l*****9
发帖数: 9501 | 1 Breaking down Jeremy Lin
JEREMY LIN, NEW YORK KNICKS
By now the details of Jeremy Lin’s unexpected transformation from being an
undrafted non-entity to being an instant legend are well known. Indeed, he
capped his sudden emergence into greatness with a 38-point explosion as the
short-handed Knicks defeated the Lakers on Friday night – New York’s
fourth consecutive win since injuries and desperation forced Mike D’Antoni
to make Lin the team’s starting point guard.
So what exactly does this Asian-... 阅读全帖 |
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m******k
发帖数: 2390 | 2 http://hoopshype.com/columns/rosen/breaking-down-jeremy-lin
Breaking down Jeremy Lin
TagsJeremy Lin, New York Knicks
US Presswire
By now the details of Jeremy Lin’s unexpected transformation
from being an undrafted non-entity to being an instant legend are well known
. Indeed, he capped his sudden emergence into greatness with a 38-point
explosion as the short-handed Knicks defeated the Lakers on Friday night –
New York’s fourth consecutive win since injuries and desperation forced
Mike D’Antoni... 阅读全帖 |
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e***t
发帖数: 14386 | 3 还是得自己搜
The player scoring must score within two dribbles of the basketball. There
is some judgment involved in deciding whether a passer should be credited
with an assist. An assist can be scored for the passer even if the player
who receives the pass makes a basket after dribbling the ball. However, the
original definition of an assist did not include such situations,[1] so the
comparison of assist statistics across eras is a complex matter. |
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s******n
发帖数: 2279 | 4 "The great thing about Jeremy is that he can do everything, so he should be
OK," said Eric Musselman, who coached Lin during his three tours with the
Warriors’ NBA Development League affiliate, the Reno Bighorns, last season.
"He has great quickness and is very deceptive attacking the rim. It’s
almost like he’s on ice skates, his change of direction is so subtle, so
smooth. He can really distribute. His dribble drive to the right is off the
charts, and his dribble drive left is getting better."
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m******k
发帖数: 2390 | 5 be more patient on dribbles, (i.e. do not force the issue, this is
relatively easy when Melo is back)
read more defense plays from opponent (he will get his experience)
practice more on left drive, (this is hard)
stronger upper body build to let the dribble alive (this is the hardest, and
yes he needs more strength once he past opponent's big man in pick-n-roll) |
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 6 这不算什么官方说法，但是在wiki上的，是比较公认的说法。
这里面可有任何legal guarding position的意思？不就是我说的，
连贯的一个动作。
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Assist_%28basketball%29
In basketball, an assist is attributed to a player who passes the ball to a
teammate in a way that leads to a score by field goal, meaning that he or
she was "assisting" in the basket. The player scoring must score within two
dribbles of the basketball. There is some judgment involved in deciding
whether a passer should be credited with an assist. An assist can be... 阅读全帖 |
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l***o
发帖数: 1111 | 7 UP!
下面是英文原文:
The Evolution of a Point Guard
from NYTimes
By HOWARD BECK, Published: February 24, 2012
ORLANDO, Fla. — The most captivating strand of the Jeremy Lin mystique is
that he came from nowhere, emerging overnight to become a star, after being
underestimated and overlooked, disregarded by college coaches, ignored in
the N.B.A. draft and waived twice in two weeks.
The narrative is well-established, factual in its broadest strokes and
altogether flawed, or at least woefully incomplete.
