a*****0 发帖数: 6788 | 1 这里不少喜欢重拍用PS85,90的, 有人跳了么?感觉如何? |
f*****n 发帖数: 18176 | |
a*m 发帖数: 6253 | 3 It is totally different racket...
If people previously use 95, they may get used to the 97 quicker.
For people use 90s, i guess they will stay for a while unless they want to
enhance their defense more... |
a*****0 发帖数: 6788 | 4
我的意思是,很多玩85,90的,都是山羊粉。现在山羊都97了,这些人要不跟上岂不是
伪粉。
【在 a*m 的大作中提到】 : It is totally different racket... : If people previously use 95, they may get used to the 97 quicker. : For people use 90s, i guess they will stay for a while unless they want to : enhance their defense more...
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a*m 发帖数: 6253 | 5 嗯,连我都想试试。。。
不过看review,没有特别impressive。。。 |
b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 6 i demo it 2 weeks ago, it felt very similar to my current 6.1 18x20 with a
bigger sweet spot. I'm not blown away with it, maybe because of the string
and tension that came with it. It's definitely is an upgrade to my current
stick. But I will need to demo few more times before I'm convinced.
I'm currently trying to demo Volkl C10 pro, Volkl super G10(325), Babalot
pure control pro. Probably will pick 1 of these 3 and then compare it to the
RF97 to make the final decision. My current racquet is great but it is a
bit more demanding for my skill level. So i'm looking for some thing that's
a bit more forgiving and easier power.
【在 a*m 的大作中提到】 : 嗯,连我都想试试。。。 : 不过看review,没有特别impressive。。。
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d******x 发帖数: 11837 | 7 我有老版的c10 pro感觉和wilson完全两个世界。我觉得很镇手不够solid应该试试上个
剧高磅的全poly也许还行。也许是太软的缘故。我自己的感觉64-67的硬度感觉不错,
往硬里走还可以就是肘子会有麻烦,太软的话容易镇手感觉不太好。。。
babalot根本不考虑。。。
the
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【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : i demo it 2 weeks ago, it felt very similar to my current 6.1 18x20 with a : bigger sweet spot. I'm not blown away with it, maybe because of the string : and tension that came with it. It's definitely is an upgrade to my current : stick. But I will need to demo few more times before I'm convinced. : I'm currently trying to demo Volkl C10 pro, Volkl super G10(325), Babalot : pure control pro. Probably will pick 1 of these 3 and then compare it to the : RF97 to make the final decision. My current racquet is great but it is a : bit more demanding for my skill level. So i'm looking for some thing that's : a bit more forgiving and easier power.
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 8 是吗? 看spec 还不错, 以前曾经用过volkl一段时间, 影响不错。 我不是很喜欢
Wilson的butt cap, 容易坏, 而且削球时,磨得手掌痛。。。
以前我也很不适应Babalot, feel 太不一样。 不过这次这个pure control pro 还不错
, 就是轻了点。 最近用朋友的(added lead tape)打了些game, 感觉很好。
definitely a lot more forgiving. 我的感觉是 6.1 的sweet spot 小, 但非常
sweet; pure control 的sweet spot 大, 但没那么sweet. 最终结论是我的timing,
spacing, positioning, movement, anticipation 还是不够好, 要每次打到6.1的
sweet spot不容易, 所以就得靠器材派了。
【在 d******x 的大作中提到】 : 我有老版的c10 pro感觉和wilson完全两个世界。我觉得很镇手不够solid应该试试上个 : 剧高磅的全poly也许还行。也许是太软的缘故。我自己的感觉64-67的硬度感觉不错, : 往硬里走还可以就是肘子会有麻烦,太软的话容易镇手感觉不太好。。。 : babalot根本不考虑。。。 : : the : s
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d******x 发帖数: 11837 | 9 不是说volkl不好,这个都是个人感觉。我们这里的严大炮就是用volkl呀。
但是和Wilson的感觉非常不同是肯定了。我觉得可以试试不同线的组合。高磅的感觉应
该会好不少。
babolat又硬又宽边看上去就不喜欢直接dump之,嘿嘿。其实我没怎么用过,只用过apd
,一抡一个出界完全没法控制啊,而且手感太差。。。
,
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : 是吗? 看spec 还不错, 以前曾经用过volkl一段时间, 影响不错。 我不是很喜欢 : Wilson的butt cap, 容易坏, 而且削球时,磨得手掌痛。。。 : 以前我也很不适应Babalot, feel 太不一样。 不过这次这个pure control pro 还不错 : , 就是轻了点。 最近用朋友的(added lead tape)打了些game, 感觉很好。 : definitely a lot more forgiving. 我的感觉是 6.1 的sweet spot 小, 但非常 : sweet; pure control 的sweet spot 大, 但没那么sweet. 最终结论是我的timing, : spacing, positioning, movement, anticipation 还是不够好, 要每次打到6.1的 : sweet spot不容易, 所以就得靠器材派了。
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 10 C10 Pro太轻,力量不够。而且太薄,用惯了厚拍的会感觉太飘,不扎实。
不过偶用的是customized过的,12.8 oz, 11 pt HL. 配置太怪了,发球轻松
YTCW.
