p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 1 I was at cutoff with 153BB, dealt pocket Ace (nice, or wait, is it gonna be
another lost whole stack makes me freak out and broke my computer screen
hand?)
mp2 limp in, and I raised to 4.5BB, fold to SB, he raised to 11BB
hmmm, a small 4bet against a limper and my raise, what could he have?
I thought for 4bet to 40BB, but I actually called
flop 5T3 rainbow, good flop (at least I feel it's good, it probably missed
most of his range) pot 23.5BB
sb bets 19BB, pretty stand cbet, I called, I was thin | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 2 you know what i do these days?
over re-shove pre-flop, simple.
be
just
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: I was at cutoff with 153BB, dealt pocket Ace (nice, or wait, is it gonna be
: another lost whole stack makes me freak out and broke my computer screen
: hand?)
: mp2 limp in, and I raised to 4.5BB, fold to SB, he raised to 11BB
: hmmm, a small 4bet against a limper and my raise, what could he have?
: I thought for 4bet to 40BB, but I actually called
: flop 5T3 rainbow, good flop (at least I feel it's good, it probably missed
: most of his range) pot 23.5BB
: sb bets 19BB, pretty stand cbet, I called, I was thin
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 3 If you 4 bets to 40bb then your after flop decision will be much easier.
I like 4 bets all in even better. he has AK QQ KK, he will call your reshove anyway. | p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 4 well,i knew a stand play should be 4bet, but as played, will you fold at
turn?
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: you know what i do these days?
: over re-shove pre-flop, simple.
:
: be
: just
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 5 hehe, but I have position, and if I 4bet, it's basically playing my hand
face up
reshove anyway.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: If you 4 bets to 40bb then your after flop decision will be much easier.
: I like 4 bets all in even better. he has AK QQ KK, he will call your reshove anyway.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 6 pocket As just don't play deep stack well. if you only have 100 bb maybe
you can flat. but with almost 200bb. you give them too good of implied odd
especially when you can't lay your hand down when beat. My money is on you
are beat here 75% of the times. and he has got KK 20% and 5% spewy bluffing
3 barrel on busted draws.
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: hehe, but I have position, and if I 4bet, it's basically playing my hand
: face up
:
: reshove anyway.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 7 you don't want to scar him away by 4 bets big or shove, then at least
miniraise to 22$ and make him fell like you are restealling from button. At
least you put enough $$ in with your pocket As preflop and also can induce a
over shove from him maybe .
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: hehe, but I have position, and if I 4bet, it's basically playing my hand
: face up
:
: reshove anyway.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 8 i don't care, haha, i want to:
1) get all my $ in when i'm in the best shape (pre-flop);
2) i only need him to call x% time to make good for 1 single pair hand;
3) other y% times, collect small pot right away;
4) not to play deep post flop.
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: well,i knew a stand play should be 4bet, but as played, will you fold at
: turn?
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 9 I agree your arguement is alright as long as ppl play ABC poker
but I found out a out of player at NL100 play very different ABC poker
actually none of your guess is right here...
you
bluffing
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: pocket As just don't play deep stack well. if you only have 100 bb maybe
: you can flat. but with almost 200bb. you give them too good of implied odd
: especially when you can't lay your hand down when beat. My money is on you
: are beat here 75% of the times. and he has got KK 20% and 5% spewy bluffing
: 3 barrel on busted draws.
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 10 post flop is much more fun then pre flop allin...
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: i don't care, haha, i want to:
: 1) get all my $ in when i'm in the best shape (pre-flop);
: 2) i only need him to call x% time to make good for 1 single pair hand;
: 3) other y% times, collect small pot right away;
: 4) not to play deep post flop.
| | | L****n
发帖数: 490 | 11 He probably has AA himself, or AK, KK. Or total air by a maniac.
call for sure. QQ is unlikely by his preflop aciton | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 12 so you win the hand. My question is whether you really think this is a
profitable way of playing. Unless you have special notes on a player.
calling down 150 bb with an over pair. To me this is not profitable way to
play no matter what level of poker it is unless you have a note on this
specific player.
