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TexasHoldem版 - limp in AA and play like a fool does pay off
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W********m
发帖数: 7793
1
preflop limp utg. I call.
after flop $50c i raise to 1.50$
turn bets 75c and i raise to 3$
river he bets 75c. i call..
knew river is beat.. but i have to pay to see for the cheap price.
p*******p
发帖数: 13670
2
your raise is too small了呀

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: preflop limp utg. I call.
: after flop $50c i raise to 1.50$
: turn bets 75c and i raise to 3$
: river he bets 75c. i call..
: knew river is beat.. but i have to pay to see for the cheap price.

W********m
发帖数: 7793
3
i wonder whether he will call if i raise to pot again river. he probably
will because fish has got a pair of rockets.
p*******p
发帖数: 13670
4
你raise pot at river, 他不call才是donk呢, he only lose to case T here,
unless it's a very very big over bet, like 10 times of pot size, i will call
river too,hehe

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: i wonder whether he will call if i raise to pot again river. he probably
: will because fish has got a pair of rockets.

W********m
发帖数: 7793
5
i agree.. therefore I just called knowing that i am beat. No hand would not
have me beat with the river 10 after he called my 2 raises except maybe flopped striaght.
but i like my raising size flop and turn.. i never want to lose value on
those hand that are drawing dead.

call

【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 你raise pot at river, 他不call才是donk呢, he only lose to case T here,
: unless it's a very very big over bet, like 10 times of pot size, i will call
: river too,hehe

p*******p
发帖数: 13670
6
no, raise more 不是为了让他fold,而是get more money in, 这样,river如果不是T
counterfeit 你的set,你就可以all in他而不显得过于overbet

not
flopped striaght.

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: i agree.. therefore I just called knowing that i am beat. No hand would not
: have me beat with the river 10 after he called my 2 raises except maybe flopped striaght.
: but i like my raising size flop and turn.. i never want to lose value on
: those hand that are drawing dead.
:
: call

p*******p
发帖数: 13670
7
我今天有一手AKs, button raise, SB call
flop
A76, 2 flush
我bet 2/3, SB raise 3X,我call
turn another A, SB 2/3 pot 我call了
river blank, SB allin,我知道很有可能他77or66,不过pot odds2.5:1, how can I
fold,

【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: no, raise more 不是为了让他fold,而是get more money in, 这样,river如果不是T
: counterfeit 你的set,你就可以all in他而不显得过于overbet
:
: not
: flopped striaght.

W********m
发帖数: 7793
8
This is to assume that he will call... yes if he calls you get as much $$ in
the pot as possible.. but when it is too obvious that you have a set then a
lot hands that they won't call.. my raise size is very close to the guy you
mentioned bets. the only issue is that it is a limped pot preflop for me
therefore i can't get to all in river.. but i am still pretty close if i
raise to pot river.

【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: no, raise more 不是为了让他fold,而是get more money in, 这样,river如果不是T
: counterfeit 你的set,你就可以all in他而不显得过于overbet
:
: not
: flopped striaght.

t*********d
发帖数: 3398
9
昨天有把类似的, 我是call的那个。
I had QQ UTG and open raised 3x bb, all folded to big blinds who called.
Flop 57J rainbow, big blinds checked, I bet 4bb and big blinds mini raised
to 8bb, I called. Turn 7, big linds checked, I checked. River 7, big blinds
bet 6bb and I called. He showed 55.

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: preflop limp utg. I call.
: after flop $50c i raise to 1.50$
: turn bets 75c and i raise to 3$
: river he bets 75c. i call..
: knew river is beat.. but i have to pay to see for the cheap price.

W********m
发帖数: 7793
10
calling this hand might be ok.. 77 66 are possible.. he might just do this
with AQ as well, unlikely but possible. especially when paired A on the
board he could believe that you don't have an A. or weaker A and you will
call with AJ A10 A9 etc considering your flat raise and bet flop and turn.

【在 p*******p 的大作中提到】
: 我今天有一手AKs, button raise, SB call
: flop
: A76, 2 flush
: 我bet 2/3, SB raise 3X,我call
: turn another A, SB 2/3 pot 我call了
: river blank, SB allin,我知道很有可能他77or66,不过pot odds2.5:1, how can I
: fold,

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T*********k
发帖数: 1621
11
Now I just don't limp in AA preflop. Even you limp in in early position, you
don't gain much compared to raise. Too much risk that some opponents hit
the flop good, then you have a tough decision to decide how much you want to
involved before you get rid of your AA.
Say a guy see the flop and raise you like crazy, you will have a tough time
to decide if he really have a set, two pairs or just a top pair with good
kicker.
AA, KK, AK usually win small pot and when they lose, they lose big.
I have
W********m
发帖数: 7793
12
fish 阿..after miniraise flop he just cant check turn. what does he expect
you to do? POT turn? He pretty much killed action with miniraise and still passive and hope you bet. either call flop raise big turn or raise flop and lead
bets 2/3pot turn at least... river is ok.

blinds

【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 昨天有把类似的, 我是call的那个。
: I had QQ UTG and open raised 3x bb, all folded to big blinds who called.
: Flop 57J rainbow, big blinds checked, I bet 4bb and big blinds mini raised
: to 8bb, I called. Turn 7, big linds checked, I checked. River 7, big blinds
: bet 6bb and I called. He showed 55.

