i**y 发帖数: 1170 | 1 I am one of them.... our company has 2 PERMs recently. SO, it is 1/2. I am
just kidding.... |
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s**u 发帖数: 9035 | 4 6650 in FY2010.
This data got from an email from Mr. O to P8388 in Sept 2010.
We are not sure this email is correct. |
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r********n 发帖数: 1162 | 5 2010年PERM分析:
1。FY2010是从10/1/2009-10/1/2010。
2。因为ROW二类没有排期,所以基本上从PERM批准到拿到卡是3个月
3。估计PERM在2010年7月1日以前批准的ROW二类已经拿到卡了
4。所以我们只需要考虑2010年7月1日以后批准的ROW EB2对我们的冲击
5。2010年7月1日以后批准的PERM总共15113,其中烙印7452,老中951,ROW是8000左右
6。这8000ROW对我们FY2011的老中EB2造成冲击,假设其中6000是EB2
7。假设每人带个配偶,6000*2=12000
结论:
1。去年(2009.10-2010.10)之所以剩余名额少就是因为2010年7月1日之前批准的ROW
人太多(7月以前至少5万多批准的,其中至少一半是ROW)
2。2010.07-2010.10批准的ROW EB2估计会用FY2011的名额12000左右
3。需要注意的是最近PERM批准速度加快 |
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S*******r 发帖数: 11017 | 6 今年FB排期猛进,估计FB那边不指望有富余了;EB2-ROW最近PERM批的飞快,劳工部官
方数据都显示analyst review到了Nov-10,没什么可以阻止世界EB2拿名额。现在也就
能指望EB1的溢出了--在更严格的审批下,也许EB1的申请通过率会下降?
如果中国EB2-PERM继续减少下去,有没有可能EB+FB不足7%?FY2010数据显示世界PERM
都有8000,老印7000,中国才900多。 |
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s****t 发帖数: 427 | 7 EB2 ROW consumption last year = 40320 - 6000 - 10000 = 24320.
Now the trend shows that the consumption is (135/207) * 24320 ~ 16K.
eb2-row (fy2011) < eb2-row (fy2010) how could this be true? |
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S*L 发帖数: 1746 | 8 有FY2010那么多能到2006年底俺就很高兴了。 |
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P********e 发帖数: 2610 | 10 好吧
反正,fy2010还没结束。
现在为止,2010 feb -> 2010 Sep 30
一共老中被批了1778个perm
我刚才数据不对 |
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j*******0 发帖数: 44 | 11 I download the perm certified data from http://www.flcdatacenter.com/CasePerm.aspx, And I spend lots of time to filter the table. You guys can do it too. But trust me, they are true.
Only the part "I think there are only around 5000 EB2
in total before FY2010 end and after 7/2007. " is my roughly guess because I
don't know how many EB3 are in those Perm certified case. It should be
around 5000-7000 EB2 perm certified after 7/2007 and before 10/2010. We need
to use US citizen's help to solve the ... 阅读全帖 |
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r********n 发帖数: 1162 | 12 http://www.qesehmk.org/forums/showthread.php?4-EB2-Predictions-
- PD -- FY2007 - FY2008 - FY2009 - FY2010--FY2011(Q1+Q2) --Total
Jan-07 --- 30 -------22 ------ 9 ------ 1 ----- 2 ------- 64
Feb-07 --- 52 -------45 ------20 ------ 5 ----- 1 ------ 123
Mar-07 ---119 ------ 46 ------14 ------ 3 ----- 1 ------ 183
Apr-07 -- 155 ------ 79 ------36 ------ 3 ----- 0 ------ 273
May-07 -- 369 ------110 ------38 ------ 6 ----- 2 ------ 525
Jun-07 -- 493 ------283 ----- 41 ------12 ----- 2 ------ 831
Jul-0... 阅读全帖 |
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G******i 发帖数: 5226 | 13 没看出有啥问题啊?
