t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 1 自从跟这个新教练学了3个星期（3次），上个月14号缠的两个拍子都被我打断线了，2
周前打断一根，今天打断另外一根。以前同样的线我能打一个月多点，现在只能打2个
星期。以前的线都是cross越打越细，最后才断的；现在这两根都是被磨了一点，但还
剩很多，就被打断了，断的地方都是在甜点区。
这个教练让我改正手引拍和击球，感觉有点怪，毕竟跟习惯不一样，但确实很powerful
，不用怎么用muscle球就能打的很深，而且还快。但我平时一跟人打，就不可能每拍都
那样打，虽然有意思的去做，也可能改进了一点，但基本还是回到以前自己习惯的引拍
和击球方式。看来这段时间得少跟人打，多跟我的发球机玩，把动作彻底改好，不过还
是挺难的，唉。。。 |
a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 2 能否分享一下教练是怎么叫你改的？新动作的要领是什么？ |
s*********d
发帖数: 2406 | |
a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 4 Like I said many times:
ben before and after coaching!
2
powerful
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 自从跟这个新教练学了3个星期（3次），上个月14号缠的两个拍子都被我打断线了，2
: 周前打断一根，今天打断另外一根。以前同样的线我能打一个月多点，现在只能打2个
: 星期。以前的线都是cross越打越细，最后才断的；现在这两根都是被磨了一点，但还
: 剩很多，就被打断了，断的地方都是在甜点区。
: 这个教练让我改正手引拍和击球，感觉有点怪，毕竟跟习惯不一样，但确实很powerful
: ，不用怎么用muscle球就能打的很深，而且还快。但我平时一跟人打，就不可能每拍都
: 那样打，虽然有意思的去做，也可能改进了一点，但基本还是回到以前自己习惯的引拍
: 和击球方式。看来这段时间得少跟人打，多跟我的发球机玩，把动作彻底改好，不过还
: 是挺难的，唉。。。
|
s*****k
发帖数: 1630 | 5 你已经进到stage 3了，照这个速度很快就可以赶超AK了。 |
t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 6 it takes a while to correct myself, maybe next year I will ben with the
correct form, hahaha
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】
: Like I said many times:
: ben before and after coaching!
:
: 2
: powerful
|
w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 7 恭喜啊，看来你确实进步很大。男子暴力型的基本特点就是费线。form好了->力量变大
->球速变快->需要spin也跟着增加->线受摧残程度成倍增加，当然断的快。另外一个容
易被忽视的是，form好了后，UE成倍减少，回合球增加，单位时间内击球次数也成倍增
加，所以线也断的快。
偶以前说过，偶如果跟另一个暴力型对手对抽，非poly线超不过2小时，poly线（17L)
超不过20小时肯定断，都是甜点的main断。每次断时看所有线交叉点都被磨练很深的槽
。偶问CC，他也基本是这个状况。偶上次跟acc28对抽了10分钟线就断了，不过那把拍
子之前断断续续打过2星期。
你现在一定要坚持动作，不要管输赢。尽量多练球，少比赛。等动作稳定后再增加比赛。
2
powerful
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 自从跟这个新教练学了3个星期（3次），上个月14号缠的两个拍子都被我打断线了，2
: 周前打断一根，今天打断另外一根。以前同样的线我能打一个月多点，现在只能打2个
: 星期。以前的线都是cross越打越细，最后才断的；现在这两根都是被磨了一点，但还
: 剩很多，就被打断了，断的地方都是在甜点区。
: 这个教练让我改正手引拍和击球，感觉有点怪，毕竟跟习惯不一样，但确实很powerful
: ，不用怎么用muscle球就能打的很深，而且还快。但我平时一跟人打，就不可能每拍都
: 那样打，虽然有意思的去做，也可能改进了一点，但基本还是回到以前自己习惯的引拍
: 和击球方式。看来这段时间得少跟人打，多跟我的发球机玩，把动作彻底改好，不过还
: 是挺难的，唉。。。
|
t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 8 The new form is basically the modern forehand, and you can watch the slow
motion of either Federer or Nadal's forehand. I watched those videos before
many times, but I did not realize the benefits of each details until the
coach pointed out to me.