Jer... 阅读全帖 |
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e*******e
发帖数: 9616 | 8 匆忙总结nba里的几大美人
jordan：cluntch time的急停jump shot;off dribble后的颜扣对方早已准备封堵的强力中锋
（尤因）啥的；当然罚球线起跳的平fly低扣也是美感十足
kobe:碎步轻点地面后的发力jump shot,也让人有捉摸不定的悠怨
Tony parker: 快cut以后的tear drop/floater,
Ginobli: 看似简单粗暴的手身／脚分离３步layup+N1
Denver那个小白大前的eurostep
小林：cut in ５人后的近篮lay up+N1,(距离太近的layup反而难进，本人的体会)
jason terry: 3分的射击节奏
nash: 飘逸的dribble
stockton+malon: pick and roll; 带一群队友骑harley davidson去体育馆上班 |
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F*********n
发帖数: 2914 | 9 这是有人对video的解释：
That's not a travel. At 0:30, its clear that he made a jab dribble, took his
first step (left foot) at 0:31 bringing his right foot up. Then the hop
step (landing on both feet) at 0:32. Finally the jump shot at 0:33. I often
use this technique while playing basketball. Of which the most common is:
dribble, first step (right foot) while making a fake pass(going
right), the hop step (landing on both feet) going left and then finally, the
lay up. Manu is just definitely good ... 阅读全帖 |
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m*****g
发帖数: 12253 | 10 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
marylander (Hyperdunk) 于 (Thu Mar 8 08:39:37 2012, 美东) 提到:
这个本身也不是问题，但是跟林书豪不合拍是肯定的---只要Melo站的那边，突破的机
会就完全没有了，防守包夹的时候根本不用管Melo站的那个方向，林书豪就是神仙也突
不进去。
D'Antoni好像对这个就没什么解决方案
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lateleo (lateleo) 于 (Thu Mar 8 11:39:19 2012, 美东) 提到:
这个真是的，melo打了这么多年没啥好成绩，也不知道反思一下。。。
不过话说回来，melo如果不是站桩拿球然后off dribble，命中率也确实惨不忍睹。。。
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lqm1989 (Jeremy Lin) 于 (Thu Mar 8 11:40:51 2012, 美东) 提到:
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s*****c
发帖数: 753 | 11 first, you were asking about receiving a pass and driving to basket.
second, pivot rule applies.
third, you can never travelling while dribbling.
fourth, regarding to your question of end dribble, it is defined as the ball
come to rest on your hands. Of course, now the key is how to determine when
it come to rest. Hold with two hands, or grabbing the ball are two
scenarios. Also, referee will blow the whistle if they think you "palm the
ball", which means they think you grabbed the ball. |
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p******d
发帖数: 284 | 12 接球之后直接上篮，是接到球后可以走两步（脚两次着地）出手，如果空中接球之后双
脚落地而球没有出手的，算是一个stop, 要动pivot foot球必须出手，或者开始运球。
而且如果是运球的话按照规则是pivot foot离开地面之前球必须离开手，但是这个nba
基本不吹。空中接球双脚落地后再跳步，是走步。
比较难吹的travel其实是driving layup, 因为是停止dribble后走两步，但是判断什么
时候停止dribble, 裁判看到的，观众看到的，和球员自己感觉到可以完全不同，呵呵。 |
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T***c
发帖数: 17256 | 13 副主席的运球没有任何问题，进了三分线就不停的变速变相是不可能的--先不说神仙也
没力气整场这么干，去哪儿找那么多地方给你折腾去。
副主席keep the dribble alive的能力是被极度好评，并被认为神似圣纳什的原因之一。
当然这个keep the dribble alive和停进人堆里送给人抢断，分寸怎么把握很关键，副
主席的火候上当然是不如圣纳什那么老道了。 |
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p******d
发帖数: 284 | 14 有个鸟的争议，你在这里死撑而已
再说一遍，这只跟completion of dribbling有关，你可以尽管去感觉你的什么状态，
但是一点关系没有。你要告诉我他右脚触底前拿到球时还在dribble? 原来你运球球是
不用着地的？ |
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e***t
发帖数: 14386 | 15 球触手怎么能算pick up dribble？dribble怎么能不触手？ |
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m******1
发帖数: 86 | 16 If you watch enough Lakers' game, you will agree Nash is indeed not Nash any
more. Nash can no longer control ball well enough and have tons of turnover
while dribbling, which is a big no-no for starting point guard. What make
things worse is Nash's play making is based on his ball control. This is why
Nash now focus more on setting up rhythm and spot shooting while let Kobe
handle ball around paint area. This is definitely smart move for the team
and Nash himself.