China的PERM自2006到2010年每年都只有几千个
几乎可以忽略不计
大头出在老印身上
India的PERM自2006到2010年每年数量保持在11K到23K之间
考虑到每年85K的H1B名额大都被老印以各种手段抢占的情况
这个数字很正常啊
再看老印PERM高峰期的07和08年(每年23K的PERM)
也正好发生于由于ICC泛滥
造成H1B名额一周用完不得不抽签的疯狂局面的07和08年
INDIA ----- FY2007 -- FY2008 -- FY2009 -- FY2010 -- FY2011 Q1-Q2 -- CY Total
2005 --------- 393 ------ 27 ------- 5 ------- 1 ------------- 0 ------- 426
2006 ------ 11,461 ----- 108 ------ 54 ------ 11 ------------- 1 ---- 11,635
2007 ------ 12,719 --- 8,335 ----- 962 --- 1,005 -----------... 阅读全帖 |
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A****S 发帖数: 978 | 14 INDIA ----- FY2007 -- FY2008 -- FY2009 -- FY2010 -- FY2011 Q1-Q2 -- CY Total
2005 --------- 393 ------ 27 ------- 5 ------- 1 ------------- 0 ------- 426
2006 ------ 11,461 ----- 108 ------ 54 ------ 11 ------------- 1 ---- 11,635
2007 ------ 12,719 --- 8,335 ----- 962 --- 1,005 ------------ 43 ---- 23,064
2008 ----------- 0 --- 8,099 -- 10,358 --- 3,702 --------- 1,193 ---- 23,352
2009 ----------- 0 ------- 0 ------- 8 -- 15,054 ----------- 940 ---- 16,002
2010 ----------- 0 ------- 0 ------- 0... 阅读全帖 |
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A****S 发帖数: 978 | 15 也就是说每个PERM需要的名额是2.06
FY2010 DHS Yearbook Statistics
I noticed the DHS Yearbook of Immigration Statistics has been published.
Some interesting statistics that we couldn't get from the DOS report.
EB1
The Dependant / Primary ratio for EB1 was 1.40. i.e. each I-140 approval
results in 2.40 I-485 approvals.
EB2
The Dependant / Primary ratio for EB2 was 1.06.
EB3
The Dependant / Primary ratio for EB2 was 1.37.
The overall Dependant / Primary ratio for EB1 - EB3 was 1.25.
http://www.dhs.gov/files/stat... 阅读全帖 |
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s****t 发帖数: 427 | 16 Nice Compilation Veni
Noticed that FY2010 EB2 should be 2.06, so the corrected table becomes:
-EB1 -- Primary - Spouse - Children ---- Total - Ratio
2006 --- 15,070 - 10,440 --- 11,450 --- 36,960 -- 2.45
2007 --- 10,967 -- 7,836 ---- 7,894 --- 26,697 -- 2.43
2008 --- 15,184 - 11,514 ---- 9,980 --- 36,698 -- 2.42
2009 --- 16,806 - 12,685 --- 11,433 --- 40,924 -- 2.44
2010 --- 17,117 - 12,941 --- 10,997 --- 41,055 -- 2.40
Avg. --- 75,114 - 55,416 --- 51,754 -- 182,3... 阅读全帖 |
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r********n 发帖数: 1162 | 17 未来两个月VB走势和数据的分析
1.)17495 C&I PERM with PD 2007 got approved after July 2007. If we assume
half of these 17k are EB2, adding the family factor multiplying 2, we will
get 17k demand from PERM EB2. If we assume we have 3k EB2 NIW demand, we
will get 20k demand from the PD of 2007.
The first half of 2008 will generate at least 13-15k demand. Total demand
from 2007 and Q1/Q2 of 2008 will be close to 33-35k demand.
2.)The Q's Indian website did very good analysis of the data. Totally we
have 500 PERM ... 阅读全帖 |
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r********n 发帖数: 1162 | 18 Another version, but it's close.
- PD -- FY2007 -- FY2008 -- FY2009 -- FY2010 -- FY2011 --- Total ---- %
Jan-07 ---- 58 ------ 29 ------ 17 ------- 1 ------- 3 ----- 108 --- 0.62%
Feb-07 --- 125 ------ 42 ------ 22 ------- 5 ------- 1 ----- 195 --- 1.12%
Mar-07 --- 259 ------ 55 ------ 18 ------- 4 ------- 1 ----- 337 --- 1.93%
Apr-07 --- 702 ------ 71 ------ 24 ------- 3 ------- 0 ----- 800 --- 4.58%
May-07 --- 804 ----- 141 ------ 49 ------ 11 ------- 2 --- 1,007 --- 5.76%
Jun-07 --- 838 -----... 阅读全帖 |
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a****l 发帖数: 8211 | 19 simply, it moved 14 months in fy2010, and probably the same for fy2011, so
very possible another 12 months in fy2012, which put it in the mid-2008.
