d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 1 难道又是超级悲剧的一天
1 4.5k gtd 1r/1a 11 + 10 + 10
2 3k gtd 1a 60 + 55
3 4k gtd turbo 44
4 7.5k gtd 11
5 2.5k gtd 1a 11 + 10
晚上8pm,internet 开始抽筋,果断de-register第六场,试图借邻居的网络完成剩下
的比赛,不想,laptop运行poker软件又碰到问题,折腾到了9点,internet自动恢复,
哥一边问候comcast一边打开poker软件,
3号已经挂了
1号<10bb, 果断shove,挂
2号,尼玛120刀的买入啊!哥断线的时候是10k的chips,回来只有4.8k,且盲注400,
第二手哥小盲,44果断3bet shove utg chips leader的2bb open。对手tank and fold
,嘟嘟哝哝说kq,30% equity都没有,真把哥当rock了。紧接着下一把,哥button
with k5o,15bb stack,ope... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********k 发帖数: 1989 | 2 Rush, 10C/25C NL
1) 33 or other small pair<=77, SB/BB, one/two 3BB raise from UTG/MP
2) 33 or other small pair<=77, MP, one/two 3BB raise from UTG/+1
3) KQ or other two face card (not ace), SB/BB, one/two 3BB raise from UTG/MP
4) A8/9/10, MP/SB/BB, just on 3BB raise from UTG/MP
Found too many bluff in Rush, while there are concentration on big hands.
There
are limpy hand, tough to deal. |
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y********n 发帖数: 2063 | 3 I am unhappy about the result also.
But I rethought about AJ hand later on, I guess I have to double him up.
Preflop, he has around 19BB, I get around 50BB.
I have aj, I have to raise preflop, 2.2BB. I raise, he calls, pot around 4.
5BB. On the J9s4s board, I have to bet 3BB, he has to call 3BB.
pot 10BB, he has 19BB-2.5BB-3BB=13.5BB left. The pot is around 10BB. The
turn is very tricky cards, 8s. (If I check, he will bet for 3BB for sure, I
have to call, then we will go all in the river) (If I |
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f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 4 if u raise to 2BB, most likely ppl (BB and limpers) will call you with only
one more BB.
if u raise to 3BB or the old "standard", since nowadays ppl mix up a real
hand with other position raises, probe raises, etc., sometimes you'll feel
3BB is actually too much if you raise a lot of hands.
so the new standard now is like 2.2-2.5BB, big enough to kick some guys out
but at the same time, not as expensive as 3BB for yourself. if one guy is
going to call 2.5BB no matter what, then he's very likely ... 阅读全帖 |
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f********d 发帖数: 796 | 5 本人从2016年初开始打牌,一直努力学习。目前主打bovada 9max NL50.我会把每天有
意思的牌普记录下来,有打的臭的,打的好的。大家一起讨论学习。
从7月开始用软件记录自己的成绩,目前好像是5bb/100 hand,大概2-3万手牌吧。之前
在水木上贴牌普,以后两边一起更新。
hand8
好久没来了,发两手nit fold
hero has KJo MP, V open 3bb EP. Hero call. both has around 100bb
flop JJ8 R, V check, hero bet 60% pot. V call
Turn 4, now board has two d. V check , hero bet 70% pot. V call
River is 7d, V shove allin. Hero tank fold
这个对手有点疯,但是我读他可能是88,9dTd这样的牌。
hand 9
hero has AKo MP open 3bb,V is in CO call the open. both 100b
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f********d 发帖数: 796 | 6 本人从2016年初开始打牌,一直努力学习。目前主打bovada 9max NL50.我会把每天有
意思的牌普记录下来,有打的臭的,打的好的。大家一起讨论学习。
从7月开始用软件记录自己的成绩,目前好像是5bb/100 hand,大概2-3万手牌吧。之前
在水木上贴牌普,以后两边一起更新。
hand8
好久没来了,发两手nit fold
hero has KJo MP, V open 3bb EP. Hero call. both has around 100bb
flop JJ8 R, V check, hero bet 60% pot. V call
Turn 4, now board has two d. V check , hero bet 70% pot. V call
River is 7d, V shove allin. Hero tank fold
这个对手有点疯,但是我读他可能是88,9dTd这样的牌。
hand 9
hero has AKo MP open 3bb,V is in CO call the open. both 100b
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s*********k 发帖数: 1989 | 7 It is so true. But it is tough tough.
