b*****e
发帖数: 5133 | 1 Upcoming Kriss K10 is better. |
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h*h
发帖数: 27852 | 2 建议以后这个花絮制度化，每K10个包子，会员每人每次出4个包子搞个基金。比如这次
兰州可以拿到22个包子的润笔，神马料都可以暴廖。
跳蚤市场1美元可以买到150-200伪币，话说世界上已经很少有比这个更便宜的润笔了 |
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l********r
发帖数: 868 | 3 K10 is a little better than A10 after flop, but it's worse preflop. So he's
indeed loose in this hand. Actually the more important information is: in
the past, when he bet strongly at river after a check at turn, what did he
normally have? puttinmg him on AJ is a little optimistic. He probably would
just check with AJ. |
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l********r
发帖数: 868 | 4 I'll push him all-in. only K10 can beat you but I don't think he has that. W
hatever you bet, he'll put you on Kx (or maybe a failed flush draw bluff). I
f he's got a flush draw, he'll likely fold no matter how much you bet. You c
an only hope he's got a K and call your allin. So your all-in maximize your
expectation.
he
the |
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l********r
发帖数: 868 | 5 hm I didn't notice he's a very tight player. Now it's interesting. The pot i
s about $450 and you need $200 to call. What could he have? If he had K10, h
e slow played and didn't re-raise you on the turn. Is that normal? Why didn'
t he raise you another $75 on the turn? Maybe you're somewhat aggressive and
he expected you to bet first on the river?
If he had AK or K5, then you wouldn't lose. Anyway, I think he either had AK
or K5 and you should call with the 2:1 plus odds. Actually, I think re- |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 6 two hands I met in one night.
1. K4 suited
flop KJ3 , nobody bet
turn 10, I bet 15 , only button called 15$
river 4, i bet 20, he raised to 100$, up to me
2. K10
flop Q109 nobody bet
turn is 3 I bet 15$ , button called, small blind, big blind both called.
river is A , big blind, small blind checked to me , I checked
button bet 80$,everyone fold, up to me
are they both bluffing,or one of them bluff, or both are value bet?( both
image is unknown) |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 7 he show K10 and I lost all. |
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k******t
发帖数: 257 | 8 Every donks can win this game. That what I felt after suffering devasting
beats in FTOPS. Was chipleader in one of the events when 1/3 fields left.
Blinds getting high and shortstacks started to push. I doubled 2 shortstacks
, AQ lost to A6 and QK lost to K10. Then I got AK in BB, every1 folded to SB
who completed. I rasised
to 4BB and SB reraised me 12BB with Q2 puttimg me on a steal. The donkey
called my allin and flopped a duece.
Checking ur tool in Stock board, Great work man.
Msg me a pic |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 9 What a day!
QQ vs KK -400 ( all in bf flop)
K10 top two vs straight -400
AK vs QQ bf flop all in -500
KA vs 77 top two vs set -400
AJ vs KA all in bf flop -100 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 10 Do not know how many blinds you have, if 12bb or less, I guess it is ok to
allin there.
If you have 7th chips, I guess you have around 12BB, it is an OK move.
Since he can 3bet light, or call you light and out flop you. Since he is chip leader, he might call you very light, and out flop u.
All in bet can maximize your fold equity, it is just unfortune that he
picked up a hand dominating u. He may fold KJ , K10, QJ there, after flop it
is really really hard to play AT.
..) 就是CHIP LEADER, 这种情况下用 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 11 How much did you raise? 2X？
chips
shove
K10
holder, |
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l******1
发帖数: 365 | 12 把两次搞混了：）,说的就是第二次。
chips
shove
K10
holder, |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 13 If he is the leader, he is doing that in your favor. Just pick any reasonable
hand, say JQ, K10, A5, Q10 and go. Do not wait, the losing BB/SB is hurting you
much. |
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s****i
发帖数: 30 | 14 我最近很郁闷,kk碰aa的概率几乎100%,真是服了ftp,好不容易抓了aa, allin被k10s
call, flop出来我就知道要跪了,结果还来royal flush,不带这么打击人的. |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 15 Get help from FryKing so I have $ at PS, and experienced a little bit there
I played MTT,micro. Too many fishes there and crazy imf(idiot-moron-fool).
People go all in at 3-way or 4-way with hands like Q7s, A2o, or K10 etc.
