h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 1 我最后一手AJ allin，心里感觉应该是ahead的，但因为自己不是对子，ahead一般也不
会太多（除非对手正好是Ax）。后来对上KQ，输掉allin。
我其实一直在考虑另一种打法，就是preflop先call，然后flop不管什么牌都allin（co
mmitted），好处是对方miss flop后，很可能会fold掉。坏处是原来preflop可能会fol
d的牌现在反倒hit上了。但hit和hit top pair还是有区别的，所以我觉得这种preflop
先call（特别是对方已经raise时），afterflop再allin的打法有其道理，特别是当你
的筹码在8-15BB时。
你们说呢？ |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 2 The way he played is awesome.
A lot of ppl(usually high buyin fellows) repops him. Almost 30% chance he
get repoped, then he use 4bets(almost 50% chance, the 4bet could be very
very light, of course the 3bet(might be 27o) also very very light) to
resteal it.
The stack is very deep, hard to allin. If you are short, then allin very
easily. One guy(high buyin buddy) allin him with k9s and wins, and he calls,
show tjo. But if you have 20+bb deep, he raises to 2.3BB, hard to allin, if
you 3bet him, h |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 3 nice work.
That 2nd buddy is fish. That hand you can no way to have queen, if you have,
you may just call there, because if he has one pair, he is dead already. He
must have one pair, should be an easy call. He must have XX for qqX flop.
or flush draw, I guess flush draw should be easy allin.
其中两次他和我ALL IN都输了. -----that is why he is a fish. When I call allin
, usually I have an edge, at least 5050. Or I am bullying, allin with crap,
but the opponent is under 10bb, but never call allin with crap. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 4 do not know. If qiu bets and calls allin anyway, the best way is allin.
I do not know how to play that hand, check is not good option either.
Maybe bets and folds is one possible.
bets and calls allin is OK, but got to know he is behind.
Bets big and allin on river is another option. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 5 His allin range is very wide, my calling range become very wide also.
I do fold aq preflop sometimes. but against that buddy's allin, aq is easy
easy call.
I call allin on 2nd hand because I will teach him a lesson, if he goes allin
lightly, I will call lightly. and do some advertisement. Next time, I can
reraise with AA.
P.S. let him know you can not raise my button lightly. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 6 第一次是mid pair加open ended straight draw，flop和turn都bet了，在turn被allin
（对方是mid set）；另一次是AQ vs AK，flop是AJx，turn是J，river是blank，对方
out of position，preflop raise了3x，然后一路bet，river allin。
第一手是对方allin时知道自己落后，但决定赌一下5+8个outs（实际是只有8个outs）。
第二手是preflop我就念叨，flop出Q是好牌，出A要谨慎（还有一个call preflop
raise的，不过在flop fold了）。对方turn bet size差不多80% pot，我其实那时想
fold了，因为我感觉只能beat AT（更小的Ax不太可能），但还是call了。到了river他
all in时，我有点抱侥幸心理：万一对方是驴用Ax和你乱来呢？想了好一会儿决定赌了
。这个完全不冷静，其实对方有J的可能性最大。
这两手我不算完全commit，最后还是可以抽身的，以后除非odds够好，不能用draw
call allin了（ |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 7 sometimes you can bad run.
I play on doyle room.
deal me with jj, ak allin , i call, lose
deal me with ak, jj allin, i call, lose
deal me with jj again, ak allin , i call, lose
deal me with ak again, jj allin, i call, lose
...
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 8 hehe, 1) I was at BB w/ 88. UTG 3BB (BB=4K) w/ 44 and MP call. I fold. I was
covered by both. I would triple up if I call/allin.
2) BB=5K. MP raise 2.5BB w/ A5o. BTN(short stack) all in w/ 33.
I fold my ATo at SB, I would 1.5X up.
3) BB=5K, I raise 2.5BB at MP w/ A8s, one reraise(close stack) allin w/
77 and SB (short-stack) call. I fold. Flop 88J. I would more than double
up. (many hands like these above).