The best scenario is that there is 3BB proflop raise before you and you just
limp in.
If none, tough, tough. If just limp in, as you said, it exposes huge risk to
be beaten by trash hand.
Well, if you raise 3BB, 50+% chance are all fold and you just have SB/BB.
And you donot have AA/KK often.
I tried to raise 2BB but no good results. Seems 2BB is lethal than
3BB
pre-flop raise. More likely to have all others fold if you are at EP/MP.
the
never |
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p******a 发帖数: 975 | 8 我的想法是这样的,欢迎chem老师来探讨一下。
2bb open的话就给BB一个非常好的odd。call 1bb to win 3.5bb pot。假设BB的牌是
Q3o,flop hit pair Q和2 pair+的概率接近20%。这本身就是一个+ev call了。同时因
为pot很小,意味着如果用45s,22之类的牌call的话imply odds很大,fold equity很
高。如果再考虑前面的位置也有人call的话,BB几乎可以+ev无脑call任何牌。同时
late position比如button可以非常cheap的3bet bluff,然后利用position玩postflop
。也使得early position opener很难打。根据thoery of poker,玩牌赢钱的方法是让
对手make wrong move。所以除非对手非常tight,不停fold to 2bb open(wrong move
),否则是很难赢钱的。
5bb open涉及到open range的问题。我也没有太想明白。极限的情况比如hero只open
QQ+和AK,遇到3bet就
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d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 9 1 3K 1R/1A 11 + 10 + 10
2 3K 1R/1A 60 + 55 + 55
3 2K 22
4 3K Turbo 1R/1A 44 + 40
5 4K R/1A 11 + 10 + 10
6 4.5K 33
哥觉得自己是属青蛙的:
1号,11bb a5o在UTG推没人接。k9o,小盲位3bet shove 11bb,CL kq call,挂
3 号,庄家位15bb AQo 3bb open,小盲flat,flop 84Jr cbet ½/call了小盲位
橙色玩家的raise shove,对方亮出 83s and hold(好吧),挂
6 号,AKo 4bet shove to 50bb jj,输到只剩10bb。大盲位用a4o 9bb squeeze 一个
松哥ep 2bb的open以及后面一群松哥flat的4-way的pot,庄家位平call/reshove with
ATs,CO玩家,用... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 10 哥越来越体会到,越到后来,payout jump对决策的影响越大,只凭感觉来决定对策,
真的是在送钱。争取这个星期内,在原来的app上加入icm的计算。
昨晚手贱,8点的时候报了一个低买入高保证金的tourney,尼玛900人,整整耗了哥6个
半小时,只赢了一点点零花钱。
分享两手牌,哥不确定自己打的对不对,看看大家意见。
hand 1, ~40bb stack, position 5/11, hero kjo 19/17/6 open 2.5bb on utg+1,
all fold to sb, 18bb stack 21/15/4, who is an average player with not- high
aggression factor, call, bb fold
(pot ~6.2bb)flop 2c6cJd, villain check, hero bet ~3.8bb, v call
(pot ~14bb)turn 8h, v check, hero bet ~4.6bb, v call
(pot ~24bb)river 9s, v donk pot size ... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 11 1 1K 11
2 750 3.3 $7.78
3 1.5K 11
4 1K 11
5 1.5K 3.3+3+3 $28.75
6 3K 11+10+10
1号,UTG+1,TJs 12bb open shove,take down。UTG A7o open shove 14bb into QQ,
knockout
2号,大盲位88 14bb 3bet shove rock 2.1x open + a flatter,take down。换桌,
第一把,UTG 16bb open shove with A9o,被两家AJo call到,suckout!紧接着第二
把,AKo,接了16bb 和8bb的两连推,hold!wow!card dead + busy with other
tables = auto ITM,呵呵。hero 大盲位,55 10bb stack call EP 5bb shove>A9s。
UTG+1 TJo 13bb shove,take down。换桌,UTG 33,15bb,看到大小盲均... 阅读全帖 |
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k****w 发帖数: 3753 | 12 3BB也要bunker,很多ladder的t, 3bb不堵口,被我直接带走
唯一失利的两次是和svncheckout打,他是3bb(2 reactor),也是造bunker,拉农民
不过我practice都很随意,所以timing off了10多,20多秒,而且我没想到他2
reactor,出了太多xx,不然也很难说。 |
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h*******s 发帖数: 3932 | 14 Weak? Strong? Or hard to say? What kind of hand do you think he has? (mid
pair, top pair, nuts, etc.)? (assuming reasonably deep and similar stack in
all examples)
