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x***e
发帖数: 844
1
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/hUE0TBfG7IM
Even in the initial stages of contact between European Christians and
Native Indian people the stage was set for ethnocentrism, and the
attitude towards the Indians was that of Christian superiority. The
Indians were read a proclamation in Spanish which they had no hope of
understanding, they had no hope of understanding the death sentence they
were being read, and it went something like this:
"We ask and require you to acknowledge the church as the ruler and
superior of the whole world and the high priest called pope and in his
name the king of Spain as lords of this land. If you submit we shall
receive you in all love and charity and shall leave you, your wives and
children and your lands free without servitude, but if you do not submit
we shall powerfully enter into your country and shall make war against
you, we shall take you and your wives and your children and shall make
slaves of them and we shall take away your goods and shall do you all
the harm and damage we can."
2000 years ago we were all tribal.
Then came the missionaries with their fucking bible.
1492 began the termination
The holocaust of our Indian nations
Yeah, with Christian love and a moral authority
They killed our medicine men and stole our country
I never claimed this shit was poetry
It's just the fucking lies of Christianity
You will pray to the lord and get down on your knees
Here's a cross for your back and the coughing disease
Though you helped us survive we will laugh while you bleed
Then deny what we did, write our own history
We will kidnap your children and cut off their hair
Silence their language and outlaw their prayers
Beat them blind until they believe
In the blood of Jesus Christ our king
Christians murdered Indians
Columbus murdered children and now we have a holiday
Still you want to deny your history
Look to the sky for your god to justify
As you commit cultural genocide
Christians came and the natives they did hang
13 at a time for Jesus and his gang
We are the ones you had to dehumanize
So your murder and greed could be justified
The belly of the church is full
With the blood of all those heathen fools
Who would not receive the gift of Christ?
So we burned them as a sacrifice
To our baby killing god above
To our mother church and all her love
We will steal their gods and subjugate
Those who don't believe we'll ahnilate
"The Spaniards made bets as to who would slit a man in two or cut of
his head with one blow. They tore babies from their mother's breast by
their feet and dashed their head against the rocks. They hanged Indians
by thirteen in honor and reverence for their redeemer and their twelve
apostles. They put wood underneath and with fire burned the Indians
alive."
Christians murdered Indians
We believe in the earth, the sky and dreams
The universe and the creator who gave us these
The sacred gift of life and human beings
That makes you perpetrate the hate to ahnilate
So here I am the savage civilized
Voice of the dead and my ancestor's cries
And like the ghosts of this land you can't erase
I see blood on the hands of the master race.
500 years of manifest destiny
500 years of resistance to the enemy
You have faith in the rivers, the mountains, the trees
We've a murdering god to replace all of these
With the blood of forgiveness you too can be free
Or the wrath of Jehovah you're sure to receive
We will baptize you with the blood of the lamb
With the sword and the gospel we will conquer your land
You will join our church and be glad to be saved
Or we'll slaughter your children and your women we'll rape.
Christians murdered Indians
I see blood on the hands of the master race.
w*********r
发帖数: 3382
2
15世纪五千万,基督徒来了之后17世纪少了80%,四千万条命啊,这是多大的神迹啊!

【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/hUE0TBfG7IM
: Even in the initial stages of contact between European Christians and
: Native Indian people the stage was set for ethnocentrism, and the
: attitude towards the Indians was that of Christian superiority. The
: Indians were read a proclamation in Spanish which they had no hope of
: understanding, they had no hope of understanding the death sentence they
: were being read, and it went something like this:
: "We ask and require you to acknowledge the church as the ruler and
: superior of the whole world and the high priest called pope and in his
: name the king of Spain as lords of this land. If you submit we shall

d******r
发帖数: 5008
3
现在的基过感恩节是感谢上帝. 跟印地安人还有个毛关系!

