i********r 发帖数: 1153 | 1 i've ever read is something like this:
every time it's your turn to act, it's an opportunity for you to make a
perfect decision. |
m******1 发帖数: 715 | 2 what is a perfection decision? judged by the end result of each hand? |
i********r 发帖数: 1153 | 3 my understanding:
the first level perfect decision is the decision you would make if you can
see your opponent's hole cards.the 2nd level perfect decision is the
decision you would make if you know your opponent's hole cards as well as
his/her thinking process.the 3rd level perfect decision is the decision you
would make if you know your opponent's card range as well as his/her
thinking process.
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】 : what is a perfection decision? judged by the end result of each hand?
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f*****g 发帖数: 15860 | 4 well, it's all about how many mistakes you make and avoid to make, compared
to your opponent's.
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】 : i've ever read is something like this: : every time it's your turn to act, it's an opportunity for you to make a : perfect decision.
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i********r 发帖数: 1153 | 5 the point is you should cherish every opportunity when it's your turn to act
. don't autopilot, don't do something just because you can or feel like
doing it. think hard. think for a reason. try very hard to play perfect
poker.
compared
【在 f*****g 的大作中提到】 : well, it's all about how many mistakes you make and avoid to make, compared : to your opponent's.
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m******1 发帖数: 715 | 6 good advice, indeed.
autopilot is not all bad. just as in your notes "If you step up I'll lay it
, if you step back I'll trey it." It is very effective against certain
players in certain conditions. It saves your energy :)
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c****u 发帖数: 3277 | 7 well, IMO, poker is actually a random game, with incomplete information.
So often, there are many different ways to play a hand and they can all
be right...
scored or assisted by McGrady; in Game 7 all but nine were.
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】 : i've ever read is something like this: : every time it's your turn to act, it's an opportunity for you to make a : perfect decision.
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w***w 发帖数: 6301 | 8 Assume a 3 players table, playerA only bet or call when he has a playable
hand.
PlayerB bet 2BB on flop every time no matter what hand he has, as long as
others don't bet.
Which player play better? |
i********r 发帖数: 1153 | 9 what about player C?
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】 : Assume a 3 players table, playerA only bet or call when he has a playable : hand. : PlayerB bet 2BB on flop every time no matter what hand he has, as long as : others don't bet. : Which player play better?
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w***w 发帖数: 6301 | 10 I assume playerA is normal so playerC play as playerA.
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】 : what about player C?
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i********r 发帖数: 1153 | 11 you didn't define postflop play ah. It really depends on how they continue
after the bet is called.
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】 : I assume playerA is normal so playerC play as playerA.
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w***w 发帖数: 6301 | 12 I assume playerA and playerC don't call if they don't have a playable hand.
When they call, it depend on all 3 players' skill of confrontation.But
playerB get an edge on the other two's fold when they don't have playable
hands.
So here are two styles:
1. Play when a player has a playable hand;
2. Play assuming other players don't have playable hands until otherwise
prove wrong.
So playerB win when other players don't have playable hands, and lose when
they do and beat playB.As long as playerB's |
i********r 发帖数: 1153 | 13 definition of playable hand is not universal neither. I feel 75s on button
is definitely a playable hand, but not to a tight player.
but yeah, a very tight player will lose lots of blinds to a loose aggressive
player. however, in no-limit game a skilled tight player can still overcome
that, losing lots of blinds but win big pots back. imo postflop skill is
way more important than preflop.
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】 : I assume playerA and playerC don't call if they don't have a playable hand. : When they call, it depend on all 3 players' skill of confrontation.But : playerB get an edge on the other two's fold when they don't have playable : hands. : So here are two styles: : 1. Play when a player has a playable hand; : 2. Play assuming other players don't have playable hands until otherwise : prove wrong. : So playerB win when other players don't have playable hands, and lose when : they do and beat playB.As long as playerB's
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w***w 发帖数: 6301 | 14 "skilled tight player":
A tight player is easy to read: whenever he plays he get something big in
hand. |
i********r 发帖数: 1153 | 15 that's tight straightforward player. hehe
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】 : "skilled tight player": : A tight player is easy to read: whenever he plays he get something big in : hand.
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l******n 发帖数: 641 | 16 the thing is you don't lose anything except blinds, unless you get something
. so fireworks only happen when sth meets sth.
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】 : "skilled tight player": : A tight player is easy to read: whenever he plays he get something big in : hand.
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w***w 发帖数: 6301 | 17 So by your definition, I could be a tight player.
【在 i********r 的大作中提到】 : that's tight straightforward player. hehe
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i********r 发帖数: 1153 | 18 nothing wrong with being tight, just different styles.
one of the best online pro, jman28, is pretty tight compared to others.
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】 : So by your definition, I could be a tight player.
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w***w 发帖数: 6301 | 19 I can't discuss further unless I get a clear picture as what kind of player
is called a tight player.
As for blinds, a loss is still a loss, no matter how small it is.If you always
lose blind, it will accumulate.
We have to assume when something meet something, the chance of winning for
each side is still equal. |
l******n 发帖数: 641 | 20 as my understanding, the aggresive player is trying to induce big mistake, i
nstead of just eating the blinds.
actually, as long as he gets called by others, he lost his chips faster than
"tight" player, unless others made mistakes.
ofcs, we assume all players are having similar reading abilities.
player
always
【在 w***w 的大作中提到】 : I can't discuss further unless I get a clear picture as what kind of player : is called a tight player. : As for blinds, a loss is still a loss, no matter how small it is.If you always : lose blind, it will accumulate. : We have to assume when something meet something, the chance of winning for : each side is still equal.
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l******n 发帖数: 641 | 21 one example is the tv show one night,
the poker superstar III final, todd vs magician,
they both down to 1:10 in chips counts once,
but antonio is not that good enough to choose the hands to put all his chips
in and lost.
i
than
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】 : as my understanding, the aggresive player is trying to induce big mistake, i : nstead of just eating the blinds. : actually, as long as he gets called by others, he lost his chips faster than : "tight" player, unless others made mistakes. : ofcs, we assume all players are having similar reading abilities. : : player : always
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w***w 发帖数: 6301 | 22 That kind of player is subpar by my view.
A player raising a lot should know when to fold, or he will lose fast.
As for ability to judge who is ahead in a big battle, IMO, is a borned talent
rather than result of practice.So post flop action more involves read, (
which is more matter of talent), and preflop action more involves tactics.
i
than
【在 l******n 的大作中提到】 : as my understanding, the aggresive player is trying to induce big mistake, i : nstead of just eating the blinds. : actually, as long as he gets called by others, he lost his chips faster than : "tight" player, unless others made mistakes. : ofcs, we assume all players are having similar reading abilities. : : player : always
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