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t****z
发帖数: 8931

几个私有公司互相不协调，扯皮，占用轨道，调度不灵
任意取消班次，半途停运，连候车月台都能在30分钟内换3次
有一次我从爱丁堡去布里斯托尔，本来算的好好的，结果先晚点，后来两个班次合一班
，到了伯明翰就不走了。伯明翰11点就一趟火车都没有，要是到reading，在牛津住一
夜也好
害的我只好临时找旅馆，一个车站破旅馆要97英镑，
不是美元，不是欧元，是97英镑
第二天是星期天，竟然往南第一班车要10点才发车
在伯明翰这个最丑陋城市浪费时间浪费金钱

p********d
发帖数: 121

走地鸡，你不顺便卖身一晚，住宿费不但免了，还有额外收入

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: 几个私有公司互相不协调，扯皮，占用轨道，调度不灵
: 任意取消班次，半途停运，连候车月台都能在30分钟内换3次
: 有一次我从爱丁堡去布里斯托尔，本来算的好好的，结果先晚点，后来两个班次合一班
: ，到了伯明翰就不走了。伯明翰11点就一趟火车都没有，要是到reading，在牛津住一
: 夜也好
: 害的我只好临时找旅馆，一个车站破旅馆要97英镑，
: 不是美元，不是欧元，是97英镑
: 第二天是星期天，竟然往南第一班车要10点才发车
: 在伯明翰这个最丑陋城市浪费时间浪费金钱

z***y
发帖数: 13818

你开玩笑.
她哪有那么值钱.

【在 p********d 的大作中提到】

: 走地鸡，你不顺便卖身一晚，住宿费不但免了，还有额外收入

w********d
发帖数: 369

selling the railway system is one of the many things the conservatives have
done wrong

n****n
发帖数: 59

恭喜你，答对了！在英国坐火车是需要一定勇气智慧和耐心的。

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f***4
发帖数: 886

这个没啥，不就完点了一晚啊。
去年下小雪的时候，无数旅客被滞留在火车上/车站里，无取暖无水呆了5个小时以上。
单发的事件天天有。最近一次大的是在kings cross的涵洞里，火车通风系统停止，非
常高的温度，一车的旅客滞留6个小时，很多人近于晕厥。里面有孕妇及糖尿病人。其
间有英雄用暴力打开车门，供大家通风用。最后人们实在受不了了，私自下车出了涵洞
，等待旅客的是警察的逮捕警告，trespass

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q*******n
发帖数: 20306

美国也是类似啊，技术有一点，但管理一塌糊涂，损耗大，效率低。纽约市地铁就是
这样。

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t*********n
发帖数: 29

ny到montrea要跑11个小时，绿皮车都没有这么慢的。
车上开的不是冷气是冰箱！

t****z
发帖数: 8931

kings cross那个81／2不是哈利波特仙境入口

【在 f***4 的大作中提到】

: 这个没啥，不就完点了一晚啊。
: 去年下小雪的时候，无数旅客被滞留在火车上/车站里，无取暖无水呆了5个小时以上。
: 单发的事件天天有。最近一次大的是在kings cross的涵洞里，火车通风系统停止，非
: 常高的温度，一车的旅客滞留6个小时，很多人近于晕厥。里面有孕妇及糖尿病人。其
: 间有英雄用暴力打开车门，供大家通风用。最后人们实在受不了了，私自下车出了涵洞
: ，等待旅客的是警察的逮捕警告，trespass

h****7
发帖数: 2350

楼主为啥每天都是一肚子怨气呢?? 欧亚美几大洲都被骂遍了.

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t****z
发帖数: 8931

我有一次去芝加哥签英国签证
火车走走停停
到英国领事馆都下午1点了
过了签证时间
人听说后还是给我当天签了
不过当时amtrak10元单程

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: ny到montrea要跑11个小时，绿皮车都没有这么慢的。
: 车上开的不是冷气是冰箱！