1. You raised preflop with position. he called. Then he bet the flop first.
2. preflop all folded around. You (small blind) called, then he (big blind)
raised to more than 3BB.
3. preflop, someone raised to 3BB, he (small blind) called. big blind has
yet to act.
4. He bet the flop, you called. Then he went allin at turn.
Does the game |
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t*********d 发帖数: 3398 | 15 昨夜先赢600, 后输1400, nnd, 几首关键牌如下 (5/10 NL):
1 和一个特别loose什么牌都bluff bet at flop的玩家, 我pocket Ace,he raise
3bb,I call;flop KQ6,rainbow, he bet $70, 我200刀all in; he called and
showed KQ;
2. pocket JJ; bet 3bb; some guy called; flop AQJ raiwbown; he bet 5bb; I
shove wih $300; he called; he showed pocket AA
3. Lost twice to a donkey player (he call every hand as long as he has any
pair; he lost all soon afterwards). For both hands, I have dominant cards
over him (AQ vs 9Q; AK vs. JK). At both flop, I have |
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l**********t 发帖数: 269 | 16 小对现在是我的major leak 来的。有时候扔不掉牌。 还在努力的练习。
我打NL25。 凡事按最简单不头痛的打法走。
preflop
22--99 有人raise, 对方short stack. 跟到3bb. 对方full stack. 跟到4bb. 每
加一个跟进的人,可以放宽1bb.
22--99 没人raise. just call at all position except button. Raise 3bb on
button.
1010. 看心情。
JJ. major leak. very aggressive preflop. will try to buy the blinds.
flop
22-1010. hit set, aggressive in most cases will slow play on safe board.
usually try to get all in. don't hit set, try to check down. run as soon
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q****8 发帖数: 3281 | 17 我在一桌$0.25/0.5NL 6MAX,这桌很紧,我牌也不好,很少看牌,无聊的很,就从BUTTON开
始RAISE 3BB,全收盲注,CO继续3BB,全收盲注,到第四次我在UTG这样,终于遇到抵抗,
BUTTON RE-RAISE $5.50,我知道他是看不惯我而已,不至于是AA,KK这样,但牌应该还可
以,我是Kh 8h,也还可以,就RE-RAISE到$15,他马上ALL-IN,我想了下还是CALL,就算是AQ
,我也有40%胜率. 翻出来他是K 10,被DOMINATE,最糟的结果.
我在想如果我当时直接RAISE ALL-IN,他会不会CALL,不过他已经PISSED OFF了,估计也
会CALL. 如果当时我CALL他PREFLOP,FLOP三张小牌,我肯定先BET探底,他已经GET MAD了
,估计来个大RAISE,这时我肯定不会ALL-IN了,他A HIGH还是很可能的,所以我肯定FOLD了. 这牌好像怎么也拿不下来. |
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t*********d 发帖数: 3398 | 18 在3/6 NL的桌子上, 现在基本都是熟面孔, 每次进一桌, 估计2/3都是被我做过
notes的, 所以也估计2/3也都做过我的notes。几个short stack的, 我每次一bet
3bb in early position, 他们在后面动不动就all in, 晕。 估计都知道我bet range非常广, 不愿意我和我玩post flop, 然后我的小对,AJ, AT, 小联牌还真不敢call 他们, 只好fold。我经常在UTG用小同花联牌raise 3bb, 吓唬人, sb+bb 9块钱, 不抢白不抢。
不过后来也逮了他们几个。 特意控制了一下, 拿了AK才bet, 几个老面孔又在SB/BB的位置all in, 被我抓了几个AQ。 |
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y********n 发帖数: 2063 | 19 pretty normal.