4) final hand. One short-stack at EP goes allin, I reraise allin |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 9 Should say I am very lucky this time, I do not get involved with any allin
till the heads up.
Those other guys are getting crazy against chip leader, 3 bet and call allin
with Q3o against chip leader's ajo(lost one player), 3bet and call allin
with ato against chip leader's tt(lost another player), 3bet and call allin
with qks against chip leader's aqo(3rd buddy get lucky and double up.), then
he has even chip stack with chip leader, but 3bet and call all in with ato
against chip leader's ak(los |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 10 1) 24+2 for 600+ Million Guarantee entry. Top 5 get entry, top 8 has $ and 7 ppl left.
BB=2K and average=14BB. I have 17BB at SB. SB=13BB.
Preflop, SB, T4o limp in; BB check
Flop, T72 rainbow, both check
turn, 3, SB 2BB (almost pot, flush draw); BB call.
river, blank(
BB with TJ win.
Bad time to allin. And No need to allin
2) 6 for 129 entry. First gets the entry. Top 4 has $, 4 left. BB=500
Avg chip=24BB. I have 19BB at SB.
Preflop, btn limpin, SB 9s4s call and BB check
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F*******T
发帖数: 11 | 11 去年起，经常在家边赌场玩一些小的比赛，一般3到5桌，每桌10人，前4-6左右有钱。
去年来看，我的赢率是1/3，每次赢都是前三。今年，突然变得很惨，就赢了一次，一
次bubble,几次final table。
我在想是不是因为输多了，常有bad beat，就胆子变小了，心态失衡，于是就越打越烂。
说几手牌，如下。
1。这次是个大比赛，10桌以上，开局一个小时，我翻了一番有1万左右。左面有个墨西
哥胖子，感觉很驴的那种。有个对，就不放手，大起大落了几次。比我略多一点。我BB
J7offsuite，他和后面5个人limp in。flop AJ7 rainbow. SB我check,他bet 1000,别
人都fold，我觉得我两对应该比他大，就re-raise to 3000。结果他allin。我call。
他拿着A5。turn safe。river 5。提前出局。
2。又是左面墨西哥胖子，我Button flop straight, raise the 2/3 pot, 他all in
for flush draw， easy call。 he hit flush draw。 又提前出局... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 12 plo is messy. Any possiblity goes up 6X. Better not go nuts without
nuts and until river
Remember once, I won an 215 SCOOP thru satellite. I flop nut straight and
check raise and allin after re-raise. The guy had
set on flop and reach boat on turn. As that says, even you had the
nuts, you cannot go nuts until river. Anytime you allin before river, there
is either 35% or 18% you got beaten on river.
Overall that is worse than allin on flop w/ TPTK and get called by middle pair
at NLHE. You do not... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 13 赶紧来野鸡网站6max50NL，哥前天坐上一个极品桌，一把牌multiway raised flop
raise flat reraise allin， allin allin allin, 5ways，哥top 2,held 稳稳的，那
4只拿着鸡毛牌的donk瞬间被清sitout，蔚为壮观，400bb的pot的几秒钟的事 哈哈 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 14 260＋40刀买入，30分钟一级，500bb的初始筹码量，到中后期开始ante保持在六分之一
的大盲注（哥觉得相对过高，可能哥老土吧），总entry 157，final table开始pay
jump，第一名 ～$10K, 第九名～1K，钱圈20人，十到二十名～$700
跟朋友约好去fw随便玩玩cash，正巧看到这个tourney，一看有时间，所以尝试一下。
这应该算是哥的第5个live tourney。哥很少玩live tourney，原因很简单，就是觉得
没盼头，过程冗长，对体力和耐心要求很高，而且抽水太重。唯一吸引哥的就是live
table人间万象，玩家看上去都是那副很serious的样子，哥觉得挺逗。
闲话不多说，开始正文。
11点开始，桌上水平参差不齐，不乏高手，也有老爷爷用个中对追三条接的牌。哥初期
进局挺多，随着盲注提高，逐渐缩紧，没什么大pot，到40bb的时候agaisnt一个young
pro的两条街的重注，在river的scary card上，哥果断把medium strength hand turn
成了一个allin bluff，拿下。桌子到中期，仍然相当凶... 阅读全帖 |
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c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 15 没HUD所以没法估计range啊。
但是简单说就是我觉得这里需要有30%左右的allin equity。
考虑到后面还有两个人没说话，以及ICM。估计要35%左右的allin equity才能shove。
跟一个人allin肯定有35%的equity。跟两个人allin肯定没有35%。
所以这里我的打法和你前面说的一样。一个人我看stats有可能就推了。两个人我肯定
就耸了。 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 16 没有一个明确的结论是应该allin bluff还是不应该。或者应不应该call allin to
catch bluff.