【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/hUE0TBfG7IM
: Even in the initial stages of contact between European Christians and
: Native Indian people the stage was set for ethnocentrism, and the
: attitude towards the Indians was that of Christian superiority. The
: Indians were read a proclamation in Spanish which they had no hope of
: understanding, they had no hope of understanding the death sentence they
: were being read, and it went something like this:
: "We ask and require you to acknowledge the church as the ruler and
: superior of the whole world and the high priest called pope and in his
: name the king of Spain as lords of this land. If you submit we shall

w*********r
发帖数: 3382
4
Thank god for giving this land to us christians!
yeah, thanksgiving!

【在 d******r 的大作中提到】
: 现在的基过感恩节是感谢上帝. 跟印地安人还有个毛关系!
j*******7
发帖数: 6300
5
确实这段历史令我思索了很久。
马太福音 26
20 到了晚上,耶稣和十二个门徒坐席。
21 正吃的时候,耶稣说,我实在告诉你们,你们中间有一个人要卖我了。
22 他们就甚忧愁,一个一个地问他说,主,是我吗?
http://realitybong.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/thanksgiving-celebr
Rodolphe
March 1, 2011 at 15:29
I am Quisqueyan (the original Arawak “Indian” name for the Caribbean
island, which is now known as “Hispaniola”), so I fully appreciate all the
history you related. My parent’s homeland is in fact named what its
original ‘AmeriIndian’ inhabitants called it: Haiti. My father taught me,
at a young age, all of the real history of the European “discovery” (=
debauchery), before the U.S. school system would try to brainwash me with
its revisionist lies.
What I have issue with is your calling the Europeans’ religion “
Christianity.” While those racist invaders might have liked to THINK of
themselves as Christians, their very actions and words proved that they were
the exact opposite. As the actual founder of Christianity stated (Matthew 7
:20-23), “Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those [men]. Not
everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the
heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.
Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your
name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your
name?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away
from me, you workers of lawlessness.”
The fault lies, not with Christianity, but with the Europeans’ counterfeit
version of it. Hence, Jesus Christ indicated that false religion produces
bad works, just as a “rotten tree produces worthless fruit.” (Matthew 7:15
-17) What fruit does false religion yield?
Only fake “Christians” participated in Crusades and slaughtered people
whom they considered to be unbelievers. They also went to war and killed
their own “brothers” of the same religion. They certainly did not practice
Christian neutrality and love of neighbor.—Matthew 22:37-39; John 15:19; 2
Corinthians 10:3-5; 1 John 4:8, 11.
Clearly, the churches that for centuries have called themselves Christian
represent merely a facade. This explains why there is a continuing trend of
churches fragmenting into sects, churches meddling in politics, and churches
disregarding God’s laws. Such bad fruitage is the product, not of true
Christianity, but of counterfeit Christianity, otherwise known as
CHRISTENDOM. Christendom comprises of first, Roman Catholicism, then all of
its off-shoots (like Episcopalianism, Calvinism, etc). In the 16th century,
the Spanish conquistadores made Catholicism the only religion in the land by
force of arms. In Brazil, the colonial power was Roman Catholic Portugal.
For 400 years, the Catholic Church supported the governments in power in
return for economic support and recognition as the official religion.
The apostle Paul warned the early Christians that some would use
Christianity for evil ends. He said: “Oppressive wolves will enter in among
you and will not treat the flock with tenderness, and from among you
yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples
after themselves.” (Acts 20:29, 30) One who spoke “twisted things” was
the Roman Catholic theologian Augustine. Jesus had taught his followers to
convince others by REASONING from the Scriptures. However, Augustine twisted
the meaning of Jesus’ words recorded at Luke 14:23, “Compel them to come
in,” to mean that it was all right to use force in the work of converting
people. (Matthew 28:19, 20; Acts 28:23, 24) Augustine used religion to
control people.
Now if I never recycled, drove a gas-guzzling Hummer, and was the most
wasteful consumer of products, but called myself an environmentalist (
becasue it sounds good), would you accept that I am one? Logic dictates that
I do not fit the definition of that word, therefore, merely calling myself
one, would not magically make me one.
Likewise, it’s not correct–or fair–to blame (true) Christianity for what
those of Christendom have done in its name.
What does the future hold for religions that produce rotten fruit? Jesus
warned: “Every tree not producing fine fruit gets cut down and thrown into
the fire.” (Matthew 7:19)
God does not recognize acts of worship performed by hypocrites. He is not
interested in their rituals and prayers. In fact, the Scriptures state that
God will call false religion to account for all the despicable acts it has
committed in his name. In a stroke of perfect justice, he even will use its
political paramours as his instrument of execution.
It is to that bright future that I and all other true Christians look
forward with great anticipation.
l*****a
发帖数: 38403
6
和老耶带领犹太人亲自杀婴屠城坐地分珠宝女人侵占别人的土地比较下如何?