SB vs BB. I am sb, have aqo. I limp, BB raise to 3.5bb, I reraise to 10bb.
BB(40BB) allin, I call. he has q8o
same guy, he is button, I am sb.
He raises to 3bb on button, I(57o) reraise to 10bb(, 40bb altogether for me)
, He shoves allin. I know I am behind, but can not behind too much. Though a
while, and I call. He has a4o.
range非常广, 不愿意我和我玩post flop, 然后我的小对,AJ, AT, 小联牌还真不敢
call 他们, 只好fold。我经常在UTG用小同花联牌raise 3bb, 吓唬人, sb+bb 9块
钱, 不抢白不抢。
的位置all in, 被我抓了几个AQ。 |
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W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 20 indeed crazy loose. If you are swing 10 + buy ins. ain't you swinging from
+3bb/100hand to -3bb/100hand? are you up or down over all? lol probably
can't say until you got 100k hand under the belt. |
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W********m 发帖数: 7793 | 21 exactly the point. You limp call raise make your hands face up and you have
no fold equity. open raise and play Axs aggressively in position is much
better.. if you limp fold you are wasting a lot of blinds, since it is very
common someone raise at CO or button and their hand might not even be that
good. The dead money in the pot easily can make the difference of +3bb/100
hand and -3bb/100 hand
about
that |
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t*********d 发帖数: 3398 | 22 可怜啊
This morning I bet 3bb at button with TT, SB raised to 10bb, I 4bet to 40 bb
, SB 5bet all in,I called。 TT vs. AK, 被他单张A在river来了个flush,和你差
不多。
之前KK UTG bet 3bb, MP raised to 13bb and I called, flop Qd8d3, MP all in
and I called. He had AA.
NND, 最近大家都背。 |
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t*********d 发帖数: 3398 | 23 NL100 Rush poker
昨晚9Ts是我的幸运牌, 赢了一次AK, 一次KK
1. Stack 80BB, I was UTG 9dTd bet 3bb, MP 3bet to 10BB, I called. Heads up. Flop Ah9h3h, MP bet 5bb and I called. Turn blank, MP checked and I checked, river 9c, MP bet 10bb and I raised to 20BB. MP called and showed AKo.
2. Stack 100BB, I was UTG 9dTd bet 3bb, UTG+1 raised to 8bb, I called. Heads Up. Flop 3d9cQd, I checked and UTG+1 bet pot size 18bb, I called. Turn Ts, I checked, UTG+1 bet 40bb, I shoved with rest 74BB, UTG+1 called with his rest 50BB |
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t*********d 发帖数: 3398 | 24 1. UTG+1 bet 3bb, I was MP and called with KhJh, MP+1 called. Flop QhTh3h, UTG+1 bet pot size 10BB and I called. Turn 7h, UTG+1 checked and I checked. River blank, UTG+1 bet 30BB and I called after using time bank. UTG+1 showed AhAd
2. UTG bet 3bb, MP called, I had JJ at big blands and called. Flop rainbow QJ3, I checked, UTG bet 10 BB, MP folded and I called. Turn blank, I checked and UTG checked. River A, I bet 15 bb and UTG raised to 48BB, I called
UTG showed AA.
第一把实在不该call, 第二把还行吧。
还有一把fol |
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a*****h 发帖数: 2182 | 25 很久没有在ftp打了,前段时间打得少,且都在PS,昨天一查,ftp白送5刀,再加上还有
500刀bonus,第一次试水rush
rush NL50,打了2个半小时,感觉有些明显水平高于这个level的人在里面打,太tight
不容易beat这个game,似乎网上流行的小球派比较适合。
基本打法,AA KK EP either limp or raise big, 8-10bb,limp可以找到机会rr,rai
se big flop之后好打了,基本100bb都可以handle
小对,suited connector,基本open都要小raise 2-3bb,一个偷盲,被rr之后看情况是
否跟
记得的几把牌,除了最后一把,有效stack基本都是100bb 或者以下
第一把记得的是个bb,kk ep raise 8bb, 中位call,it 40bb,flop J 10 3,我bet 10
bb,villain rr all in 我call,AJ,turn blank river J
第二把我sb open raise 3bb, bb rr 9,想了想,觉得bb没有什么,rr 27bb, |
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t*********d 发帖数: 3398 | 26 抓bluff是个比较头痛的问题。 我的两手牌共参考。
