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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 【罗马书恢复本带注释查考】一1:4
“本书中的“圣”字,在希腊文里有:hagios(哈吉欧斯)、hagiosune(哈吉欧苏内
)、hagiazo(哈吉阿奏)、及hagiasmos(哈吉阿斯摩斯),都属同字根,基本意义是
分出,分别”
你在仔细看看到底是不是“基本意义是分出,分别”:
hagiósuné: holiness
Original Word: ἁγιωσύνη, ης, ἡ
Part of Speech: Noun, Feminine
Transliteration: hagiósuné
Phonetic Spelling: (hag-ee-o-soo'-nay)
Short Definition: a holy or sanctified state
Definition: a holy or sanctified state.
Cognate: 42 hagiōsýnē (another feminine noun derived from 40 /há
gios) – holiness (sanctification) which focuses ... 阅读全帖
w******g
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 【罗马书恢复本带注释查考】一1:4
这个词是从Hagios的派生字对不对?字根的意思是“分别”,对不对?
这里的注释是:hagiōsýnē (another feminine noun derived from 40 /há
gios) – holiness (sanctification) which focuses on the Holy Spirit's
influence of preparing the believer for eternity.
注意这里:the Holy Spirit's influence of preparing the believer for eternity
.我认为翻成圣别表达出了influence这个意思,和合本的“圣善”则没有这个意思。
l**********t
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 【福音派版本】 罗马书1:8-17

尼人。
For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ: for it is the power of God
unto salvation to every one that believeth; to the Jew first, and also to
the Greek.
For I am not ashamed of the -
"..This is an anticipation of an objection; for he declares beforehand, that
he cared not for the taunts of the ungodly; and he thus provides a way for
himself, by which he proceeds to pronounce an eulogy on the value of the
gospel, that it might not appear contemptible to the Romans. He indeed
intimates ... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 【福音派版本】罗马书1:18-21

物,就可以晓得,叫人无可推诿。
20. For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are
clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal
power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:
"God is in himself invisible; but as his majesty shines forth in his works
and in his creatures everywhere, men ought in these to acknowledge him, for
they clearly set forth their Maker: and for this reason the Apostle in his
Epistle to the Hebrews says, that this world is a mirror,... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 我说召会的弟兄们,你们真够糊涂的
失去eternal life是何等重要的事情,圣经岂能不说?在堕落后神对人所说的话中,
哪一句提到他们会失去eternal life?
w******g
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 我说召会的弟兄们,你们真够糊涂的
申命记三三27说:“永生的神是你的居所……”,这里的英文是eternal或者of old,
而不是eternal life,所以吕振中译为“古来长存的上帝”,恢复本和修订和合本都译
为“亘古的神”。
请问:约壹五20中的“永生”是指的“神的永生”还是“人的永生”?
再请问:约壹一2中说,“这生命已经显现出来、我们也看见过、现在又作见证、将原
与父同在、且显现与我们那永远的生命、传给你们”,这里永远的生命又是指的“神的
永生”还是“人的永生”?
请回答。
m******d
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 关于“永生”的经文查经
呵呵,各大英文译本只有两种翻译【eternal God】和【God of old】,讲的是神自有
永有的属性。没有“生命”的含义。
而新约里的“永生”,英文大都翻成【eternal life】,说的是一个生命。
比较完毕。
l**********t
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 【基要派版本】罗马书2:1-16

7. To them who by patient continuance in well-doing seek for glory and
honour and immortality, eternal life;
"To them indeed, who by perseverance, etc.; literally, patience; by which
word something more is expressed. For it is perseverance, when one is not
wearied in constantly doing good; but patience also is required in the
saints, by which they may continue firm, though oppressed with various
trials. For Satan suffers them not by a free course to come to the Lord; but
he strives by numberles... 阅读全帖
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Study By: Greg Herrick
http://bible.org/seriespage/study-and-exposition-romans-615-23
A. Introduction
Mahatma Gandhi (1869-1948) “fought” for the freedom of enslaved and oppres
sed peoples for over thirty years and is rightly recognized as one of the wo
rld’s great leaders in this regard. He protested racial legislation in Sout
h Africa and led civil disobedience campaigns in his native India in order t
o secure home rule. He was especially noted for his commitment to non-violen
t ways, his self... 阅读全帖
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B. Translation of Passage in NET
6:15 What then? Shall we sin because we are not under law but under grace? A
bsolutely not!
6:16 Do you not know that if you present yourselves as obedient slaves, you
are slaves to the one you obey, either to sin resulting in death, or obedien
ce resulting in righteousness?
