDs and DVDs:
Vinyl Solution RecordsExternal link to www.vinylsolutionrecords.com
151 West... 阅读全帖
v*****r
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来自主题: Fitness版 - [bssd] 奔段视频
KB 的市场还是小所以价格贵
KB流派的训练理念很好
PAVEL TSATSOULINE 的书 很有开创性,也很全面, from strength, mobility,
flexibility
his students includes steve cotter, mike mahler, all have many good
teachings
with or without KB, many of their teachings can be used.
mike mahler actually provided alternative to KB
if you are not big fan of Kettlebell cult, dumbbell should be enough for the
following:
clean and press
swing
turkish get up
(jerk snatch are advanced, optional)
all above can be done with dumbbell, maybe not as conveni... 阅读全帖
v*****r
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来自主题: Fitness版 - [bssd] 奔段视频
找不到那个KB coaches 的帖子re 了。
i check mike mahler 的site.
用alexa 查 了一下
mike mahler 的site 的 alexa rank 最高。 估计online marketing sales 做的好,
art of strength, dragon door 其次。
cotter 的alexa rank 并不高。。。
不知道他们self employee 能赚多少钱。。。
老美男的健身比较 hardcore, kb 的市场较大。
国内 男人会对 kb 热衷吗?
估计他们还是难以从应酬, 娱乐中抽出时间swing KB.
其实大多数 kb 都是made in china
也许可以在解放军和公安推广。。。

70lb
hands
超过1万磅。
v*****r
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来自主题: Fitness版 - [bssd] 奔段视频
KB 的市场还是小所以价格贵
KB流派的训练理念很好
PAVEL TSATSOULINE 的书 很有开创性,也很全面, from strength, mobility,
flexibility
his students includes steve cotter, mike mahler, all have many good
teachings
with or without KB, many of their teachings can be used.
mike mahler actually provided alternative to KB
if you are not big fan of Kettlebell cult, dumbbell should be enough for the
following:
clean and press
swing
turkish get up
(jerk snatch are advanced, optional)
all above can be done with dumbbell, maybe not as conveni... 阅读全帖
v*****r
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来自主题: Fitness版 - [bssd] 奔段视频
找不到那个KB coaches 的帖子re 了。
i check mike mahler 的site.
用alexa 查 了一下
mike mahler 的site 的 alexa rank 最高。 估计online marketing sales 做的好,
art of strength, dragon door 其次。
cotter 的alexa rank 并不高。。。
不知道他们self employee 能赚多少钱。。。
老美男的健身比较 hardcore, kb 的市场较大。
国内 男人会对 kb 热衷吗?
估计他们还是难以从应酬, 娱乐中抽出时间swing KB.
其实大多数 kb 都是made in china
也许可以在解放军和公安推广。。。

70lb
hands
超过1万磅。
v*****r
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我其实随便读,
PAVEL 的方法还是较多的为其他STRENGTH COACH 引用, SUCH AS
BEASTSKILLS, MAHLER, COTTER, AND MANY OTHERS.
PAVEL ENTER THE KB 中提到的 一周三次( HEAVY, MEDIUM, LIGHT , plus some
VARIETY following light/medium day) 的PROGRAM 较好, crossfit 也推荐。
maher 也推荐。
mahler mentioned several good principles (somewhat borrowed from pavel):
1) start with simple but balanced set of exercies, strength(pull, press, core), along with joint mobility flexibility and cardio.
2) balance equation "train = restoration"
it is not very ea... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: Fitness版 - 土鸡起身 70.5lbs
pls check my 24kg KB press left side:
6 reps + 4 reps of push press (max effort 可能7-8reps left side, 9-10 rep
right side, 但想easy going 一些,stay away from failure 可以长期坚持做)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmYD4hp-vgg
use mike mahler's version
觉得抬点头脖子放松一些。
RKC style, front view:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WnipnQc6t48
side view
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQ-RPUYYYso
bup
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TQYXozNJTJg
double press
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O2FAUskHtXY
mahler press
http://www.yo... 阅读全帖
y*****g
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 刚听马9
希望这个能帮到你了。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._9_%28Mahler%29
值得一提, 是 Mahler 在第9前所创作的 " 大地之歌 "。有空的话, CSO 应该去
听这作品, 并认识内里歌词。这可以帮助你了解 Mahler 第9的音乐内容。