Don't take me wrong, I'm not b... 阅读全帖 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 17 你找个正规点的中学甚至小学的体育课看看.上臂小臂dribble都有分开练的.
过肩dribble绕障碍物等等也有分项练.你认为"正确的运球"不需要上臂?
我suppose你说的上肢力量一定是指大肌群的力量吧。正确的拍球特别是拍出高频率的
球，是靠5个手指加上手腕的力量，而协调性可能比这些小关节的力量更重要，和膀子
胸肌背腹有个毛关系，你要真靠膀子拍球，那肯定拍的巨慢 |
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l*****o
发帖数: 19653 | 18 人老了，慢的是腿，而不是手。老鱼防守有多好也说不上，但是在判断球和手臂力量/
速度上，是狠强大的。特别是我哈的进攻套路那么固定，就那么routine的几下dribble
，然后后撤步远投或者分球。我哈突破不少，但都是有初速度的时候。弧顶dribble开
始的突破很少。最要命的是，我哈分球只会往右边分（左手出球）。更要命的是他还老
玩blind pass（因此看不到别人早就卡位准备断他了）。
根本就不用专业人士，我火比赛的时候我大概70%的时候都能预判我哈要干啥。。。
赛 |
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l**********3
发帖数: 10970 | 19 一个dribble可以最多走几步？他一共走了几步？
第一步后有个dribble。球没落地就先第一步了。 |
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 20 你确定是接球多一步再dribble? 还是接球多一步上篮。
lbj这个是接球后先走一步，再dribble。 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 21 [首先,本贴是技术规则贴,谢绝悲壮人士来回帖.
第二,这个规则是否适用于前天Lbj接球没放下的脚步移动,本人不确定.
第三,本人不赞同这个规则.
]
NBA接球可以多一步的.
看来很多人不知道09年开始的新规则阿.所以我贴个文章.记得
当时灌过一轮水.最后结论好像是,人人都能走步了,Lbj优势不大了,hehe.
下面是ESPN的文章:
NBA to alter traveling rules
NBA players will be able to take two steps before they have to stop, pass or
shoot this season.
The NBA has put into writing a rule allowing players on the move to gather t
he ball, after driving or catching it, and then take two steps. Throughout N
BA history, the rulebook said players could take one... 阅读全帖 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 22 这么多人嚷嚷这个走步那个走步.
真正的技术贴,没人看啊.
[首先,本贴是技术规则贴,谢绝悲壮人士来回帖.
第二,这个规则是否适用于前天Lbj接球没放下的脚步移动,本人不确定.
第三,本人不赞同这个规则.
]
NBA接球可以多一步的.
看来很多人不知道09年开始的新规则阿.所以我贴个文章.记得
当时灌过一轮水.最后结论好像是,人人都能走步了,Lbj优势不大了,hehe.
下面是ESPN的文章:
NBA to alter traveling rules
NBA players will be able to take two steps before they have to stop, pass or
shoot this season.
The NBA has put into writing a rule allowing players on the move to gather t
he ball, after driving or catching it, and then take two steps. Throughout N
BA history, the rulebo... 阅读全帖 |
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N*****m
发帖数: 42603 | 23 我咋觉得双手街球后，只能dribble，可是lbj这个球在dribble之前已经交换支撑脚了 |
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s*********h
发帖数: 6288 | 24 shoot after dribble是所有投篮里面最难的……
放眼联盟有多少人能shoot after dribble的？
我知道的只有哈密尔顿和雷阿伦。 |
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v*r
发帖数: 4532 | 25 官方定义
Pull Up Shots: Any jump shot outside 10 feet where a player took 1 or more
dribbles before shooting
詹姆斯的pull up 命中率38.5% 三分命中率27.5%（三分出手1.3次） 所以有效命中率
42.5%
pull up每场得到分数排名第一的是库里 三项命中率 40.9% 35.9% 50.3%
另外挑几个看看
杜兰特 43.0% 42.3% 48.6%
安东尼 36.1% 28.6% 38.4%
凯里欧文 41.9% 42.7% 48.4%
cp3 44.3% 33.8% 48.4%
哈登 36.2% 27.7% 42.3%
利拉德 42.6% 42.3% 54.9%
官方定义 Catch and Shoot: Any jump shot outside of 10 feet where a player
possessed the ball for 2 seconds or less and took no dribbles.
