n********h
发帖数: 13135 | 1 I am one of six adult children of gay parents who recently filed amicus
briefs with the US Supreme Court, asking the Court to respect the authority
of citizens to keep the original definition of marriage: a union between one
man and one woman to the exclusion of all others, so that children may know
and may be raised by their biological parents. I also live in Canada, where
same-sex marriage was federally mandated in 2005.
I am the daughter of a gay father who died of AIDS. I described my
experi... 阅读全帖 |
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f**********n
发帖数: 29853 | 2 https://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/news/judge-denies-blogger-
retrial-oregon-defamation-case
is the closest one I can find. this case is between two private figures.
I believe that happylife is a plain private figure, thus is entitled the
same privacy protection as everybody here. As moonlight is not anyway close
to media reporter, she doesn't have any protection from the first amendment.
don't hold me on this, I am just a tube cleaner too. |
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f**********n
发帖数: 29853 | 3 https://www.rcfp.org/browse-media-law-resources/news/judge-denies-blogger-
retrial-oregon-defamation-case
is the closest one I can find. this case is between two private figures.
I believe that happylife is a plain private figure, thus is entitled the
same privacy protection as everybody here. As moonlight is not anyway close
to media reporter, she doesn't have any protection from the first amendment.
don't hold me on this, I am just a tube cleaner too. |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 4 The ant works hard, in the withering heat, all summer long. He builds his
house and stores supplies for the winter.
The grasshopper thinks that the ant is a fool.He laughs, dances and plays
the summer away, preparing nothing for the coming winter.
Winter comes, the ant is safe and warm. The shivering grasshopper calls a
press conference and demands to know why the ant should be allowed to be
warm and fed, while others are cold and starving!
CBS, NBC, ABC & CNN show up to provide pictures of shiv... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****p
发帖数: 9649 | 5 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: theislander1 (Peace de Wars), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: Zimmerman案始末（长，慎入）
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jul 14 16:27:19 2013, 美东)
事情经过很简单，某雨夜，社区治保队员ZIMMERMAN在自己居住的封闭小区义务巡逻，
发现一个陌生黑人少年可能吸了毒，在该小区东张西望乱窜。他上前去问，并打了911
电话报警，911让他不要继续跟踪，但他还是跟踪了一段，之后跟丢了。他向自己的汽
车走过去。但在他到达汽车之前，黑人攻击了他，把他头部按在水泥地上撞，打得他鼻
青脸肿，后脑流血。他右手拔枪，单手贴近自己身体射击，一枪击毙了黑人。
此事不要说警察，常人就推断出ZIMMERMAN不会无故枪击黑人的。他如果存心开枪，就
大概不会事前打911报警；如果他拔枪在手，黑人也肯定不敢殴打他了。所以应该是黑
人觉得他没枪才去攻击他的，正当防卫是成立的。所谓ZIMMERMAN跟踪黑人，并不妨碍
他行使正当防卫。先动手的一方不能行使正当防卫，但先动口就无... 阅读全帖 |
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k********8
发帖数: 7948 | 6 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: theislander1 (Peace de Wars), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: Zimmerman案始末（长，慎入）
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jul 14 16:27:19 2013, 美东)
事情经过很简单，某雨夜，社区治保队员ZIMMERMAN在自己居住的封闭小区义务巡逻，
发现一个陌生黑人少年可能吸了毒，在该小区东张西望乱窜。他上前去问，并打了911
电话报警，911让他不要继续跟踪，但他还是跟踪了一段，之后跟丢了。他向自己的汽
车走过去。但在他到达汽车之前，黑人攻击了他，把他头部按在水泥地上撞，打得他鼻
青脸肿，后脑流血。他右手拔枪，单手贴近自己身体射击，一枪击毙了黑人。
此事不要说警察，常人就推断出ZIMMERMAN不会无故枪击黑人的。他如果存心开枪，就
大概不会事前打911报警；如果他拔枪在手，黑人也肯定不敢殴打他了。所以应该是黑
人觉得他没枪才去攻击他的，正当防卫是成立的。所谓ZIMMERMAN跟踪黑人，并不妨碍
他行使正当防卫。先动手的一方不能行使正当防卫，但先动口就无... 阅读全帖 |
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B**********r
发帖数: 7517 | 7 The boardmaster should consider to ban all his majias for 1 year if he
continues to
defame me. |
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l*****l
发帖数: 4170 | 8 哇塞，你英文好好啊，还知道defamation，那啥玩意？
我说话从来不注意的，你就多担待了。苍蝇也没有说你吧。不过惹了我你会很不舒服地
，提醒一下。 |
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l*****l
发帖数: 4170 | 10 你表乱讲人家水平差，小心人家告你defamation! |
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o******l
发帖数: 3125 | 11 刘卡尔，小心啦！
phd 也可以是 defamation!