PERM
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r********n 发帖数: 1162 | 20 I think it is worth explaining why I believe that spare visa that fall to
EB3 will go to EB3-ROW first. I know that some people do not share this view
. It may be a subject that we agree to disagree on.
The law setting out the fact that a country may not exceed 7% is given under
INA 202 (a)(2):
The law which appears to be used for spillover says the following:
There is an argument that INA 202 (A)(5) quoted above only deals with Fall
Across.
In that case INA 202 (a)(3) contains the same language... 阅读全帖 |
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f***r 发帖数: 528 | 22 I grabbed number of certified perm cases from the txt files on flcdatacenter
.com
FY2010
767 2009
3307 2010
FY2009
254 2008
1876 2009
These numbers are for both EB2 and EB3 China.
I dont know how to filter EB2 only data. can someone give some pointers?
by job title and/or prevailing salary? |
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f***r 发帖数: 528 | 23 by filtering out all the "level 1" jobs I got refined data
FY2009
190 2008
1198 2009
FY2010
524 2009
2102 2010
Those should be closer to EB2 China certified perms in those 2 years. again,
NIW not included.
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p***s 发帖数: 584 | 27 多谢回复,明白了。那么其实EB1,2,3只是个类别而已,除了SO并没有其他优先权。每
类名额一样,但EB1最难qualify所以申请人也少,所以一旦qualify进入了,就相当于
可以快点拿到名额。
但还有个问题,
根据2010年EB绿卡实批数据,The total approvals of EB1,2,3 in FY2010:
EB1: 41,026
EB2: 53,872
EB3: 37,669
按理说EB3有40400个名额,为啥批的数量只有37,669呢?
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p*****t 发帖数: 3693 | 28 数据都是USCIS官方网站上来的:
http://www.uscis.gov/portal/site/uscis/menuitem.eb1d4c2a3e5b9ac
vgnextoid=9a1d9ddf801b3210VgnVCM100000b92ca60aRCRD&vgnextchannel=9a1d9ddf801b3210VgnVCM100000b92
ca60aRCRD
从附图可见,2008年USCIS开始打击ICC造假行为之后,中印对H1B的消耗量比率从之前
的1:5.3~1:6.7一下子就降到了1:3.8,这还是在USCIS牛刀小试之下的成果。FY2010
的报告还没出来,但预计这个比例只会继续减小,因为2009年才是USCIS全面整顿H1B的
开始。
所以说“3012之后印度人会涌入美国”之说是站不住脚的,移民局08后后的各种新政策
已经让他们无法象当年那样想来就来,H1B基本上就成了一堵防洪墙。
可以预计新的EB2 filing里中国人的比例会相对增高,因为中国的H1B并没有受到08年
后整顿的影响,在印度人数下降的情况下基本持平。
IV花了那么多精力搞3012,但是越到后... 阅读全帖 |
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H******i 发帖数: 4704 | 30 有事实,有道理。好贴!
9a1d9ddf801b3210VgnVCM100000b92
FY2010 |
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N*******r 发帖数: 1098 | 31 Copied from Trackitt;
Here is an interesting data published by December 29, 2011 by DHS. It was
basically released by USCIS Ombudsman's Office and talks about improving
quality in Extraordinary Ability and other Employment Based Petition
Adjudications.
However, the most interesting part is on Page 6 of the PDF document. Look at
the first graph where number of I-140 receipts filed at both TSC and NSC in
EB2 category have significantly gone down in 2008 and especially in 2009.
Number of EB2 I-140 ... 阅读全帖 |
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p*****a 发帖数: 3634 | 32 Here is an interesting data published by December 29, 2011 by DHS. It was
basically released by USCIS Ombudsman's Office and talks about improving
quality in Extraordinary Ability and other Employment Based Petition
Adjudications.
However, the most interesting part is on Page 6 of the PDF document. Look at
the first graph where number of I-140 receipts filed at both TSC and NSC in
EB2 category have significantly gone down in 2008 and especially in 2009.
Number of EB2 I-140 receipts do pick up in... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******t 发帖数: 2459 | 33 是的. 真正FY2010内递交批准的PERM比FY2009年少了28%.
所以2009PDer的数目被大大低估了.
FY2010PD的数目被高估了.