Key elements:
1. Relax your hand and arm.
2. Hold the racquet on the right side longer (I used to bring the racquet
back too quick so that I was waiting for the ball before I swing forward.
This causes decrease in the racquet head speed). This also means slow in
the early preparation, so that you can be faster when swing forward.
3. The relative position between the ball, your left and right arms, and the
racquet when you are loaded right before you are about to accelerate the
racquet.
4. When you bring the racquet all the way back, there is a drop in the
racquet head. You need to let the gravity of the racquet to drop the head,
not your hand. This helps the top spin as well as acceleration of the
racquet speed. Both Nadal and Federer do that, and Nadal is more obvious.
At this time, Federer and Nadal put the racquet face to the ground, but
there are other players who put the racquet face to the right side.
5. The "slot".
6. Roation of your hip and shoulder. When you swing forward to make contact
with the ball, let your hip and shoulder do the job, not your arm. At the
point of contact, your shoulder should have been open, i.e., parallel to the
net.
7. The contact point should be as forward as you can, but remember this does
not mean you would stretch your arm to reach forward. No, you still need
to maintain the so-called double bend posture.
8. The windshild wiper motion and finish the swing with the racquet close to
your left waist.
【在 a****n 的大作中提到】
: 能否分享一下教练是怎么叫你改的？新动作的要领是什么？
|
w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 9 you've got a good coach, he is well worth $80/hr
before
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: The new form is basically the modern forehand, and you can watch the slow
: motion of either Federer or Nadal's forehand. I watched those videos before
: many times, but I did not realize the benefits of each details until the
: coach pointed out to me.
: Key elements:
: 1. Relax your hand and arm.
: 2. Hold the racquet on the right side longer (I used to bring the racquet
: back too quick so that I was waiting for the ball before I swing forward.
: This causes decrease in the racquet head speed). This also means slow in
: the early preparation, so that you can be faster when swing forward.
|
t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 10 进步很大不敢说，但至少知道该怎么去做。一跟人打就想不了那么多了，虽然比以前好
点，会多注意动作，但有
时候想多了又会忘了步伐和看球了。 所以这段时间得多跟机器打，把动作稳定。不过
跟这个教练学确实收益非
浅，以前使劲muscle过去也就那么回事，现在拍头速度上去了都不用使劲，球就嗖嗖的
飞过去，再把上旋加上，
球落在界内弹起来之后拼命前冲。 上次去你们那打球前一天跟发球机练，我站着不动
，拍子固定在后摆的位置然
后往前击球，第一根线就这样被打断。
赛。
【在 w******n 的大作中提到】
: 恭喜啊，看来你确实进步很大。男子暴力型的基本特点就是费线。form好了->力量变大
: ->球速变快->需要spin也跟着增加->线受摧残程度成倍增加，当然断的快。另外一个容
: 易被忽视的是，form好了后，UE成倍减少，回合球增加，单位时间内击球次数也成倍增
: 加，所以线也断的快。
: 偶以前说过，偶如果跟另一个暴力型对手对抽，非poly线超不过2小时，poly线（17L)
: 超不过20小时肯定断，都是甜点的main断。每次断时看所有线交叉点都被磨练很深的槽
: 。偶问CC，他也基本是这个状况。偶上次跟acc28对抽了10分钟线就断了，不过那把拍
: 子之前断断续续打过2星期。
: 你现在一定要坚持动作，不要管输赢。尽量多练球，少比赛。等动作稳定后再增加比赛。
:
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 11 下次偶可以陪你对抽。而且别光练正手，反手也要跟上。动作要领其实跟正手差不多
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 进步很大不敢说，但至少知道该怎么去做。一跟人打就想不了那么多了，虽然比以前好
: 点，会多注意动作，但有
: 时候想多了又会忘了步伐和看球了。 所以这段时间得多跟机器打，把动作稳定。不过
: 跟这个教练学确实收益非
: 浅，以前使劲muscle过去也就那么回事，现在拍头速度上去了都不用使劲，球就嗖嗖的
: 飞过去，再把上旋加上，
: 球落在界内弹起来之后拼命前冲。 上次去你们那打球前一天跟发球机练，我站着不动
: ，拍子固定在后摆的位置然
: 后往前击球，第一根线就这样被打断。
:
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S***e