phd -- permanent head damage !!! |
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E**********r
发帖数: 2743 | 12 （我的ID被封之际遭到网友“慕雪”的诽谤，请版主保留这个帖子，容我为自己辩护一
下。）
－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－－
网友“luowei”的打手之一”慕雪“趁着我的ID被封不能为自己辩解之际在这里选择性
记忆，肆无忌惮的诽谤，可能为的就是继续喝“luowei”给的那几碗粥，实在让人不齿
。 “luowei”这个“善良”的ID也不出来管管你的打手。
下面我来客观陈诉总结一下前天（周六，12/28/13）与“luowei”和它的打手们冲突的
来龙去脉，以示正听：
我唯一的一次向“luowei”要pick是在我一个多月前刚来股版时，那时看到大家都在要
pick，所以我就跟着要了。那时luowei给了我，我也在第一时间表达了感谢，后来因为
总总原因让我意识到和luowei不是一路人就再也没私信联系过它，也没在版面跟过它的
贴。28号之前和luowei的私下交流就只有这些。再来，luowei卖pick的行为引爆很多人
的愤怒，版主allence发帖问大家要不要在版面禁止这种行为，我站出来说过不用禁止
卖pick这种行为，因为这是luowei的权利。
上周六，发生... 阅读全帖 |
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n*****0
发帖数: 1721 | 13 在网上搜了下，free speech都包括下面的这些，想知道apple那个code到底算不算1st
amendment....
https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitution/first_amendment
Forums
Captive Audience
Prior Restraint
Libel
Slander
Defamation
Absolute Privilege
Advocacy of Illegal Action
Fighting Words
Commercial Speech
Government Speech
Obscenity
Brandenburg Test
Schenk v. United States (1919)
Gitlow v. New York (1925)
Roth v. United States (1957)
Texas v. Johnson (1989) |
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f******w
发帖数: 10267 | 14 layoff.那么写你可以去领救济。美国法律规定雇主不可以说雇员坏话，如果他说你坏
，你可以告他defamation.以后公司会给你出employment verification，比如受雇日期
，头衔，其他的他们不会说，最多就是一个no comments. |
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g*******g
发帖数: 108 | 15 Do not worry about the bad review for your next job. Your HR will not bad
mounth you when contacted by recruiters. They can not afford to expose
themself to potential defamation law suits. All they will tell background
checkers are your last position and time of employment. They will NOT say
anything about your performance.(either good or bad)
As for signing the warning or not. It is up to you. If you do not think it
is fair, (looks like the case to me) write your comments and sign it. The
compa |
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b***G
发帖数: 542 | 16 character demolition? 这种说法我还是第一次听说
我觉得这个人的评价，如果不实，严重损害了你的PROFESSIONAL STANDING,那就是
DEFAMATION PER SE,无需PROVE ACTUAL DAMAGE.更何况你的损失是失去了工作，完全可
以证实，甚至量化，找律师告他吧。 |
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m***y
发帖数: 14763 | 17 Defamation lawsuits are so popular nowadays that most HR will only give your
tile and base salary in reply to an inquiry. Companies' first concern is
always protecting themselves.