the

【在 j*******7 的大作中提到】
: 确实这段历史令我思索了很久。
: 马太福音 26
: 20 到了晚上,耶稣和十二个门徒坐席。
: 21 正吃的时候,耶稣说,我实在告诉你们,你们中间有一个人要卖我了。
: 22 他们就甚忧愁,一个一个地问他说,主,是我吗?
: http://realitybong.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/thanksgiving-celebr
: Rodolphe
: March 1, 2011 at 15:29
: I am Quisqueyan (the original Arawak “Indian” name for the Caribbean
: island, which is now known as “Hispaniola”), so I fully appreciate all the

k****s
发帖数: 1209
7
即使那些印第安人本来就是基督徒,结果恐怕也是被屠杀。
x***e
发帖数: 844
8
可怜那,被屠杀之后,还被洗了脑。

the

【在 j*******7 的大作中提到】
: 确实这段历史令我思索了很久。
: 马太福音 26
: 20 到了晚上,耶稣和十二个门徒坐席。
: 21 正吃的时候,耶稣说,我实在告诉你们,你们中间有一个人要卖我了。
: 22 他们就甚忧愁,一个一个地问他说,主,是我吗?
: http://realitybong.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/thanksgiving-celebr
: Rodolphe
: March 1, 2011 at 15:29
: I am Quisqueyan (the original Arawak “Indian” name for the Caribbean
: island, which is now known as “Hispaniola”), so I fully appreciate all the

x***e
发帖数: 844
9
http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/hUE0TBfG7IM
Even in the initial stages of contact between European Christians and
Native Indian people the stage was set for ethnocentrism, and the
attitude towards the Indians was that of Christian superiority. The
Indians were read a proclamation in Spanish which they had no hope of
understanding, they had no hope of understanding the death sentence they
were being read, and it went something like this:
"We ask and require you to acknowledge the church as the ruler and
superior of the whole world and the high priest called pope and in his
name the king of Spain as lords of this land. If you submit we shall
receive you in all love and charity and shall leave you, your wives and
children and your lands free without servitude, but if you do not submit
we shall powerfully enter into your country and shall make war against
you, we shall take you and your wives and your children and shall make
slaves of them and we shall take away your goods and shall do you all
the harm and damage we can."
2000 years ago we were all tribal.
Then came the missionaries with their fucking bible.
1492 began the termination
The holocaust of our Indian nations
Yeah, with Christian love and a moral authority
They killed our medicine men and stole our country
I never claimed this shit was poetry
It's just the fucking lies of Christianity
You will pray to the lord and get down on your knees
Here's a cross for your back and the coughing disease
Though you helped us survive we will laugh while you bleed
Then deny what we did, write our own history
We will kidnap your children and cut off their hair
Silence their language and outlaw their prayers
Beat them blind until they believe
In the blood of Jesus Christ our king
Christians murdered Indians
Columbus murdered children and now we have a holiday
Still you want to deny your history
Look to the sky for your god to justify
As you commit cultural genocide
Christians came and the natives they did hang
13 at a time for Jesus and his gang
We are the ones you had to dehumanize
So your murder and greed could be justified
The belly of the church is full
With the blood of all those heathen fools
Who would not receive the gift of Christ?
So we burned them as a sacrifice
To our baby killing god above
To our mother church and all her love
We will steal their gods and subjugate
Those who don't believe we'll ahnilate
"The Spaniards made bets as to who would slit a man in two or cut of
his head with one blow. They tore babies from their mother's breast by
their feet and dashed their head against the rocks. They hanged Indians
by thirteen in honor and reverence for their redeemer and their twelve
apostles. They put wood underneath and with fire burned the Indians
alive."
Christians murdered Indians
We believe in the earth, the sky and dreams
The universe and the creator who gave us these
The sacred gift of life and human beings
That makes you perpetrate the hate to ahnilate
So here I am the savage civilized
Voice of the dead and my ancestor's cries
And like the ghosts of this land you can't erase
I see blood on the hands of the master race.
500 years of manifest destiny
500 years of resistance to the enemy
You have faith in the rivers, the mountains, the trees
We've a murdering god to replace all of these
With the blood of forgiveness you too can be free
Or the wrath of Jehovah you're sure to receive
We will baptize you with the blood of the lamb
With the sword and the gospel we will conquer your land
You will join our church and be glad to be saved
Or we'll slaughter your children and your women we'll rape.
Christians murdered Indians
I see blood on the hands of the master race.
w*********r
发帖数: 3382
10
15世纪五千万,基督徒来了之后17世纪少了80%,四千万条命啊,这是多大的神迹啊!

