j*****7
发帖数: 10575 | | j*****7
发帖数: 10575 | | R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 3 God chose them to implement the plan of salvation.
God won't choose a person just to make person live better. God always have
a purpose, a plan.
God sometimes make people suffer. Can you argue that God don't love these p
eople?
Without the promise of eternal heavenly life, how can we justify the sufferi
ngs of the current life?
【在 j*****7 的大作中提到】
: 亚伯拉罕
: 摩西
: 大卫
: 十二使徒
: 保罗
| R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 4 God choose Moses, Paul ...not because He is pleased to save them, but becaus
e God wanted to use them for His plan.
for instance, why did God let the man in John 9 be blind? Can you say that
God is pleased to let the man be blind? Or God made the man blind for His p
lan?
John 9
Jesus Heals a Man Born Blind
1 As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 His disciples asked hi
m, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"
3 "Neither this man nor his parents sinned," said Jesus, "but this happen
ed so that the works of God might be displayed in him. 4 As long as it is da
y, we must do the works of him who sent me. Night is coming, when no one can
work. 5 While I am in the world, I am the light of the world."
【在 j*****7 的大作中提到】
: 没有神的主动拣选,这些人能认识神得救么?
| j*****7
发帖数: 10575 | 5 so，如果没有神的拣选
人是不可能自己寻且神的
对不对？
becaus
that
p
hi
happen
【在 R*o 的大作中提到】
: God choose Moses, Paul ...not because He is pleased to save them, but becaus
: e God wanted to use them for His plan.
: for instance, why did God let the man in John 9 be blind? Can you say that
: God is pleased to let the man be blind? Or God made the man blind for His p
: lan?
: John 9
: Jesus Heals a Man Born Blind
: 1 As he went along, he saw a man blind from birth. 2 His disciples asked hi
: m, "Rabbi, who sinned, this man or his parents, that he was born blind?"
: 3 "Neither this man nor his parents sinned," said Jesus, "but this happen
| T**********s
发帖数: 340 | 6 他根本就不懂，自己都不信，自以为懂，实际上都是乱来的。
不过其钻研精神可嘉，可惜用错了地方，浪费了自己和他人的精力 | R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 7 you are right
But God wanted to save every one of us. God draw all mankind to his Son Jes
us Christ>
John 12:32
But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself."
【在 j*****7 的大作中提到】
: so，如果没有神的拣选
: 人是不可能自己寻且神的
: 对不对？
:
: becaus
: that
: p
: hi
: happen
| x***x
发帖数: 3401 | 8 奴性。
【在 j*****7 的大作中提到】
: so，如果没有神的拣选
: 人是不可能自己寻且神的
: 对不对？
:
: becaus
: that
: p
: hi
: happen
| j*****7
发帖数: 10575 | 9 看清楚了
约翰福音
17:9我为他们祈求。不为世人祈求，却为你所赐给我的人祈求，因他们本是你的。
17:12我与他们同在的时候，因你所赐给我的名，保守了他们，我也护卫了他们，其中
除了那灭亡之子，没有一个灭亡的。好叫经上的话得应验。
Jes
【在 R*o 的大作中提到】
: you are right
: But God wanted to save every one of us. God draw all mankind to his Son Jes
: us Christ>
: John 12:32
: But I, when I am lifted up from the earth, will draw all men to myself."
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