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: I agree your arguement is alright as long as ppl play ABC poker
: but I found out a out of player at NL100 play very different ABC poker
: actually none of your guess is right here...
:
: you
: bluffing
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 13 why is QQ unlikely? i will play exactly like this if i have got QQ .. maybe slightly more bets on turn
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
: He probably has AA himself, or AK, KK. Or total air by a maniac.
: call for sure. QQ is unlikely by his preflop aciton
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 14 maybe you can look at your HM and see all the over pair you have calling
down 3 barrel until all in and what is the final profit. I think data can
tell us the most.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: so you win the hand. My question is whether you really think this is a
: profitable way of playing. Unless you have special notes on a player.
: calling down 150 bb with an over pair. To me this is not profitable way to
: play no matter what level of poker it is unless you have a note on this
: specific player.
| n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 15 46,57? 哈哈哈
be
just
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: I was at cutoff with 153BB, dealt pocket Ace (nice, or wait, is it gonna be
: another lost whole stack makes me freak out and broke my computer screen
: hand?)
: mp2 limp in, and I raised to 4.5BB, fold to SB, he raised to 11BB
: hmmm, a small 4bet against a limper and my raise, what could he have?
: I thought for 4bet to 40BB, but I actually called
: flop 5T3 rainbow, good flop (at least I feel it's good, it probably missed
: most of his range) pot 23.5BB
: sb bets 19BB, pretty stand cbet, I called, I was thin
| L****n
发帖数: 490 | 16
maybe slightly more bets on turn
ppl usually don't limp QQ in middle position, and reraise preflop out of
position and charge so aggressively with it at flop. It's a donkey play
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: why is QQ unlikely? i will play exactly like this if i have got QQ .. maybe slightly more bets on turn
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 17 he is sb. not MP.
on a side note. I have seen people limp reraise MP with QQ before and limp call with QQ too. :D but more often it is a small pair or AK
【在 L****n 的大作中提到】
:
: maybe slightly more bets on turn
: ppl usually don't limp QQ in middle position, and reraise preflop out of
: position and charge so aggressively with it at flop. It's a donkey play
| L****n
发帖数: 490 | 18 my bad, in this case QQ does make sense | p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 19 ok, if you have QQ or TT (not very likely) I would say that play makes sense
55 or 33 is not likely to 3bet pre, and flop is very rag.
my instincts is he is bluffing 50% of time that's why after using my time
bank
i eveutually called the river bet,
and he has 58o
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: so you win the hand. My question is whether you really think this is a
: profitable way of playing. Unless you have special notes on a player.
: calling down 150 bb with an over pair. To me this is not profitable way to
: play no matter what level of poker it is unless you have a note on this
: specific player.
| t*****s
发帖数: 1240 | 20 my 2 cents.
if sb has a big hand, he is likley to cold call your 3bet to trap the limper.
the way he 4bet your isolation of the limper widens his range. a lot of ppl
start to re-isolate nowadays with a wide range of hands.
you totally under-represent your hand on the flop and turn. The turn Q is a
good double barrel card for him against your "seemly weak" range, i.e.,
top pair no kicker, mid pair, etc. His smallish bet size may also be a tell
of
double barreling.
on the river, it is a tough deci
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: I was at cutoff with 153BB, dealt pocket Ace (nice, or wait, is it gonna be
: another lost whole stack makes me freak out and broke my computer screen
: hand?)
: mp2 limp in, and I raised to 4.5BB, fold to SB, he raised to 11BB
: hmmm, a small 4bet against a limper and my raise, what could he have?
