m****i
发帖数: 302 | 1 你对美国的系统知道得太少, short-term disability insurance, long-term
disability insurance, cobra这些都是防止你得了大病丢了工作就会破产的.
只有对自己不负责任的人才会得了大病丢了工作就破产. 更确切地说, 只有不负责任的
人才会破产.
你引用的那个破产和得大病关系的研究中提到, Out-of-pocket medical costs
averaged $17,943 for all medically bankrupt families 也就是说这些破产的, 就
是被一个不到两万的帐单给压垮了, 有社会责任感的人会这样过日子?
而所谓医改可以救这些破产的就更是无稽之谈, 同一研究中提到:three-quarters of
them(bankruptcy filers) were insured, 也就是说对于不付责任的人, 医疗保险还是
不能防止他们破产 |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 2 Warning: The Health Care Bill Could Bankrupt Your State
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,560820,00.html
中央拉屎,让地方去擦.所以不仅federal tax要涨,state tax也要涨.
What they're going to do is pass the bill and then pass the costs on to the
states. I wrote our two United States senators, both of whom are former
governors, and said, You know what that means. We'll either be forced to
raise taxes on our citizens or cut funding for important programs, like the
education of our children. That's not fair. That's no |
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e***s
发帖数: 1397 | 3 Governments do not bankrupt. They can always print money and transfer the
debt to everybody. |
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l****z
发帖数: 47 | 4 the idea of the bill, i.e., expansion of care coverage, is good.
The reality will be ugly.
troubles:
(1) if there are still many private insurance firms, then they will still
take away lot of profits to feed CEO salary.
(2) it probably need long period time to push down physician salary(hospital
cost has been down quite some)
So, with the two big troubles, the cost will go throug the roof for sure.
the outcome is very simple. US government will either go bankrupt or take
some painful measures to |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 5 hello, useful idiot.
you are forced to pay sth called medicare tax. The every penny you pay now
suppose to guarantee your medical care when you are old. So basically it is
your money.
and if you dont know, let me tell you the medicare system is almost bankrupt
if not already with 60billion fraud every year. why? because it is run by
government.
and dont finger point me for not having big heart. I am sick and tired of it
. I pay my heavy tax, I raise my own family, i am responsible for my own
fut |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 6 受不了了,怎么又来了.
1) Republicans are bad on healthcare reform, have we ever denied it? But
democraps want to drag it down even further, why should we the people
support it?
2) Obamacare cutting cost? are you living in your delusion? All it does is
to raise tax in order to cover the ponzi scheme. That is not so called
cutting cost!
3) Have you ever seen any socialism plot doing any good till the end? Name
one.
Now ponzi scheme social security is going bankrupt. This is today's news
fresh.
Social Securi |
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 7 What i believe is that banks need to be saved, and maybe be saved
differently. AIG needs to be saved in order to save banks. This is not China
. US is run on credit. When bank can not provide credit, this country is
ruined. I am not so sure about GM. It may be better let GM bankrupt and
start over. |
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e***s
发帖数: 1397 | 8 1. Believe or not, EU's healthcare level is much lower than US. Lots of
common procedures are not seen or not widely used at all in EU;
2. EU does not have so much junk population like US.
3. EU's socialism system is bankrupting. I have met lots of EU colleagues,
Belgium, France, UK, even Germany, almost none of them think their systems
will last. |
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 9 Could you ask some one that have knowledge what would happen when this
country allowed the weakest financial institutes to fail. These include
citigroup, bank of america, fre, fnm, AIG, bearstein, meryl lynch and
morganstanley. Ask whether the strong banks like well fargo, JP morgon chase
, and goldman sacks would survive when the weak died. Imaged those
institutes wanted to sell 50 millions of house in a fire sale and demanded
their 10 trillion loan back from companies like GE, Boeing, IBM, PFE |
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y****t
发帖数: 10233 | 10 you need to watch my signature video again.
what made them too big to fail? it is those fucking liberals, it is their
communism agenda.
the country is doomed if this monstracity bill of communism universal
healthcare passes, who can then bail out this country?
you useful idiots!?
chase
merck |
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 11 Only fool wants to buy 40 billions bad assets and 60 billions liability for
zero dollar by just giving them 20 billions zero interest rate loan. In the
height of credit crisis, the 40 billions asset may be worth less than 1
billion. In reality, the conditions should be more favorable. Fed sold
bankrupted Washington mutual's $327.9 billion assets to JPmorgan Chase for
only 1.9 billions and received 25 billions 5% TARP money. Washington mutual
is a big bank with banks loans totaling $689.7 billion |
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c*****r
发帖数: 8227 | 12 可以一时，终不可一世。
美利坚帝国离龙游浅水遭虾戏，虎落平阳被犬欺的日子是不远了
It's going to bankrupt the country. |
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c*****r
发帖数: 8227 | 13 唉！。。。
It's going to bankrupt the country. |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 14
You pay too much b/c government regulation drives the price high. So
government is the last place you turn to cut the price, dumbass.