1. Stack 50bb vs 50bb.
I had AA at button. Everyone folded to me. I opened raise 3bb. SB folded,BB
raised to 9bb and I flat called. Flop 934 rainbow, BB bet 12bb and I called.
Turn 2, no flush draw, BB checked and I pushed 28BB. He called. He showed
96o. River 5. I was bad beat by his straight.
2. Stack 50bb vs 50 bb vs 50bb
I was UTG with QQ and opened 3bb, UTG+1 called,big blinds raised to 9bb. I
and UTG+1 both called. Flop KT2 rainbow, BB bet 13bb, I folded, UTG+1 r |
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t*********d 发帖数: 3398 | 27 个人风格吧
我UTG都是3bb, small pair, sc, monster,这样不让对手read。UTG open raise的话, 后面的人如果有Position awareness, 没有好牌的话, 一般跟的不多。所以我现在有small pocket pair, UTG的位置我会bet 3bb去偷blinds, 在MP的位置我反而fold。
AA/KK的牌, 最希望的局面是有人3bet, 自己再flat or 4 bet, open raise 太多, 容易吓跑人。
另外, 这把如果是head up, 我flop就check raise测试对手, 三个人的话, 我小心一点没错。
AA/KK只在preflop是Monster, 一旦看了flop, top pair, over pair都不是大牌,尤其是multi-way的情况下。
SB/
it
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n******1 发帖数: 4742 | 28 TT cutoff utg3bb (short stacker15bb) 我3bet到15bb button allin40bb ..
我shove?还是fold
55 sb button 3bb short stacker 20bb 我是shove 还是call 还是fold
我call了,flop T77 我ck button ck turn3 我bet pot button call river k 我应该
怎么办
KJ button open 3bb sb call flop KQ8r sb ck call turn 9 sb ck 我应该继续bet
还是ck pot control? |
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z****n 发帖数: 1514 | 29 结果是13BB/100hand. 最后有好几个bad beat,要不还要更高。
有一手牌我也许weak了,
我raise 3BB with pocket pair 5s, then BB calls.
Flop is 10 10 10, then BB checks, I bet 3BB again, BB calls.
Turn 4, then BB checks, I bet 1/2 pot, BB call again.
River 8, then BB bet 1 pot(which put me all in), I fold.
Should I call here? I guess BB only has a A or K here, but I also hesitate BB hits pair of 8. |
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s****i 发帖数: 30 | 30 wow, that's really cool..
prize pool
it extremely carefully and finally it pays off. Also I had no distraction
this time. Last weekend, my mind went off to playing badminton. With 2X
average chips and the chip lea
quite a few 3BB bet (get re-raise from SB/BB). Once I had KJs and bet 2.5BB(
125K. 6-handed table all way down) and the SB 2X. I have 4X of his chip(he
is one of the short-stack)
keep the hand history and I can review my play.
, 3BB and none called. Late stage(60 or less ppl left). I |
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p*******p 发帖数: 13670 | 31 What is your best move for following hands
1. NL100, me 108BB, villian is 9/9, had me covered
fold to villian (mp5) raise to 3bb, I called at SB with 7c7h, BB fold
flop 6d3d6h (pot 7bb), I check villian bet 4.5BB, I check-raise to 15BB,
villian called
turn 2s (pot 37bb), I bet 23 BB, villian called
river Jh (pot 83 bb)
what he has? what's your best move for this hand?