这个完全是根据水平不同而不同的。在 1/2 NL live的水平，因为太多的donk， 所以
用allin 来 bluff， 可能会吓走水平高一点的对手，但是却会死在很多水平差的对手
身上。所以长期来说是很大的负EV。也因此而比较少见。
但是我相信在高一级两级的台子上，allin bluff成功的概率会高一些，出现的频率也
会多一些。 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 17 这个是太明显的特征。
开户后几天运气极好。
过了那段时间运气极烂做补偿。
再过一段时间又正常了。
记得以前在fulltilt开户后几天，打tourney半数以上能进前5，还以为自己很牛。再后
来一段时间运气极烂，很长时间进不了钱圈。
昨天养鱼塘来了很多新ID。换了几次桌，基本上都是和新ID同桌。
拿到大牌，flop老是hit不到。仅有几次拿大对，又给对方追上。
这些新ID就是大鱼打法。就是你bet他raise，你raise他allin。每次我拿大对都能和他
们的烂牌搞到allin，然后被搞死。AA preflop raise后flop 995，allin对方5,7靠，
然后来5,5.
flop拿straight，allin对方runner runner flush。
然后跑到鲨鱼塘（WPN），因为以前只打过两次，这下我成新ID了。妈的运气极好。很
多牌落后fold不掉，最后都在turn或river追上。
昨天在鲨鱼溏赢了不少。但是如果除掉运气好的那些牌，估计是要输。
关键是这两边反差太大，明显不是因为自己打的如何，是运气决定结果。 |
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f********d
发帖数: 796 | 18 第二次去打现场，第一次是刚学打牌第一个月（输的惨）。这次打牌接近一年，再次去
感受了以下。
session时常3小时，成绩是水上100刀（50bb），考虑到大概一小时20手牌，60手牌的
结果吧。
拿到的大牌有QQ两次，JJ一次，AKo两次。没有拿到过AA KK。
桌子上limper非常多，基本上除了我外很少有limper惩罚者。我在后位面对limper在15
-20刀之间试水，几次过后，桌上的反映不是大家变紧，而是有人开始拿大口袋对子
limp。坐我左边的中年白男两次拿着QQ limp。
抽水其实挺高的，桌上只有一个明显的赢家，一个亚洲帽子男（估计是中国人），后面
会讲几手他的牌
打了3个大于100bb的pot。赢了两个输了一次。
牌例1：
hero is at CO with Ah9h, 3limper，hero open 15。 utg中年白男 calls。 heads
up。
flop is 7dJdJx. utg check, hero check.
turn is 7x, utg bet 20. hero call.
river is 6x, utg b... 阅读全帖 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 19 Because your bet on turn already made you pot committed.
You didn't allin on turn, but it was equal to allin.
Three options:
1.Allin.
The guy would most likely fold. You win $22 from him.
2.Reraise to $66.
The guy had 8% chance to hit fullhouse.
If he didn't hit,and then you allin, he would most likely to call .