: I thought for 4bet to 40BB, but I actually called
: flop 5T3 rainbow, good flop (at least I feel it's good, it probably missed
: most of his range) pot 23.5BB
: sb bets 19BB, pretty stand cbet, I called, I was thin
| | | p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 21 yah,the most suspicious move his small turn bet,
and if some1 really flop a set, they usually check turn, to make sure they
will get called on river since I didn't show any strength.
his river all-in really looks like he is trying to push me off the hand, and
I am a station,lol
limper.
ppl
a
tell
i
【在 t*****s 的大作中提到】
: my 2 cents.
: if sb has a big hand, he is likley to cold call your 3bet to trap the limper.
: the way he 4bet your isolation of the limper widens his range. a lot of ppl
: start to re-isolate nowadays with a wide range of hands.
: you totally under-represent your hand on the flop and turn. The turn Q is a
: good double barrel card for him against your "seemly weak" range, i.e.,
: top pair no kicker, mid pair, etc. His smallish bet size may also be a tell
: of
: double barreling.
: on the river, it is a tough deci
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 22 haha, you are so smart, 58o actually, very good guessing
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 46,57? 哈哈哈
:
: be
: just
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 23 problem is I never showed any strength, if I did raise flop and he called,
then bet turn, shove river, I will fold at turn probably
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: maybe you can look at your HM and see all the over pair you have calling
: down 3 barrel until all in and what is the final profit. I think data can
: tell us the most.
| n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 24 这哥们横下一条心bluff到底啊 turn bet 被call 以后 river 没hit到只能check fold
了啊。。 呵呵
前两个street没什么错，装大对。。不过我以为他肯定赢你了呢 呵呵
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: haha, you are so smart, 58o actually, very good guessing
| j**y
发帖数: 7014 | 25 you showed your strength by calling his reraise preflop
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: problem is I never showed any strength, if I did raise flop and he called,
: then bet turn, shove river, I will fold at turn probably
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 26 i caught a lot of these kind of bluffs now, hehe, people insanely aggresive
fold
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 这哥们横下一条心bluff到底啊 turn bet 被call 以后 river 没hit到只能check fold
: 了啊。。 呵呵
: 前两个street没什么错，装大对。。不过我以为他肯定赢你了呢 呵呵
| n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 27 嗯，good call 要是我我也会call 输就输了。。
不过你turn 来了Q还call 了他的bet 你表现的还挺强的。。
那个哥们疯了 哈哈 你赚了～
aggresive
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: i caught a lot of these kind of bluffs now, hehe, people insanely aggresive
:
: fold
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 28 I am very curious whether this sort of river calls have +EV value. One hand
or two sometimes can mislead us. Is there a function in HM that can check
the overall profit on all the all in river you called with top pair or
overpair?
I used to call a lot of river big bets (more than pot size) at river when I
feel that things do not add up. I caught some big bluffs but lost more big
pots. In the end, I found this is probably my biggest leak.
If you think he is stealing preflop, then i would be even
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: i caught a lot of these kind of bluffs now, hehe, people insanely aggresive
:
: fold
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 29 he could have JJ KK AK even AQ (assuming his 3bet is legit) as well, I can't
automatically assume he has qq yah, otherwise it's too weak
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，good call 要是我我也会call 输就输了。。
: 不过你turn 来了Q还call 了他的bet 你表现的还挺强的。。
: 那个哥们疯了 哈哈 你赚了～
:
: aggresive
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 30 it's just he acts too strong, that makes me feel very suspicious, usually
people will slow down a bit if they do have nuts
hand
I
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I am very curious whether this sort of river calls have +EV value. One hand
: or two sometimes can mislead us. Is there a function in HM that can check
: the overall profit on all the all in river you called with top pair or
: overpair?
: I used to call a lot of river big bets (more than pot size) at river when I
: feel that things do not add up. I caught some big bluffs but lost more big
: pots. In the end, I found this is probably my biggest leak.