And you think you have won, huh? Well Obama will bankrupt this nation so
bad he cannot tax the super rich enough to cover the bill, and then he
will turn to your "safe" shelters for some money, dumbass. Then we will
see who is the real loser. Such a through and through dumbass. |
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O*****g
发帖数: 1257 | 15 this is pathetic. just give Kahleefornia back to the Mexicans. it is going
bankrupt anyway. |
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m*********a
发帖数: 3299 | 16 Can you read, genius?
Toyota workers paid more than GM's workers.
Toyota managers paid less than GM's managers.
If GM were bankrupted again, it were the problem managers not workers. |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 17
Yeah. Such kinda welfare binge makes so much economic sense it bankrupts
the entire Europe continent. You don't know jack about economy. |
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O*****g
发帖数: 1257 | 18 and it seems this guy/gal believes in social security, well, i have bad news
for him/her, SS is going bankrupt!
and about other health-related government spending:
BTW, PPACA stands for Patient Protection and Affordable Care Act, aka
ObamaCare -- oh, the irony!
source: CBO
http://cbo.gov/ftpdocs/115xx/doc11544/Presentation5-26-10.pdf |
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发帖数: 2406 | 19 It has not become law of the land in most non-bankrupt states, not even in
California. An
D it will not. One district Judge doesn't not mean you have won, even this
one suspended his own judgement until
further appeal. More and more statutes will surely ban it through state
constitutional amendment, and eventually US
constitutional amendment.
noncitizen |
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N********n
发帖数: 8363 | 20 【 以下文字转载自 Investment 讨论区 】
发信人: NeverLearn (24K Bear - Got Silver?), 信区: Investment
标 题: 202 trillions in red
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Aug 18 22:18:48 2010, 美东)
Uh… How Much Was That?
By Doug Hornig
In an article published on Bloomberg.com, Kotlikoff writes, “Let’s get
real. The U.S. is bankrupt. Neither spending more nor taxing less will help
the country pay its bills.”
This is not a news flash. Former U.S. Comptroller General David Walker has
been barnstorming the country for the past several year |
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发帖数: 2406 | 21 Then tell me why the UK government is bankrupt?
Loser? |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 22 LOL. Have you ever listened to what you said? You obviously already forgot
your original post.
You asked me where was that 50% figure from. I told you it was from tax
bureau. Then you said it was accounting tricks and I told you tax bureau is
no fool. Plus it's not only income tax we are talking about.
and NOW, you are telling me: some business will fail anyway and get over it.
Get over WHAT?
I merely stated a fact that 50% of FIEs in China are losing money and you
simply didn't believe i... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 23 Well, first, GM example does not counter attack my statement. Reason: a. I
already told go read GM's 10K report. GM China was not a big chunk until it
failed miserably in other countries, particularly in US. As I said, had GM
China been that niub, GM wouldn't have declared bankrupt. b. I already said
"many of them" - told you to name any other companies in China that can
enjoy the treatment that GM Shanghai has.
Second, you already said you thought it was accounting trick and I already
told th... 阅读全帖 |
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m***s
发帖数: 1094 | 24 not surprised
if you want to cover more people, can't deny pre-existing conditions ... you
will have to either increase premium or go bankrupt. |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 25 民主党控制的伊利诺伊州国会通过加税法案，个人所得税增加67%，商业收入税增加46%
Quinn congratulates Democrats on income tax increase
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Posted by Ray Long and Monique Garcia at 2:15 a.m.
A triumphant Gov. Pat Quinn congratulated fellow Democrats early today after
the Illinois Senate and House sent him a major income tax increase without
a single Republican vote in favor.