Totally win $66+$136=about $200
If he hit, you lose $66+$136=about $200.
3.Call on turn and check on river, the guy would bet for sure.
If he didn't hit, then let's say he bet $50, and y |
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c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 20 you can also limp with AK in early positions and reraise big when button
tries to steal. When out of position, it's also not a bad play to
reraise allin with AK, but you have to balance the allin reraise with KK
sometimes, otherwise, good players may realize you only reraise allin
with AK and call you down with pairs. For AA, it's actually best to reraise
a good amount, but not allin to attract more money.
Also, Sklansky recomment a deep limp strategy, when there is a limper or two,
you still ca |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 21 lol
do not know, that hand he has to allin on the flop.
Maybe just your luck is better than his in that game.
I probably will play the same way, allin with second pair.
if that pot is not that huge, I might fold 2nd pair. But allin or fold, both
are ok. Need luck to win!
I watched hand history again. Sounds you make a mistake, you can call, instead of re-raise there, because he could easily have top pair there. You call, and see what he is doing on the turn. then allin.
Sin he only bets 30k , an |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 22 any 3bet means allin.
I do not want to 3bet allin with ak.
But I want to allin with aa preflop.
He must have aj+, 88+ preflop(,which means he has a hand to call a 3bet raise), if he calls my 3bet, and catch any piece on
the flop, he will allin on the flop. |
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B******Z
发帖数: 9193 | 23 季后赛又可以allin了，要是奥登大帝恢复了就allin南滩双星队，要不然就allin印第
安纳黑姚明带领的走步队 |
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s******r
发帖数: 21961 | 24 这个经是经历的“经”。
本来觉得自己没有资格来凑这个热闹的，这里老马多的是，我算哪根葱啊。
其实我在NBA版只能算新赌友，应该是从3月到现在。
但在这里吃了不少包子和夜宵，总该为了繁荣版面作些贡献。
我以前很爱看篮球，小时候小学中学的操场很小，没有足球场，就一直打篮球。
前几年因为椎间盘突出，不打了也不看了。
去年横空出世了个几厘米林，才有捡起NBA看，那时候主要在熊猫的版面看看发发水贴。
今年super bowl赢了些伪币，有大800吧，就开始得瑟了。正好看到NBA在篮版的广告就
摸着门来了。（所以2位版主要常去做做广告）
赌了快四个月，人头也熟了些，兜里也几涨几瘪。就发些新赌徒感想吧：
1。尽量避免allin，最多进2/3。我几次在500以上的allin，输面80%。尽量留些种子翻
本。
2。不要相信NBA有人情。马刺对灰熊的第4场，我想怎么样这老头队要给人留分面子，
不会剃光头吧。全部allin，青皮了。
3。不要投入自己的感情。决赛6/7场，虽然自己知道热队实力超过马刺，最差的短板教
练方面也有背头来补上。但我就是看不过热队的嚣张，希望马刺赢，所以2次都输得好
惨，特别是第七场... 阅读全帖 |
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J********9
发帖数: 36508 | 25 不是月经的‘月’？
2、3两条是经验教训 赞一个
应该本着谁替你赢wb就支持谁的基本原则
这个经是经历的“经”。
本来觉得自己没有资格来凑这个热闹的，这里老马多的是，我算哪根葱啊。
其实我在NBA版只能算新赌友，应该是从3月到现在。
但在这里吃了不少包子和夜宵，总该为了繁荣版面作些贡献。
我以前很爱看篮球，小时候小学中学的操场很小，没有足球场，就一直打篮球。
前几年因为椎间盘突出，不打了也不看了。
去年横空出世了个几厘米林，才有捡起NBA看，那时候主要在熊猫的版面看看发发水贴。
今年super bowl赢了些伪币，有大800吧，就开始得瑟了。正好看到NBA在篮版的广告就
摸着门来了。（所以2位版主要常去做做广告）
赌了快四个月，人头也熟了些，兜里也几涨几瘪。就发些新赌徒感想吧：
1。尽量避免allin，最多进2/3。我几次在500以上的allin，输面80%。尽量留些种子翻
本。
2。不要相信NBA有人情。马刺对灰熊的第4场，我想怎么样这老头队要给人留分面子，
不会剃光头吧。全部allin，青皮了。
3。不要投入自己的感情。决赛6/7场，虽然自己知道热队实力超过马刺，最差的短板教
练... 阅读全帖 |
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p*t
发帖数: 275 | 26 第一手在turn上没有allin就会出这种问题，不过allin也不见得是最佳play，万一那人
straight。
KK那手在flop还是应该allin或者raise他。 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 27 SNG10人单桌.