发帖数: 4426 | 12 这个肯定是长球了。赞～
男人打球就是要暴力点儿，要不成了大姑娘了。。。
2
powerful
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 自从跟这个新教练学了3个星期（3次），上个月14号缠的两个拍子都被我打断线了，2
: 周前打断一根，今天打断另外一根。以前同样的线我能打一个月多点，现在只能打2个
: 星期。以前的线都是cross越打越细，最后才断的；现在这两根都是被磨了一点，但还
: 剩很多，就被打断了，断的地方都是在甜点区。
: 这个教练让我改正手引拍和击球，感觉有点怪，毕竟跟习惯不一样，但确实很powerful
: ，不用怎么用muscle球就能打的很深，而且还快。但我平时一跟人打，就不可能每拍都
: 那样打，虽然有意思的去做，也可能改进了一点，但基本还是回到以前自己习惯的引拍
: 和击球方式。看来这段时间得少跟人打，多跟我的发球机玩，把动作彻底改好，不过还
: 是挺难的，唉。。。
|
y**a
发帖数: 2546 | 13 very good points!
I can see 1 will help 4.
The new form is basically the modern forehand, and you can watch the slow
motion of either Federer or Nadal's forehand. I watched those videos before
many times, but I did not realize the benefits of each details until the
coach pointed out to me.
Key elements:
1. Relax your hand and arm.
2. Hold the racquet on the right side longer (I used to bring the racquet
back too quick so that I was waiting for the ball before I swing forward.
This causes decrease in the racquet head speed). This also means slow in
the early preparation, so that you can be faster when swing forward.
3. The relative position between the ball, your left and right arms, and the
racquet when you are loaded right before you are about to accelerate the
racquet.
4. When you bring the racquet all the way back, there is a drop in the
racquet head. You need to let the gravity of the racquet to drop the head,
not your hand. This helps the top spin as well as acceleration of the
racquet speed. Both Nadal and Federer do that, and Nadal is more obvious.
At this time, Federer and Nadal put the racquet face to the ground, but
there are other players who put the racquet face to the right side.
5. The "slot".
6. Roation of your hip and shoulder. When you swing forward to make contact
with the ball, let your hip and shoulder do the job, not your arm. At the
point of contact, your shoulder should have been open, i.e., parallel to the
net.
7. The contact point should be as forward as you can, but remember this does
not mean you would stretch your arm to reach forward. No, you still need
to maintain the so-called double bend posture.
8. The windshild wiper motion and finish the swing with the racquet close to
your left waist.
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: The new form is basically the modern forehand, and you can watch the slow
: motion of either Federer or Nadal's forehand. I watched those videos before
: many times, but I did not realize the benefits of each details until the
: coach pointed out to me.
: Key elements:
: 1. Relax your hand and arm.
: 2. Hold the racquet on the right side longer (I used to bring the racquet
: back too quick so that I was waiting for the ball before I swing forward.
: This causes decrease in the racquet head speed). This also means slow in
: the early preparation, so that you can be faster when swing forward.
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 14 你去哪陪? 单反MM都没能把你诱惑过去
【在 w******n 的大作中提到】
: 下次偶可以陪你对抽。而且别光练正手，反手也要跟上。动作要领其实跟正手差不多
|
a****n
发帖数: 4734 | 15 thanks so much. 我的正手一直是上旋太多，比较肉。下次照你说的要点再体会体会。
......
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: The new form is basically the modern forehand, and you can watch the slow
: motion of either Federer or Nadal's forehand. I watched those videos before
: many times, but I did not realize the benefits of each details until the
: coach pointed out to me.