【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/hUE0TBfG7IM
: Even in the initial stages of contact between European Christians and
: Native Indian people the stage was set for ethnocentrism, and the
: attitude towards the Indians was that of Christian superiority. The
: Indians were read a proclamation in Spanish which they had no hope of
: understanding, they had no hope of understanding the death sentence they
: were being read, and it went something like this:
: "We ask and require you to acknowledge the church as the ruler and
: superior of the whole world and the high priest called pope and in his
: name the king of Spain as lords of this land. If you submit we shall

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d******r
发帖数: 5008
11
现在的基过感恩节是感谢上帝. 跟印地安人还有个毛关系!

【在 x***e 的大作中提到】
: http://www.youtube.com/watch/v/hUE0TBfG7IM
: Even in the initial stages of contact between European Christians and
: Native Indian people the stage was set for ethnocentrism, and the
: attitude towards the Indians was that of Christian superiority. The
: Indians were read a proclamation in Spanish which they had no hope of
: understanding, they had no hope of understanding the death sentence they
: were being read, and it went something like this:
: "We ask and require you to acknowledge the church as the ruler and
: superior of the whole world and the high priest called pope and in his
: name the king of Spain as lords of this land. If you submit we shall

w*********r
发帖数: 3382
12
Thank god for giving this land to us christians!
yeah, thanksgiving!

