n***e
发帖数: 461 | |
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 2 White 4.5-, red 3.5+.
【在 n***e 的大作中提到】
: 咱也凑个热闹-转载一个
: http://vimeo.com/3231428
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 3 are u sure :P
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: White 4.5-, red 3.5+.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 4 too low or too high? @_@
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: are u sure :P
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 5 首先白的和红的肯定差得不是这么点，
白的要高不少，肯定5.0以上。
怀疑是教练和学生的关系，
白的一般回球都回到红的身体近距离，主要还是正手，不管自己前后左右怎么跑，红的
就是想回哪儿会哪儿的。
我和我私教打，就是这么样的。 |
a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 6 I felt too low. Look how well the balls positioned. They hit
hard w/ great control. White maybe strong 4.5 or OK 5.0.
Red might be strong 4.0.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: White 4.5-, red 3.5+.
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 7 呵呵，我觉得红的没有4.0.
我对肯尼迪的3.5到3.5+比较认同。
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: I felt too low. Look how well the balls positioned. They hit
: hard w/ great control. White maybe strong 4.5 or OK 5.0.
: Red might be strong 4.0.
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 8 hehe, I do not believe 3.5 can handle that pace and
spin from the white guy. The red guy's control was not
that great, that because of the white guy's pace and spin.
There are a bunch more videos about these two (right hand
side). Most people here can not beat the red guy easly.
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 呵呵，我觉得红的没有4.0.
: 我对肯尼迪的3.5到3.5+比较认同。
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 9 嘿嘿，你要是看到我教练和我对打，可能也觉得我打得挺好的了，因为他以用样节奏，
打到我reachable的范围。力量和旋转不是问题，没有变化的话，几个回合就适应。关键
是应变，没看出红的在哪个有了变化的球后，处理的像4.0.
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: hehe, I do not believe 3.5 can handle that pace and
: spin from the white guy. The red guy's control was not
: that great, that because of the white guy's pace and spin.
: There are a bunch more videos about these two (right hand
: side). Most people here can not beat the red guy easly.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 10 hehe, I think you are better than the red one.
From what I see, he looks good because of 傍大腿。If he plays
me he would not be able to hit with such pace, hehe.
The white one I might have given too low ratings.
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: I felt too low. Look how well the balls positioned. They hit
: hard w/ great control. White maybe strong 4.5 or OK 5.0.
: Red might be strong 4.0.
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 11 I am not confident to beat that red guy. Not everybody can
hit w/ strong 4.5. I believe he can generate pace if he
needs to. Anyway, the court looks familar. Anybody bened
in this court?
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: hehe, I think you are better than the red one.
: From what I see, he looks good because of 傍大腿。If he plays
: me he would not be able to hit with such pace, hehe.
: The white one I might have given too low ratings.
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 12 nodnod，就是这么回事。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: hehe, I think you are better than the red one.
: From what I see, he looks good because of 傍大腿。If he plays
: me he would not be able to hit with such pace, hehe.
: The white one I might have given too low ratings.
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 13 Record yours w/ coach and ben here to prove your point :P
关键
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 嘿嘿，你要是看到我教练和我对打，可能也觉得我打得挺好的了，因为他以用样节奏，
: 打到我reachable的范围。力量和旋转不是问题，没有变化的话，几个回合就适应。关键
: 是应变，没看出红的在哪个有了变化的球后，处理的像4.0.
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 14 我前几天问买camcorder的事情，都没人回，还要我奔，哼。。。
另外，我现在非常胖，不想这样的形象破坏我这个知名艾迪的名誉，呵呵。而且也还没
有打到我应该的level，准备减肥减20lb吧。今年冬天前应该。
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: Record yours w/ coach and ben here to prove your point :P
:
: 关键
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 15 ft, ben the back, nobody can see who you are ah...
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 我前几天问买camcorder的事情，都没人回，还要我奔，哼。。。
: 另外，我现在非常胖，不想这样的形象破坏我这个知名艾迪的名誉，呵呵。而且也还没
: 有打到我应该的level，准备减肥减20lb吧。今年冬天前应该。
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 16 那也不行，人家知道这个id有这么胖的背影。。。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: ft, ben the back, nobody can see who you are ah...
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 17 then squeeze the video ratio like deskew or forrest2000.
I squeezed the video in the wrong direction (压扁）, and many people
thought I was super fat...
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 那也不行，人家知道这个id有这么胖的背影。。。
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 18 哈哈，还有这种玩法啊，
等我先买个digital camcorder再说呢。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: then squeeze the video ratio like deskew or forrest2000.
: I squeezed the video in the wrong direction (压扁）, and many people
: thought I was super fat...