: Key elements:
: 1. Relax your hand and arm.
: 2. Hold the racquet on the right side longer (I used to bring the racquet
: back too quick so that I was waiting for the ball before I swing forward.
: This causes decrease in the racquet head speed). This also means slow in
: the early preparation, so that you can be faster when swing forward.
|
w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 16 其实偶是非常想去的，可惜要加班。等闲下来再说
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: 你去哪陪? 单反MM都没能把你诱惑过去
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 17 他原来是想打着陪我抽球的旗号来找mm，hoho
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: 你去哪陪? 单反MM都没能把你诱惑过去
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 18 ^_^ 上次估计被LD看出来了才没被放行 :P
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 他原来是想打着陪我抽球的旗号来找mm，hoho
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 19 所以这次说要陪偶打，哈哈
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: ^_^ 上次估计被LD看出来了才没被放行 :P
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 20 所以这次说要陪偶打，哈哈
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: ^_^ 上次估计被LD看出来了才没被放行 :P
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 21 对了，说道反手，那个教练也让我把拍头降下去，让我降到贴近小腿，我觉得有点夸张
，他说nadal就是这样，但
我后来看nadal的双反引拍没那么低的，倒是发现一万的引拍是像他说的那样。
【在 w******n 的大作中提到】
: 下次偶可以陪你对抽。而且别光练正手，反手也要跟上。动作要领其实跟正手差不多
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 22 drop lower racquet head will help head speed, but it will be more difficult
to control timing, especially for fast balls
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 对了，说道反手，那个教练也让我把拍头降下去，让我降到贴近小腿，我觉得有点夸张
: ，他说nadal就是这样，但
: 我后来看nadal的双反引拍没那么低的，倒是发现一万的引拍是像他说的那样。
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 23 永远不要低估LD的智商 :P
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 所以这次说要陪偶打，哈哈
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 24 看来你上次是被ld看穿了 哈哈
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: 永远不要低估LD的智商 :P
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 25 LD选的机场啊, 俺是被动接招的 :P
【在 w******n 的大作中提到】
: 看来你上次是被ld看穿了 哈哈
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 26 next time ask her to pick the same airport, :D
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: LD选的机场啊, 俺是被动接招的 :P
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 27 and miss her plane again?
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: next time ask her to pick the same airport, :D
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 28 haha, that is not her fault.
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: and miss her plane again?
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b*****t
发帖数: 758 | 29 Sign. Ever since I started using babolat hurricane tour strings, i have
never broken a single string. One less way to BSO.
2
powerful
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 自从跟这个新教练学了3个星期（3次），上个月14号缠的两个拍子都被我打断线了，2
: 周前打断一根，今天打断另外一根。以前同样的线我能打一个月多点，现在只能打2个
: 星期。以前的线都是cross越打越细，最后才断的；现在这两根都是被磨了一点，但还
: 剩很多，就被打断了，断的地方都是在甜点区。
: 这个教练让我改正手引拍和击球，感觉有点怪，毕竟跟习惯不一样，但确实很powerful
: ，不用怎么用muscle球就能打的很深，而且还快。但我平时一跟人打，就不可能每拍都
: 那样打，虽然有意思的去做，也可能改进了一点，但基本还是回到以前自己习惯的引拍
: 和击球方式。看来这段时间得少跟人打，多跟我的发球机玩，把动作彻底改好，不过还
: 是挺难的，唉。。。
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k****3
发帖数: 2770 | |
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 31 我的就不用学了，我也是照那些pro的form改，只不过有个教练在旁边帮我。如果真的
能改好，我会很乐意奔一下，呵呵。现在改的过程是有喜有悲啊，挺有意思的。
【在 k****3 的大作中提到】
: 赞教练，新form练好了记得奔个，学习学习
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s*****k
发帖数: 1630 | 32 赞～ 教练教得好，学生也领悟的很好。
对于这个contact at front, 偶想hit-through多些，教练又说偶over-stretch, 你是
怎么体会的？
偶觉得double bend里wrist bend(laid back wrist) 是关键，因为有的pro 用
straight arm也打得很好。
7. The contact point should be as forward as you can, but remember this does
not mean you would stretch your arm to reach forward. No, you still need
to maintain the so-called double bend posture.