Quinn smiled and shook hands on the floor of the Senate around 1:30 a.m.
after the Senate voted 30-29 for the bill, which would raise the personal
income tax-r... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 26 By Bill Lalor
The New York State GOP establishment may be on the precipice of handing
another Congressional seat to the Democrats, as it did less than 2 years ago.
In November 2009, New York's 23rd Congressional District held a special
election to fill the seat vacated by GOP Congressman John McHugh. NY
Republicans promptly set off a national melee when they nominated for Dede
Scozzafava, a state legislator whose "Republican" credentials included
steadfast support for same-sex marriage, a "Marg... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3803 | 27
ago.
great analysis done on GOP being sideliners for long.
The critics of GOP while Bush in office doing nothing is pretty legit. Even
though O'Dumba shows how many blocks worse he can be than GOP, GOP should
reflect
on its own humiliation in the forefront battles of dirty American politics.
All the incompetence and yaysayer mentality that has KIDNAPPED this once
great
nation for too long since JFK. One ambitious person could only get ahead not
only
in politics but in virtually all aspects of s... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 28 By Howard Richman, Raymond Richman, and Jesse Richman
The latest house price data (the S&P Case-Shiller index) shows a clear
downward trend for the most recent six months, as shown in the graph below:
The next graph shows how this year's data fits in with the long-term trend.
It is clear that the house price bubble, which began in 1997 and peaked in
2006, has not yet finished popping:
How We Got Here
The black stars in the above graph highlight 1951 and 1997, the two years
when Congress changed ... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 29 April 23, 2011
By Stella Paul
This week is Passover, the season of deliverance, and I'm praying for
deliverance from America's failed Jewish leadership. As Jews confront the
most dangerous era since World War II, whom are we stuck with for leaders?
A clueless bunch of mini-Pharaohs, strutting around proclaiming their moral
superiority, blissfully unaware the Jewish people's mortal enemies are
pulling down their pants and laughing at them.
Cataloguing their collective acts of evasion, cowardice... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 30 西班牙地方选举，执政的社会党大败，超过90%地区计票结果，反对党人民党领先10%
Zapatero’s Socialists Routed as People’s Party Takes 38% of Vote in Spain
By Emma Ross-Thomas - May 22, 2011 5:04 PM ET
Spain’s Socialists suffered their worst electoral defeat in more than 30
years as voters punished Prime Minister Jose Luis Rodriguez Zapatero’s
party for soaring unemployment and spending cuts that aimed to shield the
country from Europe’s debt crisis.
With 91 percent of votes counted, the opposition People’s Party won 38
percent of the ... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 31 Ann Coulter捅马蜂窝：大多数libertarians都是胆小的假货，因为怕得罪人，而不敢
就当前重要的文化问题表明立场
GET RID OF GOVERNMENT -- BUT FIRST MAKE ME PRESIDENT!
June 15, 2011
I consider all Republican debates time-fillers until New Jersey Gov. Chris
Christie jumps in, but Monday night's debate did crystallize for me why I
dislike libertarians. (Except one, who is a friend of mine and not crazy.)
They lure you in with talk of small government and then immediately start
babbling about drug legalization or gay marriage.
"Get the government... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 32 As the White House lobbies to raise the nation’s debt ceiling, why not
instead raise its moral ceiling? After decades of rewarding bad behavior, it
is in the government’s best interest—and perhaps even its duty—to
promote the morals and values that made our nation great.
The Obama administration wants Congress to raise the debt ceiling so our
government can borrow more than the almost $14.3 trillion currently allowed
by law. Conservatives want any debt increase tied to spending cuts, and a
rece... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 33 MISSOULA, Mont.—With a homemade .22-caliber rifle he calls the Montana
Buckaroo, Gary Marbut dreams of taking down the federal regulatory state.
Montana passed a law that tries to exempt the state from federal gun
regulation. But the law is now before the courts, in a test of states'
rights. WSJ's Jess Bravin reports.
He's not planning to fire his gun. Instead, he wants to sell it, free from
federal laws requiring him to record transactions, pay license fees and open
his business to government i... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 34 By Jeannie DeAngelis
Combine class warfare, demonizing the rich, getting as many people onto the
welfare rolls as possible, and pushing the economic system to collapse and
you have a flawless formula for Cloward-Piven 2.0 -- and a vehicle that
ensures Obama remains in power.
