h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 1 I think that's wrong, otherwise no one should raise a big hand preflop. The
question is you want to go into flop with 30% winning rate or 50% or even
higher. Remember you lose money whenever ONE of others wins, so you actually
fight against ALL of them.
As a theoretical question, you can answer as many as possible. The
assumption is everyone MUST go allin EVERY time you have AA, and everyone
MUST rebuy to initial buyin amount whenever lower than it. Since this is
never going to happen, no one re |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 2 mini buyin基本就是preflop的战斗了
下. |
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q****8
发帖数: 3281 | 3 I also tried min-buyin in 6 max and full ring, not felt so good. As the
players get more, the requirement for the starting hands get higher.
sometimes I need to wait for a long time to get a decent starting hand, and
more easily get beaten even I have AA.
82, |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 5 观察了一下，将mini-buyin从20BB提高到35BB，对于short stacker很难受，明显少多
了。
典型short stacker的主要战术无外乎：
1) shove with premium hands (99+, AJs+)，位置越靠后，牌越弱。以前这么干，很
少有人会call，因为20BB这个大小很烦。
2) 偷，尤其是在靠后，4x 左右，或者SB vs. BB, Button vs. SB/BB (BSB play)，通
过小偷小摸来弥补blinds的损失，继续熬大牌。
所以short stacker基本上没有out of position的post flop play。加上N桌同时进行
，薄利多收，那桌double up就跑。
现在这个size逼得它们更紧，也使得它们的implied odds变好，4x什么的很可能有人会
跟，而post flop play是它们的软肋，多桌也导致它们分散精力，机械打法的效益大大
下降。
虽然有新的shallow table(20-40BB)，但是那里大家都是short，同类相残，起手牌，
打法类似，edge很小。
对FTP而言， |
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h****a
发帖数: 5058 | 6
没有了，都说网上赌钱违法，没敢。不知道有没有根据？
turn
很有道理，记下了。
2，3都是因为想等张大的，比如J,Q,K之类的，再开始下，
因为桌上除了我和另一个，都只有400k左右，blind 20/40K,如果flop,turn上一下，估
计全吓跑了，我其实就想赚点小钱，结果把本还亏了，想起来不如照老大说的当时先下
一点，所以觉得自己玩得不好，来讨教一下经验。很有收获阿。
顺便问另一个问题，银行里的钱数，赢牌的胜率，最大赢的pot,包括sitNgo,shootout
的胜率桌上的人都能看到，
人家一看九知道你玩得比较tight,除非很隐蔽的牌，很难赢到大钱阿。怎么办？多
bluff? 故意bluff几把小的，给大家亮亮？你觉得有用吗？
还有一个问题是，很多马来和印尼的驴子，buyin就是10BB（400K），
动不动就all in，这个倒也不怕，反正他们的range就是2，3/6，9的off suit都敢上的
，一对一，我根本不怕，钱也是他们的几十倍，关键是架不住5，6个一起来，就是一群
驴子，咋办？换桌子？ |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 7 FTP任何游戏的min buyin至少是20bb，当然不会有10bb allin再买了
你怎么能拿real money和FB比 |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 8 mini buyin 要80刀
我在0.5/1上输的很不爽， 就跑去1/2试运气了， 碰巧看到名人而已， 呵呵。
在1/2上输了两把很冤的牌， 都是$80 all in, 一个是preflop AK碰AK, 被对家单张同
花搞试了。
第二把flop, straight flush + two over pair的无数draw和人all in, 啥都没来。搞
的晚上觉都睡不好。 |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 9 the better your postflop play the more you should buyin |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 10 When I play this, typically I am aggressive at front. To build up chip is
essential at front (some ppl re-buy as soon as they hop in. If not luck, one
early buy-in). Later buyin is less of value since the BB goes up.
I will loose up in middle and tigh up in the final. Personal experience. |
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H*******n
发帖数: 914 | 11 rushgame NL25.
开三桌。ftp涨起来真快。但是感觉每桌没法仔细分析，同时有几把运气太差，
刷刷输了50.不过这个月ironman应该没问题。
rushgame KK的玩法？ 我KK LP raise 3bb，button reraise to 9bb。
我直接all in了，结果那厮是AQ o，flop出A了。
这种情况是call 一下更好吗？不过我是mini-buyin，call是不是太示弱了。 |
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H*******n
发帖数: 914 | 12 3x or 4.5x?