NVC的事情可能是预计年底PD能走到2011年初设计的. |
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y******0 发帖数: 8807 | 34 我看了一下FY2010 Immigrant Visas Issued and Adjustment of Status Report
有个问题,
Employment based total: 150,262 (大于140,000)
其中:
Eb1 41,026 (大于40,400 可以理解从EB 4和5 fall down)
EB2 53,872 (大于40,400 可以理解从EB 4和5 fall down)
EB3 42,431 (不理解为什么大于40,400)
EB4 11,048 (不理解为什么大于9,940)
EB5 1,885 (小于9,940)
Family Based total: 226,651 (略大于226,000 limit)
在Family based 无多余quote的情况下,请问多出来的10000多quote来自哪里?
谢谢。 |
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s******t 发帖数: 926 | 35 FY2010/2011 EB1 approvals均超过40k,如果EB1 demand稳定,那么20k的140是合理的
估计。即使EB1大幅减少到只有20k,对应10k 140 demand, DD也不是个小数目。如果真
的是这样,那么今年SO数目就会大幅增加,也不是个坏结果。 |
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c*******h 发帖数: 107 | 36 那么短的一个bill,你好好读一下就很清楚了。好吧,俺再解释一下。真是逼着哑巴开
口。
我针对你的帖子的回复,根本不是什么抓住15%不放,而是指出你那句“3012是按照库
存算前二的”是完全错误的,而这正是问题的关键所在。
如果真如你所说“3012是按照库存算前二的”,那老中的确会稳居第二,我也就根本不
会开这个话题。可惜3012明明写着按倒数第二年的实批EB数计算前两名,老中的库存一
直比南棒多,但08,09却出现了南棒比老中实批多的情况。如果这种情况再次发生,比
如说发生在FY2011,而3012从FY2013开始实施,那么3012实施的第一年,前两名EB是老
印和南棒,老中被分到ROW。老印和南棒拿不满85%么? 40K*0.85=34K
FY2010,老印EB2拿到了近20K,南棒拿到了4.8K,两者相加有24.8K,离34K才9K多.这还
是在老印有排期的情况下的数据,放开老印的排期,总数肯定会超过34K。
“人家问你另外85%去哪儿了,你也不正面回答”。我的回答就是85%会被前两名全部吃
掉。
而咱们老中和ROW挤在剩下的15%里,最多只能拿到40K*3.75%=1.5K。... 阅读全帖 |
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s******t 发帖数: 926 | 37 呵呵呵,3012说了,FY2010 485 approvals,谁拿到了SO?2011又是谁拿到了SO?2012
又是谁?老中再不济也能超过7%,其他哪个国家可以超过7%?
即使你是对的,你也说了,至少FY2012还有将近40%的剩余名额给ROW,这40%难道不是
按照PD排队?剩下的人里面,谁能比过咱们老中的PD?难道不是一举清空所有老中库存
?甚至哪怕真的只有15%,那也是6k铁定的,其他ROW都靠边站,一个名额都没有。
还有,你说南棒超过老中,那是总EB,而且你用PERM代替485 demand本身就很搞笑,进
而引申出EB2也是南棒第二就更搞笑。 |
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s******t 发帖数: 926 | 38 呵呵,选择视听真是害人啊,2009年底O说FY2010最多前进到July-October 2005,结
果转年3月份就达到了July 2005,6月份就突破了November 2005,7月份只好又发公告
说BEST CASE SCENARIO是March 2006,实际最后9月份排期是May 2006。
其实随你怎么说,反正今年开闸一共就收了那么多485,EB1多了EB2IC的库存就少,反
之SO就多,总而言之不可能既没有SO又全是EB2IC |
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a***k 发帖数: 1038 | 39 08上半年的PD2012夏绝对能绿?单单07年就有2万多在你前面啊。你是给O的大放水给搞
糊涂了。EB2-IC一年吃2万多名额并不是常态。
这次大放水得益的是08年的PD,批了的完全得益,没批的提前交了485,你别得了便宜
还不满。
In FY2005 EB2-IC received 26k visas in total.
In FY2006 EB2-IC received 7k visas in total.
In FY2007 EB2-IC received 13k visas in total.
In FY2008 EB2-IC received 21.8k visas in total.
In FY2009 EB2-IC received 13.1k visas in total.