Hard to believe. At FTP, there are guys like these, but not this many.
Twice, I fold on river with top pair in 3-way and found I fold the best hand
. The all in guy has button pair(3) and an inside straight draw, the caller
has middel pair(5). The other is kind of like this. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 16 First hand 2 guy call my 3 bet 10X and after flop K10 all in Q10 call.
second hand is even better..
I raise 80c X CO call. button want to steal raise to 3.50$. I 4 bet to 6.50$. CO CALL (not even worried about button reraise all in) button just called. After flop I all in CO called. guess he was not folding his over pair... |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 17 oh and slowplayed K10 straight... ^_^
catch
gut
better profit than bet the river. over all, bet the river and get max value
for it. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 18 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 怎么办？ he is not pushing you out.. he is charging for draw hand, raising for value.
.. so much value to have.. other hand A10 10s AK K10, even Ks apparently,
hands that he could not get avlue anymore once a Q or a spade comes out....
It is so easy for him to say to himself after the hand "oh god, i played
this hand perfectly because i saved myself a stack, i knew he had me beat at
flop" but in fact he just went one step deeper in the weak tight category.
If you have a hand that can take a whole stack |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 19 here is why I called down instead of raising. K10 is at least at middle of his strength. In
fact I think it is above average hand strength for this guy. He could have a
Q which have us crushed or he can have small pocket pairs which we have him
crushed. assume we know that he is firing 3 barrel with his hand. I am
pretty certain of that. If you see his stats, you will feel the same too.
He is one of kind.
so
3.5$ raise preflop pot 8.5$
flop bets 6$ pot 20$
turn bets 13$ pot 46$
rive |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 20 Turn is even better for calling instead of raising for exactly the same
reason except that it will yield even better ev because most of his hand are drawing more dead like K10.. only 6 outs 12% |
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d********a
发帖数: 6 | 21 Very good post. Here are my thoughts on these hands.
[1] Reraise to 40. Definitely don't go all in. What if he has a hand?
[2] Calling or reraising are both fine.
[3] All in. No doubt about this one.
[4] Fine as played.
[5] I would lay down most of the times fearing AA from the guy that goes all
in.
[6] Fine as played.
[7] I would check.
[8] As played, I would fold. Some people play loose. It doesn't mean they
bluff a lot. With this board, he may
very well have an ace.
[9] Check. With so many pe... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 22 这种牌属于玩的时候觉得对手打得不错也很凶,K10 也会raise, 靠后发现他其实就是一个1$/2$桌上的nit, raise 只能是JJ...
不过我觉得A10还是得call. 如果你是Q10, bet/fold, 还说得过去. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 23 66 JJ 对你的range 差不多. AJ KJ 他不可能raise的, 这里除了bluff, 打得好一点的
至少要K10 A10 才会raise. nitty 一点的只有full house 才会raise, maniac 一点的10X都会raise. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 24 这里的关键不是你是十么牌, 而是你的对手这里会raise的range是十么. 我十楼讲的三
种人当然是各有不同打法.
如果是nit, 你是66都可以fold.
如果是loose maniac, 你是K10 都可以reraise all in. |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 25 it probably does not make any difference in this particular hand vs this
particular opponent. But here is what I think we should consider to make
this decision to shove or call.
When we commit more than half of 60$ preflop with 60 behind, we have way
passed the commitment threshold. As long as we never fold post flop, calling
or shoving preflop is exactly the same--we don't make any mistake. Now to
our opponents, she is on the same boat, she has committed more than enough
chips to go all the way... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 26 your understanding of AK AQ is very much flawed. AK/AQ are top 10% strongest
hand in NL holdem. people are afraid of AK AQ mainly because they had bad
experience being stacked by sets. Well this is a problem which you have to
learn to avoid. But, it is more of an issue when you fail to extract maximum
value when your top pair top kicker is the best hand because of this bad
experience. When live fish limp call with 108o, Q3s, it is very profitable to
raise hand vs limpers for value as light as K... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 27 "Ask yourself, would you call the bet if the river card was a different club
(or let's say a total blank)? Generally it is not a good idea to put in
more than 25% of stack with a bluff catcher, it is even worse
when you have chance to keep it small but choose not to."