詹... 阅读全帖 |
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i*********r
发帖数: 5101 | 26 he wants dribbling over the backcourt to avoid 8 sec. violation. stupid
decision, dribble through traffic...should ask for TO |
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l*****o
发帖数: 19653 | 27 土火每次输在第四节/加时，显然是后场太弱的原因。。。
林打pg的时候确实让人揪心：
一是无谓dribble太多，站在3分线外一两米dribble个5,6秒，即没有突破也没有Pick&
roll，别人还把防守阵型站好了；
二是不够aggressive。面对对方扑上来的防守，你就得让丫付出代价。Lin每次都是往
后拉，好几次都快中圈了，而队友也没能跑出有效的空位来。殊不知你越退，重心越往
后，越容易被人逼抢和trap。。。
三是，奇怪啊，他明明右手强过左手，现在怎么这么爱左手运球？
还有就是老调重弹了，身体素质确实不成，被lilard crossover那个球，太让人泄气；
被williams断的那个，其实也是纯粹输在启动速度和身体上了（pg这时候不传很正常，
快那么0.1秒，高富帅反而可以给挡一下，直接就是cost to cost的节奏）。。。 |
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t******o
发帖数: 6493 | 28 一是无谓dribble太多，站在3分线外一两米dribble个5,6秒，即没有突破也没有Pick&
roll，别人还把防守阵型站好了；
二是不够aggressive。面对对方扑上来的防守，你就得让丫付出代价。Lin每次都是往
后拉，好几次都快中圈了，而队友也没能跑出有效的空位来。殊不知你越退，重心越往
后，越容易被人逼抢和trap。。。
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光看这个我以为是在说James |
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m*****3
发帖数: 1462 | 29 这是为他辩护的文章
Jeremy Lin unfairly crucified as McHale throws him under bus, while Beverley
given free pass for turnover
"Should Lin call a timeout when he corrals the rebound after having more
than done his defensive job? Certainly. There's no need to dribble up court,
exposing the ball — which allows Blazers veteran Mo Williams to swoop in
from behind for the steal. But it's hardly the main reason the Rockets lose.
Yes, McHale tells all the Rockets to call a timeout if they get the ball and
there's... 阅读全帖 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 30 你不要自行就代表全部“观众”发表意见。
我当时看了的第一反应是球出界了。第二反应是Lin胳膊伸直dribble,太差了。当时我
发帖了。就这两点。很多人当时都有帖子。虎扑无数人发言。“观众”什么看法，不是
你说了就算的。
刚才看了眼clutchfans.有人贴了图，Lillard之前有明显胳膊横过来卡住Lin脖子试图
掏球。
这是个犯规，也是Lin dribble不好被掏的原因。 |
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g***e
发帖数: 4074 | 31 "这两年发现lbj进化了，最后不一定多走，但是突破时一个dribble脚下可以跨n次，这
尼玛就是谁能防啊。"
楼主确实没说过“一个dribble只能走一步”，没有完全一样的措辞。不过，楼主的文
字逻辑能力比较特别，或者文字表达能力比较异于常人。
自己在那里立个靶子说别人是蟹粉，完全没有语文能力——从哪一点看出别人是蟹粉了
？就凭反对你的观点？那几个球都是好球，没走步就是没走步，跟哪个球员没关系。不
明白你是抓不住重点呢，还是顾左右而言他。
nba |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 32 马刺这两场每场至少30分是不持球打法，基本不dribble，靠传球拿的。跟裁判有啥关
系。
热火关键是Lbj身体出问题。防守不给力。
前几场他能让Parker或者卡哇伊慢下来。昨天压根不行。
顺便说下。我觉得必须有防守素质超好的人逼迫马刺的一到两个人做多余的dribble.不
然他们进攻传球太快了，跑死你也防不住的。 |
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e****e
发帖数: 931 | 33 Sounds like a Spur:
"I think the game of basketball is played within three dribbles," Anderson
said in May (per O'Donnell). "If by that third dribble I don't have anything
, I like to give up the ball." |
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c*********y
发帖数: 316 | 34 according to my experience,
you can try some spin moves.