In FY2010 EB2-IC received 26.5k visas in total. |
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s******t 发帖数: 926 | 40 He wouldn't even bother to calculate FY2010 inventory. :-) |
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y******i 发帖数: 558 | 43 http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bills/112/hr3012
Official Summary
The following summary was written by the Congressional Research Service, a
nonpartisan arm of the Library of Congress, which serves Congress. GovTrack
did not write and has no control over these summaries.
11/29/2011--Passed House amended. (This measure has not been amended since
it was reported to the House on November 18, 2011. The summary of that
version is repeated here.) Fairness for High-Skilled Immigrants Act of 2011
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v*******o 发帖数: 37 | 45 估计高手们早已把这堆数据分析透了。不过对以下这种现象不太理解(看附件列表。
1 fy2006 - eb少批了六千四百张,fb少批了七千一百张,而在fy2007,eb刚好多批了
一万四千。
2 fy2007 - fb少批了两万三千,而在fy2008, eb刚好就多批了两万三千张。
3 fy2009 - fb少批了一万来张,而在fy2010,eb有刚好多批了一万多张。
4 fy2011 - fb少批了五千张,是否意味2012,eb会批十四万五千张吗?
这spill-over不是不可以carry over的吗?大家怎么看?
此外,去年九月发过一贴子,不知是否还有意思,仅供参考。当时看着排气哗啦啦的进
,意味就是自己在糊弄自己。
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f**u 发帖数: 2769 | 46 NYssgg 提出一个问题,为什么前几年 CP 实批那么多?什么事情的发生使得 2006 年
的 CP 将大幅减少?我想了一下,可能是这样的:
1. 什么人会选择 CP?PERM、I-140 申请人在境外,且没有在美国的长期非移民身份的
,不得不选择 CP。申请人在境内的则既可以 CP 也可以 I-485;但是如果选择 CP 的
话,就没有 EAD 和 AP 可用了,所以一般不会有人选。但是选择 CP 的话,如果排期
到后申请人在境内,仍然可以直接提交 I-485(并通知 NVC 放弃 CP)。当年,I-485
处理非常缓慢,name check 动辄好几年,所以不少人愿意选择 CP,因为处理起来快一
些。
当然,这种选择只有在排期为 C 或接近 C 的情况下才有意义,否则怎么都是等。结论
是,当年很多人选择 CP 的基础是,有些 EB3 类别为 current。
2. EB3 China 排期历史。2001 年 7 月以后、2004 年 12 月以前,中国 EB1/2/3 都
是 C。这不是因为申请人少,而是因为当时一个特殊的 recapture 法案。2005 年开始
,法案失效,... 阅读全帖 |
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O*********e 发帖数: 971 | 47 eb2i 过去几年批的真多啊。
FY2009 10,106
FY2010 19,961
FY2011 23,997 |
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f**u 发帖数: 2769 | 48 比去年多
FY2012 2,429
FY2011 2,129
FY2010 3,513
FY2009 1,027
FY2008 1,981
FY 2008-2009 的数字正是 EB3 打官司的依据。 |
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f**u 发帖数: 2769 | 49 http://www.travel.state.gov/visa/bulletin/bulletin_5803.html
原文
It appears likely that a cut-off date will need to be established for the
China Employment Fifth preference category at some point during second half
of fiscal year 2013. Such action would be delayed as long as possible,
since while number use may be excessive over a 1 to 5 month period, it could
average out to an acceptable level over a longer (e.g., 4 to 9 month)
period. This would be the first time a cut-off date has been estab... 阅读全帖 |
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f**u 发帖数: 2769 | 50 解读:
1. EB2I 的 20,000 数字严重低估,根据本月 demand data 实际应为 39,300。不过不
怎么影响结论。
2. EB2I 和 EB3I 在 FY2013 年底如果是不同排期(C: second half of 2008; I:
first
quarter of 2008),意味着 EB2C 不可能分配到 SO。
3. EB2 C/I 的 SO 总数比往年少 1/3。往年 SO 数量:
EB2C EB2I SO (EB2I+EB2C-2803*2)
FY2012* 5850 19700 19944
FY2011 8257 23997 26648
FY2010 6505 19961 20860
FY2009 3045 10106 7545
* 非官方数字来自 http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/EB23/31813151.html
假如“往年SO”按 20000 个算的话,今年的SO按奥本说法只会有 13000 个左右。根据
demand d... 阅读全帖 |
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