f*****g
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 2 Re: 这牌有点难打
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】
: 让你Y的3.5x pre with Jd8d。
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 3 if the donks want to go all in preflop, you can not stop them even if you
try.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Re: 这牌有点难打
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 4 tough spot in tourney too sometimes.. lol... donks never quit making their donk move. |
n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 5 不要赢了别人就是donk... 这牌那两个人都没什么问题吧
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: if the donks want to go all in preflop, you can not stop them even if you
: try.
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 6 pocket 10s is clearly a donk... AK is marginal, but understandable.
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 不要赢了别人就是donk... 这牌那两个人都没什么问题吧
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 7 1，他是short stacker
2，他的%比ak好
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: pocket 10s is clearly a donk... AK is marginal, but understandable.
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 8 this is incorrect. Ak probably is the only hand that he is ahead at this
spot in reraise range. He is rarely good at this spot especially after i
called reraise.
utg limp and call 16X reraise, i would put him on a very strong hand instantly. Some guy did exactly the same thing yesterday with pocket As utg
He limped utg, i have pocket Ks so i raised to 5X, some donk reraise to 14X with pocket 10s, and utg flat. i reraised all in. both called... another donk with dangrous pocket 10s.. flop with a
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 1，他是short stacker
: 2，他的%比ak好
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 9 我从这手牌上看只能说你运气好，拿到了AA 别人同时也不错的牌，flop对你也有利
instantly. Some guy did exactly the same thing yesterday with pocket As and
I shoved with pocket Ks.. luckily river was a K.. hahah..
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: this is incorrect. Ak probably is the only hand that he is ahead at this
: spot in reraise range. He is rarely good at this spot especially after i
: called reraise.
: utg limp and call 16X reraise, i would put him on a very strong hand instantly. Some guy did exactly the same thing yesterday with pocket As utg
: He limped utg, i have pocket Ks so i raised to 5X, some donk reraise to 14X with pocket 10s, and utg flat. i reraised all in. both called... another donk with dangrous pocket 10s.. flop with a
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 10 yes this hand, i am lucky.. not because that they have strong hand when I am
holding As, but because there is a donk in the pot pushing the action.
Luck is fair to everyone. One of the things to separate winner and loser is
whether you will lose your whole stack holding pocket 10s when you face
strong preflop action. This is not even close to a tough fold.
Knowing how to make a good lay down is far more important than knowing how
to play the nuts in microstake poker.
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 11 我看了你post的link，你打的太tight了。。。 呵呵 55set那把action不知道什么样，
preflop居然没all in
am
is
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: yes this hand, i am lucky.. not because that they have strong hand when I am
: holding As, but because there is a donk in the pot pushing the action.
: Luck is fair to everyone. One of the things to separate winner and loser is
: whether you will lose your whole stack holding pocket 10s when you face
: strong preflop action. This is not even close to a tough fold.
: Knowing how to make a good lay down is far more important than knowing how
: to play the nuts in microstake poker.
: http://www.mitbbs.com/articl
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 12 怪不得我不能赢钱呢，原来我就是你眼中的donk ...
am
is
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: yes this hand, i am lucky.. not because that they have strong hand when I am
: holding As, but because there is a donk in the pot pushing the action.
: Luck is fair to everyone. One of the things to separate winner and loser is
: whether you will lose your whole stack holding pocket 10s when you face
: strong preflop action. This is not even close to a tough fold.
: Knowing how to make a good lay down is far more important than knowing how
: to play the nuts in microstake poker.
: http://www.mitbbs.com/articl
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 13 folding a hand drawing dead is tight? ^_^
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 我看了你post的link，你打的太tight了。。。 呵呵 55set那把action不知道什么样，
: preflop居然没all in
:
: am
: is
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 14 Truth to be told, I want everyone on this board to turn into a winner.
