c****1
发帖数: 457 | 1 (pic. provided by fryking, lol)
First briefly describe the course how I reach the final table. At the very
beginning of tourney, I got double up over someone’s donkey move. After
that, my AA 3 bet preflop, villain call and hit bottom two pairs, we went
all in and fortunately I catched higher two pairs at river and suck him out.
With 3X starting chips, I cruised all the way with healthy chips until
around 100 players remain when the blinds increase faster than the chips I
can accumulate. After my AK lost to an AQ all in, my chips dropped below the
average. Then there was not much room for me to make a move. I started to
play tight, occasionally pick up a spot to steal blinds. Eventually, my luck
Goddness came. My AQ sucked out other’s QQ, my AK doubled through other’s
KQ, my pocket fives 5-bet let my opponent lay his hand down. So I went to
the final table as the chip leader.
The follows are what I was thinking when I sat at the final table.
Personally, I think I played the final table very well, but I wouldn’t say
every hand I played is an optimal move. Until now, for some hand I am not
sure whether that’s the right move. Any discussion is more than welcome.
The highlight show of the final table can be found at
http://www.pokerstars.tv/poker-video-6287-online-poker-show-sunday-million-august-8th-2010.html?channel_id=93 .
It contains many key elements to play MTT, especially at the late stage of a big tourney.
1. 3-bet and 4-bet
At the late stage of a tourney, the blinds and antes is around 5% of the
average chip stack. So many players attempt to steal this huge dead money
and hence they open with very marginal hands. Nowadays, people have noticed
this and started to 3 bet and resteal the dead money. The key to 3-bet is to
pick up the right person ( image, stack, position and so on). The timing of
3-bet is crucial. Also, it is better that you have a read on villain and
feel that he has a high chance to fold to your 3-bet. 4-bet is rarely used.
But if you have a very strong hand or a gut read on your opponent, go for it.
At this final table, I observed that most players play very cautiously
except Tonimonntana. He opened a lot of pot light and more importantly he
doesn’t like play marginally hands to 3-bet and most of times will fold to
3-bet. In addition, I feel he doesn’t want to get too entangled with chip
leader. Therefore,I pick up Tonimonntana to execute my 3 bet resteal plan.
Hand 8, 30, 32, 66 , whenever I feel his bet is weak, I don’t hesitate to
3-bet him.
Hand 53, Tonimonntana 3-bet me with 2.5 million, I just feel that the exact
2.5 million is so suspicious and he wouldn’t respond so quickly with an
exact number if he held a monster. Thus, I 4-bet shove all in with my AJ.
2. Continuation bet, double barrel and fire the third bullet (pot control)
Whenever you think the flop is unlikely to hit your opponent hard, you
should c-bet.
Hand 8. Tonimonntana called my 3 bet and the flop came as A 2 3, if he doesn
’t have an ace, I will definitely take the pot down right there. If he had
ace, it is easy for me to back off. So this is a good spot to c-bet.
On the other hand, we should know that the continuation bet /double barrel
will blow up the pot and easily let us pot committed. So sometimes, pot
control is also necessary. But the downside of pot control is to give your
opponent free cards.
Hand 5, I raise with Js,Jh from UTG+2, Tonimonntana call from BB, the
board is Kh, Tc, 9d. One overcard on board. Most of times, I should bet
here. However, I really don’t know what to do if he check-raise me. Before
I move to the final table, I haven’t played a single hand with Tonimonntana
and I have no read on him. If I call his check-raise, the pot would be
blown to about 5 million and there are 2 streets coming. I am the chip
leader and he is the second largest. So I take the safe route, control the
pot and give him a free card. As you can see in the video, the free card hit
him and I lost a big pot. (what’s your thought? my friend, c-bet or pot
control at flop?)
Hand 91, I open with 8h, 6h from button. Board is Jh,4d,9h. With flush draw,
c-bet is obviously in place. Turn 9d. Tonimonntana checked, I think he
either has the jack , pocket Ts, 8s, or on a flush or straight draw. Which
one? Have to bet to find out. So I double barrel it. The river is 4c. His
call on the turn makes me uncomfortable, but his check assures me he doesn’
t have 9 or 4. So 50% chance he has jack and the other 50% he has busted
draw. So I only bet 1/4 of pot to give me positive expected value. If he
doesn’t have the jack, he will fold to my 1/4 pot bet; if he does have, I
only lose 1/4 pot.