: If you think he is stealing preflop, then i would be even
| | | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 31 He acted strong. I wouldn't say it is too strong. river is only a 2/3 pot
push.
poker is all about EV. At this spot where someone 3 barreled all in and you
have only over pair or top pair. what is the % of hands that you were beat?
Without a specific read, my original guess was 75% time that you were beat.
Most poeple think you are beat. My guess is that you think you were beat
more often than not as well. So i would say it is >60% that you were beat.
That is our feeling of the % not the sa
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: it's just he acts too strong, that makes me feel very suspicious, usually
: people will slow down a bit if they do have nuts
:
: hand
: I
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 32 i have played around 100k hand now, right now my data shows +EV
for this specific situation, I don't think he has me beaten by 60%,
and even he has me beatedn by 60%, pot odds justify the river call
you
beat?
beat.
greater
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: He acted strong. I wouldn't say it is too strong. river is only a 2/3 pot
: push.
: poker is all about EV. At this spot where someone 3 barreled all in and you
: have only over pair or top pair. what is the % of hands that you were beat?
: Without a specific read, my original guess was 75% time that you were beat.
: Most poeple think you are beat. My guess is that you think you were beat
: more often than not as well. So i would say it is >60% that you were beat.
: That is our feeling of the % not the sa
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 33 overall data 看不出来的。 need to see the data for this specific situation.
I am very curious to know.
River is out. 2/3 pot river. Either you are beat or you are not beat if
your read is on the ball. I don't think the pot odds matters here.
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: i have played around 100k hand now, right now my data shows +EV
: for this specific situation, I don't think he has me beaten by 60%,
: and even he has me beatedn by 60%, pot odds justify the river call
:
: you
: beat?
: beat.
:
: greater
| t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 34 抓bluff是个比较头痛的问题。 我的两手牌共参考。
1. Stack 50bb vs 50bb.
I had AA at button. Everyone folded to me. I opened raise 3bb. SB folded,BB
raised to 9bb and I flat called. Flop 934 rainbow, BB bet 12bb and I called.
Turn 2, no flush draw, BB checked and I pushed 28BB. He called. He showed
96o. River 5. I was bad beat by his straight.
2. Stack 50bb vs 50 bb vs 50bb
I was UTG with QQ and opened 3bb, UTG+1 called,big blinds raised to 9bb. I
and UTG+1 both called. Flop KT2 rainbow, BB bet 13bb, I folded, UTG+1 r | t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 35 我现在觉得拿AA/KK/AK 3bet的都好办， 怕就怕这种拿着烂牌来raise你的， 因为你对
他的range一点概念都没有。适当增加4bet是一个解决方案。
BB
called.
raised
【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 抓bluff是个比较头痛的问题。 我的两手牌共参考。
: 1. Stack 50bb vs 50bb.
: I had AA at button. Everyone folded to me. I opened raise 3bb. SB folded,BB
: raised to 9bb and I flat called. Flop 934 rainbow, BB bet 12bb and I called.
: Turn 2, no flush draw, BB checked and I pushed 28BB. He called. He showed
: 96o. River 5. I was bad beat by his straight.
: 2. Stack 50bb vs 50 bb vs 50bb
: I was UTG with QQ and opened 3bb, UTG+1 called,big blinds raised to 9bb. I
: and UTG+1 both called. Flop KT2 rainbow, BB bet 13bb, I folded, UTG+1 r
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 36 try my approach, over re-shove preflop, works like a charm (of course, until
they leave notes on you, haha).
as for raising with trash, i do that a lot in position. a hand from
yesterday:
CO raises to 3x (typical steal attempt), i flat him at BN with Jh9h (a good
hand to play post flop). with position, i can do a lot. and these days, flat
with position looks scary, haha.
flop: Qh7h3s, as expected, he c-bets 1/2 pot (smallish), i mini-raise him (
in line with my flat pre-flop to look like a stron
【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 我现在觉得拿AA/KK/AK 3bet的都好办， 怕就怕这种拿着烂牌来raise你的， 因为你对
: 他的range一点概念都没有。适当增加4bet是一个解决方案。
:
: BB
: called.