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: 我的就不用学了，我也是照那些pro的form改，只不过有个教练在旁边帮我。如果真的
: 能改好，我会很乐意奔一下，呵呵。现在改的过程是有喜有悲啊，挺有意思的。
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 33 check how much is your shoulder turn when you over stretch. My feeling is
more shoulder turn could prevent over-stretch. My coach was asking me to
have more shoulder turn so that when I finish my chin is on my right
shoulder. This is kind of hard for someone like me who has a stiff shoulder.
does
【在 s*****k 的大作中提到】
: 赞～ 教练教得好，学生也领悟的很好。
: 对于这个contact at front, 偶想hit-through多些，教练又说偶over-stretch, 你是
: 怎么体会的？
: 偶觉得double bend里wrist bend(laid back wrist) 是关键，因为有的pro 用
: straight arm也打得很好。
:
: 7. The contact point should be as forward as you can, but remember this does
: not mean you would stretch your arm to reach forward. No, you still need
: to maintain the so-called double bend posture.
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 34 让你指导偶一下，你惜字如金。到tenfei这里你哇啦哇啦说了一堆。偶实在是太没面子啦
does
【在 s*****k 的大作中提到】
: 赞～ 教练教得好，学生也领悟的很好。
: 对于这个contact at front, 偶想hit-through多些，教练又说偶over-stretch, 你是
: 怎么体会的？
: 偶觉得double bend里wrist bend(laid back wrist) 是关键，因为有的pro 用
: straight arm也打得很好。
:
: 7. The contact point should be as forward as you can, but remember this does
: not mean you would stretch your arm to reach forward. No, you still need
: to maintain the so-called double bend posture.
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s*****k
发帖数: 1630 | 35 你说得比pro还pro, 让你ben又不ben , 都不给机会咋指导啊？
子啦
【在 w******n 的大作中提到】
: 让你指导偶一下，你惜字如金。到tenfei这里你哇啦哇啦说了一堆。偶实在是太没面子啦
:
: does
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 36 tenfei说的不比偶还pro，（其实就是他pro教练说的），你还不是照样指导？不给面子
就是不给面子，跟是否pro无关。。。
【在 s*****k 的大作中提到】
: 你说得比pro还pro, 让你ben又不ben , 都不给机会咋指导啊？
:
: 子啦
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r******n
发帖数: 1665 | 37 Tenfei不是已经说了嘛？上课没有认真听讲，下课没有和同学认真对笔记。
7. The contact point should be as forward as you can, but remember this
does not mean you would stretch your arm to reach forward. No, you still
need to maintain the so-called double bend posture.
does
need
【在 s*****k 的大作中提到】
: 赞～ 教练教得好，学生也领悟的很好。
: 对于这个contact at front, 偶想hit-through多些，教练又说偶over-stretch, 你是
: 怎么体会的？
: 偶觉得double bend里wrist bend(laid back wrist) 是关键，因为有的pro 用
: straight arm也打得很好。
:
: 7. The contact point should be as forward as you can, but remember this does
: not mean you would stretch your arm to reach forward. No, you still need
: to maintain the so-called double bend posture.
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 38 mmm... Need to print it out and pin it on the wall of the office cubie and
try to practice it on the air with imagination!
One of the best posts of all time in the tennis board! Do you have any photo
to demo each step?? @_@
before
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: The new form is basically the modern forehand, and you can watch the slow
: motion of either Federer or Nadal's forehand. I watched those videos before
: many times, but I did not realize the benefits of each details until the
: coach pointed out to me.
: Key elements:
: 1. Relax your hand and arm.
: 2. Hold the racquet on the right side longer (I used to bring the racquet
: back too quick so that I was waiting for the ball before I swing forward.