But whether you can do it or not will be entirely depending on your own
discipline. It is not hard to win at microstake poker. If you can't do it
then you are still not good enough. Tighten uping with your pocket 10s
preflop is probably the first step towards success.
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 怪不得我不能赢钱呢，原来我就是你眼中的donk ...
:
: am
: is
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s*********k
发帖数: 1989 | 15 Donk is not allowed here, according to Fryking.
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 不要赢了别人就是donk... 这牌那两个人都没什么问题吧
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 16 不能从结果往前推..
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: folding a hand drawing dead is tight? ^_^
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 17 嗯,我曾经tight过,现在非常loose...
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: Truth to be told, I want everyone on this board to turn into a winner.
: But whether you can do it or not will be entirely depending on your own
: discipline. It is not hard to win at microstake poker. If you can't do it
: then you are still not good enough. Tighten uping with your pocket 10s
: preflop is probably the first step towards success.
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 18 what do you mean? i folded at the spot where exactly I was drawing dead or
max two outers?
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 不能从结果往前推..
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 19 KK那把preflop怎么打的？ 你flat call with kk？
QQ那把如果KK是AK也会这么打啊， 那你就是favorite了啊
or
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: what do you mean? i folded at the spot where exactly I was drawing dead or
: max two outers?
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 20 btw, i am aggressive too when I got a read look at this hand..
what do you do with someone with 10% reraise rate over 100 hand?
You call preflop 3 bet and raise even if you missed the flop.. selectively
aggressive is what i would call.. ^_^
bless HM. it will increase my winrate now I have their data.. Donks, i am
coming to bust you.. lol
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 嗯,我曾经tight过,现在非常loose...
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 21 4bet啊，按照你的理论，这个board他很容易hit到的
你minraise他fold了，只能说你的AQ是best hand 他是good fold，你miss了value...
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: btw, i am aggressive too when I got a read look at this hand..
: what do you do with someone with 10% reraise rate over 100 hand?
: You call preflop 3 bet and raise even if you missed the flop.. selectively
: aggressive is what i would call.. ^_^
: bless HM. it will increase my winrate now I have their data.. Donks, i am
: coming to bust you.. lol
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 22 QQ is preflop someone raise 4X then another guy raise 12X. I folded without
even calling. It is clearly shove or fold to me because the guy EP is very
strong as well and he will shove most likely.
I put them the raiser on KK+, EP is unknown but strong. There is no point to
be a hero here. I am either agaisnt AK which is coin flip or i am drawing
dead.. it is an easy lay down for me to catch a better spot. Tight? yes, but
with a read.
KK hand might be marginal how I played preflop. But I have a r
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: KK那把preflop怎么打的？ 你flat call with kk？
: QQ那把如果KK是AK也会这么打啊， 那你就是favorite了啊
:
: or
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 23 你不能每次都猜别人是AA KK ... 2你limp KK 不就是为了reraise么。。
without
to
but
KK
he
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: QQ is preflop someone raise 4X then another guy raise 12X. I folded without
: even calling. It is clearly shove or fold to me because the guy EP is very
: strong as well and he will shove most likely.
: I put them the raiser on KK+, EP is unknown but strong. There is no point to
: be a hero here. I am either agaisnt AK which is coin flip or i am drawing
: dead.. it is an easy lay down for me to catch a better spot. Tight? yes, but
: with a read.
: KK hand might be marginal how I played preflop. But I have a r
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 24 how do i miss value? i got one more bet out of him. If he raise with trash,
he will fold to big 4 bet or he will have a much tighter range. I call his
preflop but raise him OTF with anything. There is no way he could continue.
Even if he has a small pair of some sort, i still got 6 outs.
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 4bet啊，按照你的理论，这个board他很容易hit到的
: 你minraise他fold了，只能说你的AQ是best hand 他是good fold，你miss了value...