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w********u
发帖数: 1865 | 19 大家在评不认识的人的level的时候都太苛刻了。试想一下你如果跟这个白色衣服的人
打，在这样的球
速和落点情况下，能不能保证可以持续的把球回过去数个回合。在这里奔过的所有
video了，只有cc的
球速可以一拼。
【在 n***e 的大作中提到】
: 咱也凑个热闹-转载一个
: http://vimeo.com/3231428
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 20 我可能有这样的问题，就是没有自己录过像，不知道真是的球速在录像上看是什么样子
的。
不过我觉得如果把白的说成4.5强到OK 5.0，说红的4.0强我觉得说不过去的。因为差距
不止这么大的。
对练的时候和比赛时候很不一样，能看出白的是在给红的feed ball，红的很多都handl
e的很不好。要是打起比赛来，可能场面就非常难看了。
【在 w********u 的大作中提到】
: 大家在评不认识的人的level的时候都太苛刻了。试想一下你如果跟这个白色衣服的人
: 打，在这样的球
: 速和落点情况下，能不能保证可以持续的把球回过去数个回合。在这里奔过的所有
: video了，只有cc的
: 球速可以一拼。
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 21 But CC is USTA 4.0 ah? haha.
I aglee the white guy's forehand looks even better than CC.
【在 w********u 的大作中提到】
: 大家在评不认识的人的level的时候都太苛刻了。试想一下你如果跟这个白色衣服的人
: 打，在这样的球
: 速和落点情况下，能不能保证可以持续的把球回过去数个回合。在这里奔过的所有
: video了，只有cc的
: 球速可以一拼。
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 22 嗯，我只看过CC的一个录像，我认为这个白的比CC强。
他的air forehand，身体控制的很好。
有些球他是为了给对方回落点，没有全力，没有腾空，而是比较控制的，就是说他放开了打会更好。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: But CC is USTA 4.0 ah? haha.
: I aglee the white guy's forehand looks even better than CC.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 23 偶刚开始评的时候是在想如果相差超过1.0，这个白的怎么还会愿意和这个
红的打，没有想到师徒这个可能关系，所以就给了那么个评分，呵呵。
handl
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 我可能有这样的问题，就是没有自己录过像，不知道真是的球速在录像上看是什么样子
: 的。
: 不过我觉得如果把白的说成4.5强到OK 5.0，说红的4.0强我觉得说不过去的。因为差距
: 不止这么大的。
: 对练的时候和比赛时候很不一样，能看出白的是在给红的feed ball，红的很多都handl
: e的很不好。要是打起比赛来，可能场面就非常难看了。
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w********u
发帖数: 1865 | 24 白的确实强不少，看他下一个video里底线肩部高度球的平击smash，我觉得他至少是强
5.0（前提是
其他技术没有软板），至少看了那么多大学的比赛，能像他那么击球的也都是学校里的
前几号单打的水
准。
handl
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 我可能有这样的问题，就是没有自己录过像，不知道真是的球速在录像上看是什么样子
: 的。
: 不过我觉得如果把白的说成4.5强到OK 5.0，说红的4.0强我觉得说不过去的。因为差距
: 不止这么大的。
: 对练的时候和比赛时候很不一样，能看出白的是在给红的feed ball，红的很多都handl
: e的很不好。要是打起比赛来，可能场面就非常难看了。
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v***s
发帖数: 1893 | 25 白的5.5，红得4.0
【在 n***e 的大作中提到】
: 咱也凑个热闹-转载一个
: http://vimeo.com/3231428
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 26 for some reason, i can't watch this video any more.
Looks like I can only watch youtube.
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: 白的5.5，红得4.0
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h****z
发帖数: 2009 | 27 如果CC是4.0，那我们都不要玩了。人家那是谦虚，我觉得CC至少4.5.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: But CC is USTA 4.0 ah? haha.
: I aglee the white guy's forehand looks even better than CC.
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 28 you are not famous in tennis board yet, at least not
before your ben :P
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 我前几天问买camcorder的事情，都没人回，还要我奔，哼。。。
: 另外，我现在非常胖，不想这样的形象破坏我这个知名艾迪的名誉，呵呵。而且也还没
: 有打到我应该的level，准备减肥减20lb吧。今年冬天前应该。
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n***e
发帖数: 461 | 29 公布答案
5.5 (according to source) the guy in white shirt is a D2 player ranked 43 in
2008.
hehe. |
a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 30 ft! He should be 4.5 :) If he plays usta single league,
he will be DQed :P
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: But CC is USTA 4.0 ah? haha.
: I aglee the white guy's forehand looks even better than CC.