: This causes decrease in the racquet head speed). This also means slow in
: the early preparation, so that you can be faster when swing forward.
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 39 haha, do you prefer me or a mm in the photos? I bet you can have so many
videos online to show you those things. why do you need a WSN to show you?
lol...
photo
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】
: mmm... Need to print it out and pin it on the wall of the office cubie and
: try to practice it on the air with imagination!
: One of the best posts of all time in the tennis board! Do you have any photo
: to demo each step?? @_@
:
: before
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 40 Here is the order my preference:
1. 单反mm
2. your coach
3. you
4. pro
?
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: haha, do you prefer me or a mm in the photos? I bet you can have so many
: videos online to show you those things. why do you need a WSN to show you?
: lol...
:
: photo
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 41 the chance you see me in the photos is much higher, :D
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】
: Here is the order my preference:
: 1. 单反mm
: 2. your coach
: 3. you
: 4. pro
:
: ?
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s*****k
发帖数: 1630 | 42 More shouder turn to prevent over-stretch -- I have never thought of that.
shoulder.
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: check how much is your shoulder turn when you over stretch. My feeling is
: more shoulder turn could prevent over-stretch. My coach was asking me to
: have more shoulder turn so that when I finish my chin is on my right
: shoulder. This is kind of hard for someone like me who has a stiff shoulder.
:
: does
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s*****k
发帖数: 1630 | 43 form好的不能理解form烂的的痛苦ing. Contact提前了又不能是over stretch, 这个提
前多少不好掌握啊～ 真的是“as forward as you can”？
【在 r******n 的大作中提到】
: Tenfei不是已经说了嘛？上课没有认真听讲，下课没有和同学认真对笔记。
: 7. The contact point should be as forward as you can, but remember this
: does not mean you would stretch your arm to reach forward. No, you still
: need to maintain the so-called double bend posture.
:
: does
: need
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 44 have the shoulder turned and maintain the double bent position, that would
define how much you can really go forward.
have your coach asked you to stop the racquet upper in front of you after
you made the contact? That kind of tells you how much forward you want to
make the contact.
【在 s*****k 的大作中提到】
: form好的不能理解form烂的的痛苦ing. Contact提前了又不能是over stretch, 这个提
: 前多少不好掌握啊～ 真的是“as forward as you can”？
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 45 you can freeze federder's forehand motion at contact and see the relative
positions of his shoulder, arm, racquet and ball.
【在 s*****k 的大作中提到】
: More shouder turn to prevent over-stretch -- I have never thought of that.
:
: shoulder.
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b**k
发帖数: 11850 | 46 左肩向前90度变成右肩向前90度，甚至总共大于180
【在 s*****k 的大作中提到】
: More shouder turn to prevent over-stretch -- I have never thought of that.
:
: shoulder.
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 47 Good, ben!
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: the chance you see me in the photos is much higher, :D
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r******n
发帖数: 1665 | 48 Both of your coaches are teaching the same thing....almost in the same way.
I heard ServeOK's coach asked her to stop the racquet upper in in front when
warming up but did not know why.
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: have the shoulder turned and maintain the double bent position, that would
: define how much you can really go forward.
: have your coach asked you to stop the racquet upper in front of you after
: you made the contact? That kind of tells you how much forward you want to
: make the contact.
:
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r******n
发帖数: 1665 | 49 Roger has one of the best forehands in tennis history but I do not think his
is the best to copy. His forehand does not have double bend. He is using
straight arm instead, which is very demanding of timing and control.
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: you can freeze federder's forehand motion at contact and see the relative
: positions of his shoulder, arm, racquet and ball.
:
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t****i
发帖数: 4225 | 50 He uses the double bend too, maybe not as much as other guys. He plays with
straight arm sometimed too.
his
【在 r******n 的大作中提到】
: Roger has one of the best forehands in tennis history but I do not think his
: is the best to copy. His forehand does not have double bend. He is using
: straight arm instead, which is very demanding of timing and control.