3. Squeeze play
Hand 49, if a player opens light and another player just call instead raise,
which means his hand is also not that strong, you can 3 bet (I squeezed
with 6 9 offsuit, haha). The original raiser is afraid of your hand and also
the action from other caller behind him. He probably folds. Since the other
caller’s hand is not strong, he probably folds as well. Be careful,
nowadays some experienced players holding monster hands just call a light
raiser to induce squeeze play from late position.
4. Induce bluff
Hand 34, I opened the pot with AQ from UTG+1. Pocketnizzles 3 bets.
Although he had TAG image, but I had been loosely 3-betting so much, it is
likely that he tried to fight back. I put him on 88 + or AT+. 1.4 million
to flat his 3-bet and the pot is 3.9 million. I have 1/3 chance to hit-my A
or Q and if I hit it I think I am probably ahead. Of course, he might have
AA KK and I might go broke. But I decided to gamble here. Bingo, the flop
gave me the nuts. The rest is to design your betting amount to extract as
much value as you can. I check, he put a very small bet there. I think he
either completely miss or hold KK/AA. Considering a couple of hands ago (
Hand 15), I check-raise-fold Snow in June and the board is also unlikely hit
my hands, I decide to min check raise him to show weakness and induce him
bluffing me. But he didn’t reraise me, so I put him on a possible straight
or flush draw. I bet big on turn to shut down his draws. I guess he
misinterpreted my hand as a draw and think his shove can let me fold my
draws. Unfortunately for him, I have a monster hand.
5. Stone cold bluff
Stone cold bluff relies mostly on your read and courage.
Hand 74, we play down to 4 players. As said by the commentator, I feel that
the other 3 players are intimidated by my aggressive play. Off course, I can
open Qs, 5s from SB. The flop comes Ah, 9c, 3h. Blank!! I open a c-bet to
represent ace followed by a reraise from Snow. But from his response timing
and betting amount, I have a very strong feeling he is hesitating to put
chips in. He has something and want to fight back but is afraid of my
ensuing action. I put him on a pair of 9 (he actually had flush draw). Thus,
I decide to put the pressure back on him and 4 bet him and it worked.
Hand 15, when stone cold bluff doesn’t work and your opponent has
legitimate hand, you need to find an exit quickly. I called a min raise from
BB, board came as A 7 2 rainbow, I check raised Snow, hoping he held middle
pocket pair or suited connector. Unfortunately, it did not work out and I
lost many chips ;( . When your bluff failed, you need to be brave to
continue to make your move based on your instinct.
Many players at the final table pay too much attention to the hugh money
jump. So the aggressive play usually pays off. Hoever, some of the play you
see in the video is hard to use at the early stage of tourneys or in low buy
-in games. We need to adapt our play based on our opponents. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 2 先顶后看。
cmis91，俺替你把标题改成中文的了，并请求站方帮助置顶，希望更多人能注意到，吸
引人气。
再次祝贺！
out.
the
luck
’s
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: (pic. provided by fryking, lol)
: First briefly describe the course how I reach the final table. At the very
: beginning of tourney, I got double up over someone’s donkey move. After
: that, my AA 3 bet preflop, villain call and hit bottom two pairs, we went
: all in and fortunately I catched higher two pairs at river and suck him out.
: With 3X starting chips, I cruised all the way with healthy chips until
: around 100 players remain when the blinds increase faster than the chips I
: can accumulate. After my AK lost to an AQ all in, my chips dropped below the
: average. Then there was not much room for me to make a move. I started to
: play tight, occasionally pick up a spot to steal blinds. Eventually, my luck
| d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 3 赞 great table control
you are not playing with ur hands, you are playing with ur opponents | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 4 oh, love the video part!
out.
the
luck
’s
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: (pic. provided by fryking, lol)
: First briefly describe the course how I reach the final table. At the very
: beginning of tourney, I got double up over someone’s donkey move. After
: that, my AA 3 bet preflop, villain call and hit bottom two pairs, we went
: all in and fortunately I catched higher two pairs at river and suck him out.