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 25 还是不懂你minraise的目的，既不for value raise size也不能让marginal hand fold
敌人那么loose如果有pair 肯定会shove的，反正我会put你在bluff 或者 flush
draw
,
his
continue.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: how do i miss value? i got one more bet out of him. If he raise with trash,
: he will fold to big 4 bet or he will have a much tighter range. I call his
: preflop but raise him OTF with anything. There is no way he could continue.
: Even if he has a small pair of some sort, i still got 6 outs.
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 26 I am not, but i do put them on a very strong range like KK+, which does not
make my call preflop profitable with QQ for the first hand.
2nd hand is a little tough because his raise size and so many people in. I
know he has a strong hand (i was correct). I don't want to commit myself
before i know what i am up against. with 3 people in with 1.75$, i probably
need to raise to 7-8$ range to be effective which put me committed already.
I had 100bb. If he is only one in, then i will probably reraise
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 你不能每次都猜别人是AA KK ... 2你limp KK 不就是为了reraise么。。
:
: without
: to
: but
: KK
: he
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 27 semi bluff against a wide range. He is out of position, give the problem to him since he wants to raise me with trash. I highly doubt he could call me with a small pair and such. if he has totally air then I got one more pot size bets out of him.
fold
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 还是不懂你minraise的目的，既不for value raise size也不能让marginal hand fold
: 敌人那么loose如果有pair 肯定会shove的，反正我会put你在bluff 或者 flush
: draw
:
: ,
: his
: continue.
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 28 不就3个人么，你不raise 如果flop有A 你会很难受啊
not
probably
.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I am not, but i do put them on a very strong range like KK+, which does not
: make my call preflop profitable with QQ for the first hand.
: 2nd hand is a little tough because his raise size and so many people in. I
: know he has a strong hand (i was correct). I don't want to commit myself
: before i know what i am up against. with 3 people in with 1.75$, i probably
: need to raise to 7-8$ range to be effective which put me committed already.
: I had 100bb. If he is only one in, then i will probably reraise
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 29 sb bb called too after his raise.. action to me with 1 raiser and 2 caller.
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 不就3个人么，你不raise 如果flop有A 你会很难受啊
:
: not
: probably
: .
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 30 那更改raise了啊，sb bb call 的都是死钱了 你ck等于拿kk去给别人draw out你的
odds..
.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: sb bb called too after his raise.. action to me with 1 raiser and 2 caller.
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 31 这个人确实挺傻的，bluff 已经show了strength tight player
to him since he wants to raise me with trash. I highly doubt he could call
me with a small pair and such. if he has totally air then I got one more
pot size bets out of him.
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: semi bluff against a wide range. He is out of position, give the problem to him since he wants to raise me with trash. I highly doubt he could call me with a small pair and such. if he has totally air then I got one more pot size bets out of him.
:
: fold
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 32 I agree,raise might be better here. .My preflop action is marginal, but like
I said because the other guys raise size, I chose a much conservative way
of playing. I trust my read and he could well have pocket As. I don't want
to over extend myself before I am certain.
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 那更改raise了啊，sb bb call 的都是死钱了 你ck等于拿kk去给别人draw out你的
: odds..
:
: .
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 33 嗯，我应该向你学习，我总是觉得别人都在play action on me ..
like
want
【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: I agree,raise might be better here. .My preflop action is marginal, but like
: I said because the other guys raise size, I chose a much conservative way
: of playing. I trust my read and he could well have pocket As. I don't want
: to over extend myself before I am certain.
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 34 That's actually how a donk thinks :)
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 嗯，我应该向你学习，我总是觉得别人都在play action on me ..
:
: like
: want
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n******1
发帖数: 4742 | 35 你骂人。。办了办了
【在 h*******s 的大作中提到】
: That's actually how a donk thinks :)
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 36 donk其实也是一种打法。。不是说要在桌上做别人怕的player吗？donk其实大家都怕。。
【在 n******1 的大作中提到】
: 你骂人。。办了办了
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