6:17 But thanks be to God that though you were slaves to sin, you obeyed fro
m the heart that pattern of teaching you were entrusted to,
6:18 and having been freed from sin, you became enslav... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 关于Luke 10好撒玛利亚人我的查经
怎么一来就嗅到气氛不大对呀, 大家冷静冷静, 关于这个好撒玛利亚人, 我看到任弟兄
帖子和争议后昨天查了几本查经书, 把我所查到的给大家看一下(7个不同出处)
关于Luke 10好撒玛利亚人我的查经如下:
A. 耶稣描绘人生中(对待他人)最重要的事(10:29-37) (jonahome.net)
7. 显然这个律法师,像那个(年轻)富有的官(路18:21-22)一样,只是嘴上说说
遵守神的“最大的诫命”而已,因为他想通过提问题来“显明自己有理”──“谁是我
的邻舍呢?”请仔细注意耶稣在第36节的问题。
8. *“好撒马利亚人的比喻”是耶稣针对律法师的问题的直接的、特定的回答,即,“
好撒马利亚人的比喻”是为了回答“谁是我的邻舍”的问题。没有任何圣经根据去把这
个比喻解释成象征性的或过分灵意化的。耶稣要通过这段经文的字义理解教导一个非常
丰富的真理。
耶稣实际上是在说:“请你通过作一个好邻舍,向有需要的人表示怜悯,来向我证明你
爱神并爱邻舍吧!”(见约壹3:17)请注意路10:36。
*按照耶稣的意思,我们的邻舍是我们遇到的每一个有需要的人──我们有责任显示怜
悯,只要我们有能力满足... 阅读全帖
h******d
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I think most people do care about those eternal questions. Bible tells us
that "传 道 书 Ecclesiastes 3:11 神 造 万 物 , 各 按 其 时 成 为
美 好 。 又 将 永 生 安 置 在 世 人 心 里 。 ( 永 生 原 文 作 永 远 ) 然
而 神 从 始 至 终 的 作 为 , 人 不 能 参 透 。"
Why do we need eternal life? I don't know.
h******d
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So you think talking about eternity or eternal life is wishful thinking?
h******d
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 永生
You are defining your eternal life with your wonderful imaginations. Thanks.
To me, eternal life is something I believe beautiful but I never know what
exactly it will be like.

b********n
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 精读《启示录》第五章
http://www.whatthehellbook.com/the-book/
We find at the end of the Bible, in Revelation, the description of a final
judgment. We should remember that this is an apocryphal writing. It is full
of imagery, metaphors, symbolism, and dramatic language. It is extremely
difficult to understand and we should be very careful before basing a belief
on this book alone. The NLT translates Revelation 20:13-14 as, “The sea
gave up its dead, and death and the grave gave up their dead. And all were
judged acco... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 海德堡要理问答主日01,6版本对照
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1. Lord's Day
Question 1. What is thy only comfort in life and death?
Answer.
That I with body and soul, both in life and death, (a)
am not my own, (b)
but belong unto my faithful Saviour Jes... 阅读全帖
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3. Lord's Day
Q. 6. Did God then create man so wicked and perverse?
A.
By no means;
but God created man good, (a)
and after his own image, (b)
in true righteousness and holiness, that he might rightly know G... 阅读全帖
C*****e
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - childheart或者永生等回答下
首先,犯罪的都需要被惩罚,就是灭亡。
下面你说具体的不同是吧?
我不知道。但是有不同。
见:
第三十三章 论最后的审判
一、神已经定了日子,借耶稣基督父神已将一切审判的权柄交给1凭公义审判世界2
。在那日,非但堕落的天使要受审判3,就是凡活在世上的众人,都要在基督的审判台前
显露出来,为自己的思想、言语、行为有所陈述,按肉身所行的,或善或恶受报4。
二、神指定此日的目的,是为在选民永远的救恩上5,彰显神怜悯(恩惠)的荣耀,
又在邪恶悖逆的遗弃者的处罚上,彰显神公义的荣耀。那时义人必入永生,领受从主而
来之喜乐与愉快的丰满6;但那不认识神、不顺从耶稣基督的恶人,必被扔到永远的痛苦
中,离开主的面,和□权能的荣光,受永远灭亡的刑罚7。
三、基督既为了阻止众人犯罪,又使敬虔之人在苦难中多得安慰8,就令我们确信将
来必有审判之日;所以他不叫人知道那日子,为的是叫人可以摆脱一切属肉体的安全,
时常儆醒,因为他们不知道什么时辰主要来;就叫他们预备说:主耶稣啊,我愿你快来
。阿们9。
1. 徒十七31。
2. 约五22、27。
3. 林前六3;犹6;彼后二4。
4. 林后五10;传十二14;罗二16... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 海德堡要理问答主日08 (转载)
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8. Lord's Day
Q. 24. How are these articles divided?
A.