: With 3X starting chips, I cruised all the way with healthy chips until
: around 100 players remain when the blinds increase faster than the chips I
: can accumulate. After my AK lost to an AQ all in, my chips dropped below the
: average. Then there was not much room for me to make a move. I started to
: play tight, occasionally pick up a spot to steal blinds. Eventually, my luck
| t********t
发帖数: 5415 | 5 每周sunday million的ft都有video的，下午我看了一遍，cmis打得好凶啊。big cong
！将近250k啊。 | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 6 Big Con.. 赢这种大比赛不容易.. 技术运气都要过硬.. 一生一次的机会你抓住了.. 赫赫.. | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 7 ft, you crow mouth, lol.
赫赫..
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Big Con.. 赢这种大比赛不容易.. 技术运气都要过硬.. 一生一次的机会你抓住了.. 赫赫..
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 8 ft, 世界上中彩票2次的人都有好几个呢，这个比彩票的运气还是要少多了
赫赫..
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Big Con.. 赢这种大比赛不容易.. 技术运气都要过硬.. 一生一次的机会你抓住了.. 赫赫..
| f******n
发帖数: 33 | 9 hehe, changed M+, let's re this one to top 10.
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: ft, 世界上中彩票2次的人都有好几个呢，这个比彩票的运气还是要少多了
:
: 赫赫..
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 10 靠.. 太空了..lol...
【在 f******n 的大作中提到】
: hehe, changed M+, let's re this one to top 10.
| | | W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 11 我觉得要上top 10, 应把title 改成,"我是如何在5小时里挣了22万刀".. 好象更吸引
眼球..
【在 f******n 的大作中提到】
: hehe, changed M+, let's re this one to top 10.
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 12 打倒标题党，干脆改成“这周末22万美元跟白捡的似的”，呵呵。
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得要上top 10, 应把title 改成,"我是如何在5小时里挣了22万刀".. 好象更吸引
: 眼球..
| p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 13 手把手教你如何挖第一桶金，一个周末赚足22万美金！
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 打倒标题党，干脆改成“这周末22万美元跟白捡的似的”，呵呵。
| f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 14 不偷不抢不坐台，22万美金网上来。
【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 手把手教你如何挖第一桶金，一个周末赚足22万美金！
| c****1
发帖数: 457 | 15 哈，谢谢大家，用不着re到10大。写的太技术了，没多少人爱看的。有你们这帮朋友在
这给我喊喊我就很happy了。经人介绍来这个版后，看了不少技术贴，学了不少东西，
你们说话也挺逗的，感觉很开心， 比在pocketfive混要有意思多了。
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 先顶后看。
: cmis91，俺替你把标题改成中文的了，并请求站方帮助置顶，希望更多人能注意到，吸
: 引人气。
: 再次祝贺！
:
: out.
: the
: luck
: ’s
| p**********1
发帖数: 1458 | 16 Congratulations. very very impressive, and more importantly very very
aggressive.
I need to up my aggression a lot. for instance, late in tournaments (about
14-20 players left), I fold A3o at SB with m=5 12bb to CO/chip leader's 3x
open-raise instead of shoving, knowing the guy open at least 2 to 3 times
per orbit and I am probably ahead. And flat-calling with KQo at BB with
m=4 10bb to 2xbb open-raise and sb's calling behind, instead of shoving. I
need to close the lobby and forget about payout structure, start re-
stealing and shoving. | n**********d
发帖数: 270 | 17 Two thumbs up.... What a showing and great technical ananlysis. I've learned
a lot following this board. Keep it up, Da Niu!
Ps: do you guys know if FTP/PS can be installed on IMac? | c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 18 Yes. I am playing FTP/PS on mac | R******g
发帖数: 999 | | s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 20 Great play and nice win. You are running the table.
As I say before, at HU, PS prefer pair to two overcards. FTP prefers two
overcards to pair. | | | c****1
发帖数: 457 | 21 那是有点太tight了。不过你也要做好心理准备，你shove是没有fold equity的，他肯
定call，然后你一般也就60%的赢面，所以5次里面赢三次。没拼过的话心态一定要好。
short stack就是要gamble。
【在 p**********1 的大作中提到】
: Congratulations. very very impressive, and more importantly very very
: aggressive.
: I need to up my aggression a lot. for instance, late in tournaments (about
: 14-20 players left), I fold A3o at SB with m=5 12bb to CO/chip leader's 3x
: open-raise instead of shoving, knowing the guy open at least 2 to 3 times
: per orbit and I am probably ahead. And flat-calling with KQo at BB with
: m=4 10bb to 2xbb open-raise and sb's calling behind, instead of shoving. I
: need to close the lobby and forget about payout structure, start re-
: stealing and shoving.
| W********m
发帖数: 7793 | | f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 23 not for you regulars, hehe, MM.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: fryqueen, 回过了还要RE吗?
| g****8
发帖数: 2828 | | m*z
发帖数: 2356 | | y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 26 That jj VS 88 hand, I guess you should Cbet it.
