w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 1 I say not in this training cycle. Not because 30-40mpw is too low, but
because your HM pace is too slow. But
you never know. Maybe you just didn't train well for your half. 40mpw is
just fine for you, but you gotta be
patient with the improvement on your marathon pace. |
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 2 I say not in this training cycle. Not because 30-40mpw is too low, but
because your HM pace is too slow. But
you never know. Maybe you just didn't train well for your half. 40mpw is
just fine for you, but you gotta be
patient with the improvement on your marathon pace. |
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p***r 发帖数: 4859 | 3 算是顶着板砖上啊。 现在20MPW, HM勉强SUB 2. 因为时间有限,只能来个30-40MPW的
计划。这个样子SUB4有希望吗? |
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 4 for first time marathoners, there is really no point in targeting exactly 4
hours. It's not like there is any kind of
special award for going sub 4. by the time you finish your last long run and
ready to taper, you'd know
roughly how fast you can run the marathon. with low mileage like 30-40mpw,
it is unlikely that one can run
the marathon race much faster than the long runs in training. you should
feel pretty good if you can hold your
20-mile training pace for an extra 6.2 miles in the race. |
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e******x 发帖数: 42 | 5 这个和我的情况很相似。一个月前突然想跑个马拉松,现在一周了练三次,约40MPW. 9
月第二个周末马拉松,目标是3个半小时左右。 |
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p***r 发帖数: 4859 | 6 算是顶着板砖上啊。 现在20MPW, HM勉强SUB 2. 因为时间有限,只能来个30-40MPW的
计划。这个样子SUB4有希望吗? |
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 7 for first time marathoners, there is really no point in targeting exactly 4
hours. It's not like there is any kind of
special award for going sub 4. by the time you finish your last long run and
ready to taper, you'd know
roughly how fast you can run the marathon. with low mileage like 30-40mpw,
it is unlikely that one can run
the marathon race much faster than the long runs in training. you should
feel pretty good if you can hold your
20-mile training pace for an extra 6.2 miles in the race. |
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e******x 发帖数: 42 | 8 这个和我的情况很相似。一个月前突然想跑个马拉松,现在一周了练三次,约40MPW. 9
月第二个周末马拉松,目标是3个半小时左右。 |
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O****e 发帖数: 3290 | 9 假定在同样的level,按照运动的时间,可以大慨换算一下吧,
An elite runner can finish a 26mile(?) marathon in about 2.5 hours. That
gives a roughly 10mph pace
An elite biker's pace in a century ride is probably about 25mph.
Given these data, I would say 3 times the distance is about to be right.
前段时间看跑版讨论业余training的weekly mileage。他们的consensus好像是40mpw
is decent and is quite manageable by a relatively dedicated runner. 70mpw is
a little too much but can still managed by a dedicated runner. Using the 3
times relation, 40mpw = |
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m******i 发帖数: 9479 | 10 gilda不练长跑的,说实话是有点站着说话不腰疼。
30mpw,准备半马都够了。一般正常人不超过40mpw比较好,跑版昨天刚有医生转了篇文
章,说每周4-5次,40mpw以下(除非是elite runner),否则受伤的概率明显提高。不
跑的日子可以做骑车或者游泳或者其他的cross training |
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 11 It all depends on what kind of shape you are in. A few years ago I felt that
40mpw was a mark. I got injured often when I went above 40mpw. Then before
I noticed, 40 became my routine weekly mileage. Last year I started to get
comfortable at 50mpw, something difficult for me previously. But I got
injured when I went up to about 57mpw. Of course, the injury was caused by
many different things. Later I was able to go up to 70mpw while slowing down
my pace significantly. This year I got comfortable |
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l**n 发帖数: 2405 | 12 10mpw -> 20mpw takes not much effort.
20mpw -> 40mpw takes lots of effort.