2. NL100, me 103bb, v1 53bb no history, v2 70bb 22/7
1. fold to utg+2, raise to 3bb, v2 called, I called with AQo at BB (probably... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********k 发帖数: 1989 | 32 No information on the opponents (HM is not on, nor I have any history)
RUSH NL50, Hand one,
Preflop, MP 2BB and me/BB call w/ ATo
Flop, Q8J rainbow; MP 2BB and I call
Tturn 9 (Flush draw); I Overbet and MP fold
RUSH NL50, Hand Two
Preflop, UTG 3BB, MP/Me call with QQ and so does BB
Flop 25Q with FD, check to MP/Me, I bet 1/2 pot; all fold
Both hands, I hit strong. SHould I slow play for more value?
BTW, what is the way to play QQ if there is one 3BB raise from EP/MP?!
Once, I 3X from SB and MP a... 阅读全帖 |
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s*********k 发帖数: 1989 | 33 Thanks.
The other times, I was at BB with QQ and 3X on 3BB from MP (with KK). MP
push allin. I have already put 1/3 of stack there (so it is
$10$ for $30). I surely does not like the allin (highly likely I was
behind), still tank and call in the last second. Sigh.
That is the reason, I flat call 3BB from EP with QQ at MP here.
The first hand, I believe the opponent has 33/44 alike. If he has
two high cards (most likely hit already or with NSD with AK).
The second hand, UTG has small pair also. B... 阅读全帖 |
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L****n 发帖数: 490 | 34 Assuming 3bb/100 hands, it takes around 670,000 hands. If he plays 16 tables
, around 1280 hands/hour.
Still would him take 523 hours. I don't even think he can achieve 3bb/100
hands without cheating. |
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s*****s 发帖数: 1130 | 35 我現在是~22000 hand, AA winning ~$180, which is about right, around 3bb/100.
Thanks.
3bb/100hand winner
Anything can happen with this many hands |
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f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 36 呵呵,扑克发展到今天,早就不数学那么学究了。
给你的解释实际上是综合若干pros在cardplayer上写的,其实说起来很简单,就是用最
小的代价获得最佳效果。
扑克现在很aggressive,尤其是tournament,这些人几乎多数时间都在不停raise,偷
blinds,或者利用image/position对对方施加压力,但总有被别人反击的时候,如果每
次都是3BB的话,实际上累积损失比较大,虽然看似只是一把0.5-0.8BB的区别,但要知
道,倒最残酷的接近中盘阶段,很多人都是在10-20BB挣扎,考虑是否shove,这0.8BB
加起来还是可观的。
换句话说,如果2.2或者2.5BB就能达到的同样效果,为什么要3BB呢? |
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d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 37 前言:
哥一直跟朋友讲,打牌绝对不能无脑模式化,要有质疑精神,钻研精神。可是哥自己始
终还是无法坚决贯彻。浪费了真金白银买来的hm2的大好资源。每天貌似打很多手牌,
但是打过算过,也不复盘总结,这样下去真的是白白浪费中年的大好时光。
哥最终还是下定决心,牺牲tourney被knockout之后打dota的时间,每天花个半小时看
看复盘、写写扑克日记。
背景介绍:
哥就是屌丝中的战斗机...