,
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : 是吗? 看spec 还不错, 以前曾经用过volkl一段时间, 影响不错。 我不是很喜欢 : Wilson的butt cap, 容易坏, 而且削球时,磨得手掌痛。。。 : 以前我也很不适应Babalot, feel 太不一样。 不过这次这个pure control pro 还不错 : , 就是轻了点。 最近用朋友的(added lead tape)打了些game, 感觉很好。 : definitely a lot more forgiving. 我的感觉是 6.1 的sweet spot 小, 但非常 : sweet; pure control 的sweet spot 大, 但没那么sweet. 最终结论是我的timing, : spacing, positioning, movement, anticipation 还是不够好, 要每次打到6.1的 : sweet spot不容易, 所以就得靠器材派了。
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 11 C10 Pro strung weight 12.2oz / 346g; 8 pt HL, 太轻? 我们是说同一个拍子吗?
http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Volkl_C10_Pro/descpageRCVOLKL-C
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : C10 Pro太轻,力量不够。而且太薄,用惯了厚拍的会感觉太飘,不扎实。 : 不过偶用的是customized过的,12.8 oz, 11 pt HL. 配置太怪了,发球轻松 : YTCW. : : ,
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 12 Yes, 这个拍子已经出现了很多年了。每隔几年换个paintjob而已。偶知道的就有
4种PJ.
偶的拍子被人在柄里加重了,所以越发的没力量,12.8 oz, 11 pt HL. 这么头轻的,
一般感觉就是飘,怎么也打不穿对手。
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : C10 Pro strung weight 12.2oz / 346g; 8 pt HL, 太轻? 我们是说同一个拍子吗? : http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Volkl_C10_Pro/descpageRCVOLKL-C
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 13 偶们local craigslist已经有人开始dump了。
【在 a*****0 的大作中提到】 : 这里不少喜欢重拍用PS85,90的, 有人跳了么?感觉如何?
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 14 with these kind of racquet, it's more about racquet head speed.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : Yes, 这个拍子已经出现了很多年了。每隔几年换个paintjob而已。偶知道的就有 : 4种PJ. : 偶的拍子被人在柄里加重了,所以越发的没力量,12.8 oz, 11 pt HL. 这么头轻的, : 一般感觉就是飘,怎么也打不穿对手。
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 15 前主人估计是打双打的,这么搞了确实发球容易了,网前也反应快了。对于偶确完全
没用,要提高力量只能拍头继续加重,可是已经12.8 oz了。只好出手了。
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : with these kind of racquet, it's more about racquet head speed.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 16 偶试了3种不同版本6.1 95,全是16x18的,最后还是明显喜欢PSC6.1,最原始的那一款。
其他两个都是没力量。
问题是PSC 6.1实在是太重了,太demanding了。。。
对6.1 95的总体印象是这种大硬拍不容易ws,比赛只好用暴力打法。
,
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : 是吗? 看spec 还不错, 以前曾经用过volkl一段时间, 影响不错。 我不是很喜欢 : Wilson的butt cap, 容易坏, 而且削球时,磨得手掌痛。。。 : 以前我也很不适应Babalot, feel 太不一样。 不过这次这个pure control pro 还不错 : , 就是轻了点。 最近用朋友的(added lead tape)打了些game, 感觉很好。 : definitely a lot more forgiving. 我的感觉是 6.1 的sweet spot 小, 但非常 : sweet; pure control 的sweet spot 大, 但没那么sweet. 最终结论是我的timing, : spacing, positioning, movement, anticipation 还是不够好, 要每次打到6.1的 : sweet spot不容易, 所以就得靠器材派了。
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 17 另外这个butt cap说的太对了。上次20分钟就全是水泡了。