In LZ's case, lawyers would probably suggest you to sue the school as suing
a person promises less money. Regardless, this is really an easy case, and I
'm pretty sure LZ can find some good lawyers and they won't ask you to pay
up front ( of course, if you win, most of the money will go to them :) )
Google or yellow-bo |
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u********w
发帖数: 599 | 18 LZ我小小的打击你一下。你要告一个给你提供bad reference的雇主或上司，门槛比一
般的defamation要高。因为他们有一种东东叫做qualified privilege。－－当然并非
全无可能，只是困难更大一些。
祝你好运。 |
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d********n
发帖数: 1856 | 19 As mush as I appreicate your work, please also do not defame other people/
org.
Thanks again for what you have done for all of us.
law
期。 |
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x**8
发帖数: 1939 | 20 选举权和被选举权目前肯定是没有，
直接捐款好像也不行，
现在我很想知道这个法律界限在哪里，
比如我想在twitter/或其他媒体上发一大堆贴，贬低/痛骂/defame某议员候选人，或发
表不利于其当选的言论，算不算违法？ |
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x**8
发帖数: 1939 | 21 正面支持不好，我们背面抹黑还不行吗？
说怀疑谁谁谁和中国政府有联系，拿了共党的钱了，等等，
我原帖说的就是：贬低/痛骂/defame某议员候选人，或发表不利于其当选的言论，算不
算违法？ |
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r*****z
发帖数: 906 | 22 前两天有人发帖子抱怨他的律师（什么北美联合律师）。我回复了一句，说我同事找的
律师（F家的）先办事情后收钱。
然后竟然被人举报，说online defamation……举报人脑子进水了吧？还是心虚成心脏
病了？ |
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 23 Yes, he was elected. Before the legislative lection, he was placed at the
head of "at-large election", as opposed to district election. A Taiwanese
voter casts two ballots (besides two other ballots for two referendums)--one
for the former and the other for the latter.
Why is he not speaking? Well, he was elected but not inaugurated yet (which
will be in February). Without the immunity of a legislator, he can be easily
sued for defamation. So he is biding his time.
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c**i
发帖数: 6973 | 24 You wrote, "你支持有鸟用." Well, better than your opposition, who can not
vote in Taiwan's elections. And that is why my support counts.
For the same reason aslo, Pres. Chen won't sue you for defamation. |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 26 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: theislander1 (Peace de Wars), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: Zimmerman案始末（长，慎入）
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jul 14 16:27:19 2013, 美东)
事情经过很简单，某雨夜，社区治保队员ZIMMERMAN在自己居住的封闭小区义务巡逻，
发现一个陌生黑人少年可能吸了毒，在该小区东张西望乱窜。他上前去问，并打了911
电话报警，911让他不要继续跟踪，但他还是跟踪了一段，之后跟丢了。他向自己的汽
车走过去。但在他到达汽车之前，黑人攻击了他，把他头部按在水泥地上撞，打得他鼻
青脸肿，后脑流血。他右手拔枪，单手贴近自己身体射击，一枪击毙了黑人。
此事不要说警察，常人就推断出ZIMMERMAN不会无故枪击黑人的。他如果存心开枪，就
大概不会事前打911报警；如果他拔枪在手，黑人也肯定不敢殴打他了。所以应该是黑
人觉得他没枪才去攻击他的，正当防卫是成立的。所谓ZIMMERMAN跟踪黑人，并不妨碍
他行使正当防卫。先动手的一方不能行使正当防卫，但先动口就无... 阅读全帖 |
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S*******s
发帖数: 10098 | 27 “caught out in the rain without an umbrella (personal liability insurance)
如果他一早就买了umbrella Insurance（很便宜），“it will often cover things
that are not normally addressed in a traditional policy such as a copyright
infringement case or a defamation suit.”
“it's just as dumb to venture forth without the proper financial "umbrella"
to protect your assets from those unexpected financial storms. ”
“When it comes to personal liability insurance, an umbrella policy is
simply one of the best investments y... 阅读全帖 |
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s********9
发帖数: 4395 | 28 好专业哦～～会不会取证很难呀？而且bbs是中文，需要第三方去翻译公证，那些证据
咩？ |
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y******4
发帖数: 498 | 30 转载。
theislander1 (Peace de Wars) [1 楼]
Sun Jul 14 16:27:19 2013, 美东回复|编辑|...