: raised
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 37 This guy plays terrible.. River check call 就行了 if he doesn't want to lay down the hand。 你也不会bet很大。怕吓跑
他。
until
good
flat
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: try my approach, over re-shove preflop, works like a charm (of course, until
: they leave notes on you, haha).
: as for raising with trash, i do that a lot in position. a hand from
: yesterday:
: CO raises to 3x (typical steal attempt), i flat him at BN with Jh9h (a good
: hand to play post flop). with position, i can do a lot. and these days, flat
: with position looks scary, haha.
: flop: Qh7h3s, as expected, he c-bets 1/2 pot (smallish), i mini-raise him (
: in line with my flat pre-flop to look like a stron
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 38 你的stack这么浅,preflop又3bet,这个闭着眼睛allin的,no brain call
BB
called.
raised
【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 抓bluff是个比较头痛的问题。 我的两手牌共参考。
: 1. Stack 50bb vs 50bb.
: I had AA at button. Everyone folded to me. I opened raise 3bb. SB folded,BB
: raised to 9bb and I flat called. Flop 934 rainbow, BB bet 12bb and I called.
: Turn 2, no flush draw, BB checked and I pushed 28BB. He called. He showed
: 96o. River 5. I was bad beat by his straight.
: 2. Stack 50bb vs 50 bb vs 50bb
: I was UTG with QQ and opened 3bb, UTG+1 called,big blinds raised to 9bb. I
: and UTG+1 both called. Flop KT2 rainbow, BB bet 13bb, I folded, UTG+1 r
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 39 要是我turn就不会bet
until
good
flat
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: try my approach, over re-shove preflop, works like a charm (of course, until
: they leave notes on you, haha).
: as for raising with trash, i do that a lot in position. a hand from
: yesterday:
: CO raises to 3x (typical steal attempt), i flat him at BN with Jh9h (a good
: hand to play post flop). with position, i can do a lot. and these days, flat
: with position looks scary, haha.
: flop: Qh7h3s, as expected, he c-bets 1/2 pot (smallish), i mini-raise him (
: in line with my flat pre-flop to look like a stron
| t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 40 大多数网站定义50bb为regular stack,不是那么浅。
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 你的stack这么浅,preflop又3bet,这个闭着眼睛allin的,no brain call
:
: BB
: called.
: raised
| | | p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 41 你flop pot已经20+bb了,你手里也就剩下40bb... 这个SPR=2, 属于非常浅了
【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 大多数网站定义50bb为regular stack,不是那么浅。
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 42 50bb 是很short. 3 bet 一个preflop , flop bet 后就已经commit了。 i use to
play 60X. it was too short for me. Now i play rebuy top off anything below 80bb
.
buy in short is easier to play, but not good to sharpen your plays. Deep stack poker is much more difficult. I remember i started play with 40X bb at the beginning. then i increase to 60X bb and was not doing well. Nowadays, I don't feel comfortable when I am shorter than 80 bb. But I don't play anything deeper than 160bb yet.. I don't feel i am | t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 43 习惯问题， 我在NL100如果开3桌， 就mini buyin， 如果单桌， 就100 bb buyin。
玩mini buyin我一般到了200 bb或者输光才退出，很少re-buy, 后期100到200之间就用
deep stack的技术， 开始玩杂牌， 玩bluff，伺机搞另外的deep stack。目前我在
NL100的记录大概是从45bb 到350bb吧。
80bb
Deep stack poker is much more difficult. I remember i started play with 40X
bb at the beginning. then i increase to 60X bb and was not doing well.
