m******1
发帖数: 715 | 1 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 经济不景气 Just a few advantages of online game on top of my head:
- Convenience (no need of dedicated chunks of hours).
- Efficiency (not stuck at 30 hands per hour full ring table).
- Flexibility (any sized buyin).
- Cost (smaller rake, no gasoline etc).
- Discipline and bankroll management.
The integrity of online poker house can be a question mark. But it is not
that serious in low and medium game. |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 2 第一个超过一万的tournament prize
FTP 200+15$ buyin 1096 people
Started in the afternoon, long way to go.
Very tedioust in the early stage and got lucky by 50% to 50% al in gamble
for seveal times. Soon in the prize pool 99 people left. keep stealing blind
and al in with close to priemer hand... lucky lucky...
Final table ! 9th in.
66 all in vs AQ and hold up, double up. 3th.
10 10 vs JK , finally lost a 50% gamble , down to 7th. and AA call al in and
hold up!! but failed to steal blind 2 times... 7 peop |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 3 I think so.
I played 10 times 200+buyin around this year, won 15K$ around.
And that is my ultimate dream to win some title in world level game,
So I need experience . |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 4 希望能经常办。在升blind速度上应该越慢越好。网上一般的tournament升得太快了。
发信人: happyness (sdlx: 九阳豆浆机，公鸡中的战斗机！), 信区: SanFrancisco
标 题: 光荣与梦想 - mitbbs首届网友扑克大赛
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 31 17:18:16 2008), 转信
TexasHoldem俱乐部的资深人士fryking经过一番努力，在著名的fulltilt poker网站组
织了这次private tournament。如果你常看poker电视转播，对fulltilt一定不会陌生
。它和pokerstars应该是出现在WSOP现场最多的赞助商了。
这次比赛是tournament，buyin $5，只不过是三个黄瓜的价钱，免却了发牌的苦恼，又
可以和天南地北的高手过招，何乐而不为呢？其中有位叫meloni的高手，来自LA，已go
pro两年有余，刚刚赢得人生第一个$10k+的奖金。还有一帮经常混迹于实际和网上赌
场的高手，都在grind teeth，准备吃我们这样的fish。蛋是，tournament里什 |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 5 26$ buyin
45people already in final table, second chip lead.
bf flop AA I raise, chip leader reraise, I all in , he call showing KK.
flop K!!!!!!!!!!!!! |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 6 正在玩一个$3 buyin的tournament，476人，从下面这手开始。我5的full house，结果
人家A的full house，这个AA是limp in的，我筹码从300多降到1000多。紧接着我拿到A
10，想了想all-in，那个比较tight的人A J call，结果我hit 10，bad beat for him
。再下一手我fold，A 8 all-in suck out A 10（他筹码比较多）。然后我拿到JJ，AA
那个人raise到3BB，我call，flop到J，AA bet，我raise all-in，结果还有另一个人
call。。。下一手我5 7 fold，结果flop是5 7 2。。。然后我10 2 fold，flop是10
10 9。。。
这些都是连续的。现在筹码9000多，sigh. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 7 I think it's true. In WSOP, you will see people fold to a 1/3 pot bet very
often. But it's hard to see it online. Maybe the buyin is too small..
river
up |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 9 附加说明:welcome!
寄信人: demonfox (狐狸)
标 题: How to join the Hold'Em club?
发信站: 未名空间 (Mon Dec 8 05:19:18 2008)
来 源: 24.19.
Hi, just noticed there was actually such a club on mitbbs. How to join the
club?
I play both online (Full Tilt) and live poker. Mostly play cash game online
(.5/1 or 1/2 NL) and tourneys live ($40 - $100 buyin games). My Full Tilt ID
is demonfox7. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 10 53% itm
you can say he wins 53%, but itm does not reflect what the buyin is.
could be high itm rate, still no profit
2% is ROI , that is important |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 11 flop see, win rate.
Yesterday, I watch other guys play on 750K tourney, very deep about 120ppl
left.I check all those guys stats, flop see , win rate is 44%+(44%--
55%)almost all of them have the similar stats. I also watched 240$ buyin KO game on ftp, similar stats for the final 9 players.
(The stats is based on tournament, full table game)
While I check our stats, flop see, win rate is 35%.
Which means we have fewer chance to win, and I do not play very well on flop play. Maybe the optimal pla |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 12 Maybe not. There are many MTT pros, you can check record of following
players.
Peargammered, Ducku(both ftp and stars, win ftp main event several times, 1k
monday one time, stars wins 2rd for 10k buyin game), MoormanI, AJKHoosier1
I do not think they can win coin flip every time, there are something we do
not know about MTT game.
And you will see these online MTT players in WSOP MAIN event also, and usually they are very very deep, around 300rd or better. Watching Wsop main event yesterday, phil |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 13 因为从他话里可以看出他对poker还没真正理解,所以敢和他单挑.
对其他人可不敢1:2,不过赢还是有信心.
在carbon ROI是16%.
在PS是18%.
不过都是low buyin. |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 14 PS 是野鸡网站?
fryking你在fultilt设10局HU SNG.多少buyin由他决定.