事情经过很简单，某雨夜，社区治保队员ZIMMERMAN在自己居住的封闭小区义务巡逻，
发现一个陌生黑人少年可能吸了毒，在该小区东张西望乱窜。他上前去问，并打了911
电话报警，911让他不要继续跟踪，但他还是跟踪了一段，之后跟丢了。他向自己的汽
车走过去。但在他到达汽车之前，黑人攻击了他，把他头部按在水泥地上撞，打得他鼻
青脸肿，后脑流血。他右手拔枪，单手贴近自己身体射击，一枪击毙了黑人。
此事不要说警察，常人就推断出ZIMMERMAN不会无故枪击黑人的。他如果存心开枪，就
大概不会事前打911报警；如果他拔枪在手，黑人也肯定不敢殴打他了。所以应该是黑
人觉得他没枪才去攻击他的，正当防卫是成立的。所谓ZIMMERMAN跟踪黑人，并不妨碍
他行使正当防卫。先动手的一方不能行使正当防卫，但先动口就无所谓，先跟踪只要不
违法就更无所谓了。警察局调查完毕，觉得此事不值得起诉，就让ZIMMERMAN十万美元
取保回家。他在家平静地呆了两... 阅读全帖 |
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c**********a
发帖数: 8 | 31 Hello,
A good lawyer wanted. Victims or witness related to cheng chen from purdue or northwest university (criminal
suspect of a defamation and identity theft case) are welcomed.
Please email: l********[email protected] |
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N********n
发帖数: 13236 | 32 Prolific burglar cyberstalked those who crossed him, prosecutors say
By Jeremy Gorner and Jason Meisner, Chicago Tribune reporters
7:05 a.m. CDT, April 26, 2012
Jicheng "Kevin" Liu was a prolific burglar with a mean streak who
cyberstalked anyone who crossed him, Cook County prosecutors say.
In retaliation for his arrest in the theft of a stroller, Liu ran online ads
claiming his accuser performed acts of prostitution out of her Roscoe
Village residence, authorities said. The woman and her husba... 阅读全帖 |
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B******1
发帖数: 9094 | 33 原文的后半部:
Local groups in Utah, led by Ha, are already in the process of coordinating
a response. Ha, a member of Utah’s small but growing 8,000 plus Vietnamese
American community, as well as first vice-chairman of the Utah Vietnamese
American Chamber of Commerce, is leading a coalition of local Asian American
and LGBT civil liberties organizations, namely the Organization of Chinese
Americans (OCA) and the Utah Pride Center, to pursue a path of legislative
changes through the Utah State Senate to... 阅读全帖 |
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b*x
发帖数: 5456 | 34 一片文章， 引来北大， gogo，和beanies三个著名ID。。
哈哈， 笑死。
来给草地护士上一课， 我中文不好， 但是肯定会念奇葩。
而且我也知道， 葩啥意思。 把葩用在北大身上， 我会被葩告得倾家荡产，
这是defamation啊。只有奇疤配他了。
你们慢慢聊， 我要忙正事了。 你们继续屁股和脑袋打架。 |
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T******T
发帖数: 3066 | 35 Do you really get off on defaming these people ?
We can care less about the actual details, and you've
been at it for almost a year now, can't you just let it go ? |
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c******n
发帖数: 5697 | 37 你去向北京要个一亿美金在美国建个像犹太人那样的Ant-Defamation League，或者黑
人那样的NCAAP，那不就什么事都解决了！ |
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L*********4
发帖数: 251 | 38 I agree!