还是Head好啊。
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【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : 是吗? 看spec 还不错, 以前曾经用过volkl一段时间, 影响不错。 我不是很喜欢 : Wilson的butt cap, 容易坏, 而且削球时,磨得手掌痛。。。 : 以前我也很不适应Babalot, feel 太不一样。 不过这次这个pure control pro 还不错 : , 就是轻了点。 最近用朋友的(added lead tape)打了些game, 感觉很好。 : definitely a lot more forgiving. 我的感觉是 6.1 的sweet spot 小, 但非常 : sweet; pure control 的sweet spot 大, 但没那么sweet. 最终结论是我的timing, : spacing, positioning, movement, anticipation 还是不够好, 要每次打到6.1的 : sweet spot不容易, 所以就得靠器材派了。
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d******x 发帖数: 11837 | 18 怎么他的硬度有63?我记得以前都是58啥的。63应该不错了。
看了TW review他也提到用高磅poly。看来应该试试。
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : C10 Pro strung weight 12.2oz / 346g; 8 pt HL, 太轻? 我们是说同一个拍子吗? : http://www.tennis-warehouse.com/Volkl_C10_Pro/descpageRCVOLKL-C
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d******x 发帖数: 11837 | 19 显然啊,有用psc6.195的扑吗?
款。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : 偶试了3种不同版本6.1 95,全是16x18的,最后还是明显喜欢PSC6.1,最原始的那一款。 : 其他两个都是没力量。 : 问题是PSC 6.1实在是太重了,太demanding了。。。 : 对6.1 95的总体印象是这种大硬拍不容易ws,比赛只好用暴力打法。 : : ,
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 20 嗯, 我看review 都不错, spec也是我喜欢的。。。 不过还是得打了才知道。。。
TW这段日子效率太低, order 了快2星期了, demo 还没到。
【在 d******x 的大作中提到】 : 怎么他的硬度有63?我记得以前都是58啥的。63应该不错了。 : 看了TW review他也提到用高磅poly。看来应该试试。
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 21 head 把柄形状适应不了, VOLKL的柄不错, firm yet soft lol
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : 另外这个butt cap说的太对了。上次20分钟就全是水泡了。 : 还是Head好啊。 : : ,
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 22 C10 Pro的butt cap很好,是软的。特别适合嫩肉型。
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : head 把柄形状适应不了, VOLKL的柄不错, firm yet soft lol
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 23 yes, my palm is as smooth as baby's butt lol
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : C10 Pro的butt cap很好,是软的。特别适合嫩肉型。
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a*m 发帖数: 6253 | 24 你难道不该用tennisexpress么? 隔城速递。。。
。
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : 嗯, 我看review 都不错, spec也是我喜欢的。。。 不过还是得打了才知道。。。 : TW这段日子效率太低, order 了快2星期了, demo 还没到。
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d******x 发帖数: 11837 | 25 是啊,当初我看specs也觉得不错。打起来就感觉不太喜欢。当然也没折腾线就是了。
local应该也有demo的吧?
。
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : 嗯, 我看review 都不错, spec也是我喜欢的。。。 不过还是得打了才知道。。。 : TW这段日子效率太低, order 了快2星期了, demo 还没到。
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 26 Austin local 店不carry VOLKL...