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Just finished reading your comments. Of course I would call if it wasn't a 10
of clubs.The 200 river bet made his hand range so polarized. He either had
the flush... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 28 写的很好，恭喜！
最失败的slow play
还是在2/5. 我手上有1.4k了。我是big blind. my hand is AA.
raised to 40, 2 ppl called.
flop is flop A83. What a great flop. Cann't be better. no
flush draw, no straigt draw. I checkd.
turn is T. still no flush draw. possible inside straig draw.
I still checked.
river is Q. I bet 65, one guy raise to 150, another guy fold.
I didnot think too much and all in. The guy called, show his
KJ.
I lose 400in this hand. What a stupid slow play
这手牌几乎和我以... 阅读全帖 |
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j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 29 I agree and will fold here too.
Based on your discription of the chinese guy, he >50% made the full house (1
0s or 3s, or even with K10).
Due to stack size, I will not risk.
equity
had
If
KQ
for |
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k******t
发帖数: 257 | 30 All in my mind actually. First feeling is way behind like jupy's.
This guy may not even call raise with K10 out of position based the hands
shown. Then I got doubts like freshair why he wanted to push me away with
boat with over shove.
But I don't think check turn is right. The fish will check behind 100%
with flush draw. You never get his ~250 if blank hit river.
Actual hand the guy got QK and he semi-bluffed me out.Maybe he was just
fearless because he had been hot. I can't beat him anyway as ... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 31 吵完架后，把正事办完，就直奔赌场去了。忘了提一下，上次连赢三次后又跑去赌场玩
了一个晚上，输得很惨。那天我本来都不想去的，感觉头痛，很累，但想想无聊还是跑
去了，结果玩得很烂，而且ON TILT，什么烂牌都玩，一下就输掉600。但还是不想走，
竟然又跑SLOT 上玩，平时很少玩的，当晚自己都觉得疯了，就是不想离开赌场，最后
总共输了900多。回来后后悔得要命，对POKER也有点恐惧了，发誓再也不犯那样的低级
错误了，输几百在SLOT上实在是太不应该了。所以这几天我老老实实的没去赌场，想着
还是先冷静冷静再说。等到今天终于难受了，下午快5点开车去了赌场，不过心里发誓
再也不碰SLOT MACHINE了。
5点钟到了赌场，很多位置，找了张桌子坐下。这个桌子大家都很TIGHT很PASSIVE，所
以我老BET老偷POT，不到1小时我的200 STACK就涨到了400。后来我拿Qc10c EP RAISE
8块，下面小伙子立马CALL，FLOP A 10 3，两张梅花，这种FLOP我肯定BET了，所以就
BET了15，小伙CALL。TURN BLANK，我继续BET个35，谁知小伙ALL IN... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 32 五点开始玩，买了200，输掉一百后又补了一百，然后打到快400，结果桌上一个很
Loose的女人push all in for 200 something with flush draw, FLOP上我已经RAISE
她到50了，TURN我BET她ALL IN，我FLOP THE SET，当然CALL了，结果RIVER来了FLUSH
，把我气得要命。简直就是一DONKEY，你要TURN HIT 到了再ALL IN 也就罢了，连个对
都没有，就剩一张牌的机会竟然还主动全押，在我看来简直是胡来。一下我又掉回到
100多，最后剩80多的时候，PRE-FLOP有人RAISE了，我和她都CALL了，我FLOP 了两对
，主动BET 15，她又CALL，另一人FOLD，TURN我ALL IN 50多，她又CALL，结果HIT到她
的STRAIGHT。气得俺没话说，好吧，你这么走运，这么DONKY，我倒要看看你能玩多久
。所以我又买了200，这两百我决定好好和她玩一下，最后我把我的钱从她哪里赢回来
了。
运气一下也来了，两个小时左右我的200变成了快1500，正寻思者走人的，结果来了这
手牌。我UT... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 33 This hand is played so strangely by villain. My guess is the strongest hand
villain can have is k9 with the turn and river check? I guess he could also
have kj/k10 or ak. Definitely should value bet river with a Q if he has it. I
would probably bet turn when check to. His hand does not look too strong
after he checks turn your hand has good equity but has no showdown value. I
think you can rep 2 pair fine with the flop call reraise since the stack is
fairly deep.
Can not really understand why... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 34 I think you worry too much about balancing and defensing your blind.