Cloward-Piven is a much talked-about strategy proposed in the mid-1960's by
two Columbia University sociology professors named Richard Andrew Cloward
and Frances Fox Piven. The Cloward-Piven approach was sometimes referred ... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 35 By Karin McQuillan
Democrats say that government can create jobs through borrowing, printing
money and spending. They warn that trimming bureaucrats from payrolls will
be an economic disaster. Republicans argue that the bigger the government
is, the smaller the private sector. The Tea Party prescription: shrink
government, lower taxes, decrease regulation, and the economy will rebound
through private enterprise.
"Facts are hard to argue with," Governor Walker of Wisconsin declared in a
Herit... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 36 By Ylan Q. Mui, Published: September 12
College graduates are the fastest-growing group of consumers who have filed
for bankruptcy protection in the past five years, according to a new study
by a financial nonprofit, which underscores the broad reach of the Great
Recession.
The survey by the Institute for Financial Literacy, slated for release
Tuesday, found that the percentage of debtors with a bachelor’s degree rose
from 11.2 percent in 2006 to 13.6 percent in 2010. The group tracked
similar b... 阅读全帖 |
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l******a
发帖数: 3803 | 37 A new Guinness record?
I will protect federal whistleblowers who expose government waste, fraud,
and abuse ......Broken
I will recognize the Armenian Genocide.....Broken
I will have transparency-generals must sign secrecy oath........Broken
I will cut the deficit in half by doubling spending–say what.......Broken
I will change the Washington culture of corruption.......................
Broken
I will reach across the isle (I’m ready to fight Republicans)....Broken
I will have no earmarks in stimu... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 38 By Jeremy Egerer
It is oftentimes complained, partially unfairly, that the American lower
classes are getting poorer and poorer. But enough has been written, by
practically every conservative think-tank, about how the welfare state and
anti-discrimination legislation destroy neighborhoods and promote the
business interests of those with poor moral constitutions (leftists,
primarily) by providing layabouts with an arsenal of unreasonable lawsuits.
This article, recognizing the above socioeconomi... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 39 ENERGY DEPARTMENT OFFICIAL IN CHARGE OF SOLYNDRA LOAN TO STEP DOWN
Posted on October 6, 2011 at 5:11pm by Tiffany Gabbay
Jonathan Silver, head of the U.S. Department of Energy’s Loan Programs
Office and man in charge of giving now-bankrupt solar panel firm Solyndra a
$535 million loan, is reportedly stepping down.
According to Fox News, DOE confirmed the decision on Thursday. Silver now
plans to join the organization Third Way as a “distinguished visiting
fellow.”
The report adds:
The car... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 40 American Crony Capitalism Brings Jobs to Finland
by Sarah Palin on Friday, October 21, 2011 at 1:09pm
Yesterday, another shoe dropped in the chronicles of the Obama
administration’s crony capitalism. A start-up electric car company with
ties to Al Gore got a $529 million loan guarantee from Obama’s Department
of Energy to build luxury electric cars...in Finland! Leaving aside the fact
that to date only two of these $97,000 cars have been sold (one of them to
a movie star), we might at least hop... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 41 President Obama’s highly-touted green jobs program -- born out of his 2009
stimulus package -- has spent more than $111 million to train 18,000 people
who still haven't landed a job.
Elliot P. Lewis, the assistant inspector general of the Labor Department,
laid out his findings Wednesday at a House Oversight and Government Reform
subcommittee hearing entitled "The Green Energy Debacle: Where Has All the
Taxpayer Money Gone?"
The Labor Department awarded $490.1 million of the $500 million it rece... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 42 占领运动抱怨错了对象：参加占领多伦多运动的28岁社会学研究生担心毕业后找不到工
作，“但我不禁想到，究竟是贪婪的华尔街还是她自己造成了她现在的困境”
Occupiers are blaming the wrong people
MARGARET WENTE | Columnist profile | E-mail
From Saturday's Globe and Mail (includes clarifications)
Published Saturday, Nov. 05, 2011 2:00AM EDT
Last updated Monday, Nov. 07, 2011 8:12PM EST
Laurel O’Gorman is one of the faces of Occupy Toronto. She believes the
capitalist system has robbed her of her future. At 28, she’s studying for a
master’s degree in sociology at Laurentian Uni... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 43 Seven of the Top Ten Wealthiest Members of Congress Are Democrats
Yes America, there is a wealth gap. Seven of the top ten wealthiest members
in Congress are Democrats.