c**i
发帖数: 6973

(A) Come on. Living in US, we know nothing about the Great Britain (GBR).
You should have given some introduction.
(1) Place names.
Most place names in Massachusetts are from GBR (the word Massachusetts is
Native American). That is why I have a vague idea where the namesakes are,
that you mention.
(a) Bristol
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bristol
(The town of Brycgstow (Old English, "the place at the bridge")[16] appears
to have been founded in c.1000)
Compare:
In Anglo-Saxon time, Cambridge was called Grantabrycge – 'Bridge over
Granta.' "[I]ndeed the Upper River (the stretch between the Millpond in
Cambridge and Grantchester) [of River Cam] is correctly known as the Granta
to this day."
Cambridge
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cambridge
(b) Reading, Berkshire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reading,_Berkshire
(some 40 miles (64 km) west of London; The first evidence for Reading as a
settlement dates from the 8th century, when the town came to be known as
Readingum. The name probably comes from the Readingas, an Anglo-Saxon tribe
whose name means Reada's People in Old English)
(2) GBR's rail system.
(a) rail transport in Great Britain
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rail_transport_in_Great_Britain
(privatization during 1994-1997)
Quote:
"The railway system in Great Britain is the oldest in the world, with the
world's first locomotive-hauled public railway opening in 1825. As of 2006,
it consists of 16,264 kilometres (10,106 mi) of standard gauge lines (the
16th largest in the world), of which 5,361 kilometres (3,331 mi) are
electrified. * * * In addition, a number of narrow gauge lines operate in
parts of the country.
"Despite its track length, it [British railway network] is one of the
busiest railways in Europe, with 20% more train services than France, 60%
more than Italy, and more than Spain, Switzerland, The Netherlands, Portugal
and Norway combined.
Note:
(i) standard gauge:
(b) Maps of the National Rail network
http://www.nationalrail.co.uk/passenger_services/maps/
(i) Check out the first two maps:
* National Rail Network Map by National Rail
, where one may locate Edinburgh, Birmingham, Bristol . Reading and Oxford (
next to reading in the northwest direction)
* National Rail Network Map by Network Rail
(ii) National Rail
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_rail
(Introduced 1999; Owner Association of Train Operating Companies (ATOC);
passenger rail services; section 1 National Rail and Network Rail)
The key distinctions are Network Rail owns the physical assets (see next),
and rail lines for freight only (that explains Map by Network Rail is more
extensive than Map by National Rail, above).
(iii) Network Rail
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Rail
(Foundeed 2002; Network Rail's main customers are train operating companies
(TOCs; responsible for passenger transport) and freight operating companies
(FOCs); section 3 Assets: Infracture, Stations, Training facilities,
Telecoms assets and Rolling stock--headings of five subsections 3.1 to 3.5)
Both privately owned, TOCs are domestic, but FOCs are multinational.
rolling stock (n): " the wheeled vehicles owned and used by a railroad or
motor carrier"
(B) Now, regarding your complaint.
(1) Both articles are from Economist. Latest first.
(a) High-speed rail | The Need for Speed; Doubts about the business case
are unlikely to derail high-speed trains. Economist, Mar 3, 2011.
http://www.economist.com/node/18284049
("BRITAIN’S railways were built by the Victorians, and it shows. Large
parts of the network remain un-electrified, for instance, more than 100
years after electrification was invented")
My comment: Previously it is pointed out that out of 16,264km, 5,361km GBR
rail line are electrified. Diesel locomotives are the workforse of the
remaining rail lines. See section 3.5 Rolling stock in
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Network_Rail
(b) Roads and rail | Britain Isn't Moving; Labour should make amends for
its failed transport policy in three ways. Economist, Nov 30, 2006.
http://www.economist.com/node
/8353188?story_id=E1_RPVPTRR
("rail accounts for only 6% of passenger miles travelled in Britain whereas
cars account for 85% of passenger miles; road also dominates freight
transport. * * * Road congestion [in GBR is] the worst in Europe * * * Why
has transport been so neglected in Britain?")
Note:
(i) The "emergency ward" is "emergency room" (abbreviation ER; First Known
Use 1964) in US.
All definitions are from www.m-w.com, except otherwise noted.
See also
Emergency department
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emergency_department
(ii) frazzle (vt; alteration of English dialect fazle to tangle, fray):
"to put in a state of extreme physical or nervous fatigue"
(iii) trunk road (n): "( Brit ) a main road, esp one that is suitable for
heavy vehicles"
Collins English Dictionary - Complete & Unabridged 10th Edition, 2009
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/trunk+road
(2) If one search BBC (www.bbc.co.uk) with train delay wihout quotation
marks, he will get plenty of search results: signal problem, this and that.
One stands out, though.
(a) Richard Scott. Cable Theft 'Caused Over 6,000 Hours of Train Delays.'
BBC, May 9, 2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-13342162
("Train passengers were delayed by 6,088 hours over the last year because of
cable theft, Network Rail has said")
Note: For "sleeper," see railroad tie
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Railroad_tie
(A railroad tie/railway tie (North America), or railway sleeper (Europe))
(b) Train Delays: Your Stories. BBC, June 10, 2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-13722941
(an attempted cable theft was likely to have caused the problem)
(3) Felicity Lawrence, 'Hanslop junction is deadly ... spads happen all the
time: 'Phil, a driver with Virgin Trains, tells Felicity Lawrence what life
on the line is really like. Guardian, Jan 16, 2002.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2002/jan/16/transport.uk
Note:
(a) Paragraph 2 talked about passengers' "£180 a ticket to sit in a
fridge." The onto why trains were always late.
(b) Virgin Trains
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Virgin_Trains
(a train operating companies (TOC); Although it is branded as part of Virgin
Group, the group's share in it is only 51%, the remaining 49% being held by
Stagecoach Group.)
(c) This report is part of Special Reports: Rail Crisis. Guandian, Jan 14-18
, 2002.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/transport/rail/0,,631327,00.html