40mpw -> 80mpw, you must be ban zhu level. |
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M*****a 发帖数: 2054 | 13 火星皇帝啊
那个忒快了
我觉得能够用40mpw,有效的话,那也是不错的
毕竟我就这个月闲得慌,跑得略微多一点,50mpw,以后估计还是要30-40mpw为主 |
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R*********r 发帖数: 5 | 14 这几天在感冒中,累又烦。。。
人到中年开始跑步,慢慢加量到最近(Jan/Feb of '13)~40mpw. 一月底一周感冒,现
在二月底一周又感冒,只能休息。 我体资以前扁差,但也是几年才感冒一次,而且没
打预感shot. 现在打预感也好像没用。
有经验的跑友们, 跑步(high intensity. 40mpw 对我是)期间如何有效预防感冒?求
教啊。。。 不考虑放弃跑步。 |
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y**********u 发帖数: 6366 | 15 嗯,我主要回国3个月,回来连着想上量到40mpw
每次直接上到40mpw,第二周就病倒。。。 |
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m******i 发帖数: 9479 | 16 我就想把回国吃回来的十磅体重减回去。现在都快三周了,好像收效也不是很明显。
任务相当艰巨啊……因为现在运动量越来越大,饿肚子越来越不现实。
而对我而言最好的减体重的办法是少量运动加大量节食。
我之前跑30到40mpw的时候,平均每天吃大概1500,还长肉啊!!!按照这个的计算我
的BMR是1300左右。崩溃了…… |
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f*******d 发帖数: 12693 | 17 不用了,如果能坚持2个月,这40mpw他应该就可以坚持得下去。
要欺负他的话就不这么玩了,给他一个带long run带speed workout的计划就可以。 |
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f*******d 发帖数: 12693 | 18 刚才赌的第二个月40mpw,一下子冲60以上的容易受伤,我还是积点德行吧。 |
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m******r 发帖数: 9604 | 19 呵呵,你得排到老猪后面了。他的赌不是这4个礼拜的,而是接下来一个月的(40mpw) |
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f*******d 发帖数: 12693 | 20 我的伪币只赌你下个月的,40mpw,confirm。 |
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f*******d 发帖数: 12693 | 21 respect the distance。
不用休息一个礼拜,不然就前功尽弃了。明天休息一天,后天开始先慢跑3迈,争取一
周20迈,然后剩下的两周慢慢加到25,下个月每周加4迈,到2个月的时候能达到40mpw
就给你发钱。 |
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g*****r 发帖数: 4444 | 22 猪哥 is really super nice!
40mpw |
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o*******r 发帖数: 4921 | 23 yes, respect the distance.
我这周准备把我的mileage从30加到40~45,我刻意把pace整整降低了3min,而且刻意
heel landing, 不这样的话,我的脚踝和脚跟会受不了.
40mpw |
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d*i 发帖数: 9453 | 24 【 以下文字转载自 Running 讨论区 】
发信人: foolsgold (谁抢了我的红酒!!!!!!!!!), 信区: Running
标 题: [合集] 跑步减肥这事基本不靠谱
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Oct 29 12:16:56 2010, 美东)
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maynot (rrrrrrrllllllrrrrr) 于 (Thu Oct 28 21:48:08 2010, 美东) 提到:
从七月开始,坚持每礼拜跑两次,到现在四个月了,体重变动范围为 3-4 lb,现在又
回去了,体型倒是稍稍往好的方向有点变化,肚子好像变小了点,大腿粗了,小腿细了
,上身没啥大变化。基本就是保持体形的样子,不敢和班上跑半马全马的比,牛人该干
嘛还是干嘛,我就是来这围观的。
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SEM (Slow Eye Movement) 于 (Thu Oct 28 21:52:14 2010, 美东) 提到:
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S*M 发帖数: 10832 | 25 搭车问增肌和跑步有没有可能balance?
我跑步不为减肥,只为跑步
不知道每周跑多少就会影响到增肌
30MPW?40MPW? |
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g********n 发帖数: 1015 | 26 减肥靠少吃,维持靠运动。 千古真理。
20mpw想减肥可不成, 起码40mpw。 不过我体力跟不上, 每次8m以上,后面一天都要
歇的。 ws的跑法是每天4-5m, 跑6天。 |
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y**********u 发帖数: 6366 | 27 超过40mpw,对我来说,就有点头晕,感觉吃饭做事用不上力
芦笛 |
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y**********u 发帖数: 6366 | 28 40mpw在跑版绝对是average以上的。。。我觉得准备马拉松都足够了
芦笛 |
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b****i 发帖数: 11322 | 29 非常少,要增加1倍,跑至少40MPW.加油哈
150 |
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n****l 发帖数: 571 | 30 MPW?