【在 d******r 的大作中提到】
: 现在的基过感恩节是感谢上帝. 跟印地安人还有个毛关系!
j*******7
发帖数: 6300
13
确实这段历史令我思索了很久。
马太福音 26
20 到了晚上,耶稣和十二个门徒坐席。
21 正吃的时候,耶稣说,我实在告诉你们,你们中间有一个人要卖我了。
22 他们就甚忧愁,一个一个地问他说,主,是我吗?
http://realitybong.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/thanksgiving-celebr
Rodolphe
March 1, 2011 at 15:29
I am Quisqueyan (the original Arawak “Indian” name for the Caribbean
island, which is now known as “Hispaniola”), so I fully appreciate all the
history you related. My parent’s homeland is in fact named what its
original ‘AmeriIndian’ inhabitants called it: Haiti. My father taught me,
at a young age, all of the real history of the European “discovery” (=
debauchery), before the U.S. school system would try to brainwash me with
its revisionist lies.
What I have issue with is your calling the Europeans’ religion “
Christianity.” While those racist invaders might have liked to THINK of
themselves as Christians, their very actions and words proved that they were
the exact opposite. As the actual founder of Christianity stated (Matthew 7
:20-23), “Really, then, by their fruits you will recognize those [men]. Not
everyone saying to me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter into the kingdom of the
heavens, but the one doing the will of my Father who is in the heavens will.
Many will say to me in that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your
name, and expel demons in your name, and perform many powerful works in your
name?’ And yet then I will confess to them: I never knew YOU! Get away
from me, you workers of lawlessness.”
The fault lies, not with Christianity, but with the Europeans’ counterfeit
version of it. Hence, Jesus Christ indicated that false religion produces
bad works, just as a “rotten tree produces worthless fruit.” (Matthew 7:15
-17) What fruit does false religion yield?
Only fake “Christians” participated in Crusades and slaughtered people
whom they considered to be unbelievers. They also went to war and killed
their own “brothers” of the same religion. They certainly did not practice
Christian neutrality and love of neighbor.—Matthew 22:37-39; John 15:19; 2
Corinthians 10:3-5; 1 John 4:8, 11.
Clearly, the churches that for centuries have called themselves Christian
represent merely a facade. This explains why there is a continuing trend of
churches fragmenting into sects, churches meddling in politics, and churches
disregarding God’s laws. Such bad fruitage is the product, not of true
Christianity, but of counterfeit Christianity, otherwise known as
CHRISTENDOM. Christendom comprises of first, Roman Catholicism, then all of
its off-shoots (like Episcopalianism, Calvinism, etc). In the 16th century,
the Spanish conquistadores made Catholicism the only religion in the land by
force of arms. In Brazil, the colonial power was Roman Catholic Portugal.
For 400 years, the Catholic Church supported the governments in power in
return for economic support and recognition as the official religion.
The apostle Paul warned the early Christians that some would use
Christianity for evil ends. He said: “Oppressive wolves will enter in among
you and will not treat the flock with tenderness, and from among you
yourselves men will rise and speak twisted things to draw away the disciples
after themselves.” (Acts 20:29, 30) One who spoke “twisted things” was
the Roman Catholic theologian Augustine. Jesus had taught his followers to
convince others by REASONING from the Scriptures. However, Augustine twisted
the meaning of Jesus’ words recorded at Luke 14:23, “Compel them to come
in,” to mean that it was all right to use force in the work of converting
people. (Matthew 28:19, 20; Acts 28:23, 24) Augustine used religion to
control people.
Now if I never recycled, drove a gas-guzzling Hummer, and was the most
wasteful consumer of products, but called myself an environmentalist (
becasue it sounds good), would you accept that I am one? Logic dictates that
I do not fit the definition of that word, therefore, merely calling myself
one, would not magically make me one.
Likewise, it’s not correct–or fair–to blame (true) Christianity for what
those of Christendom have done in its name.
What does the future hold for religions that produce rotten fruit? Jesus
warned: “Every tree not producing fine fruit gets cut down and thrown into
the fire.” (Matthew 7:19)
God does not recognize acts of worship performed by hypocrites. He is not
interested in their rituals and prayers. In fact, the Scriptures state that
God will call false religion to account for all the despicable acts it has
committed in his name. In a stroke of perfect justice, he even will use its
political paramours as his instrument of execution.
It is to that bright future that I and all other true Christians look
forward with great anticipation.
l*****a
发帖数: 38403
14
和老耶带领犹太人亲自杀婴屠城坐地分珠宝女人侵占别人的土地比较下如何?

the

【在 j*******7 的大作中提到】
: 确实这段历史令我思索了很久。
: 马太福音 26
: 20 到了晚上,耶稣和十二个门徒坐席。
: 21 正吃的时候,耶稣说,我实在告诉你们,你们中间有一个人要卖我了。
: 22 他们就甚忧愁,一个一个地问他说,主,是我吗?
: http://realitybong.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/thanksgiving-celebr
: Rodolphe
: March 1, 2011 at 15:29
: I am Quisqueyan (the original Arawak “Indian” name for the Caribbean
: island, which is now known as “Hispaniola”), so I fully appreciate all the

k****s
发帖数: 1209
15
即使那些印第安人本来就是基督徒,结果恐怕也是被屠杀。
x***e
发帖数: 844
16
可怜那,被屠杀之后,还被洗了脑。