Into three parts;
the first is of God the Father, and our creation;
the second of God the Son, and our redemption;... 阅读全帖
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海德堡要理问答主日13
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13. Lord's Day
Q. 33.
Why is Christ called the "only begotten Son" of God, since we are also the c
hildren of God?
A.
Because Christ alone is the eternal and natural Son of God; (a)
but we are children adopted of God, by grace, for his sake. (b)
(a) John 1:1-3,14,18; Heb.1:1,2; John 3:16; 1 John 4:9; Rom.8:32. (b)
Rom.8:15-17; John 1:12; Gal.4:6; Eph.1:5,6.
Q. 34.
Wherefore callest thou him "ou... 阅读全帖
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16. Lord's Day
Q. 40.
Why was it necessary for Christ to humble himself even "unto death"?
A.
Because with respect to the justice and truth of God, (a)
satisfaction for our sins could be made no otherwise, than by the death of t
he Son of God. (b)
(a) Gen.2:17. (b) Rom.8:3,4; Heb.2:9,14,15.
Q. 41.
Why was he also "buried"?
A.
Thereby to prove that he was really dead. (a)
(a) Matt.27:59,60; Luke... 阅读全帖
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22. Lord's Day
Q. 57.
What comfort does the "resurrection of the body" afford thee?
A.
That not only my soul after this life shall be immediately taken up to Chris
t its head; (a)
but also, that this my body, being raised by the power of Christ, shall be r
eunited with my soul, and made like unto the glorious body of Christ. (b)
(a) Luke 16:22; Luke 23:43; Philip.1:21,23. (b) 1 Cor.15:53,54; Job
19:25,26; 1 John 3:2;... 阅读全帖
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29 Lord's Day
Q. 78.
Do then the bread and wine become the very body and blood of Christ?
A.
Not at all: (a)
but as the water in baptism is not changed into the blood of Christ, neither
is the washing away of sin itself, being only the sign and confirmation the
reof appointed of God; (b)
so the brea... 阅读全帖
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31. Lord's Day
Q. 83.
What are the keys of the kingdom of heaven?
A.
The preaching of the holy gospel, and christian discipline, or excommunicati
on out of the christian church; by these two, the kingdom of heaven is opene
d to believers, and shut against unbelievers.
Q. 84.
How is the kingdom of he... 阅读全帖
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38. Lord's Day
Q. 103.
What does God require in the fourth commandment?
A.
First, that the ministry of the gospel and the schools be maintained; (a)
and that I, especially on the sabbath, that is, on the day of rest, diligent
ly frequent the church of God, (b)
to hear his word, (c)
to use the sacram... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - [合集] 查经贴-使徒行传
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Dramaer (不要问我从那里来) 于 (Fri Oct 22 12:02:52 2010, 美东) 提到:
Act 1:1-11 Jesus Taken Up Into Heaven
1In my former book, Theophilus, I wrote about all that Jesus began to do and
to teach 2until the day he was taken up to heaven, after giving
instructions through the Holy Spirit to the apostles he had chosen. 3After
his suffering, he showed himself to these men and gave many convincing
proofs that he was alive. He appeared to them over a period of forty days
... 阅读全帖
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1 The Lake of Fire
(Revelation 19:20, 20:10, 14, 15)
Hell is described in only a few spots throughout the Bible as a place of
fire, and all these descriptions are in the New Testament except for
allegorical stories like Shadrach, Meshech, and Abednego in the fiery
furnace. In God’s Revelation to John, the final end of the world is
depicted as a war between good and evil. The good are not Christians.
Christians are raptured to Heaven before the Great Tribulation begins,
sparing them the horrors t... 阅读全帖
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Our Father’s Plan of Happiness
First, let’s be absolutely clear on what God wants for each of us. He wants
us to have all of the blessings of eternal life. He wants us to become like
Him. To help us do that, He has given us a plan. This plan is based on
eternal truths and is not altered according to the social trends of the day.
At the heart of this plan is the begetting of children, one of the crucial
reasons Adam and Eve left the Garden of Eden (see 2 Nephi 2:19–25; Moses 5:
10–12). They were ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - ZT - Can Humans Become God?