i like tony parker's spin move.
right hand dribble, dribble to left hand and then left hand quickly do the
spin move to the right and lay up.
and also his one step layup is useful too but it's hard to use. |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 35 Ray allen这个多半是说的玩的。或者他是500好质量三分球。你之前不是贴了个link杜
铁说kobe一边和国家队训练
，一边投进800球才走么。
不如下次你试试，进100球看累不累。我怀疑本版很多人能半小时进100个。其中25%三
分球，10%篮下，剩下大概罚球线距离。我都40岁了而且是上一天班，晚上跑完1mile去
投的。中间捡球都是走着去的。
越往后其实越轻松。因为大量临时记忆在身上，我最后几分钟胳膊轻轻一送就进，不瞄
准，很少miss. 出球速度很快。当然我动作不是很标准。
还一个要点，我捡完球不
dribble,左手拿着球，一边休息右臂一边走到下一个点的.所以不累。投篮前我也不
dribble. |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 36 大个能dribble太可怕了
傻芬这次季后赛三个三双了
绝对是被低估了
至少我从前从未注意傻芬还有这一手
膝盖以下dribble cross over小个无压力
他的形象就坏在KiA的傻广告 |
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t**********w
发帖数: 88 | 37 Re "其实这就是评委们失算了，是他们跟不上时代"
应该是在第六场第四节吧，JVG解说，Curry dribble dribble, 稍有一点空间，JVG说
，“Do not take the shot!”话音未落，Curry三分出手，应声入网。
如果，JVG是勇士教练，对Curry会是灾难性的。They are not on the same page. |
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m*****r
发帖数: 1240 | 38 There is no rule against the mere lifting of your pivot foot (or indeed any
foot in any situation). A traveling violation can only possibly be committed
when a lifted foot touches the floor again. Example: Say you dribble and
complete a dribble.Nov 6, 2014
rules - When can you lift your pivot foot and go for a shot ...
sports.stackexchange.com/.../when-can-you-lift-your-pivot-foot-and-go-for... |
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J*******s
发帖数: 2708 | 39 obviously you still live in the past, there are games available from this
summer u don't watch and u chose to watch games from last year, I don't care
what happened before, all I care is who's better right now. Liu as a pg can
't even get the ball past half court, does he expect the center to dribble？
historically Chinese bb team never had a pg that needs to be double teamed
almost every drive, Liu doesn't steal the shots because he doesn't attack,
he doesn't turn the ball over either because he... 阅读全帖 |
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i*******y
发帖数: 1255 | 40 Allen， Miller，都是SPOT UP 3PT打9分，off-dribble的3PT打7分吧。Curry的SPOT
UP和off-dribble的3PT都是9分，所以是第一射手 |
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s*****c
发帖数: 753 | 41 While I believe it is a travel (in FIBA and NCAA), I also know NBA is very
loose in this. Referee will think he is still haven't gain control of the
ball.
See NBA's rule book:
b. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing or upon completion
of a dribble, may take two steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting
the ball. A player who receives the ball while he is progressing must
release the ball to start his dribble before his second step.