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b*e
发帖数: 3845 | 51 These are good tips!
before
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: The new form is basically the modern forehand, and you can watch the slow
: motion of either Federer or Nadal's forehand. I watched those videos before
: many times, but I did not realize the benefits of each details until the
: coach pointed out to me.
: Key elements:
: 1. Relax your hand and arm.
: 2. Hold the racquet on the right side longer (I used to bring the racquet
: back too quick so that I was waiting for the ball before I swing forward.
: This causes decrease in the racquet head speed). This also means slow in
: the early preparation, so that you can be faster when swing forward.
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s*****k
发帖数: 1630 | 52 教练有让偶练这个动作，问题是教练渡假去了，偶给放羊了一个多月了，form又要给忘
了。教练回来冬天也快来上不了课了。
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: have the shoulder turned and maintain the double bent position, that would
: define how much you can really go forward.
: have your coach asked you to stop the racquet upper in front of you after
: you made the contact? That kind of tells you how much forward you want to
: make the contact.
:
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s*****k
发帖数: 1630 | 53 看了一个federder's forehand analysis, 果然是说他的contact point in front as
much as possible, 拍头放松自然下沉。。。
【在 t****i 的大作中提到】
: you can freeze federder's forehand motion at contact and see the relative
: positions of his shoulder, arm, racquet and ball.
:
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s*****k
发帖数: 1630 | 54 为什么straight arm不好学呢？偶感觉straight arm更能把contact靠前，偶现在好像
straight arm多一些了。
【 在 richjohn (小猪) 的大作中提到: 】
his |
s*****k
发帖数: 1630 | 55 tenfei说的是他pro教练教的经过自己的消化谈的是自己的体会，你说的是像是教科书
一字不漏的背诵说的像是pro自己的感受，大概是偶水平低不容易理解，虽然字面上都
懂。
【在 w******n 的大作中提到】
: tenfei说的不比偶还pro，（其实就是他pro教练说的），你还不是照样指导？不给面子
: 就是不给面子，跟是否pro无关。。。
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r******n
发帖数: 1665 | 56 Straight arm对timing,手眼配合和控球的要求都要比double bend高。
这就像单手反手动作超漂亮。可是对力量和手眼配合的要求都要比双手反手高，学起来
比较困难。
【在 s*****k 的大作中提到】
: 为什么straight arm不好学呢？偶感觉straight arm更能把contact靠前，偶现在好像
: straight arm多一些了。
: 【 在 richjohn (小猪) 的大作中提到: 】
: his
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w******n
发帖数: 13172 | 57 好啦，不逗你了。偶没那么高水平能一字不漏的背诵教科书或替pro将感受。事实上偶
即没看过教科书也没请过教练。不过是在这里混东听几句西学一点而已。当然也不至于
差到上旋和平击都搞不清。
不过印象中你是常来这里灌水（至少最近）的唯一正式女4.0了，所以希望能多套出几
句你的经验之谈而已。别介意。。。
【在 s*****k 的大作中提到】
: tenfei说的是他pro教练教的经过自己的消化谈的是自己的体会，你说的是像是教科书
: 一字不漏的背诵说的像是pro自己的感受，大概是偶水平低不容易理解，虽然字面上都
: 懂。
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b**k
发帖数: 11850 | 58 你也可以double bend 得偏straight一点嘛
【在 r******n 的大作中提到】
: Straight arm对timing,手眼配合和控球的要求都要比double bend高。
: 这就像单手反手动作超漂亮。可是对力量和手眼配合的要求都要比双手反手高，学起来
: 比较困难。
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s*****k
发帖数: 1630 | 59 BSO 大脑发达。
【在 w******n 的大作中提到】
: 好啦，不逗你了。偶没那么高水平能一字不漏的背诵教科书或替pro将感受。事实上偶
: 即没看过教科书也没请过教练。不过是在这里混东听几句西学一点而已。当然也不至于
: 差到上旋和平击都搞不清。
: 不过印象中你是常来这里灌水（至少最近）的唯一正式女4.0了，所以希望能多套出几
: 句你的经验之谈而已。别介意。。。
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