但是在第9里 这种突破缺席了 整个交响曲庞大 复杂 然而却空虚无比--就像黑格尔的
哲学体系一样 所以 个人感觉 在写9的时候 马勒可能已经没有精力或意愿再去思考和
自我斗争了
不知道我是否抓住了这部作品 我估计得听了8和10 在看些资料 再听9 才能进一步理解
y*****g
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 刚听马9
我每一次听 马勒的作品, 感受都不一样啊。也讦他的作品实在太长了,要花
上好几小时( 甚至整天时间) 去吟听及阅读曲谱或相关文章。.. 简单来说, 每一次听
马勒( 或别的作曲家 )作品, 我也学了一些新知识了 :D
介绍一本有名的马勒交响曲解读著作:Gustav Mahler : Die Symphonien 。这在
85年由 德国 布赖特科普夫 与 哈特尔 Breitkopf & Hartel 出版社发行。在 93, 97
年 由 Amadeus Press ( Portland , Oregon )翻译为英语发行,英语全名为
" Gustav Mahler The symphonies " , 原作者 Constantin Floros , 翻译 Vernon/
Jutta Wicker
L*******n
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 听马勒7
mahler的作品在技术上并没有太复杂,更多的的确是情感方面的东西。有些人天生理解
mahler的内心想法,有的人则很难。
相反,外行想要理解shostakovich的技术手法几乎是不可能的。涵盖了太多的方面,从
赋格到无调性音乐,又穿插了各种著名的动机。反之shostakovich的内心其实很简单,
一个热爱生活,热爱人民的人,为了音乐可以牺牲很多东西。
y*****g
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 关於马勒
许多时候, 都看到一些 关於马勒作品的录音比较。 但较少看到关於乐谱选取的文
章。
大家又会否认同以下一段所说 ...
Cristobal said,
ON JULY 27, 2009 ON 9:16 AM
Hello
I read your article about Mahler editions. I am a musician (timpanist) I had
realize of this because I had studied Mahler symphonies all of them with my
Dover scores, but I realize that especially timpani parts do not match with
the CDs that I am listening (usually really new recordings ) this happen to
me especially with Number 6. I have the Universal Edition for Mahler3 which
... 阅读全帖
L*******n
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 关於马勒
连beethoven都定不下来,何况bruckner,mahler之流……
不过mahler自己也在篡改beethoven的作品,自己的东西被人搞出那么多版本来也不奇
怪了
y*****g
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来自主题: ClassicalMusic版 - 关於马勒

不是啊 ... 马勒在生前已为他作品作多次修改。 而作品修改前/後的差异可以很大
的。 就以第一交响曲为例( 参看 versions 的一段 ):
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symphony_No._1_(Mahler)
而这是众多版本中, Hamburg 1893 版的录音:
http://www.amazon.com/Mahler-Symphony-Major-Hamburg-Version/dp/
r*****g
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来自主题: Arts版 - 《大地之歌》中的唐诗
不要着急。时间长了,你会爱上它,再也离不开它。它不再难以消化,而是慢慢长
成你身上的一块肉。
Mahler 的交响曲当然是他的主要成就,但是作为 symphonic song writer 的
Mahler 一样不容忽视。谁能听‘悼亡儿之歌’而无动于衷呢?Lied 是浪漫时期
代表性的样式。到了 fin-de-siecle 依然红火,连 Schoenberg 这样干巴的人
物都不得不‘强说愁’。




Walter
?: 逐句,我们也只能看个大概。Bethge 的翻译大刀阔斧,我们也没有仔细推敲的余地。
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