任何扯皮的，打官司的，都应该自己handle自己的problem. 不应该以鉴后人为由，在
没有结论前来通过blogs 损害对方的名誉。
Michigan is one of the 17 states has internet defamation law. |
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N****f
发帖数: 25759 | 39 Hee hee...just to keep the record straight. However, Mr. Comchem
shall be hearing from our legal department if he refuses to cease
and desist his audacious, malicious, and outrageous acts of defamation. |
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G*********o
发帖数: 49669 | 40 人民内部矛盾激化了，嘿嘿
Hee hee...just to keep the record straight. However, Mr. Comchem
shall be hearing from our legal department if he refuses to cease
and desist his audacious, malicious, and outrageous acts of defamation. |
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M****7
发帖数: 13407 | 41 【 以下文字转载自 Chicago 讨论区 】
发信人: Nietschean (不如归去), 信区: Chicago
标 题: Re: more news about Jicheng Liu. He is famous now.
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Apr 26 14:18:59 2012, 美东)
Prolific burglar cyberstalked those who crossed him, prosecutors say
By Jeremy Gorner and Jason Meisner, Chicago Tribune reporters
7:05 a.m. CDT, April 26, 2012
Jicheng "Kevin" Liu was a prolific burglar with a mean streak who
cyberstalked anyone who crossed him, Cook County prosecutors say.
In retaliation for his arrest in the theft ... 阅读全帖 |
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m****s
发帖数: 7397 | 42 Did Michael Lewis libel Wing Chau?
http://blogs.reuters.com/felix-salmon/2011/02/28/did-michael-le
Felix Salmon
A slice of lime in the soda
Feb 28, 2011 22:45 EST
Is this a case of reality copying satire? A couple of weeks ago, Michael
Lewis caricatured the dissenters from the FCIC report:
Financial Crisis Cause No. 3: The Chinese
And then today, in his defamation lawsuit against Lewis, Wing Chau seems to
imply that’s what Lewis actually thinks:
Wing Chau and his immediate family are Chinese imm... 阅读全帖 |
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j**4
发帖数: 10425 | 43 go fuck urself! i am just telling u that just because first amendment gives
u fucking free speech, doesn't mean u can't get a defamation lawsuit.
of course, u r too fucking retarded to understand this shit!
go shove a gun into ur asshole! |
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T********e
发帖数: 8631 | 44 You can sue for entrapment, defamation, then settle for undisclosed amount.
This is America, DA <> 法院 <> correct. Lawyers make the rule. |
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B********n
发帖数: 12753 | 45 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: theislander1 (Peace de Wars), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: Zimmerman案始末（长，慎入）
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jul 14 16:27:19 2013, 美东)
事情经过很简单，某雨夜，社区治保队员ZIMMERMAN在自己居住的封闭小区义务巡逻，
发现一个陌生黑人少年可能吸了毒，在该小区东张西望乱窜。他上前去问，并打了911
电话报警，911让他不要继续跟踪，但他还是跟踪了一段，之后跟丢了。他向自己的汽
车走过去。但在他到达汽车之前，黑人攻击了他，把他头部按在水泥地上撞，打得他鼻
青脸肿，后脑流血。他右手拔枪，单手贴近自己身体射击，一枪击毙了黑人。
此事不要说警察，常人就推断出ZIMMERMAN不会无故枪击黑人的。他如果存心开枪，就
大概不会事前打911报警；如果他拔枪在手，黑人也肯定不敢殴打他了。所以应该是黑
人觉得他没枪才去攻击他的，正当防卫是成立的。所谓ZIMMERMAN跟踪黑人，并不妨碍
他行使正当防卫。先动手的一方不能行使正当防卫，但先动口就无... 阅读全帖 |
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C****S
发帖数: 129 | 46 【 以下文字转载自 NewJersey 讨论区 】
发信人: CAPEUS (华人进步与平等协会 capeus.org), 信区: NewJersey
标 题: Joint statement to denounce the racial slur from Fox News
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Jul 29 13:08:44 2014, 美东)
July 29th, 2014
San Jose, California - 80-20EF, AAPA-PAC, AAV, BFF, CAPE, CUL, DFWCA, MCAA,
SVCA and TOC jointly issue the following statement to denounce the racial
slur and racial spy/terrorism slander from Fox News host Bob Beckel and
demand immediate resignation of Bob Beckel or being fired by Fox News.