the

【在 j*******7 的大作中提到】
: 确实这段历史令我思索了很久。
: 马太福音 26
: 20 到了晚上,耶稣和十二个门徒坐席。
: 21 正吃的时候,耶稣说,我实在告诉你们,你们中间有一个人要卖我了。
: 22 他们就甚忧愁,一个一个地问他说,主,是我吗?
: http://realitybong.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/thanksgiving-celebr
: Rodolphe
: March 1, 2011 at 15:29
: I am Quisqueyan (the original Arawak “Indian” name for the Caribbean
: island, which is now known as “Hispaniola”), so I fully appreciate all the

C*******t
发帖数: 766
17
up
j*******7
发帖数: 6300
18
几个事实/感想 --
90%印第安人的死亡是因为传染病,但没有研究表明病菌是欧洲移民/军队故意散布的。
当时北美印第安人和欧洲移民确实有很激烈的各个方面的冲突。在任何时代和地方都有
号称基督徒的人干了不少坏事。
结论是:北美印第安人的快速灭绝90%是因为天灾,10%是人祸。所以天灾还是主要原因
。但天灾背后的意义究竟是什么就值得深思了。
p***m
发帖数: 387
19
别人的土地别人的家园,造成10%的人为伤害在你嘴里就这么糊弄过去了? 10%是个什
么概念?

【在 j*******7 的大作中提到】
: 几个事实/感想 --
: 90%印第安人的死亡是因为传染病,但没有研究表明病菌是欧洲移民/军队故意散布的。
: 当时北美印第安人和欧洲移民确实有很激烈的各个方面的冲突。在任何时代和地方都有
: 号称基督徒的人干了不少坏事。
: 结论是:北美印第安人的快速灭绝90%是因为天灾,10%是人祸。所以天灾还是主要原因
: 。但天灾背后的意义究竟是什么就值得深思了。

C*******t
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马大师恬不知耻的习惯还是改不了
那段历史资料史载不详,很多学者都不确定到底九百多万印第安人怎么死的,到了马大
师这里,90%疾病死亡就成了事实,这是你家耶神统计出来的吗?
再说,就算真的是疾病,没有神的允许,不是一根毛都掉不到地上吗?这九百多万人惨
死,是怎么体现“神爱世人”的请马大师说说看?
看看那时的基督徒是怎么解释的吧:
Governor William Bradford wrote, in 1633, about the second reported outbreak
(e.g. 1617, 1633) in New England: "... for it pleased God to visit these
Indians with a great sickness, and such a mortality that of a 1000. above
900.and a half of them died, and many of them did rot above ground for want
of burial, ..."
这是多么有爱的基督徒和耶神啊。。。哈利路亚!

【在 j*******7 的大作中提到】
: 几个事实/感想 --
: 90%印第安人的死亡是因为传染病,但没有研究表明病菌是欧洲移民/军队故意散布的。
: 当时北美印第安人和欧洲移民确实有很激烈的各个方面的冲突。在任何时代和地方都有
: 号称基督徒的人干了不少坏事。
: 结论是:北美印第安人的快速灭绝90%是因为天灾,10%是人祸。所以天灾还是主要原因
: 。但天灾背后的意义究竟是什么就值得深思了。

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s*********t
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你对印第安人非凡的同情心我是很感动。但希望你不要忘记1800万人被日本鬼子给残杀
掉的中国同胞。
佛教是日本国的大教之一,不知佛陀知道了会有什么感想。
这一千八百多万中国人惨死,是怎么体现佛教的“慈悲为怀”的请说说看?
以人的行为来作衡量是最不靠谱,思维钻牛角尖。我只能说一句”你脑袋进水了“
p***m
发帖数: 387
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对你这种幸口雌黄的行为感到惊讶,难怪基督教训练出来的人撒谎都是气定神韵脸不红
心不跳。
那些杀人的士兵都是佛教徒吗,那些为天皇尽死尽终的行为怎么叫佛教徒? 按你的逻辑
八国联军七个都是基督教国家怎么解释?