t*********d
发帖数: 3398
13
他或者想再 来个check raise? 或者怕我有pocket Js?
我现在打的很保守, flop top set的时候我才搞all in, bottom set or middle set
, 不会搞太狠, 不然一输就输很多。

still passive and hope you bet. either call flop raise big turn or raise
flop and lead

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: fish 阿..after miniraise flop he just cant check turn. what does he expect
: you to do? POT turn? He pretty much killed action with miniraise and still passive and hope you bet. either call flop raise big turn or raise flop and lead
: bets 2/3pot turn at least... river is ok.
:
: blinds

W********m
发帖数: 7793
14
It all depends on your read. I have fold AA turn when some one lead pot.. i
have also raise with AA all in when someone bets turn pot.. Different
situation different action.

set

【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 他或者想再 来个check raise? 或者怕我有pocket Js?
: 我现在打的很保守, flop top set的时候我才搞all in, bottom set or middle set
: , 不会搞太狠, 不然一输就输很多。
:
: still passive and hope you bet. either call flop raise big turn or raise
: flop and lead

W********m
发帖数: 7793
15
why scared of Js? your flat miniraise is one way to say that you are pretty
weak. would you at least miniraise back with set of J? or big raise back like 3X

set

【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 他或者想再 来个check raise? 或者怕我有pocket Js?
: 我现在打的很保守, flop top set的时候我才搞all in, bottom set or middle set
: , 不会搞太狠, 不然一输就输很多。
:
: still passive and hope you bet. either call flop raise big turn or raise
: flop and lead

t*********d
发帖数: 3398
16
其实我说的比较保守, 玩起来也不是那么保守
今天早上
Villain: 80bb @ UTG
Me: 160bb @big blinds with 45o
Villain limped in at UTG, all folded to me.
Flop 45J rainbow, I checked, villain bet 2bb and I mini raised to 4bb,
villain re-raised to 8bb, I called. Turn 5, I bet 15bb and villain raised to
32bb, I thought for a while and shoved with 100+bb. villain called. River
blank.
Villain showed QQ.
一条不折不扣的鱼啊。
turn的时候只有JJ是唯一能大过我的牌, 但是很少见人用JJ在UTG limp in, 所以我判
断他是QQ+, 只有两个outs, 所以在turn shove了。
我现在的原则是, 如果判定我在flop 或者turn是nuts, 我会

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: It all depends on your read. I have fold AA turn when some one lead pot.. i
: have also raise with AA all in when someone bets turn pot.. Different
: situation different action.
:
: set

t*********d
发帖数: 3398
17
打牌是要变化的, 我拿到JJ当然可以flat他的mini raise了, 看情况, 有nuts在
flop不用太着急, 还有turn能够bet呢。

pretty
like 3X

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: why scared of Js? your flat miniraise is one way to say that you are pretty
: weak. would you at least miniraise back with set of J? or big raise back like 3X
:
: set

W********m
发帖数: 7793
18
great.. pretty much what i said.

to

【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 其实我说的比较保守, 玩起来也不是那么保守
: 今天早上
: Villain: 80bb @ UTG
: Me: 160bb @big blinds with 45o
: Villain limped in at UTG, all folded to me.
: Flop 45J rainbow, I checked, villain bet 2bb and I mini raised to 4bb,
: villain re-raised to 8bb, I called. Turn 5, I bet 15bb and villain raised to
: 32bb, I thought for a while and shoved with 100+bb. villain called. River
: blank.
: Villain showed QQ.

t*********d
发帖数: 3398
19
说错了, turn有3个outs.

to

【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 其实我说的比较保守, 玩起来也不是那么保守
: 今天早上
: Villain: 80bb @ UTG
: Me: 160bb @big blinds with 45o
: Villain limped in at UTG, all folded to me.
: Flop 45J rainbow, I checked, villain bet 2bb and I mini raised to 4bb,
: villain re-raised to 8bb, I called. Turn 5, I bet 15bb and villain raised to
: 32bb, I thought for a while and shoved with 100+bb. villain called. River
: blank.
: Villain showed QQ.

W********m
发帖数: 7793
20
no need to use your tricky here. he has something he likes and you have got
the nuts.. raise big and take his whole stack.. what to wait? wait for a
scary card to kill action for both? Unless of course you guys already have more than half of your stack in.. then slow play it to the core.. milk his last bit of stack

【在 t*********d 的大作中提到】
: 打牌是要变化的, 我拿到JJ当然可以flat他的mini raise了, 看情况, 有nuts在
: flop不用太着急, 还有turn能够bet呢。
:
: pretty
: like 3X

W********m
发帖数: 7793
21
if you always think people are slow playing your middle set with top set..
这牌没法打了.. got set of 5.. miniraised flop and someone flat.. pot turn...
if he has got top set.. he will let you know... he he call turn and river is a blank.. all in river.. simple

got
have more than half of your stack in.. then slow play it to the core.. milk
his last bit of stack

【在 W********m 的大作中提到】
: no need to use your tricky here. he has something he likes and you have got
: the nuts.. raise big and take his whole stack.. what to wait? wait for a
: scary card to kill action for both? Unless of course you guys already have more than half of your stack in.. then slow play it to the core.. milk his last bit of stack

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