On Th... 阅读全帖 |
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r******3
发帖数: 50 | 47 刚才看到有个同学在一个发言中讨论了我上面所说的“Defamation per se”, 还有啥
诽谤与谩骂的区别， 并且说”骂人是受美国宪法保护的，英文叫做freedom of speech
”, “即便被骂的人有多么的不爽，诉诸法庭也是没有什么用处的”. 感到有点
surprise.
美国宪法First Amendment 的Freedom of speech 要保护的是人们表达思想的自由，而
不是骂人的权利。骂人和表达思想是有本质区别的。
U.S. Supreme Court 在 Chaplinsky v. New Hampshire一案中将骂人和表达思想做了
一个清楚的区分： “There are certain well-defined and narrowly limited
classes of speech, the prevention and punishment of which have never been
thought to raise any constitutional problem. These include the lewd and
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发帖数: 274 | 48 还是lefttie 同学总结的精辟：
**** 实际上吵架是吵给观众看的，特别是网上吵架。
**** 做口舌之争到说难听话，甚至人身攻击的地步，自损形象得厉害。
所以骂街一开始我就没办法再插嘴了，毕竟不能自低身份。
口舌之争是没有什么意思了，不过本着稍微严谨些的说话风格，^_^
有些许细节稍微澄清一下。
==== 本人在Intel“满意”还是“不满意”？
不知道为什么这也成了个重要问题，被人拿出来说事儿。
真要回答起来倒也确实很复杂，一个大公司自然有它的好处坏处。
很多人都有描述，我可犯不着在这里替Intel捧场或者拆台。
只是如果有谁认为一个五万美元学费就能起决定性作用，这个思维也忒单纯了吧？
==== “考古”还是“暴露隐私”？
首先得搞明白什么是隐私。
任何事情只要是你自己公开发布在互联网上了，那就不能再当是隐私了。
本来是因为有人猜测 Bear 和 Once 是同一个人或者是一对，所以考证了一下。
我所做的不过是google了一些旧帖，总结一下细节，其实都是当事人自己说过的话，
是真是假还是吹牛都是不知道的。
不过看到 Bear 到站务那里投诉的气势，以及后来试图公布我以前自己... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9094 | 49 I would caution against posting defamation against individual or institution
in the public domain.
If the allegation is true, use the proper channel to file the complaint and
seek resolution.
If the allegation is false, the poster might bring trouble to him- or
herself if the other party presses charges against such derogatory statement
(s).
Spreading rumors might simply pour oil on fire while offering no solution to
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发帖数: 2817 | 50 纽约联邦法院助理法官弗朗西斯针对桑兰诉33名被告的9项指控提出了裁决建议。依据
美国法律，本着现阶段要假设桑兰所言句句为实，且一切推断必须偏向 （Favor）桑兰
的原则，他建议主审法官撤销部分指控，保留部分指控。长期以来被桑兰称为“恩人”
的被告之一刘国生说，他们有足够的证据在法庭上讨回清白，并且保留反诉桑兰，追索
赔偿的权利。Mitbbs.com
建议驳回大部分指控Mitbbs.com
去年10月5日，桑兰向纽约联邦法院递交了第四次修改版起诉书，对34名被告提出12项
指控。在34名被告中，无名无姓的有30名，那仅仅是一些评论桑兰官司的网民。剩下的
4个被告是美国媒体巨头时代华纳、10多年来被桑兰称为“恩人”的刘国生-谢晓虹夫妇
和他们的律师莫虎。Mitbbs.com
19日，弗朗西斯法官建议主审法官桑德撤销桑兰针对时代华纳的一切指控（3项）。对
于桑兰针对其他33名被告提出的9项指控，弗朗西斯法官建议完全撤销其中的4项，保留
其中的2项。剩下的3项，他建议既不完全撤销，也不完全保留。Mitbbs
桑兰在起诉书中提出的9项指控为桑兰基金账目不清（Accounting of the ... 阅读全帖 |
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