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z**u
发帖数: 48

不是欧洲最烂的，但是发达欧洲国家中最烂的。比南欧一些国家好。

t****z
发帖数: 8931

这有啥好介绍的去bristol因为靠近巴斯旅游地
我以前认识一对英国孪生兄弟
他爸是bbc剪辑
住bristol
他爸是毛的崇拜者
两兄弟先去leeds读中文
然后都留在中中国
因为他们老吹不利丝托儿
所以看看可以反驳他们

t****z
发帖数: 8931

这帖4000点击为啥没人回啊

t****z
发帖数: 8931

reading出名除了靠牛津近还有8区有个贱人就是那个雷丁大学的

c**i
发帖数: 6973

(1) Come on, the trespass charge is an exaggeration: there is an inquiry,
but the focus is on the mishap, not on passengers. Besides, it was not 6
hours, but 3. Finally it did not happen at King's Cross tunnel [note].
Note:
(a) King's Cross is a neighborhood in London. Consult
King's Cross: History; Summary of an urban story. Visit King's Cross,
undated.
http://www.visitkingscross.com/history.htm
("The area was known then as Battlebridge * * * The origin of the name
Battlebridge is not universally agreed. * * * The name 'King's Cross' was
not used before the 19th century. * * * The King of King's Cross is George
IV, who reigned from 1820 to 1830. * * * The origin of the name is simple, a
statue of the King, at the cross roads of The New Road (Now Euston Road),
Maiden Lane (now York Way), Pentonville Hill (now Road), and Gray's Inn Road
. The statue was erected in 1830-36 and demolished in 1842")
(b) At in King's Cross there are two tunnels, neither of which trains go
through.
(i) King's Cross Thameslink railway station
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki
/King's_Cross_Thameslink_railway_station
(The foot tunnel from King's Cross St. Pancras tube station to the ticket
office of the former Thameslink station remains open from 07:00 to 20:00 on
Mondays to Fridays, to provide extra access to London Underground platforms
from Pentonville Road; section 3 Gallery, where phto 3 has caption: "Foot
tunnel")
(ii) Gemma Jones, Kings Cross tunnel a fire hazard. Apr 1, 2010.
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/travel/kings-cross
-tunnel-a-fire-hazard/story-e6frezhr-1225848243082
I keep the original case of the title to show that there is no proper name
called King's Cross Tunnel, because the tunnel in the title is of lower case.
(2) Latest news first.
(a) First Capital Connect Three-Hour Delay Train Inquiry. BBC, June 8, 2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13696658
("RAIB said the train had stopped because of an electrical problem on the
train itself which had caused the overhead line's electrical protection
equipment to trip, cutting off power to several trains in the area. [But]
FCC maintained it was overhead power problems that caused the train to fail
and not a train failure.")
Note: First Capital Connect is a train operating company (TOC) in GBR.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Capital_Connect
(b) First Capital Connect Passengers Stuck for three hours. BBC, May 26,
2011
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-13569666
("First Capital Connect said the service stopped just outside Kentish Town
station in north London at 1830 BST after trouble with overhead lines. The
company said the St Pancras to St Albans train was towed back into Kentish
Town at about 2115 BST."
Note: Thameslink
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thameslink
(See the schematic map: from top toward the middle of the map:
St Albans City >
Kentish town >
"St Pancras International" [station] alongside "Kings Cross Tunnel (1,704 yd
(1,558 m)"

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Q*****n
发帖数: 4546

这么恐怖

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c**i
发帖数: 6973

You misunderstood me.
(a) Those who live in US know little about UK, even less about its rail. If
you live or lived in US, you should know. It is unlike Amtrak (passenger
rail in US) or New York subway that many people in the WORLD have some
experience when coming to US.
(b) The backgroud we needed is about UK rail system, not why you went there.
Perhaps for this reasons, a visitor has no say, simply because he or she
knows little, has no personal experience, and have never seen it in TV or
cable.

【在 t****z 的大作中提到】

: 这有啥好介绍的去bristol因为靠近巴斯旅游地
: 我以前认识一对英国孪生兄弟
: 他爸是bbc剪辑
: 住bristol
: 他爸是毛的崇拜者
: 两兄弟先去leeds读中文
: 然后都留在中中国
: 因为他们老吹不利丝托儿
: 所以看看可以反驳他们

x***0
发帖数: 3070

http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t/Prose/31195323.html
x1980我是凤凰男第九集已经出炉，欢迎阅读。

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m**h
发帖数: 94

最脏倒是，现在了还是内燃机车，坐半天火车衬衣上好多灰，比法国的差多了

t****z
发帖数: 8931

欧洲之星开到伦敦
英国也有高速嘛
英国比法国小一半
慢慢来

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: 最脏倒是，现在了还是内燃机车，坐半天火车衬衣上好多灰，比法国的差多了

q******s
发帖数: 7469

是比较烂。像什么烂gatwick express也要20磅,叫express,中间还停几下。
去cambridge的还可以。偶去爱丁堡几次也没碰到问题。

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