【在 s*********t 的大作中提到】
: 你对印第安人非凡的同情心我是很感动。但希望你不要忘记1800万人被日本鬼子给残杀
: 掉的中国同胞。
: 佛教是日本国的大教之一,不知佛陀知道了会有什么感想。
: 这一千八百多万中国人惨死,是怎么体现佛教的“慈悲为怀”的请说说看?
: 以人的行为来作衡量是最不靠谱,思维钻牛角尖。我只能说一句”你脑袋进水了“

C*******t
发帖数: 766
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巨星的智商真是让人着急,你真是理解不了里面的区别是吗?
屠杀印第安人的可基本都是基督教徒,参加侵华的佛教徒有几个?
基督徒还认为印第安人死是上帝的意思,你见哪个佛教徒认为中国人被杀是佛陀的意思?
基督徒殖民的同时另一重要目的就是传教,日鬼子亲华是为了传尼码佛教吗?

【在 s*********t 的大作中提到】
: 你对印第安人非凡的同情心我是很感动。但希望你不要忘记1800万人被日本鬼子给残杀
: 掉的中国同胞。
: 佛教是日本国的大教之一,不知佛陀知道了会有什么感想。
: 这一千八百多万中国人惨死,是怎么体现佛教的“慈悲为怀”的请说说看?
: 以人的行为来作衡量是最不靠谱,思维钻牛角尖。我只能说一句”你脑袋进水了“

s*********t
发帖数: 4253
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我说的是事实。
(百度)二战日军究竟有多少兵力?
在7.7事变前日本的经济总量达到283亿美圆,是世界第6经济强国,
在7.7事变前,日本全国只有4个装备整员的师团,不到20万人而国民党军队光陆军就达到
200多万,7.7事变后,日本开始大量的扩充兵员,到1941年太平洋战争爆发前,在中国有
110个师团,总共250多万人,此后日本兵力一直升高到1945年达到600多万,但兵员的素质
却不断的下降,日本的人口只有7600多万,已经不堪重负
再看看以下英文(wiki)
“ During World War II, almost all Buddhists temples strongly supported
Japan's
militarization.:
不要说是日本人民,连和尚都向天皇参军报到。
你敢说这6百万日军中连个佛教徒都没?我看是你在逃避现实吧?
我来总结下:做人不要太虚伪。
Wiki 来源
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhism_in_Japan

【在 p***m 的大作中提到】
: 对你这种幸口雌黄的行为感到惊讶,难怪基督教训练出来的人撒谎都是气定神韵脸不红
: 心不跳。
: 那些杀人的士兵都是佛教徒吗,那些为天皇尽死尽终的行为怎么叫佛教徒? 按你的逻辑
: 八国联军七个都是基督教国家怎么解释?

G****t
发帖数: 1799
25
佛不吹牛皮。佛法讲因果是自然规律,他只是发现者,从不说信他就万事大吉,“吾为
汝示解脱道,解脱当依汝自身”。
想离苦,要依教奉行,要依四圣谛八正道。
佛还说自己三不能, 一、不能代人转业;二、不能代人成佛,三、不能度无缘众生。
并不是剃光头就依教奉行的,参见满大街的假和尚骗子。

【在 s*********t 的大作中提到】
: 我说的是事实。
: (百度)二战日军究竟有多少兵力?
: 在7.7事变前日本的经济总量达到283亿美圆,是世界第6经济强国,
: 在7.7事变前,日本全国只有4个装备整员的师团,不到20万人而国民党军队光陆军就达到
: 200多万,7.7事变后,日本开始大量的扩充兵员,到1941年太平洋战争爆发前,在中国有
: 110个师团,总共250多万人,此后日本兵力一直升高到1945年达到600多万,但兵员的素质
: 却不断的下降,日本的人口只有7600多万,已经不堪重负
: 再看看以下英文(wiki)
: “ During World War II, almost all Buddhists temples strongly supported
: Japan's

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