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 31 that is why I ask you to ben yours. Video recording will lower
the ball speed a lot.
handl
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 我可能有这样的问题，就是没有自己录过像，不知道真是的球速在录像上看是什么样子
: 的。
: 不过我觉得如果把白的说成4.5强到OK 5.0，说红的4.0强我觉得说不过去的。因为差距
: 不止这么大的。
: 对练的时候和比赛时候很不一样，能看出白的是在给红的feed ball，红的很多都handl
: e的很不好。要是打起比赛来，可能场面就非常难看了。
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 32 the white guy might work for that club? Watch his serve
pratice, one guy even throw balls to him on the side.
Almost all his serve is one bounce to net :P
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 偶刚开始评的时候是在想如果相差超过1.0，这个白的怎么还会愿意和这个
: 红的打，没有想到师徒这个可能关系，所以就给了那么个评分，呵呵。
:
: handl
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 33 我没说不奔，我说是：
1. 买了digital camcorder
2. 减肥
3. 回到我peak的水平时候
而且给了日子，就是今年冬天前。
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: that is why I ask you to ben yours. Video recording will lower
: the ball speed a lot.
:
: handl
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 34 hmm, I still underestimate that white guy. But it is hard
to estimate high high hand :P
in
【在 n***e 的大作中提到】
: 公布答案
: 5.5 (according to source) the guy in white shirt is a D2 player ranked 43 in
: 2008.
: hehe.
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 35 你没有注意他打得很控制，不是那种放开了打的样子。
他开始几拍子（就是人不在画面的）都是下压式的topspin，贴网过，然后对面的红的球
就开始乱飞了。后来他到右边角上打，以他的控制打air（就和前几拍中有的似的）没有
问题，但是他还是考虑一下回去的落点最好给对方不那么困难，结果都是比较不全力去
打的。
这个录像比较missleading，因为一个不敢把全力使出来，一个又因为对手喂球好，而且
对手是高手显得高。
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: hmm, I still underestimate that white guy. But it is hard
: to estimate high high hand :P
:
: in
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 36 这是很隐晦的BSO! 冬天前是几月?就当是11月吧.所以3个月左右减肥(20 lb?)并回到
peak! 赞收放自如!
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 我没说不奔，我说是：
: 1. 买了digital camcorder
: 2. 减肥
: 3. 回到我peak的水平时候
: 而且给了日子，就是今年冬天前。
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 37 我是6月12号才开始打球的，这之前7年没摸网球拍了。
去年12月份生的小孩，然后哺乳半年，肥了快40lb。
你让我这么奔不是出丑是什么？还BSO呢。
我现在就两个运动，有一个网球，一个跑步。
已经减了14lb了，再减20lb，我觉得3个与差不多吧。
至于peak么，我原来以为自己有4.0，现在发现可能就是3.5，所以可以提前回到了，呵
呵。
【在 a*****3 的大作中提到】
: 这是很隐晦的BSO! 冬天前是几月?就当是11月吧.所以3个月左右减肥(20 lb?)并回到
: peak! 赞收放自如!
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f*********0
发帖数: 886 | 38 红衣服的form很象万人群奔贴里的ken213 |
K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 39 Bingo. I got the same feeling, hehe.
【在 f*********0 的大作中提到】
: 红衣服的form很象万人群奔贴里的ken213
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 40 wow, I missed by 1.0, haha.
Any source on the red guy? @_@
in
【在 n***e 的大作中提到】
: 公布答案
: 5.5 (according to source) the guy in white shirt is a D2 player ranked 43 in
: 2008.
: hehe.
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a*****3
发帖数: 10373 | 41 这个更赞了!
其实现在ben一个,冬天前再ben一个,就更有效果了. :P
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 我是6月12号才开始打球的，这之前7年没摸网球拍了。
: 去年12月份生的小孩，然后哺乳半年，肥了快40lb。
: 你让我这么奔不是出丑是什么？还BSO呢。
: 我现在就两个运动，有一个网球，一个跑步。
: 已经减了14lb了，再减20lb，我觉得3个与差不多吧。
: 至于peak么，我原来以为自己有4.0，现在发现可能就是3.5，所以可以提前回到了，呵
: 呵。
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 42 是不是哺乳期不适合打网球阿？
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 我是6月12号才开始打球的，这之前7年没摸网球拍了。
: 去年12月份生的小孩，然后哺乳半年，肥了快40lb。
: 你让我这么奔不是出丑是什么？还BSO呢。
: 我现在就两个运动，有一个网球，一个跑步。
: 已经减了14lb了，再减20lb，我觉得3个与差不多吧。
: 至于peak么，我原来以为自己有4.0，现在发现可能就是3.5，所以可以提前回到了，呵
: 呵。
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 43 哺乳期不适合做任何运动，
因为一运动，产量就下降。
现在哺完了。。。
有宝宝的奔，在跑步版。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: 是不是哺乳期不适合打网球阿？
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 44 oh, worried about LD now...