The board is 9TK, he could have TJ, 89, TQ, KQ, all can call your CBET. You
can not get value on the later street if the board goes ugly. If you get
check raised, you should fold, that is it.
out.
the
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 那是有点太tight了。不过你也要做好心理准备，你shove是没有fold equity的，他肯
: 定call，然后你一般也就60%的赢面，所以5次里面赢三次。没拼过的话心态一定要好。
: short stack就是要gamble。
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 27 Your Aj 4bet allin hand is the best hand there. From his style, if he has AQ
or 88+, he will call your allin for sure.
out.
the
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 那是有点太tight了。不过你也要做好心理准备，你shove是没有fold equity的，他肯
: 定call，然后你一般也就60%的赢面，所以5次里面赢三次。没拼过的话心态一定要好。
: short stack就是要gamble。
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 28 The guy who bluffs you with A3o have been in sunday million FT before.
The guy who has finished 2nd has been FT sunday million before also.
out.
the
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 那是有点太tight了。不过你也要做好心理准备，你shove是没有fold equity的，他肯
: 定call，然后你一般也就60%的赢面，所以5次里面赢三次。没拼过的话心态一定要好。
: short stack就是要gamble。
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 29 That 68hh vs QTss hand, the guy does not push because of ICM factor.
Similar is your Q5 vs K9hh on ace high board, K9hh folds his flush to your
4bet because of ICM factor also.
You played perfectly on the FT
out.
the
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 那是有点太tight了。不过你也要做好心理准备，你shove是没有fold equity的，他肯
: 定call，然后你一般也就60%的赢面，所以5次里面赢三次。没拼过的话心态一定要好。
: short stack就是要gamble。
| A*******u
发帖数: 66 | 30 哈哈，你终于公开了啊，再次祝贺！！以后更创佳绩~~
out.
the
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 那是有点太tight了。不过你也要做好心理准备，你shove是没有fold equity的，他肯
: 定call，然后你一般也就60%的赢面，所以5次里面赢三次。没拼过的话心态一定要好。
: short stack就是要gamble。
| | | w**********y
发帖数: 1691 | | c****1
发帖数: 457 | 32 yeah, after some thoughts, now i am more towards c-bet. if check-raised,
fold.
at that time, it was hard to lay down JJ
You
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: That jj VS 88 hand, I guess you should Cbet it.
: The board is 9TK, he could have TJ, 89, TQ, KQ, all can call your CBET. You
: can not get value on the later street if the board goes ugly. If you get
: check raised, you should fold, that is it.
:
: out.
: the
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 33 Majority of time he will have those value hands which do not need to check
raise you, they will just call.
If they do have a made hand, they may check raise you, you apparently need
fold.
Worst thing is that he has air, and try to blow you off the hand. But what
can you do.
I guess check there is also fine. The bad thing is that you can not get any
value if your hand is the best, or let worst hand to catch up.
Because you have the position, I personally inclined to C-Bet. Plus if they
do have KQ there, they will not value bet on the river, if the board goes
ugly.
If you c-bet, and he calls, and the board goes ugly, he bets out, you need
to fold with discipline. I am a kind of station, I probably will pay him a
lot of chips in that scenario. But on that river, you do not beat much, just
a bluff catcher.
Cannot goal oriented, I think your check is fine there also. [I will do the same, because at the time we are new to the final table.] Recently, I
have a lot of such hands, I have jj, flop Q89, yeah, they have 89 always. I
c-bet, they check raise me, I forget I still have the fold btn.
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: yeah, after some thoughts, now i am more towards c-bet. if check-raised,
: fold.
: at that time, it was hard to lay down JJ
:
: You
| t*********t
发帖数: 1058 | | t*******n
发帖数: 2319 | 35 Con!
very
went
out.
I
the
to
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: yeah, after some thoughts, now i am more towards c-bet. if check-raised,
: fold.