声明:本人不相信以下摩门教的官方信条,转贴仅用于讨论目的。注意2和5。
http://www.lds.org/ldsorg/v/index.jsp?hideNav=1&locale=0&nav=26
These are some of the blessings given to exalted people:
1. They will live eternally in the presence of Heavenly Father and Jesus
Christ (see D&C 76).
2. They will become gods.
3. They will have their righteous family members with them and will be able
to have spirit children also. These spirit children will have the same
relationship to them as we do to our Heavenly Father. They will be an
eterna... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 科尓苏斯这么说过
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Christian_denomination
Catholicism
Main article: Catholicism
These are the churches which claim continuity (based upon Apostolic
Succession) with the early Church.
[edit]Catholic Church
Main article: Catholic Church
The Catholic Church is composed of 23 Rites: the Western or Latin Rite and
the 22 Eastern Rites (i.e., Eastern Catholic Churches).
[edit]The Latin Church
Main article: Latin Rite
The Latin Rite (not to be confused with the Roman Rite, which is one of the
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - bad news and good news
First the bad news.
Because we have sinned we are born separated from God. Without intervention
, we are ineligible for Heaven. This applies to the entire human race. You
are not alone.
Romans 3:23 says, "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;"
Romans 3:10 says, "As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:"
Romans 6:23a "For the wages of sin is death;"
Revelation 21:8 "But the fearful, and unbelieving, and the abominable, and m
urderers, and whoremongers, and sor... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 這個反同牧師說得不錯啊! (转载)
Here you go. You are welcome.
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In the Bible, God repeatedly warns us against any mixing of races ... and
especially against intermarriage and mongrelization. Some of this has been
overlooked because of imperfect translations out of the Hebrew and Greek
languages in which the Bible was written. Let us examine some of these
passages, carefully noting the exact meaning of the words used in the
original tongues.
From the very beginning, the commandmen... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Did God create evil?
Question: "Did God create evil?"
Answer: At first it might seem that if God created all things, then evil
must have been created by God. However, evil is not a “thing” like a rock
or electricity. You cannot have a jar of evil. Evil has no existence of its
own; it is really the absence of good. For example, holes are real but they
only exist in something else. We call the absence of dirt a hole, but it
cannot be separated from the dirt. So when God created, it is true that all
He created was good... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 爱因斯坦的上帝观
True eternity can not have a beginning.
Therefor ascension can not be about acquiring eternal life.
T*****n
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督教先哲反对生育控制
Contraception
Historically, Christians always have condemned contraceptive sex. The two
forms mentioned in the Bible, and sterilization, are
condemned without exception (Gen. 38:9-10, Deut. 23:1). The Fathers of the
Church recognized that in natural law the purpose of sexual intercourse is
procreation; contraceptive sex, which deliberately blocks that natural
purpose, is therefore a violation of natural law.
Every church in Christendom condemned contraception until 1930, whe... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 爱人如己:爱邻如己
Luke 10
29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my
neighbor?”
30 In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho,
when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him
and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down
the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed by on the other side. 32
So too, a Levite, when he came to the place and saw him, passed by on the
other side. 33 But a Samaritan, as h... 阅读全帖
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我把结尾提到开头,以便zhaowendao清楚自己的问题。
我认为你现在的问题:
1.从一个荒谬的角度出发读圣经。怎么不通怎么读。
2.没掌握阅读任何文章的基本方法。
从你的角度理解:
耶稣讲了半天—— 说的是——邻居是帮助你的人,根据爱邻如己,基督徒爱帮助你们
的人就行了。
最后一句,耶稣说——基督徒要帮助所有人甚至是素不相识的人。
这就是你自己无厘头的理解。不要认为耶稣讲话也是那么无厘头。
想想小学语文老师是怎么讲的。上下文!
按你说的,耶稣问那三个人里哪个是邻居,律师说“那个撒玛利亚人”,注意,耶稣没
有说,对,帮你的人就是你的邻居;耶稣说的是,你们应该像那个撒玛利亚人一样做。
要知道,如果撒玛利亚人是一个人的邻居,这个人也是撒玛利亚人的邻居。耶稣说要像
撒玛利亚人学习,就是要我们把自己放在撒玛利亚人的位置,爱所有人,甚至是素不相
识的人,而且这种爱,不是天天挂在嘴上的爱,而是体现在我们的行动中的爱。
Luke 10
29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my
neighbor?”
... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 再谈爱人如己
leonana,zhaowendao,Eloihim 是专业反基督教的人,他们声称基督教是邪教。他们对
圣经的解释几乎必然是与基督教的解释相悖的。
一下是我(一个基督徒)对这段经文的解释,同时还附上ESV study bible的对此段经
文的解释。
圣经经文(NIV)
Luke 10
29 But he wanted to justify himself, so he asked Jesus, “And who is my
neighbor?”
30 In reply Jesus said: “A man was going down from Jerusalem to Jericho,
when he was attacked by robbers. They stripped him of his clothes, beat him
and went away, leaving him half dead. 31 A priest happened to be going down
the same road, and when he saw the man, he passed... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督教是最自由的宗教了
不信教才自由。
从基督徒角度看,其实所有人都是受某种信仰支配。
可能是信金钱,名声,也可能是信上帝的话。但是人信什么就会收获什么样的果实。
Romans 6
19 I am using an example from everyday life because of your human
limitations. Just as you used to offer yourselves as slaves to impurity and
to ever-increasing wickedness, so now offer yourselves as slaves to
righteousness leading to holiness. 20 When you were slaves to sin, you were
free from the control of righteousness. 21 What benefit did you reap at that
time from the things you are now ashamed of? Those things ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 地狱是基督教神学的核心组成部分
讨论地狱,扯信心干嘛?
直白的问题,
1.有没有地狱。
2.地狱是不是永远的。eternal torment
3.是不是永远的火烧。eternal hellfire
你什么观点就说什么呗。
大家都知道传统神学就是地狱永火,永远的烧烤。
新神学,自由神学,个人神学有不同意见,有 annihilationism, 有巨星同学语焉不
详的非永远地狱说,有求道先生地狱终会清空的说法...
都拿出来探讨一下么。
J*******g
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督徒的地狱观
很多人都对地狱感兴趣。尤其是非基督徒。因为基督徒已经得救,可以去天堂。
当我还没接触基督教时,我也知道有个地狱的说法,18层之类的,但是我从来不在乎这
些。因为我相信这都是胡扯。
信主之后,地狱不是基督教重要的问题,但是他还是圣经中写了的。我从网上看到了一
个课程,感觉不错,英文好的可以直接去看https://bible.org/seriespage/session-
10-rapture-and-afterlife 后半部分),我只是把它翻译过来。
地狱是什么样的呢:
黑暗 (Matt. 8:12)
哭泣和咬牙 (Matt. 8:12; 13:50;22:13; 24:51)
火炉 (Matt. 13:50
不灭的火 (Luke 3:17)
无底的深渊 (Rev. 9:1–11)
永远的折磨 (Rev. 14:10–11)
与上帝分离 (2 Thess. 1:9
不同级别的惩罚 (Matt. 11:21–24;Lk. 12:47–48)
永远的毁灭 (2 Thess. 1:9)
火湖 (Rev. 19:20; 21:8)
谁去地狱呢:
撒旦(Rev. 20:10)
恶魔(2 Pet... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督徒的地狱观
很多人都对地狱感兴趣。尤其是非基督徒。因为基督徒已经得救,可以去天堂。
当我还没接触基督教时,我也知道有个地狱的说法,18层之类的,但是我从来不在乎这
些。因为我相信这都是胡扯。
信主之后,地狱不是基督教重要的问题,但是他还是圣经中写了的。我从网上看到了一
个课程,感觉不错,英文好的可以直接去看https://bible.org/seriespage/session-
10-rapture-and-afterlife 后半部分),我只是把它翻译过来。
地狱是什么样的呢:
黑暗 (Matt. 8:12)
哭泣和咬牙 (Matt. 8:12; 13:50;22:13; 24:51)
火炉 (Matt. 13:50
不灭的火 (Luke 3:17)
无底的深渊 (Rev. 9:1–11)
永远的折磨 (Rev. 14:10–11)
与上帝分离 (2 Thess. 1:9
不同级别的惩罚 (Matt. 11:21–24;Lk. 12:47–48)
永远的毁灭 (2 Thess. 1:9)
火湖 (Rev. 19:20; 21:8)
谁去地狱呢:
撒旦(Rev. 20:10)
恶魔(2 Pet... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 地狱是误译

the
There are so many times, it is mentioned that "believe and be saved.", "Your
faith has saved you." It's just so hard to put anything else in. Even
though the man resurrected did not believe, someone else believed Jesus and
their prayer worked.
I agree "believe" is a simplified word. But I think it is a good summary.