allin 或raise,道理是一样的,只是量不同而已.
如果你在前期chip损失太多,到后来就熬不下去,只有拼命了.
相反就算你前期chip翻了一倍,到剩5人时,也不过就是平均水平.也不能保证进钱圈.而
你为这个冒的风险,可能3牌中只有一牌成功,另两牌就早早出局.
而且开始时,大家都是拼命的打法,一手牌3个同时allin是经常见的.
到剩5人时,大家都谨慎了.这时你allin,别人不一定愿意跟.
总的来说,打SNG要能忍.
我自从打cash game后,回去打SNG,很难赢了.忍不住了,拿到牌就想上,控制不住自己. |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 28 In live poker, anyone serious about allin should not be called fishes. That
definition should change as environment change.
Those who are fishes in online poker, should not be called fishes in live
poker.( I still remember an article said, one guy with pocket KK, when flop come an A and opponent allin, he thought about 5 minutes and finally decide to call and beat)
Besides, a fish would not only do a standard bet on flop, if he was AA or
KK or AQ, most likely he would allin already.A standard be |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 29 I will allin, or check raise allin when any of them bet.
If I think likelihood of a bet after me is high, I would choose check raise
, otherwise would allin first. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 30 FTP，180个人，2个entry到下一轮。一般就是allin allin，输了就再register。其中
有两局运气好，弄到9000左右开始好好玩，结果一个拿了前两名，另一个第四。
拿第四那场，最后一手是A4，我筹码还可以，7万多，排第二，第三是6万多，第四是2
万多，结果第一拿到KK，在我后面call了，他10来万筹码。我输了。
其实到最后这几个人的时候，我还是不应该allin了，raise到2BB就可以，如果他再
raise，A4这种牌就丢。我当时筹码排第二，情况还好。
这个freeroll极难注册，只有大概2秒的window。。而且玩法太无聊了。。 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 31 miniftop HU game,
Brazil buddy makes at least 2 big mistakes.
1. Limp pot, paired board, allin with one pair, the other guy has trips
2. Limp pot, flop a monster draw, and allin with it, should fold no matter
how big is the draw.
mitiftop Event #10
one guy is crazy, on final table, KO the other 7 or 8 guys.
Get lucky several pot, A4 vs AK, preflop allin, flop 2 pair
But he owns the table, doom to win, best performer on that table. -----
raise 75% pot
FTOP Event #10
the buddy squeeze with a |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 32 唯一的小问题是allin时筹码少了点（不过即使那样对方的call也很差）。
不过这个问题是无法克服的，flop的bet已经不算很大了，而flop bet更少或者allin都
不好。
如果再要深究的话，preflop可以少raise一点，3x即可，flop bet $10，然后allin，
hehe。不过没觉得楼主打得有什么问题。 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 33 So your choices are:
1. if you fold that hand at SB, you'll have 7k left;
2. if you go allin and win, you'll have about 22k.
let's say you fold next hand at button, then:
1. you have to go allin at BB.
2. you have about 15k left, and as you said, you might still have to go
allin at BB.
So is your argument "since 7k and 22k don't make much difference when I'm at
BB two hands later, I'd better fold this hand because winning two hands in
a row is much harder"?