The first step occurs when a foot, or ... 阅读全帖 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 42 你要是会dribble,一眼就能看出来一个人的姿势是不是让的。
你仔细看NBA任何一个PG dribble有人防守的时候肩膀，头，
眼睛是什么样的。
你那所谓小女孩steal Curry的录像, Curry什么样的。 |
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c********g
发帖数: 3968 | 43 我说了她是表演投篮，不是打比赛，OK？
你跟我扯什么dribble投还是接球投
其他两个创纪录的人也没法打比赛
稳定性，宋何景罚球也是几百的连进，距离近了当然更好投了，这叫做没有稳定性，说
得真轻巧啊 罚球跟半场投篮能一样？
你既然这么想扯投篮细节，那就说说接球投和off dribble后应该怎样做到提高稳定性 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 44 就不算接球投或者off dribble,
按三分球nba大赛规则，这个小女孩也不可能赢老北京的。
更别说curry了。她扭腰，双手都发力，这全是错的。而且练了那么多，
改不过来了。
罚球距离近，不需要那么大的力量去，练多了倒是有可能赢老北京的。
接球投和off dribble和距离有关。三分线的距离的话，首先力量差距太大，
压根就别想赢。这个小女孩力量太差，姿势也不对，远投赢老北京那是不可能的。
远投首先上肢力量要过硬，不够就练。不然像这个小女孩
这种吉尼斯动作，左手加力，扭腰加力都是破坏命中率。 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 45 我来总结下：
1.dribble
小女孩steal Curry好几个。我认为是送的。
这就好比咱俩训练，你故意往左边扑一下，帮助我练习往右突破
过人一样。
有人认为是Curry不小心，所以被steal了。我认为这不可能。
Jeremy Lin这种dribble基础不是很好的都不可能。
2.投篮
我认为吉尼斯投篮小女孩力量技术都不行。不可能远投赢Lbj
这个level的。视频只是挑出来一个点连续准的时候给你看下。
主要错误是她扭腰补偿力量太厉害，这样不可能有一致性。
倒是那个老教练的慢三分，有可取之处。 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 46 个人浅见：
库日天唯一弱点就是左侧的dribble in之后的投篮了。
他命中率最低的就是左侧肋部。
现在他左边中距离提高很多。但还是相对弱点。
打勇士最后颜射杜铁那球，我看了好几遍。
杜铁已经防的很好了，如果是左边，库日天就难了。
敌人应该想办法让库日天走左边。挡拆后mismatch了，
不要上去很多人，放一个人防守他就可以了。
日天传球出神入化，勇士配合好,围上去会被他传球。
前面勇士有个球，日天dribble左边进去，
三个OKC的围上去，完全是错误的。结果被传出去一个easy shot。
不如赌一下一个人限制他，赌他左边中距离不准。 |
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c********g
发帖数: 3968 | 47 自己看吧，mit上的人不需要翻译了吧
nba官网上的对执行副总裁的采访
Rules changes have freed shooters, allowed offenses to soar
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/04/09/stujackson/index.ht
SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow fo
r more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or bod
y-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration.
As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball ha
ndler as well as shots for teamma... 阅读全帖 |
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c********g
发帖数: 3968 | 48 自己看吧，mit上的人不需要翻译了吧
nba官网上的对执行副总裁的采访
Rules changes have freed shooters, allowed offenses to soar
http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/04/09/stujackson/index.ht
SJ: No. The scoring increase was not our goal. Our objective was to allow fo
r more offensive freedom by not allowing defenders to hand-, forearm- or bod
y-check ball handlers. By doing so, we encouraged more dribble penetration.
As players penetrated more, it produced higher quality shots for the ball ha
ndler as well as shots for teamma... 阅读全帖 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 49 Curry这一伤，说不定能把汤森德隐藏属性锻炼和开发出来。
汤森放历史上，也已经是殿堂级射手了。退役说不定能超Allen。
感觉两个地方他可以提高：
1.防守时候可以多一点身体对抗。学习一哥。
2.进攻时候多一点点dribble in的急停跳投，来补充他的三分。
他个高身长，再提高点dribble,无敌了。 |
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g****t
发帖数: 31659 | 50 Parker dribble dribble 没人管，于是人家jumper了 |
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