Sometimes we should just let it go even if we know button is stealing
especially if he does not like to fold to 3 bet. You are putting yourself in a very bad situation post flop when you 3 bet bluff out of position. you lose more long term than defending the blinds. If you really want to defend and he likes to call 3 bet a lot light, i would rather 3 bet wider for thin value than 3 bet bluff. adding K10s, A9s etc into your 3 b... 阅读全帖 |
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M********g
发帖数: 717 | 35 But I think his balancing from time to time is a good idea. He 3bets 4 times
in a row and no callers. His image was too tight for action. But in order
to execute his original plan to widen his presumed 3bet range, i think maybe
it is better for cmis to call the river and show this hand.
in a very bad situation post flop when you 3 bet bluff out of position. you
lose more long term than defending the blinds. If you really want to defend
and he likes to call 3 bet a lot light, i would rather 3 be... 阅读全帖 |
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g*********d
发帖数: 8125 | 36 I could be very wrong since I am a newbie. Let me talk a bit what I think
and throw the brick out hoping get jade back.
Pre flop he could have a wide range of hands but probably not pair oh 10 or
J
After flop original raiser could be continues bet so I can't put him on a
hand now and the raiser could be trying to take down a pot by semi bluffing
since u checked so he is focusing on MP now. He could have hit straight
already don't wanna ppl draw cards or have a strong flush draw k high with a
pai... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****t
发帖数: 52 | 37 he forgot what he had and thought he had K10
haha
,
calls |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 38 不错.两个人都爱玩,很好,可以共同讨论共同提高.这种high limit的limit game还真要
很多技术,前段时间看你们个个讨论limit game, 我也手痒痒跑去玩了下8-16, 结果输
了400块.感觉大家完全在胡来,怎么bet都bet不走, raise也没用,有个pair或是draw都
是call你到死的. 可怜俺几次hit到top two都是白搭. 玩了那次之后基本就再也不想玩
limit game了, 不太适合我这种风格.很多时候想bet个100都没办法. 不过,我认为8-16
和40-80还是完全不同的level的.看你的分析, 40-80真的是要很多技术很清楚对手的
range才能赢的. K10那盘我最喜欢你的pre-flop 4-bet, 也是因为这个4-bet, 才让V1
和V2都是很被动的玩, 没人敢flop上raise你然后turn c-bet什么的. 说实话,我要么
turn fold, 要不然打到后面river的话我也会call了.因为他要么就有str或flush要么
就什么都没有,有任何一个pair他都不会再bet了.所以总的说来,我觉得你的pre... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 39 Where are you guys from? LA? Maybe I can be friends with your wife someday.
I always want to move to California someday. She is doing very well
considering that she has only been playing poker for a short time. I think
she is very talented in poker.
I changed my Avatar and the website took some time to replace all of my
previous avatar, that's how all the confusion came from. I was confused too.
High Limit/Limit Game requires a lot of skills, which I didn't know
until a Las Vegas dealer told me ... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****t
发帖数: 52 | 40 can ppl actually fold his top two pair on this situation? I mean i think I
will have a such hard time do so. I could fold a AK or KQ some top pair with
good kicker. but really there is no straight, no flush, so the only hand is
88 and you limped in utg. and I'd like to rule that 88s out of the range...
he could have Kx and lied about his hand also.
is folding K10 in such situation a +EV act?
i knew i am a noob just my 2 cents.
了.
ace |
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l*****g
发帖数: 1128 | 41 You might be right. He claimed he had K10 and he said he showed his cards to
the guy who was next to him (and that guy confirmed it), but I didn't see
it. So who knows. However, I folded my top two yesterday on the river in one
hand. Another session I folded my J high flush on the river. In that hand I
raised the villain on the turn and then bet 75 on the river when I hit my
flush. Villain check raised me all in and I folded. I have seen people
folding big hands in this game. This villain told m... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****c
发帖数: 25 | 42 第一，你不应该假装犹疑，越是装越容易露马脚。无论有没牌你都应该poker face。其
次，这种牌不需要tell也能fold. 主要是你当时的形象是怎样？如果还是紧的，你的3
bet已经引起警觉了。这种牌面，他拿什么能call 你。除非是对方很松或许有小概率拿
K10/Q10/J10这样的牌（只剩下一张A，几乎不可能在对方手里）? 但如果这样的牌，你
check了后，turn他也会value bet了。如果对方的range是KQ/KJ/QJ这样的牌，你更希
望他能成顺子，flop上的check是你唯一选择。更多的情况是对方拿88/99/JJ这样的对
子，你基本是榨取不了价值了。即使这样，你还是抱微弱希望他能成小的full house...