Nowadays, I don't feel comfortable when I am shorter than 80 bb. But I don'
t play anything deeper than 160bb yet.. I don't feel i am ready for that
deep.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 50bb 是很short. 3 bet 一个preflop , flop bet 后就已经commit了。 i use to
: play 60X. it was too short for me. Now i play rebuy top off anything below 80bb
: .
: buy in short is easier to play, but not good to sharpen your plays. Deep stack poker is much more difficult. I remember i started play with 40X bb at the beginning. then i increase to 60X bb and was not doing well. Nowadays, I don't feel comfortable when I am shorter than 80 bb. But I don't play anything deeper than 160bb yet.. I don't feel i am
| n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 44 when somebody want to bluff ,then they will bluff ...
no matter the board hehe
but if i were you ,i would raise turn to committing myself, coz i will not
fold AA on that board .. then i miss huge value for this hand ~ 5555
't
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: he could have JJ KK AK even AQ (assuming his 3bet is legit) as well, I can't
: automatically assume he has qq yah, otherwise it's too weak
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 45 no,I put him on bluff, so the key point is I have to let him fire
if I raise turn, I am sure he will fold
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: when somebody want to bluff ,then they will bluff ...
: no matter the board hehe
: but if i were you ,i would raise turn to committing myself, coz i will not
: fold AA on that board .. then i miss huge value for this hand ~ 5555
:
: 't
| n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 46 en good read ~
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: no,I put him on bluff, so the key point is I have to let him fire
: if I raise turn, I am sure he will fold
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 47 Same type of hand. sometimes it does not work out.
Yesterday. NL 25 rush.
UTG (stack fairly deep got me covered limp, i raise to 0.85$ EP with AKo,
SB call, UTG calls.
FLOP AQ2 rainbow,
SB check UTG Lead pot 2.85$, normally, i would raise here if heads up, but
sb has not reacted and the bet size is large enough to see whether sb got
something. the board is dry enough and not worry about draws. I hate to
raise here and SB calls and i know I am beat. SB fold.
turn 6 UTG pot again 5.9$, i have 1 | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 48 i like to shove on turn better.
you'll be committed if you call turn anyway.
i agree with your thinking process, but the problem is you're playing both
hands (yours and his) in your own way, sometimes we need to understand their
donkish ways too (and take notes), lol.
in
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Same type of hand. sometimes it does not work out.
: Yesterday. NL 25 rush.
: UTG (stack fairly deep got me covered limp, i raise to 0.85$ EP with AKo,
: SB call, UTG calls.
: FLOP AQ2 rainbow,
: SB check UTG Lead pot 2.85$, normally, i would raise here if heads up, but
: sb has not reacted and the bet size is large enough to see whether sb got
: something. the board is dry enough and not worry about draws. I hate to
: raise here and SB calls and i know I am beat. SB fold.
: turn 6 UTG pot again 5.9$, i have 1
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 49 Even donks knows to fold to turn shove with a middle pair i guess. Even if
he doesn't fold all the time, there is still some fold equity here. But i
think for sure he is firing 3rd barrel here with middle pair if he didn't
make 2 pair river. Because he knows he can't win on show down. Q9o...吐血。
their
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: i like to shove on turn better.
: you'll be committed if you call turn anyway.
: i agree with your thinking process, but the problem is you're playing both
: hands (yours and his) in your own way, sometimes we need to understand their
: donkish ways too (and take notes), lol.
:
: in
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 50 well, after you call the turn, you'd only have $9.1 left ($9.5 in already),
way passed committment threshold. you'll have no fold option on the river.
in such cases, i'd like to get my $ in earlier.
other situations like paired river could give you headaches too. if he's
stubborn with AT/AJ, no diff. waiting till river, your hand is not improving.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Even donks knows to fold to turn shove with a middle pair i guess. Even if
: he doesn't fold all the time, there is still some fold equity here. But i
: think for sure he is firing 3rd barrel here with middle pair if he didn't
: make 2 pair river. Because he knows he can't win on show down. Q9o...吐血。
:
: their
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