2010年6月充值,从online micro stake 6-max cash game和freeroll、micro buy-
in tournament开始打起,享受着上上下下的快感,前后投入总额270刀,逐步升级,
2013年之前主打50NL 6-max cash game + 3刀至11刀买入级别的tourney,盈利不错
。2013年头2个月running super good,重心逐步转到tourney,对tourney strategy、
心理控制以及资金管理方面有一点点心得(虽然skill set还属中下游,每天还在不停的
犯错)。哥完全依靠数据打牌。最喜欢说的两句话,it dep... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 38 换了个modem,网络终于正常。可又是悲摧的一天,心态还算好,几把牌可能有问题。
1 6k 33
2 4k 5.5 + 5.5 + 5.5
3 5k 11
4 5k 60 + 60
5 6.5k 33
6 freeroll
7 25k 11
8 35k 60
9 35k 33
1) AJo 20bb 3bet shove EP 2bb open, lost to qq, knockout
2) EP 5bb open, hero reraise to 11bb with AA, LP pro cold shove 110bb, EP
allin call, hero allin call, pro kk, EP TT, flop KTx, pro win, rebuy. 22
limp, flop 245r, set over set lost to the same TT guy, rebuy, 15bb aqo sb
pot squeeze, CO limp/call, flop kjxr, hero cbet pot size as... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 39 1 750 gtd 11
2 750 gtd 3.3 + 3.3 $7.63
3 1.5k gtd 11 $219.42
4 750 gtd 11+11+11 BUBBLED
5 3.5k gtd 11+10+10
6 3.5k gtd 11
7 1k gtd 1.1+1+2+2+1
-110.7 227.05 +117.6
1 AJo 20bb 3bet shove EP pro 2.4x open < QQ, knockout
2 AKs UTG+1 6bb 3bet, MP cold call, other fold. 7d3dAc 7s 8d , flop check,
check, turn check/villain ½ pot/hero 3x shove/villain call with Ad2d,
noted. Re-buy. ITM, KQo EP 14bb open shove<10bb AQo, cri... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 40 上篇提到,最后14人的样子,哥坐拥50个bb,且对桌子情况有个大致的了解,2个aggro
被哥玩残(只剩10到20bb,开始ABC),2个紧b被哥锁定,还有哥右手第二家(姑且称
其小黑哥吧),不久前用99接了哥左手第一家(欧洲大叔)的3bet shove,输给AA,自
己给cripple了,哥开始觉得离第一名有点近,唯一需要注意的是哥左手第一家(欧洲
大叔),他刚上桌的时候是个短筹,一手stop and go,逼走了哥A5o的小盲steal(特
此修改,应该是btn steal lol)。之
后,用AA从小黑哥身上double up。再之后大盲位KK,3bet aggro button steal,在
wet flop上,cbet/snap shove aggro的tp的snap raise,button 考虑了足足10分钟,
一个call,输到只剩2bb,不久出局。所以,现在欧洲大叔大概40个bb的样子(不得不
说,他确实run得跟哥一样好lol),作为桌上的2nd chips leader,风格solid,于是
来到了这把牌。
hand 1:
hero on sb with KdJ... 阅读全帖 |
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w***w 发帖数: 6301 | 41 你这个帖子里有很多point值得思考。
我想了很久,我觉得我的point也有理由,不过我打online时间很短,限于我打的时间
和水平不够,也有可能我对online的理解达不到那个层次。
说一下我的point。
首先在这个例子中我说的特意降低bet size,是指的在YYx这样的flop上,我打的size
低于top straight的牌力。而你说的bet size应该打的大,并不是特指这种情况。在
XYZ这样的正常flop上,(如果我有top straight)我在turn和river上也会打的很大。
scripps 在另一帖中说,在这种YYx这种flop上,对方没有牌,你很难赢到什么钱。我
加一句,如果双方都有牌,(triple以上)不管你打得多小,最终pot都会搞得很大。
因为这种flop牌力是跳升的,要不就没,要不就很大。而在XYZ这种flop上,你拿TPTK
,对方拿TPNK,你不打的大,对方未必会打。所以在正常flop上,有好牌往大打是对的
。但在YYx的flop上,打的小不会miss对方的two pair,同时能减小nuts对你的伤害,
也不会miss中间的triple和... 阅读全帖 |
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e********9 发帖数: 444 | 42 这两天接触的SB打法
deep stack时,前面两个3BB bet call,
一个SB用A2 all in,AK接,来2,干掉AK
类似情况,我的AK刚被A2干掉
我99 3BB 60,33 3 bet 210, AQ 210, 一个SB 55 all in (1500左右)
我的99 被吓跑,另外两个call,55大获全胜
99 在上面那样的情况我没办法 去call
AK我没办法退缩,但是SB就是赢
如果是你,你有更好的做法吗?fold AK? |
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z******n 发帖数: 8851 | 43 你位置描述的把我搞晕了,SB右手边第二位不是button右手边你吗?大概你指BB左手边
第二位吧,用UTG+1更容易懂。
前边$100 all in后, 我会直接push,另外你的3BB raise也少了点吧,在赌场只要放了
一个BB,全桌都会call 3BB,哈哈。。。 |
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d*****0 发帖数: 1500 | 44 木哈哈哈 原来这贴已经讨论翻天了哇
可惜 xsiner 大牛已经把所有人定义为low stake amateur,不屑参与讨论了,希望他
在high stake里继续赢钱哇
明确回答shuey的问题
到底open多少size,取决于太多因素,所以不存在说open的小或者大或者干脆limp就是
绝对错误。
按照以前版上大牛黎叔的话说,别人觉得你open shove AA不make sense,但是你知道
某人就是会call你,那这个open shove就是maximize value!