The results are based on a new study released today by the non-partisan
Center for Responsive Politics. The Center did an analysis of the financial
statements filed by members of Congress for 2010 income and net worth.
This revelation of extreme wealth by Democratic politicians is completely
contrary to the public image of the De... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 44 “占领华尔街示威者是白痴，你看他们的采访就知道他们是傻瓜，但他们后面是ACORN
，索罗斯和民主党的核心，因此我们要加以关注”，保守派Horowitz说
Horowitz: Occupy Wall Street Protesters Are 'Idiots'
Thursday, 17 Nov 2011 01:33 PM
By Jim Meyers and Kathleen Walter
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Occupy Wall Street protesters are “morons” being exploited by the
organized left.
He also says the Republican presidential candidate could win in a... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 45 By Sarah Palin
Updated 5d 17h ago
Thanks to the solid new research and recent revelations in Peter Schweizer's
book Throw Them All Out and the subsequent coverage on 60 Minutes, we have
concrete proof to explain how members of Congress accumulate wealth at a
rate astonishingly faster than the rest of Americans and have stock
portfolios that outperform even the best hedge-fund managers'. (Full
disclosure: Schweizer is employed by my political action committee as a
foreign policy adviser.)
USA... 阅读全帖 |
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l****z
发帖数: 29846 | 46 By JOSH MARGOLIN
Last Updated: 1:11 AM, December 26, 2011
Posted: 12:53 AM, December 26, 2011
President Obama is trying to put some distance between himself and the
wreckage of bankrupt brokerage MF Global. But not too much distance.
After returning more than $70,000 to Jon Corzine, the CEO who led MF Global
into bankruptcy, the president’s re-election organizations are still
hanging onto nearly $150,000 connected to the firm, The Post has learned.
An Obama campaign official said no MF Global do... 阅读全帖 |
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Z******i
发帖数: 106 | 47 美国世纪丧钟已敲响
如果说美国的衰落正处于从2003年到2025年这22年的时期当中，那么我们已经用战争的
方式渐渐浪费掉了衰落期里首个十年的大部分光景，战争将我们的视线从长期问题上转
移，如同把水抛洒在荒凉的沙漠里，浪费掉了数万亿亟需的资金。
从现在开始，美国将会迎来长达40年之久的软着陆？可千万别指望这一点。合众国作为
全球超级大国的日子已快走到尽头，并且这个终结日期的到来速度之快远远出乎众人所
料。如果说华盛顿方面还在幻想着2040年或者2050年才会是美国世纪（the American
Century）的终点，那么对（美国）国内及全球的趋势所作的更为实际的分析则显示，
在2025年（从现在算起，仅仅15年的时间），美国便会大势去矣。
尽管大多数帝国都闪耀着万能的光环，但是只要去回顾一下它们的历史就会提醒我们：
他们不过是些易碎的机体。他们的权力生态是如此的纤弱，当形势真正开始急转直下之
时，帝国通常会以可怕的速度崩塌：葡萄牙仅仅用了一年时间便疾速衰落，苏联用了两
年，法国为八年，奥斯曼帝国是11年，英国则花了17年；如果从具有决定性意义的2003
年算起，美国极有可能在22年内... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 48 By John F. Di Leo
We think of the world of transportation -- especially trucking and
automobile manufacturing -- as being one of the most fundamental of
Democratic Party constituencies. Detroit has long been a party stronghold,
with the UAW and Teamsters among Democrats' most powerful union supporters.
From the worker at the DMV to the driver he licenses, this is one solid
chain of Democrats.
But is this political loyalty deserved today, if indeed it ever was? Since
the Democratic Party was t... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 49 Lost in all of the attacks on Mitt Romney is this important fact: venture
capitalists play a crucial role in our economy. Access to capital is often
the crucial difference between companies that succeed and those that fail.
The complications arise when government decides to play the game, using
funds generated from a completely different source, one that cares little
for metrics such as "return on investment". In fact, it would be completely
accurate to say that when government tries to play ven... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 50 By Christopher Chantrill
I've been worrying for months about Romney and the Bain Capital problem.
How was Romney, if nominated for President of the United States, going to
deal with Democrats trying to hang Bain Capital layoffs round his neck?
Paul Kengor goes into great detail on this.
This week Mitt Romey, in an "informal" campaign plane interview, showed us
how it is going to be done. Said he:
Well, I'd like to look at Barack Obama's record, and so as we talk about
my experience in the... 阅读全帖 |
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