非常少,要增加1倍,跑至少40MPW.加油哈
150 |
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n****l 发帖数: 571 | 31 不过让我一下子跑40MPW, 我自己都没有信心和欲望。
慢慢增加吧 |
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b****i 发帖数: 11322 | 32 跑40MPW可以考虑,不然就算了....吃复合维生素吧....... |
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b****i 发帖数: 11322 | 33 ft。。。能不能减掉,对你来说,能不能管住嘴是关键啊。。。
不过,不是说,40mpw以上基本可以随便吃么?你每周里程多少? |
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b****i 发帖数: 11322 | 34 隔天10k没有40mpw哦。。。不过我没有assume在减肥。。。要保持我现在就保持了,根
本不跑多少 |
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b****i 发帖数: 11322 | 35 对于运动健将来说,40mpw可以随便吃的说法就不成立了。。。你们绝对的high
maintanance |
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 36 我的主要point是,是否overtrain了,是针对每个人的能力而言的.
同样40MPW,对有些人是undertrain, 对有些人是overtrain...
跑版一向反对乱跑,盲目乱跑乱训练,如果非要举喜欢随意乱跑的例子,
号召大家不管什么伤都要run through的, 我只能举大使...
Running Streak的活动本来也是大使的点子,我本来是反对的,但
为了配合他搞活动,也就参合了,没想到现在反过头来怪到我头上?
我对师妹没任何意见,观点不同而已, 喜欢抓马的继续.... |
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 37 哦,Hal Higdon novice 1。好像peak有40mpw,还递增地挺快的。
建议你不要用这么多incline... 1.0就好了。然后速度控制在心跳75%-80%左右的区间。 |
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m****i 发帖数: 1980 | 38 i don't think 30 miles a week can shred 30lbs in 10 months, i did 30-40mpw
for three months last year, nothing happened, as long as i eat whatever i
want.
i can lose some weight if i am on carb free diet! but then i feel weak and i
can't keep up my running... |
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w****1 发帖数: 4931 | 39 I could handle 40mpw, barely, when my BMI was 25.8. But that was because I
lift weights in the gym almost everyday and eat whatever I wanted to.
above |
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f*******d 发帖数: 12693 | 40 其实hal higdon的就可以了,应该不需要40mpw,他的全马advanced II也就是50不到点
的peak。 |
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f*******d 发帖数: 12693 | 41 for a life time experience, 40mpw for 18 weeks is well well enough and
absolutely worths everything you suffer. |
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 42 有希望。我09年8月之前就是20mpw左右,8月23日自测半马1:52,9月5日自测5k 21:15。
然后开始加量4周(41mi, 48mi, 50mi, 34mi),10月4日自测全马3:44,刚好是1:52的两
倍。 |
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f*******d 发帖数: 12693 | 43 你之前的hiking可不是白练的。半马1小时50分和2小时区别还是不小,如果楼主刚开始
练跑步的话,觉得不大可能sub 4.
15。 |
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 44 哦,的确是,09年春天对hiking比较狂热,差不多每周末都去hiking 3-10小时。
那时候,跑步才是cross training。 |
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g*****r 发帖数: 4444 | 45 。。。。这个很encouraging啊。
15。 |
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 46 你是跑半马前就有65mpw的小魔女,nothing is impossible啊! |
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 47 你这个自测全马成绩比较厉害, 一般人初马比赛都达不到这个水平。。。。
量加的也很快, 我第一次斑马前加到40迈就歇了。。。
15。 |
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 48 我一周之后的初马比赛也达不到这个水平...直接ITBS了,差2分钟。 |
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R*****s 发帖数: 41236 | 49 我最近似乎也体会到了stability鞋子的坏处, 准备彻底换代了。。 |
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b***i 发帖数: 10018 | 50 我从来都没穿过stability。。。我把ITBS归罪于水泥sidewalk。 |
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