I think it makes sense. One may argue |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 34 一直没时间玩MTT，昨晚干脆拿这个token玩了1个45人的SNG，前6名in the money，基
本上是前三名pay得比较多。
我进final table的时候筹码不是很多，但大家差得也不太悬殊，blinds是300/600，还
没有ante。我一直挺保守的，steal很少，希望别人先bubble了再说。
后来拿到这手AK，我希望最大化收益，做了min-raise。flop出来后对手bet 1400，我
其实想过他会不会有set，但是这手牌fold不太可能，call了以后我基本也commit了，
所以raise allin希望能打走flush draw。我想问的是：
1. 按我的筹码情况和现在的人数，preflop minraise还是allin好？
2. flop出来后，我是不是call更好？因为我后来觉得raise allin只会迫使KQ或者mid
pair这样的牌fold，而flush draw可能还是要call，那还不如只是call，万一再出黑桃
，有fold的选择。
3. 对手在这样的board lead out，其实应该挺强的，因为我preflop的minraise很 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 35 这牌BB最后也可以allin.他没allin是因为read上输一着.
象这种交锋最后斗的是感觉(read),而不是打法.
决定因素是read而不是打法.
button continuation bets, BB check raises, button re-raise with air, BB
folds.
lead, button reraises, BB shove it in, button calls allin.
vs button raises, it has no value to hit a set.
440k. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 36 I have a lot of similar experience.
I know BB will repop me. I limp with aqo, he raises to 3.5bb. I 3bet to 9bb,
he allin, I call. BB shows q8o.
The same guy, raises on the button, I repop(3bet) him to 10bb with 57o. He
allin on me, I have only 30BB left at that moment, I know he can not have
much, I call his allin with 57o, he shows a3o.
My calling range and re-raise range adjusts according to the players.
AQ
FOLD了. 这牌好像怎么也拿不下来. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 37 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 昨天亏了 the 2nd hand is tricky. I guess will allin anyway. No matter button reraises
(bb will allin at this situation or call then shove the flop), or BB
reraises,(no matter button calls or re-reraises, it is allin)
既然你
念之间的天壤之别, 没有什么过多分析的必要, 有时候靠感觉了. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 38 其实你提到了short stack strategy的一个方面，当short stack allin时，其他
player就会碰到B的这种情况，搞到后面被迫fold，所以开始就不敢call这个allin，即
使他已经有money in the pot。这些dead money提高了short stack allin的价值。 |
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w***w
发帖数: 6301 | 39 "He is betting out strong when you shown weakness."
I don't think his action is based on my weakness.
MP is not a place to cbet and bluff.And two strong bet both preflop and flop
is not a pattern to bluff.
For the second hand I put him on middle pair (99-QQ).
If turn come out a K or A(or J,Q if he is 99 or TT), that will cause him to fold further bet from me.
And yes some one may fold my allin and someone could call.
1 in 5 calling my allin would make allin a better choice.
Rush poker is not li |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 40 turn 不bet倒是正常,river不bet简直就是白痴,rush poker,if you have good hand
bet bet bet, rasie raise raise, allin allin allin |
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k******t
发帖数: 257 | 41 Can't believe it if they don't have history. To call allin with Q high
against
"don't go broke with top pair" normal players simply is insane. However I
had called A high K high allin couple times against aggresive player who
bluffed allin 8 high earlier. people give action to whom has action usually.
head
anything |
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t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 42 三天下来我的ev比winning高出4个buyin...今天一天吃掉我2.5buyin...AA preflop
allin被
flop set，QQ vs KQs flop allin被runner-runner flush，99 preflop allin vs AJ
被river 4-card over flush...br被削掉一截...从来没这么背过... |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 43 it is 16+1$ super turbo. first gets around 28**$.
The last one is that I call allin, pretty sick. I do not mind if I go allin,
and gets called, and lost. However, it sucks if I calls others allin and
lose. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 44 For pairs, one level up means a ton, it means you can dominate other ppl's
hand(, meanwhile other ppl's chance to dominate you is less likely). JJ are
much different from TT, especially on that flop.