我赢了照收.输多少再转相同钱给他. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 15 I played ftp points game before, I guess still very easy to play. I play
35ftp (64ppl) buyin game, I get 1 ticket for 2000ftp per average 8-10 games.
Which is not very bad result. I guess partially the tournament player does
not
know how to play short table and heads up, give me a very good opportunity
to win the 1st.
If I play 300 ftp 75$ token game(6max), I guess I need play 10-12 times to
get one token, but that game is a bit little long(around 2.5 hours), so I am
not interested in it. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 16 You can play buyin 4400ftp double duece game, the 1st is around 30k$ real
money usually. But the field is pretty large, and take 7+ hours to finish. |
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d**x
发帖数: 1934 | 17 我AA preflop raise 12bb还碰到A9s call。。。
flop x99....
你说我郁闷不郁闷...一个buyin就没了。。 |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 18 Full Tilt Poker Game #10461463238: $69 + $6 Sit & Go (79060496), Table 3 -
15/30 - No Limit Hold'em - 0:57:48 ET - 2009/02/06
Seat 1: Orlegard (1,485)
Seat 2: yanjiegou2007 (1,440)
Seat 4: D Money 405 (1,545)
Seat 5: NUTS705 (1,500)
Seat 6: CreekSideFish (1,500)
Seat 7: myNAMEisROYnot (1,500)
Seat 8: jcap03 (3,030)
Seat 9: Smooth Jack (1,500)
D Money 405 posts the big blind of 30
The button is in seat #2
*** HOLE CARDS ***
Dealt to yanjiegou2007 [7s 7c]
CreekSideFish is feeling happy
NUTS705 fol |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 19 I am still thinking what happened.... |
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D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 20 The first rule for Online poker：
Never Ever Slow Play Any Hand |
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m******1
发帖数: 715 | 21 Do you think he will fold if you bet the flop?
Do you want him to fold on the flop? |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 22 I guess if you can win on ftp, then you can win on PS also.
If you can not win on ftp, most of time you are a loser on PS either.
Because Players' skills should be similar on both sides, regulars play on
high limit, moderate players play on low buyin games. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 24 up limit is 200bucks.
even you play 5200$ buyin game. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 25 The sunday brawl. KO bounty is 40
I never play it though.
And I think FTOP EVENT 20 OR FTOP EVENT 17.
Buyin is 129$
KO bounty is 20
the 1st prize is 140K+
I got several tokens for it, but have to go church, no time to play though
That game maybe 5k+ ppl in it. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 26 thx.
I just put the notes through their former record, such as winner or loser,
how large is their typical buyin.
Do not use PT at that time.
First play on poker is July, 2007. But I did not play seriously at that
time. I guess I play poker seriously since April, 2008. And during the past
year, I quit playing poker for several months(around 3 months). |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 27 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 一个牛人. check record of kennl
He is top profiter on 25$-32$ range games.---FTP player
Last year, his profit is over 100k.
2 years ago, I track a player named USCphildo, he only plays MTT. Everyday
20+ MTT games.(Since when MTT goes deep, it takes at least 7 hours. 20+MTT
is a lot.) But nowadays, he only plays high buyin MTT games.(Maybe still
6+ MTT everyday, since he plays on multiple sites)
His profit should be 300k--400k last year since he plays both on stars and
ftp.
He plays all FTOP events, includ |
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D*A
发帖数: 1169 | 28 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 一个牛人. i guess that is the way to damp the swing,the more game you play, the much
effect skill will take over the luck.
a
lot, since sng's roi usually around 10%-15%, must play 1million$ for 9ppl
sng already in 2 years)
considering the game is only 26$ sng games, it is a huge down swing. around
150+ buyins) |
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p*******r
发帖数: 100 | 29 I played a $14+1 for $55 one yesterday and won the token. It's T $ and can
be converted to real $ with 5% fee. I converted right away since I won't
play $50 buyin tournament anyway :) |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 30 not sure. But he plays a ton everyday. Different style from kennl. He is a
kind of high buyin player, average buy in 168$ for this month.
ko
a |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 31 It is winner take all game, still reasonable. Winner take 1060$. Why do you play this kind of structure.
But it(that guy) must be a donky play.
PS has a lot of big token game, 800$ buyin ----- 18k token
600buyin ---- 12k token
but |
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 32 aixentric starts playing since Jan 2009. yeah, he is a donkey.
you can feel that in higher buyin games, ppl won't play that crazy. |
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 33 don't play these low buyin games. too many nuts.
I checked the history of MDATS90, he started playing only from feb 2009,
only winning couple tokens before this game.
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 34 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 得意一下 Maybe very hard for his stack.
His usually buyin is 20BB, but Bo plays 5/10 NL full table also
3bb raise, 3bet means 8bb, it should be allin actually.
After 3bet and get called, usually another continuation bet, around 12bb+
Need 100BB stack to 3bet.
Maybe Ilovepoker can show us in the game. Bo and many of us can benefit from it. |
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l**********t
发帖数: 269 | 35 you have unlimited "later" to get the money back. :) months and yrs. as
long as you made the right play, it is perfectly fine. Getting rivered is
very common.