感觉4.5x把人全赶走了，不管是ep or lp，
现在很多人ep和mp， AA，AK，KK都是limp in。
LP可能会raise一些，但是也是不会超过4x，因为那样全跑了，如果limp in的人太多另
说。
我现在的打法是什么牌（AA，AK，KK，AQ，QQ，JJ）都趋向limp in了，hit到就成，
hit不到就跑，
premium hands有人raise最好，那样可以smooth call or reshove，没有我就看看flop
再决定。
因为我的策略就是mini buyin and double up，
collect blinds其实效率很低，因为rushgame里面大家对raise都很敏感，
很多人不在乎丢blinds，你和他和平看牌反而可能让其放松警惕。 |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 13 受教了...
那么多少buy-in可以尝试去100nl 玩玩呢? 现在才15,6个buyin是不是太少了,还是在
50NL继续build一些?
seemed
open
usually
,
to |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 14
I'd say 4. Getting into 5. It seems very hard to get level 6 though as fcf
said. 30 buyins swing at 400NL would be too much for me. |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 15 还行,我只是preflop比较loose, overall 运气不错,目前up了20多个buyin
from |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 16 我今天也很倒霉，lost 3 Buyin
我今天被river 了N吧，3 次middle or bottom set 碰到 higher set. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 17 last time, i played one 12000ftp buyin sng. Get 1 535T$ token
,
raised |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 18 BLT也伤rb的，guarantee money比total buyin大很多。 |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 19 Mini buyin, 拿到99+, AQ+再玩。 |
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p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 20 it is different. there are freerolls where buyin are FTP points, which makes
them not FREE at all.
there are also truly free freerolls like $150 freeroll (held every
other hour) and country specific freeroll (held once a night). a bigger one
is weekly $1000 freeroll, which needs you to win round one freeroll (held every other hour) to register. freeroll to daily dollar is another one,
which is daily and super tubo, faster and limited to one buck.
these FTOPS freerolls are a lot better than the w |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 21 希望月底能到3000
看过2+2上面一片文章， 是按技术层次来升级的， 大概10-12个buyin就可以试水, 觉
得有道理。 |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 22 现在FTP的min buyin是35bb，难道你玩的是SS桌？
三次，总共也就$240, 不行就降级。
题。 |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 23 hoho,在我bankroll不到的情况下，试水当然谨慎好了， 每次搞full buyin，
variance 就够搞垮我了。 |
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 24 i had a hand like this
me 44 bb button raise 3bb sb call i call we both had almost full buyin
flop 4JcQc sb ck ,i ck, button bet almost pot ,sb fold ,i raise to x3,button
call
turn 8c i check ,button ck
river tc i push all in. button began to typing ... what a moron #$%$^^
something like that he had JJ and fold
i showed 44 hahahaha |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 25 哈哈， 你提到的两点正我是做的，由以前一个full buyin改成2到3桌short stacks.
昨天刚买了两个23"的LCD屏幕， 为multi-table做准备呢。 |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 26 yeah, I made a post on other form said that I run 25 buyin below ev in the
last 4k hands, poker is a tough game. |
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 27 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 冤家冤家 还好不是full buyin.. |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 28 同ls问，live cash game的rake怎么算？前两天去vegas体验tournament去了...cash
game的buyin没舍得花 |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 29 ??, not really. It worked all day.
Took a look at MiniFTPs. It took 13 hours to finish. Well with 24+2 buyin
for a shot upto 45K, it is not bad to try. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 30 having
earned 100,000 player points in just 2 weeks and 1,000,000 player points in
4 and a half months, respectively.[3]
in order to win those crazy FPP, he played a ton of 5k buyin 9ppl sng, and
is a fish there(although he is a shark on 500$ level 9ppl sng player. )
He has a record there on PS by the craziest lose session. I do not know,
maybe 100K+ or 200k.
and |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 31 刚开了3桌， 两小时赢了2.7 buyin, 目标提前完成， 庆祝一下 :) |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 32 4.1 Joke?
我当年玩NL1000， 好歹还有3个buyIn
$
while.
is
.
.. So the only thing that is stopping me advancing in poker is the stupid
bankroll management. |
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c**********o
发帖数: 213 | 33 the key is accounding to PTR, no one win more than 10 buyin today in 5/10
game |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 34 buyin里都含了吧，而且还不少...前一阵在mandalay bay打的是35+15的...house钱占
了1/3。当然你要赢了钱开心想给也可以 |
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t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 35 连着5天， 每天输 3+ buyin。
两个主要原因：
1。 bad beat, 这个没办法，拿到premium hand总输， 然后玩杂牌， 杂牌不来， 继
续输
2。 每次session应该控制自己的时间， 感觉累的时候应该停下来。 周六的时候玩
NL200, 两个小时由$200打到$600+， 舍不得停手， 希望把前两天输的继续赢回来，
然后就一直打， 结果$0->$400->$0 -> (-$300), 最后净亏$300刀， 雪上加霜。
结论： 下风期唯一能做的就是干点别的。 |
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R***c
发帖数: 13 | 36 So you guys actually cash out whenever you reach 60BB then re-buy with
smaller stack?