Because people believe human work is not responsible for salvation but a
product of salvation. You cannot bump into anyone and start talking about
theology for an hour.
See here... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 地狱是误译

the
There are so many times, it is mentioned that "believe and be saved.", "Your
faith has saved you." It's just so hard to put anything else in. Even
though the man resurrected did not believe, someone else believed Jesus and
their prayer worked.
I agree "believe" is a simplified word. But I think it is a good summary.
Because people believe human work is not responsible for salvation but a
product of salvation. You cannot bump into anyone and start talking about
theology for an hour.
See here... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 关于《圣经》中的神迹的怀疑
什么苦难都是上帝导致的?
反基的观点是如果上帝存在,那么这个世界必然是没有痛苦的,对吧?
既然现在有痛苦,那么上帝必然不存在,对么?
这个逻辑的前提是:上帝会毫无原则的为人类去除一切痛苦。
基督徒相信在亚当吃禁果前,人类是没有这种生离死别的苦难的。但是自从亚当吃了禁
果,痛苦就来到了这个世界。这是人自己选择了作恶导致的。
基督教的上帝是统治宇宙的,但是基督徒之间对上帝是如何统治的也有分歧。有人认为
上帝是一切事情的直接原因甚至说上帝创造了911。有人认为上帝几乎不闻不问。大多
数基督徒是认为上帝对某些事进行干预,某些事不干预。至于上帝管那些不管那些,只
有上帝自己知道,上帝有自己的计划,我们无法完全了解。
虽然我们无法完全了解上帝,但是我们相信圣经中对人们的启示是真的。
你引的那个网站的上帝的标准模型不是基督教的上帝。
People believe that God instills in each of us a unique and everlasting soul.
这条不是公认的。很多人认为灵魂是可以灭亡的。
People believe that we have eterna... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 伯多祿的磐石地位
第二篇 Origins of Peter as Pope
http://www.catholic.com/tracts/origins-of-peter-as-pope
据说你们新教也尊重教会传统——至少到公元5世纪的教会传统,对吧?否则就真变摩
门教了,人家摩门教的教会传统只尊重到第二代宗徒。你也别自己读圣经了,看看教父
们怎么说伯多禄吧——特别看看基要派推崇备至的Augustine怎么说吧
The New Testament contains five different metaphors for the foundation of
the Church (Matt. 16:18, 1 Cor. 3:11, Eph. 2:20, 1 Pet. 2:5–6, Rev. 21:14).
One metaphor that has been disputed is Jesus Christ’s calling the apostle
Peter "rock": "You are Peter, and on this rock I will build my Church, and
th... 阅读全帖
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我老人家摘录的 DECLARATION一些核心部分:
3. The Common Understanding of Justification
14.The Lutheran churches and the Roman Catholic Church have together
listened to the good news proclaimed in Holy Scripture. This common
listening, together with the theological conversations of recent years, has
led to a shared understanding of justification. This encompasses a consensus
in the basic truths; the differing explications in particular statements
are compatible with it.
15.In faith we together hold the convicti... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 亚米纽斯神学
对imputed sin的定义有争议,见下一种观点
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Question: "What is the definition of sin?"
Answer: Sin is described in the Bible as transgression of the law of God (1
John 3:4) and rebellion against God (Deuteronomy 9:7; Joshua 1:18). Sin had
its beginning with Lucifer, probably the most beautiful and powerful of the
angels. Not content with his position, he desired to be higher than God, and
that was his downfall, the beginning of sin (Isaiah 14:12-15). Renamed
Satan, he brought sin to the hum... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 亚米纽斯神学
对imputed sin的定义有争议,见下一种观点
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Question: "What is the definition of sin?"
Answer: Sin is described in the Bible as transgression of the law of God (1
John 3:4) and rebellion against God (Deuteronomy 9:7; Joshua 1:18). Sin had
its beginning with Lucifer, probably the most beautiful and powerful of the
angels. Not content with his position, he desired to be higher than God, and
that was his downfall, the beginning of sin (Isaiah 14:12-15). Renamed
Satan, he brought sin to the hum... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Did God use the "Big Bang" to create?
Did God use the "Big Bang" to create the universe?
Prior to the 20th Century, it was not clear if the universe ever had a
beginning. Had it always existed? No one knew. It was a matter of faith.
Then a succession of discoveries throughout the 20th Century showed beyond a
reasonable doubt that the universe did have a beginning. It wasn't always
here.
First, Einstein's Theory of General Relativity, published in 1916,
suggested that the universe had not always existed. Unsettled by the
implications... 阅读全帖
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