为什么online poker绝大多数table上都是3bb左右open,而live 1/2,2/5里“标准”
open是5到7bb?
给你一个标准答案,纳什均衡!
由起始买入筹码的范围,对手的整体水平,牌风,位置等因素,决定了你用什么范围
open,以及open多大的size,最终这个“公认”的策略是在你所特定的游戏中接近于最
优的。而这个策略本身不是哪个牛人算出来的,而是无数玩家,不论水平高低,年龄老
幼,无数次在相同牌桌上反复实践,互相参照(影响),慢慢形成的。是一个平衡值。
意思是,在其他设定“正... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****c 发帖数: 25 | 45 用纳什均衡来分析open raise size,可谓妙论也。加个蛇足吧,其实open的size也是
不是处于均衡而一成不变的。一方面当然是table dynamic(比如新来一个calling
station),另一方面是平衡和迷惑对手。(如果只是中短筹码,其实拿到强牌,算算怎
样把SPR打下来就行了。主要讨论下深筹码。)
首先,一个人的习惯是容易被观察的。比如一个紧手,投机牌喜欢3bb-4bb而大牌喜欢
用5bb-8bb open raise。好,那跟他玩了一段时间之后,每次他做6bb+的raise, 我就
给他90%的大牌比率和10%投机牌比率,这对于之后narrow他的range非常有用。从反方
面看,自己做open raise的时候,就应该注意平衡,在大raise里面也要加入投机牌。
其次,是一个EV的问题,在你的牌力领先的时候,你总是希望对方多支付一点。可在深
筹码的游戏里面,即使你手持AA,你又有多大把握在翻牌后能继续领先呢?是的,概率
告诉我们,AA被打败机会不会超过20%,但一旦被打败而你将很难放弃,最终往往要支
付一个大的彩池给对方。所以即使手持AA做一个大的open... 阅读全帖 |
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Y*H 发帖数: 1582 | 46 在群殴大赛前写个terran攻略,希望能对T user有帮助.
T前期发展的要点是在第一时间出打针mm,和在最合适的时候造3bb,并保证mm不过多牺牲.
1. 建筑顺序
速mm流程: 正常2bb发展,侦查,bs,1bb好了马上造1个marine,不停scv,根据地势和被
rush的可能性适出2mm 或者2mm+bunker:
是否出bunker视地形和对方是否有9d而定,一般来说:
a.如果你只可能被一家近点P rush,对方无9d,不用bunker.
b.可能被近点9d rush,近点无对方T,P,不用bunker.
c.如果盟友z 9d且离你家不远,非极限情况不用bunker.
d.如果近点有对方T,己方无9d,无近点P,最好bunker.
e.其它情况下看局势而定.
速mm的要点是gas ba一起放, 这样ba好了的gas正好够升stim和造2 medic. 一般情况下
可以用第二个bb的scv造gas,同时拉一个scv ba, 停农, 同时出2个marine. 这时人口应
该是21/26左右.根据形势判断补农民, bs, mm的顺序和决定是否提前放下3bb:
a.如果己方有近点 |
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d**********t 发帖数: 20415 | 47 成形时间几乎一样,如果前期z狗爆多了可能还是T快了,T的这个战术上来3bb堵口直接
下分矿的,虽然3bb,但是枪兵只出5个
整个这个战术的精髓就是Z一辈子没有3矿~~ |
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h*****0 发帖数: 4889 | 48 侦察到你3bb堵口二矿,Z就疯补农民三矿了……
你3BB二矿经济不如2BB二矿好。 |
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