g***l
发帖数: 18555 | 1 从罗斯福新政以来,扶植起来的二房,支持民众买房,这就是著名的AMERICAN DREAM
美国DREAM就此完全破灭,你说美国人应该衰不衰? |
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c*****t
发帖数: 10738 | 2 american dream is BS. american dream == buying a house with mortgage is
super duper BS. |
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g***l
发帖数: 18555 | 3 我公司里哪家没有房啊?给美国贷款不好,给欧洲贷款更糟糕,现在世界还是削尖了脑袋
给美国人贷款,不要粪世鸡俗,中国人自己贷不到款,攒了钱给美国人买房,这就是事实. |
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w*******o
发帖数: 6125 | 4 从Trading的角度看,如果天上人间(NYSE)对小姐(FNM)说，"你以后别来这里上班了，另
谋出路吧"，这还不算Fundamental changed,怎么才算?
当然，从公司营运的角度看,你可能Argue你说的Fundamental是这个小姐本身的资色.
(Capability of marking money)没什么改变,balabala
...但如果这个本来就是赔本的无底洞呢?, no change is bad news. |
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h*********e
发帖数: 6226 | 5 如果你最近跟卖房子的，卖保险的谈过，他们经常说的就是贷款市场如何差，看来不是
空穴来风 |
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c*****t
发帖数: 10738 | 6 so? can these investors make money from these mortgage if 30 years fixed is
only 4.5%? FNM indeed has a business, but its business now is to lose money
on behalf of gov. |
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g***l
发帖数: 18555 | 8 技术上REVERSE SPLIT本来是可行的,现在是政府DELIST它,别抱有幻想了 |
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r*****t
发帖数: 7278 | 9 一句话，两房就是几乎所有股票的明天。我说的是几乎所有。有例外不到1%。
历史上的股票几乎最终的结局都是被delist或者稍微好一点的被收购。能够存活过50年
的是少而又少。100年的更加是奇货可居。
股票，一开始是好的东西，要是企业按照良心办事情是好的。
要是证券商按照良心办事也是好的。
可是，有人的地方就有罪恶，特别是和钱沾染的地方。
企业本意发行股票的目的是积资。为了扩展生意贷款。
比起从银行贷款而言，这样一方面不用归还。用的是自己企业的所有权个让。
打字累了，不想写了。
总结就是股票就是官商勾结的产物，和吸血的生意。 |
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m******8
发帖数: 96 | 10 It is just another bear market. Many delisted companies eventually vanish,
but some survive and go public again. GM is planning IPO soon. Generally
public companies have better access to capital than private firms. To expand
to a certain level, they have to go public. And many founders still hold
large stacks after going public. It is part of capitalism. There are bad
stocks that you need to avoid, but there are still plenty of good ones you
can invest.
Staying away from stock market is also a c |
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c***m
发帖数: 2630 | 11 building contracts and building permits news show housing can't pull economy
back into track for at least half an year.
FNM delist is big hint for this fact.
Market should be at least 1.5%. I bet MM is setting it up for bull trap. |
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c***m
发帖数: 2630 | 12 sorry, but i disagree. Home builder was up 40% last two months. It just
dropped three weeks ago since HOV report the earning.
Did you expect FNM delist? I didn't. |
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g****7
发帖数: 1104 | 13 股票从长期来看还有价值么？
似乎现在开始涨了一些 |
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g***l
发帖数: 18555 | 14 BULLSHIT,去了OTC就没有TRADING VALUE了,根本就没人买,二房的价值就是它的TRADING
VALUE |
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g***l
发帖数: 18555 | 15 二房的DELIST给各大濒临破产的公司敲响了警钟,政府根本不在乎你破不破产. |
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c*******7
发帖数: 3763 | 16 在此澄清一个问题：两房此次DELIST并不是破产。
至于ABK，到目前还不能摆脱破产的阴影和可能，最好还是不要碰。。。 |
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g***l
发帖数: 18555 | 17 OTC的特点就是没人买，FNM本身也没有价值了，政府DELIST的目的已经很明确了，两三
年内翻不了身，就别挂在那了。 |
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p******3
发帖数: 43 | 18 I had 6000 shares of FNM this morning and the average price was around $1.10.
After reading the bad delisting news around 9:15am (EST), I did the
following before the market open:
1) place limit sell order 2000 shares @0.85 (luckly enough sold @0.90)
2) place stop limit sell order 2000 shares @0.75 (sold @0.75)
3) During the first 30 minutes after the open, I watched the price went down
to 0.65 and bounced back to 0.74 then down to 0.51 (should have sold the
other 2000 around 0.7).
4) buy 3000 |
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D*********h
发帖数: 209 | 19 delist 又不是BK，7月6号前冲到1块， 大有希望。 就算是BK或restructuring， 10个
里面7，8个都是当天猛降， 后几天， 大反弹。 |
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s*********m
发帖数: 2043 | 20 fnm还会比c好？今天fnm不是被delist了吗? |
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c**2
发帖数: 8496 | 21 for next few days, FNM will stay around $0.35 to $0.4x. It can have some
quick and short peaks over 0.5 for MM (and anyone) who want to escape. But
eventually, it will be 0.3 or lower the day before delisting. |
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g***l
发帖数: 18555 | 22 One time safe issue almost smashed down Toyota. I am not surprised if BP got
killed by the world's biggest oil spill in the history. US goverment can
delist FNM/FRE today, it can also kill BP like little ant.The only reason US
goverment keeps BP alive is to let them cleanup and pay pay pay. |
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h********e
发帖数: 1972 | 23 没买过。。要我会等下周1再捞哈。。应该有机会日内再下1。。而且这样捞起来应该更
保险些吧：）CMZ这种垃圾家产都快被他ceo卖光了。。不知道啥时候delist。。下1大
半年了 |
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T********e
发帖数: 363 | 24 The delisting of the two U.S. mortgage giants from the stock market would
naturally make the bonds of the two companies less attractive on the market,
and inevitably reduce their worth, Chinese experts believe.