【在 d******x 的大作中提到】 : 是啊,当初我看specs也觉得不错。打起来就感觉不太喜欢。当然也没折腾线就是了。 : local应该也有demo的吧? : : 。
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 27 回 houston 时直接去tennisexpress, 在austin 还是用TW, 习惯了, 而且买鞋这些
不用付税。 :)
【在 a*m 的大作中提到】 : 你难道不该用tennisexpress么? 隔城速递。。。 : : 。
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p*********5 发帖数: 41 | 28 哎,在tennisexpress上定了,结果告诉我11月才能到货。。。看spec估计我还得到gym
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l********g 发帖数: 677 | 29 等你拿到并试用过后,来谈谈体会吧
gym
【在 p*********5 的大作中提到】 : 哎,在tennisexpress上定了,结果告诉我11月才能到货。。。看spec估计我还得到gym : 里去锻炼一下肌肉,感觉很重的样子
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r*****u 发帖数: 169 | 30 哈哈 love your comments: small and sweet or big but not that sweet. 世事总是
这样平衡,如果big and sweet, 那是西瓜。
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【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : 是吗? 看spec 还不错, 以前曾经用过volkl一段时间, 影响不错。 我不是很喜欢 : Wilson的butt cap, 容易坏, 而且削球时,磨得手掌痛。。。 : 以前我也很不适应Babalot, feel 太不一样。 不过这次这个pure control pro 还不错 : , 就是轻了点。 最近用朋友的(added lead tape)打了些game, 感觉很好。 : definitely a lot more forgiving. 我的感觉是 6.1 的sweet spot 小, 但非常 : sweet; pure control 的sweet spot 大, 但没那么sweet. 最终结论是我的timing, : spacing, positioning, movement, anticipation 还是不够好, 要每次打到6.1的 : sweet spot不容易, 所以就得靠器材派了。
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c*****u 发帖数: 357 | 31
That's interesting, because the ad of this RF97 says: made for attackers
I had the same doubt,a 97 big stick for attacker?
【在 a*m 的大作中提到】 : It is totally different racket... : If people previously use 95, they may get used to the 97 quicker. : For people use 90s, i guess they will stay for a while unless they want to : enhance their defense more...
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t******g 发帖数: 2253 | 32 C10 Pro jjch有,黑导去休斯顿的时候可以找他demo下吧。我也在考虑换C10 Pro,,可
能更适合我的风格些。。。最近身体素质不行,打pb10有点吃力。。。 |
b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 33 TW still have not shipped my demos yet... but i got a hold of c10 pro from a
friend... like KennyD said, it does feel light on the swing. However,
unlike what he mentioned, power is not an issue for me. The issue for me is
that it swings so damn fast. Very good racquet head speed, but my problem is
that I'm unable to make the contact as clean. So a slower racquet head
speed might actually help me... also I like the feel of swing weight, it
makes the plow though much better.
I played with a good 4.5 pusher, so I couldn't tell about it's plow through.
I'll have to play some heavy hitter to get a better idea. But for now, it
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 34 RF97 is just another 1990's Wilson. Tons of Wilson at that time
are stiff, heavy and head light like RF97. Back then those were
called 老头拍。Young guns used 85.
I guess 老头 were stronger back then than now.
a
is
is
through.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : TW still have not shipped my demos yet... but i got a hold of c10 pro from a : friend... like KennyD said, it does feel light on the swing. However, : unlike what he mentioned, power is not an issue for me. The issue for me is : that it swings so damn fast. Very good racquet head speed, but my problem is : that I'm unable to make the contact as clean. So a slower racquet head : speed might actually help me... also I like the feel of swing weight, it : makes the plow though much better. : I played with a good 4.5 pusher, so I couldn't tell about it's plow through. : I'll have to play some heavy hitter to get a better idea. But for now, it : seems I'm down to Babalot pure control vs RF97....
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 35 What about the butt cap? Was it soft and transparent?
a
is
is
through.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : TW still have not shipped my demos yet... but i got a hold of c10 pro from a : friend... like KennyD said, it does feel light on the swing. However, : unlike what he mentioned, power is not an issue for me. The issue for me is : that it swings so damn fast. Very good racquet head speed, but my problem is : that I'm unable to make the contact as clean. So a slower racquet head : speed might actually help me... also I like the feel of swing weight, it : makes the plow though much better. : I played with a good 4.5 pusher, so I couldn't tell about it's plow through. : I'll have to play some heavy hitter to get a better idea. But for now, it : seems I'm down to Babalot pure control vs RF97....
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C*****m 发帖数: 203 | 36 The definition of "老头拍" is evolving, just like iphone's size.
Back to Agassi's time, 98 sqr inch is considered as "BIG" racket, and now
most ATP players have racket size GE 98.