: at that time, it was hard to lay down JJ
:
: You
| a*****e
发帖数: 16445 | | S******s
发帖数: 5376 | 37 牛掰
关键时刻还是能忽悠住
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 那是有点太tight了。不过你也要做好心理准备，你shove是没有fold equity的，他肯
: 定call，然后你一般也就60%的赢面，所以5次里面赢三次。没拼过的话心态一定要好。
: short stack就是要gamble。
| S*********e
发帖数: 865 | 38 不太看得懂，我要是QhTh flop直接 c/r all in 了
Kh9h那把不知道。
最令我惊奇的是那个66还有11个bb，call from btn，and call cmis's 44 raise
about half of his stack, if he cannot hit 6, he only have 5bb left.
very
went
I
to
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: That 68hh vs QTss hand, the guy does not push because of ICM factor.
: Similar is your Q5 vs K9hh on ace high board, K9hh folds his flush to your
: 4bet because of ICM factor also.
: You played perfectly on the FT
:
: out.
: the
| g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 39 very nice job!! my dream accomplishment...
out.
the
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: yeah, after some thoughts, now i am more towards c-bet. if check-raised,
: fold.
: at that time, it was hard to lay down JJ
:
: You
| a*******t
发帖数: 414 | | | | s*******t
发帖数: 638 | 41 有希望每个月?每年搞一次25万?
quit工作专门打扑克.呵呵
out.
the
luck
’s
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: yeah, after some thoughts, now i am more towards c-bet. if check-raised,
: fold.
: at that time, it was hard to lay down JJ
:
: You
| y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 42 不太看得懂，我要是QhTh flop直接 c/r all in 了 | y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 43 不太看得懂，我要是QhTh flop直接 c/r all in 了 | c****1
发帖数: 457 | 44 很有道理
any
they
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: Majority of time he will have those value hands which do not need to check
: raise you, they will just call.
: If they do have a made hand, they may check raise you, you apparently need
: fold.
: Worst thing is that he has air, and try to blow you off the hand. But what
: can you do.
: I guess check there is also fine. The bad thing is that you can not get any
: value if your hand is the best, or let worst hand to catch up.
: Because you have the position, I personally inclined to C-Bet. Plus if they
: do have KQ there, they will not value bet on the river, if the board goes
| S*********e
发帖数: 865 | 45 make sense
stack
still
【在 y********n 的大作中提到】
: 不太看得懂，我要是QhTh flop直接 c/r all in 了
| L****n
发帖数: 490 | 46 Cong again.
很有启发。感觉cash 和tournament 很不一样。自己cash game 打得不少，但是，打起
tournament， 还是fish。 | g**s
发帖数: 1114 | 47 re this... LOL
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 不偷不抢不坐台，22万美金网上来。
| H****r
发帖数: 2801 | 48 很好！ 很强大！
out.
the
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 很有道理
:
: any
: they
| D*****A
发帖数: 551 | | h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 50 赞啊
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 先顶后看。
: cmis91，俺替你把标题改成中文的了，并请求站方帮助置顶，希望更多人能注意到，吸
: 引人气。
: 再次祝贺！
:
: out.
: the
: luck
: ’s
| | | P******o
发帖数: 37 | | t*********d
发帖数: 3398 | 52 太牛了， 瞻仰大牛!
very
went
out.
I
the
to
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 很有道理
:
: any
: they
| a***e
发帖数: 1423 | 53 re
out.
the
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 很有道理
:
: any
: they
| s******g
发帖数: 553 | | p*******e
发帖数: 933 | 55 re
out.
the
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 很有道理
:
: any
: they
| l*****y
发帖数: 307 | 56 re
out.
the
【在 c****1 的大作中提到】
: 很有道理
:
: any
: they
| j******i
发帖数: 561 | | l*******9
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发帖数: 342 | 59 re包子
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发帖数: 896 | | | | l*****g
发帖数: 557 | 61 CONG
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发帖数: 752 | 62 re
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发帖数: 1416 | | e***e
发帖数: 1040 | | a*****0
发帖数: 836 | 65 cong!
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发帖数: 644 | 66 re baozi
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发帖数: 154 | | s******5
发帖数: 1332 | | d*********0
发帖数: 143 | | s********d
发帖数: 93 | | | | g**n
发帖数: 25142 | | y*********8
发帖数: 2820 | | c****o
发帖数: 162 | | i******4
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发帖数: 7014 | 75 //cong!!!!
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发帖数: 4282 | | h*******n
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