这和标题还有你说的哀嚎相去甚远
要知道很多人都是看到2F股票损失99%来看债券的
还有把退市和破产画等号的 |
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c**2
发帖数: 8496 | 25 After its crash from $4 to $1.5, many people guessed it, bought it under 1.8
and expect quick bucks when it climbed back to 2.3, but nobody in right
mind this summer would chase it over $2.2-2.4. The fact is MM pumped it up
to $2.8 and then left, and the price now is below $1
The FNM/FRE are following the same path, now is the rebound phase (FNM from
0.37 to 0.4x and may go even higher) but you know in no more than 2 weeks,
it's going to probe new bottom and then delist. (PCBC's common stock |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 26 "Citi is a billion shares of nothing."
LOL. Another way of saying C, as well as every other TBTF, is a delisting
like FNM/FRM waiting to happen. |
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 27 It looks that Fuqi prepares to delist from Nasdaq. Fuqi scam goes to $1. |
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c**2
发帖数: 8496 | 28 FNM, when is the delist date, next week? Then I don't even know how you can
sell it. |
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c*****t
发帖数: 10738 | 29 delist news一出来我就说过两房如果能short到，就是money on the floor. |
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c**2
发帖数: 8496 | 31 fnm fre are ready for their delist.
bbi (blockbuster) is gone?
yrcw and zlc are not far behind. |
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c**2
发帖数: 8496 | 32 BBI just got delist. BBI only had one day notice, but FNM and FRE got like
4 weeks notice.
I had BBI once when it was $0.4x, earned a couple of hundred $ on it. |
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r*****t
发帖数: 7278 | 33 那就看吧，要是我这个星期其他赚钱的可以弥补这个500刀的话，我就继续hold。
YRCW就是不知道什么时候reverse split。要不赶快，到了八月底就要被delist了。 |
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w****k
发帖数: 10542 | 34 谢谢大牛，我一般不买这种小波动的股票，除非他有破产或delist的消息。 |
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w****k
发帖数: 10542 | 35 是啊。没查到amr要破产或delist的消息啊。 |
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C******N
发帖数: 29 | 36 小青蛙问问，yrcw 虽然是个垃圾股的价格，但是也算个500强的公司，价格没有超过1
快很久，9月一号就到期被delist，但是这几天没有显示被除名，也没有显示延期成功
。我想问问现在买有没有风险。 |
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c*******r
发帖数: 6971 | 37 delist可能性不大，因为公司早就原则同意并股5：1 or 20：1
YMYD
1 |
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f*********0
发帖数: 861 | 38 这孙子股票,还500强呢,我刚买了点就要delist了,还好买得不多,清0了也没多少.说不
定缓过来了,也不一定. |
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C******N
发帖数: 29 | 39 不是说延期内升到一块也不用delist么？如果延期同意，不就代表有可能升上去么,不用并股么？ |
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m********0
发帖数: 2717 | 41 delist my name from the title please, I felt ashamed to be talked about
together with GnG. He/She is beginner. Nevertheless, I will kill my ID
soon |
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b******r
发帖数: 16603 | 42 Usually a delisted stock from Nasdaq or NYSE will continue to be traded at
otcbb market. |
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y***r
发帖数: 16594 | 43 前几天听人说他加家要delist，我就short了几百股，一不小心烧死了。 |
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j*****7
发帖数: 4348 | 44 Delist也不是一定跌啊， 烧的理由不充分啊， 和你老枪的身份不符。 |
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L*****3
发帖数: 922 | 45 一般来说revese split一个是为了庄可以操作（很多庄5块股以下不许操作），还有就
是为了防止被delist。
现在估计还有庄在里面，但在市场确认这股要chpt11之前庄是主作空还是主做多真不好
说。不过按照往常，一旦大家认定他家要chpt11了，庄一般会做多杀熊。 |
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t******g
发帖数: 462 | 46 Tongxin said it will re-apply for trading on Nasdaq after the audit
committee completes its investigation and the company files its annual
report. |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 47 Nuts. You BAC holders are like that HELLOGIRL or HELLOVEGIRL (or however
the hell her ID was spelled) that went all in on the FNM bomb thinking
it's great investment ONLY TO BE DELISTED later on. |
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s*******e
发帖数: 68 | 48 My findings from last night:
this stork was delisted from NYSE to Pinksheet, and then to AMEX until now.
So pay attention if you do not have level 2 quote:
15 MINUMTES DELAY FROM GOOGLE FINANCE.... |
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t******g
发帖数: 462 | 49 wu ya yi xia
what if they didn't get the refile in time and delisted...
All risk need to be considered |
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g*****0
发帖数: 887 | 50 DYP 要么double 要么 delist 对于我来说 只有这两个选择。 |
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