I dropped 4 buy in earlier today. at least one was due to bad decisions.
finally got 3 buyins back after hrs. the same thing happened over and over
for the past few days while I'm trying to move up to NL25.
You guys are really talented and can go right to NL200-NL500. just keep up
the good work. :) It took me 1 month to fix my N |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 36 miniftop event 10, On final table, chip leader KO all other 8 opponents.
30$ buyin, 1st prize 52k.
Then you will know how many pots he is involved.
miniftop event 12, I did watch it till final 3 table.
I guess similar things happend, chip leader will KO most of players.
It is 6max game, I guess chip leader will KO at least 4 other guys on the
final table.
Similarly, Jerry yang KO 6 ppl on WSOP FT.
Jamie Gold KO 5ppl(my estimation) on WSOP FT.
The way they play is to play virtually every possible |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 37 Will you call it at the early stage of a tournament? Let's say the buyin is
24+2.
it |
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H*******n
发帖数: 914 | 38 fryking，如果光打tournament，如何控制bankroll？
我每次存个50-100，运气差的时候一会儿就没了，运气好能有个四五百，
然后cash一些，账户保持50-100，
感觉这样玩11或者24的还是很吃力。
一般buyin最好是bankroll的1%吗？
and
and |
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l**********t
发帖数: 269 | 39 I like this. We all have period where the cards never fall right no matter
what. Keeping certain amont of cash in the online account is more for
mental health than anything else.
I can drop 10 buyins and it wont make much of any dent in my balance. I
like the feeling I get when I look at the my balance and know that it is
would be ok even through I made some mistakes. I think watching the
balance goes to zero all the time would be a serious test.
in
to
how
and
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 40 从哪里找啊,$5-$30 buyin的.头都晕了.
不想打SNG. |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 41 刚在FTP打了一场SNG,45人$10 buyin,FT时还是chip第二,结果给个乱冲乱打的踢出去了
,两对对他一对top pair,river掉了.不喜欢SNG.
今天在STARS打了很多场MTT,bad beats 无数.good beats好像只有一两次.
fuck stars.bye.
前几天问FTP有没有bank transfer,回说不行,只能给"selected group".所以就提了张
支票.昨天突然发现加上bank transfer功能了,马上又提一笔,今天下午就到帐.比stars
还快一天. |
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k***n
发帖数: 1682 | 42 Good try.. I guess melonli earned the WSOP $1000 buyin by playing online
cash games .. hoho.
Last time in Atlantic City MTT tournament my AA was killed by 33, I was
pissed off for a long long time. So next time in Casino I would prefer
playing crazily from the very bigining to aviod such J9 killing KK situation
. Playing crazily brings you much more fun, also these J9, 33 guys much
less likely dare to call.
, |
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l***q
发帖数: 62 | 43 在我本地赌场，tournament奖金超过5200的就给你W-2G或者1099表。此奖金并未减去
buyin。 |
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m*****i
发帖数: 1873 | 44 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 再见LA really, 200RMB buyin can wave up to 10000RMB 1 hour, you kidding . |
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l***q
发帖数: 62 | 45 前几天到LA去了一趟，顺便走访了传说中的扑克天堂commerce casino。大厅很大，桌
子无数，筹码哗啦哗啦不断，自不必言。
让我惊讶的是这里的buyin和blinds level设置，与我熟悉的格式相差很大。列表归纳
如下： |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 46 You can play satellite games for it next year.
FTP has 150 seat garantee satellites (500$ buyin)
PS has 750 seat garantee satellites.
I guess both sites has Main event satellite game every day start from March.
And freeroll satellite every weekend.
One suggestion: if you do not have ability to win those satellites, I do not think you have much chance to cash out in the main event. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 47 I played a lot of super turbo sng, last last week, I get 300$ by rake back.
I can get 1k ftp points per day, not so many games because of the high buyin.
But you need to be good at sng, otherwise lose money quickly.
I played super turbo satellites(100 start chips) 2 weeks ago, lose 800 bucks in one hour. My network connection is not good, my mood is bad, luck is bad. everything is wrong for that hour. I guess that week I get 300 bucks rake back.
So, you can see how quick I can clear those bonus. |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 48 nice. heard rakeback and bonus are quite some $$ source for many online
grinders.
i'm still trying in small cash games to clear mine, haha.
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buyin.
bucks in one hour. My network connection is not good, my mood is bad, luck
is bad. everything is wrong for that hour. I guess that week I get 300 bucks
rake back. |
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l**********t
发帖数: 269 | 49 1k 好多point. 我每天很努力才能打出100 ftps. have to move up limits. :(
.
buyin.
bucks in one hour. My network connection is not good, my mood is bad, luck
is bad. everything is wrong for that hour. I guess that week I get 300 bucks
rake back. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 50 lol
easy game, shove every hand.
But my network sucks, today I play 123$ buyin token game. 100 starting chips
, 30/15 start blinds.
I play 4 games at that moment, and suddenly the network disconnected, and
busted 490$ almost without playing a hand.
I guess I can get at least one token every 4 games. |
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