总之，你的牌力遥遥领先（对方基本就是drawing dead)，但对方的范围又几乎没有接
的下all in(2 to 1) 的牌。如果要打到all in, 你只能check，引诱对方bluff或者给
对方成牌的机会。 |
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f******k
发帖数: 34 | 43 谢谢指点，我下次再多一些 poker face，也许改变一下策略，改成 check, check,
bet or raise。
第一，你不应该假装犹疑，越是装越容易露马脚。无论有没牌你都应该poker face。其
次，这种牌不需要tell也能fold. 主要是你当时的形象是怎样？如果还是紧的，你的3
bet已经引起警觉了。这种牌面，他拿什么能call 你。除非是对方很松或许有小概率拿
K10/Q10/J10这样的牌（只剩下一张A，几乎不可能在对方手里）? 但如果这样的牌，你
check了后，turn他也会value bet了。如果对方的range是KQ/KJ/QJ这样的牌，你更希
望他能成顺子，flop上的check是你唯一选择。更多的情况是对方拿88/99/JJ这样的对
子，你基本是榨取不了价值了。即使这样，你还是抱微弱希望他能成小的full house...
总之，你的牌力遥遥领先（对方基本就是drawing dead)，但对方的范围又几乎没有接
的下all in(2 to 1) 的牌。如果要打到all in, 你只能check，引诱对方bluff或者给
对方成牌的机会。 |
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w****r
发帖数: 748 | 44 我自己打牌有个原则：每一张牌都不是废牌，都有它的作用，就看你如何灵活地运用。
两副牌一共108张，底8张，我们每个人还有25张牌在手上玩。其中，常主12张，非NT的
时候，主再多24张。那么每张牌该怎么用，它们可以扮演什么样的角色呢？
先说副牌的情况。
副牌的A，前面有人讨论过藏A的问题，我给了一些简单的回复，后面有人做了讨论我都
没有回，因为想到会写一个系统的总结来。作为副的龙头，它的作用真的不是大一手就
完事了的，尤其是对于庄家和庄下家。我们先分析一下出不出A的区别。出A作用：1）
帮对家走了10分（5甚至0）；2）传递信息，AK或者KK，都可以大；3）回收信息，根据
外面的走牌，判断自己的中性对子是否大，典型的如AQJ1010，打完看对10能否走；4）
断门。不出A的好处，概述之，就是，无为而治。
下面结合一些牌型具体来说。如果手上有A K 10 10 (无J或Q)，外加两三张小牌，出A
的意义就非常有限。弄不好，会出现1010被拆的结果。而且如果K在对家，基本上不需
要你的A也能走掉。如果手上有A K 10 5,外加较多张小散牌，或者一个小对子。有人就
会很冲动地打A，再走个小... 阅读全帖 |
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w****r
发帖数: 748 | 45 我自己打牌有个原则：每一张牌都不是废牌，都有它的作用，就看你如何灵活地运用。
两副牌一共108张，底8张，我们每个人还有25张牌在手上玩。其中，常主12张，非NT的
时候，主再多24张。那么每张牌该怎么用，它们可以扮演什么样的角色呢？
先说副牌的情况。
副牌的A，前面有人讨论过藏A的问题，我给了一些简单的回复，后面有人做了讨论我都
没有回，因为想到会写一个系统的总结来。作为副的龙头，它的作用真的不是大一手就
完事了的，尤其是对于庄家和庄下家。我们先分析一下出不出A的区别。出A作用：1）
帮对家走了10分（5甚至0）；2）传递信息，AK或者KK，都可以大；3）回收信息，根据
外面的走牌，判断自己的中性对子是否大，典型的如AQJ1010，打完看对10能否走；4）
断门。不出A的好处，概述之，就是，无为而治。
下面结合一些牌型具体来说。如果手上有A K 10 10 (无J或Q)，外加两三张小牌，出A
的意义就非常有限。弄不好，会出现1010被拆的结果。而且如果K在对家，基本上不需
要你的A也能走掉。如果手上有A K 10 5,外加较多张小散牌，或者一个小对子。有人就
会很冲动地打A，再走个小... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 608 | 46 即使对家打错牌,骂人不好,爆粗口更不应该!