If you are so confident on the turn, you should c/r him allin on the turn.
If you bet out that way on the turn, all better hands will put you allin.
However, less hands will fold.
Plus, if you bet out that way, btn guy allin, I guess you will call any way.
If that is true, you should check, and let |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 45 谢谢两位高见 刚真郁闷kk ep
called shortstack allin in tourney
another caller hit flop set, then i allin my rest half chips
got wiped out
早知道直接allin，怪我太贪心。。。 |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 46 turn：这牌他很可能是99。 89，78，10 10 也有可能， 两个方片也有可能。
他call 你的river allin bet, 应该就是99，tt.
他不太好处理这牌的river， 如果你有方块draw, 它应该可以让你bluff来得到value,
如果他block bet, 很容易被bluff fold掉 . 如果你有tt, 他有99， 他应该250美刀
block bet. 他不block bet, jj 95%肯定是nuts,很容易吃大注。
当然，如果你是air ball, such as A2dd, A3o, 他的打法又是对的。
个人认为：他的river call 有问题。因为没有block bet[represent 88, 99, tt, jj,
qq], 很容易被别人value town,就更不应该call 大注.
问题：如果fcf 有99， TT, turn 上是donk lead还是c/c.如果donk lead,lead 多少？
如果fcf 有99， TT, river 上 是不是block bet? block bet 的概率多大？block bet 多... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 47 下面这手牌我玩得很烂，以前玩的，发现river上双方都挺amazing的。。
HEM显示EV $ diff是-$23.43，意思应该是我虽然赢了$16.88，但从EV角度来说应该是$
(16.88-23.43)=-$6.55，对么？这个值到底是怎么算出来的？
我感觉应该从allin的那一轮开始算，可那时我已经100%赢，不大对头啊。从preflop开
始算也不对头，因为那时候我并没有决定allin。比如，44对KK，如果flop有4，双方
allin，那么44的EV应该接近全赢，而不是接近全输。
Full Tilt Poker $0.10/$0.25 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players - http://www.handconverter.com/hands/1089861
The DeucesCracked.com Hand History Converter
CO: $25.22
BTN: $25.10
SB: $8.30
BB: $44.25
Hero (UTG): $17.48
UTG+1: $26.29
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MP1: $38.68... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 48 but sometimes you have to "re-evaluate". when you checked the turn, you didn
't expect him to allin. you only expected to extract one value bet (so you'
ll raise the river and he will likely to fold).
One tell is that he often allin bluffs on river. that's why calling him may
not be bad. Don't put him on a Q. He wants a call if he has a Q so allin is
unlikely. He may have a pocket pair and 99 is not that bad because he didn't
3bet preflop. Or he just has an A high.
call and win may have another ... 阅读全帖 |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 49 Yep I think 4bet at least is not bad EV wise. It should be small +EV.
If I were the short stack, I would 3bet allin directly to maximize my fold
equity and remove fold equity for the opponent.
Sure this would give a tell that I probably didn't have AA/KK. But overall
it's not that bad because:
1. I'm not folding QQ in this situation anyway, so I'm not worried that AA/
KK senses my "weakness". And if someone uses this "leak" to correctly (odds
wise) calls with AK, I am not in bad shape either. If... 阅读全帖 |
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L****n
发帖数: 490 | 50 Yeah, the rake is pretty high for 1/2 table. Probably, it's better to play 2
/5 table there. Since they charge the same amount money.
There are a lot of fishes to compensate for it though. Even I raise to 20
dollars preflop, still 2-4 ppl call behind. There are so many fish moves I
saw during few hours of play. I saw fish calling 80 bucks preflop allin with
33, Kj offsuit in a there way pot.
A fish call my big turn raise, and river allin with just second pair when
board has a 4 card straight.
I ... 阅读全帖 |
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