Can we expect ATP pro using 114 sqr inch racket after 10 years? :-)
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : RF97 is just another 1990's Wilson. Tons of Wilson at that time : are stiff, heavy and head light like RF97. Back then those were : called 老头拍。Young guns used 85. : I guess 老头 were stronger back then than now. : : a : is : is : through.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 37 Not exactly. The POG and Radical Agassi used were both oversize 107.
95 was the average size as early as mid 1990.
The real difference between old and new 老头拍 is that old ones are heavy
and head light; new ones are light and head heavy. Besides, 1990's 老头拍
can be even uglier than now. 95 sq in with 30" width, ouch...
The definition of "老头拍" is evolving, just like iphone's size.
Back to Agassi's time, 98 sqr inch is considered as "BIG" racket, and now
most ATP players have racket size GE 98.
Can we expect ATP pro using 114 sqr inch racket after 10 years? :-)
【在 C*****m 的大作中提到】 : The definition of "老头拍" is evolving, just like iphone's size. : Back to Agassi's time, 98 sqr inch is considered as "BIG" racket, and now : most ATP players have racket size GE 98. : Can we expect ATP pro using 114 sqr inch racket after 10 years? :-)
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 38 yes, the butt cap is nice and soft. :)
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : What about the butt cap? Was it soft and transparent? : : a : is : is : through.
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b*********s 发帖数: 6757 | 39 can you list some of 1990's wilson that's similar to RF97?
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : RF97 is just another 1990's Wilson. Tons of Wilson at that time : are stiff, heavy and head light like RF97. Back then those were : called 老头拍。Young guns used 85. : I guess 老头 were stronger back then than now. : : a : is : is : through.
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 40 I can't find the specs for the 95, but here is the 110. Note the width
of 38mm at the throat. It's feasible to hit without string...
Wilson Profile 2.7
* Headsize: 110 sq. inches
* Grip size: 4 1/4, 4 3/8, 4 1/2, 4 5/8
* Grip type: Cushion-Aire
* Weight: 12.6 oz unstrung
* Balance: 8 points head light (unstrung)
* Length: 27 inches
* Cross section: 28/38/28 mm Dual Taper Beam
* String Pattern: 16 * 20
* Recommended String Tension: 55-65 lbs.
I have a 95 at home. Pretty sure it's head light also. The stiffness of
these rackets are 80+, easily beating 2014.
It's very hard to do topspin.
1) Too heavy, head speed can't be fast.
2) Too wide. Very easy to frame.
3) Too powerful. The moment you touch the ball it flies out.
【在 b*********s 的大作中提到】 : can you list some of 1990's wilson that's similar to RF97?
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 41 One more realistic racket:
Wilson Hyper Pro Staff 5.0
12.3 oz
8 pt HL
Swingweight 320
Flex 75
95 Sq In
16x20
21mm beam (not boxed)
Super stiff. Hits like an iron board with all poly.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : I can't find the specs for the 95, but here is the 110. Note the width : of 38mm at the throat. It's feasible to hit without string... : Wilson Profile 2.7 : * Headsize: 110 sq. inches : * Grip size: 4 1/4, 4 3/8, 4 1/2, 4 5/8 : * Grip type: Cushion-Aire : * Weight: 12.6 oz unstrung : * Balance: 8 points head light (unstrung) : * Length: 27 inches : * Cross section: 28/38/28 mm Dual Taper Beam
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K****D 发帖数: 30533 | 42 Or how about just the PSC 6.1:
Wilson ProStaff 6.1 Classic
Head Size: 95 sq. in.
Strung Weight: 12.6oz / 357g
Balance: 10 pts Head Light
Swingweight: 326
Stiffness: 72
Beam Width: 21 mm Straight Beam
Power Level: Low
Swing Speed: Very Fast
String Pattern: 16x18
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】 : One more realistic racket: : Wilson Hyper Pro Staff 5.0 : 12.3 oz : 8 pt HL : Swingweight 320 : Flex 75 : 95 Sq In : 16x20 : 21mm beam (not boxed) : Super stiff. Hits like an iron board with all poly.
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o**w 发帖数: 337 | 43 I have the European version of PSC 6.1 95, it is 18x20 with spec balance at
about 7.3 HL |