I usually buyin with 100BB (NL50 Rush) and wouldn't cash out even when i
double the stack... Got backfired once in a while against deep stack but
also allows me to win some big pots too.
I think the key is to know when to fold (e.g. TPTP, Overpair etc) so the
downside of having big stack doesn't hurt you as much. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 37 现在乱整的人比较多，第一把那个人声称有个4！！
另外一个以前的常客才搞笑，本来俺们桌虽然小有乱事，他一来就波澜壮阔了。这家伙
现在居然才mini-buyin，$60！结果你猜他第一把怎么着？all-in with 78o!!! 居然还
赢了，double up，然后又all-in J9o，被人清掉....然后又$60，....几把之内把桌子
搞活了，连一个老油条都居然拿7d9d call他。 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 38 This is my first TLB tourney, play too crazy, and get busted.
10 Player left, and 35bb.1st get the famous package.
My opponent is a low-buyin sng regular(have played 1600+ games last month, way more than mine), do not steal, I should not repop him. Shark365 get 2nd, and he discuss about split the prize, but not successful.
Full Tilt Poker Game #20007540400: March TLB Freeroll (143396054), Table 1 -
800/1600 Ante 200 - No Limit Hold'em - 19:51:57 ET - 2010/04/11
Seat 1: Winwin Ben (79,886)
Seat 5 |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 39
the
flop. but
middle
What's your account name? you can just PM me,if you dont' want to show
publicly.
I was just running hot recently, up like 20 buyins this week. |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 40 Rush 50, Two Entries, played 300 hands. Mini-buyin, 20$
Results, wiped out three times, lost 12$ (24BB) overall.
WO1) TJ at SB.
preflop, UTG 3BB, SB call and so do BB (most time, I just fold).
Flop, TJ4, I check, BB check, UTG 1/2+pot, I 2+X. UTG call.
TUrn, x(w/ flush draw). I check and wait to raise, UTG all-in and I call
River,8, UTG has 9Qs(with flush and straight at turn) and hit straight.
WO2) AKs at SB.
Preflop, MP1, 4BB and MP2 call. I shove (~23$), MP1 call with AJs and MP2 fold.
turn/r |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 41 也还正常，这三个月我已经有 20 buyin 的 downswing 三次了 |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 42 summerbrook说得对，数据有错误。EPT san remo的buyin是5300 EUR，要是500 GBP（
约等于530EUR）的话1200多人加一起也就是冠军奖的一半左右...冠军奖1.25M EUR，折
下来大概1.08M GBP，这个数字还不算太离谱。 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 43 you are right.
But one problem is that those fishes will not play very long, they will quit
after 1 or 2 buyin lossees, the session is very very short.
However, if you encounter a regular, you will play a ton of hands,
eventually both of you will lose money or barely win.
My experience is that you need play very very loose and aggressive in
position, however, need play tight and passive out of position(A5o-a3o, 22-
55 is not very good defensive hands.) One leak of me is that I like to play tight |
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c**********l
发帖数: 606 | 44 cool bro! keep us posted. i also need to get out of my nitty BR rule (
200BI for PLO), or i should use half of my NW as my BR, lol.
still feels painful when the 10-buyin-below-ev night hits. |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 45 1) Aft the hands are imported into HM, do I need to keep the file? I mean
can I delete the hands history thereafter.
2) Does HM PERIODICALLY import the hand history or do I need to do it
manually.
3) My understanding is that HM only do the hand history you have. Is there
any software to download all the hand history or certain kind of hand
history. Say
MMT, buyin >$50, ppl>100?!
4) Where can I have a documentation on how to read the information?! Might
be silly question. Please give a link.
Than |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 46 He did not post all.
But small blinds wins.
Those are high stake MTT regulars. The buyin is 10k |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 47 If there is a site like this, I would like to buy all Fryking's tickets in
discount.
BTW, ironman gives out tickets(24+2 only?!) not T$? This is why today so
many over crowded at 24+2 buyin guarantees. |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 48 我已经 15 buyin under EV 了。有时候想想是不是 holdem manger EV 计算不准确。
好象每个人winning 都比EV 底。 |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 49 1) MTT guarantee allows buy-in through level 6(within ~ one hour). This is
what PS is doing for long time.
2) Close some guarantees. For many cash guys, MTT is not +EV. Well actually
depends. Many guarantees at FTP have more $ than buyins(even including the
rake).
So it can be +EV. Less possible now. |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 50 Is that anywhere to transfer a ticket (to me). Say set up a bbs tourney,
buyin with the ME ticket and/or cash?!
I need a ticket. |
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