今晚我和robbine75打对家,Gentry中途加入到我们这一桌. 在第二局的时候,Gentry的
对家就悲剧了. 当Gentry发现他对家有大王未先压Gentry的牌时,"fxxx you"就脱口而
出.
说实在的, 在那一局牌中, 他对家没有明显失误: 换成高手是他对家, 碰上实力很强(
事后知道)的庄家(在上手), 这高手也不敢肯定什么时候下大王可以保证从Gentry手中
再拿10分而保光:下早了,Gentry主上没分怎么办? 下晚了,被庄上的主对子清掉了, 还
是拿不到分.
我猜测在robbine75掉对子, Gentry对家陪下一个大王, 我无分, Gentry出K10的那一轮
中, 如果Gentry和我牌交换一下,他也可能不会爆粗口. 但是, 每个人的牌风各不相同,
你不能根据自己的牌情然后希望对家按照你思路来出牌.
Gentry如果不禁口, 建议大家不要和此ID同桌! |
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发帖数: 608 | 47 今天又拿了一次极端牌. 和IMTO打对. 我坐庄, 亮了草花5.我两大王一小王和五个5,
外加13只草花(含三对).副差, 红桃K10扣底后留了余下的Q和7, 外加一对方快3.
心想看能不能打对方小光. 先出对方快3, IMTO对K接牌, 又反打一对方快, 我把红Q7垫
掉. IMTO出对黑K.我杀掉后清主.可怜IMTO就一只主牌草花3. 不过对家还是没机会控制
牌被打了个零分. |
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发帖数: 730 | 48 你裸K105,代表那门25分，一般肯定有别门比那门少的吧？那一般就裸分少那门了，而
且裸K105和裸AK105,单裸K10的差不多，就不讨论了， |
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发帖数: 19062 | 49 三、如何打庄家的对家
要第一时间接过庄家的牌，再传给庄家
不要吝啬你的大主，因为你是保驾的
这个我不太赞同，首先，你得看看你的副能否帮到庄家，如果不能，上了个最大的常住
，出什么呢？反调？那样敌人马上知道你没牌了，我是敌人的话，就不急于上手了，而
庄家，只能出A或者以上的牌了，庄家吊住，说明没副或者不想先手。而要是敌人上手
，那你自己前面还浪费了一张大常住，所以当我自己主还行，又不能帮对家超过2张副
的时候，我一般上个小常住就算了。不过要是你判断对家门门有或者是裸分的时候，就
算只有1个副，还是得努力抢抢，
不是大的对尤其是庄家没有花色的不要出
这个基本同意。出的话除非这门没啥分，或者你肯定外面没K10对
当庄家出过第二轮牌时，你先吧庄家没有副分跑掉庄家的对家小对可以出
看到庄家低没有分，就大刀阔斧
不是你的庄家不要亮牌，很好除外
亮牌这个我前面也说过，如果非要等自己很好才亮，就相当于你对家和2个敌人抢亮牌
，敌人亮到好的机会还是比较大的。怎么亮牌，请看我以前写的亮牌技巧。
当手里的牌就胜5个以内时，要出副牌，以免中了别人副牌双扣，尤其是还没... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2050 | 50 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
jxx (无) 于 (Sun Dec 11 00:40:39 2011, 美东) 提到:
升级拖拉机八十分技巧秘籍
2009-12-29 23:46
先介绍一下打法总纲：要凶凶到底，要稳稳到头。虽然只有短短十个字，但其中已包含
了两种打法。一种是之阳之刚，一种是之阴之柔。
没有人一开始就是高手，起步阶段，还是中归中矩的打法为主，一开始出自己手中的野
牌，出不出的时候就吊主，让对家接手，帮助垫野牌，当然一开始我也是这么打的，当
盘数超过四千盘，慢慢觉得这种打法太被动，两家的好牌出光以后，野牌就成了他人之
宅院了，野牌只有任人宰割的份，在一副副的实战中逐渐开始完善自我的打法，总结他
人打法于自身，逐渐形成了几种比较固定的打法。
当然说的先是庄家的打法。
首先是之阳之刚的清主打法，用孙子兵法来说是先发制人。
正如清主打法之名，这种打法最注重的是清主，先介绍怎么可以清主，四个以上主对就
豪不犹豫选择清主，一般是四个主对的时候，上手就要考虑打主对，一连四对以后，外
面基本上已经没主了，切记当你起了两手主对后... 阅读全帖 |
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