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 哺乳期不适合做任何运动，
: 因为一运动，产量就下降。
: 现在哺完了。。。
: 有宝宝的奔，在跑步版。
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 45 没关系，不要怕。
你看我不到2个月，就减下14lb，而且是比较健康的，没有过度节食，适当少吃一些。运
动也比较适量，因为白天上班，周末比较密集。
就是要有人帮着带孩子，要不我的确觉得很困难。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: oh, worried about LD now...
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k****3
发帖数: 2770 | 46 不会吧。我自己就觉得不像。和现在的动作跟不想。他的follow through不够完整，
windshield动作也没有我大，我可比他暴力多了。反手也不太像，站位和随挥不一样。
【在 f*********0 的大作中提到】
: 红衣服的form很象万人群奔贴里的ken213
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v***s
发帖数: 1893 | 47 me 3
your rating skill is dull. Maybe you watch too much video.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Bingo. I got the same feeling, hehe.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 48 He is not as good as you, but there is a little bit 神似, hehe,
esp. the racket head swing, he is not the 优雅 full loop type,
but a 暴力 type...
【在 k****3 的大作中提到】
: 不会吧。我自己就觉得不像。和现在的动作跟不想。他的follow through不够完整，
: windshield动作也没有我大，我可比他暴力多了。反手也不太像，站位和随挥不一样。
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 49 I watched too short time this morning before setting out
for work, //sigh...
Now I found that website is blocked here.
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: me 3
: your rating skill is dull. Maybe you watch too much video.
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v***s
发帖数: 1893 | 50 haha
红的明显是来陪练的，白的比他兴奋多了。要是师徒，那红的应该很兴奋，白的很放松。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: wow, I missed by 1.0, haha.
: Any source on the red guy? @_@
:
: in
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 51 那白的为啥使劲往红的舒服的地方回啊？
明显是要训练红的么。
松。
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: haha
: 红的明显是来陪练的，白的比他兴奋多了。要是师徒，那红的应该很兴奋，白的很放松。
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v***s
发帖数: 1893 | 52 ft,不然一拍就没了。
有的时候我会让陪我练的只打半场，看穆雷的其他练习录像。
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 那白的为啥使劲往红的舒服的地方回啊？
: 明显是要训练红的么。
:
: 松。
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 53 明白了，
到现在为止还没有比我差的人陪我练过，
估计比我还差的，可能就回不去球了，所以也没法陪，呵呵。
【在 v***s 的大作中提到】
: ft,不然一拍就没了。
: 有的时候我会让陪我练的只打半场，看穆雷的其他练习录像。
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k****3
发帖数: 2770 | 54 I am not sure if I am better or not, but it maybe our form look a bit alike.
I think the way we hold the racquet is different. I hold my racquet as
extreme-semi western. he is still more like semi western. :)
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: He is not as good as you, but there is a little bit 神似, hehe,
: esp. the racket head swing, he is not the 优雅 full loop type,
: but a 暴力 type...
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c*********e
发帖数: 1389 | 55 the white one is way out of my league. his groundstroke and movement are
better than all the 4.5 players I have seen in so many years of playoffs.
【在 w********u 的大作中提到】
: 大家在评不认识的人的level的时候都太苛刻了。试想一下你如果跟这个白色衣服的人
: 打，在这样的球
: 速和落点情况下，能不能保证可以持续的把球回过去数个回合。在这里奔过的所有
: video了，只有cc的
: 球速可以一拼。
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c*********e
发帖数: 1389 | 56 你很行！这也挖的出来。
in
【在 n***e 的大作中提到】
: 公布答案
: 5.5 (according to source) the guy in white shirt is a D2 player ranked 43 in
: 2008.
: hehe.
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 57 hehe, you are the high hand standard here because henry and
atm did not ben much before
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: the white one is way out of my league. his groundstroke and movement are
: better than all the 4.5 players I have seen in so many years of playoffs.
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 58 You lose big face this time. I even thought you might be pretending or what.
Even the red guy might be 4.5 or higher considering the pace of the ball.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: White 4.5-, red 3.5+.
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I*******t
发帖数: 1196 | 59 hehe, 运动无止境, 看到上周六那两4.0, 偶几乎绝望了!
【在 c*********e 的大作中提到】
: the white one is way out of my league. his groundstroke and movement are
: better than all the 4.5 players I have seen in so many years of playoffs.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 60 //sigh, 以后偶拒绝评估非youtube video!
错了连重看的机会都没有！
what.
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: You lose big face this time. I even thought you might be pretending or what.
: Even the red guy might be 4.5 or higher considering the pace of the ball.
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 61 I don't believe the red gay can be better than weak 4.0.
I would rate him as strong 3.5, although in my first post in this thread,
I said the white gay is definitely above 5.0.
My coach, according to what I learn from Kennedy this afternoon is, I bet
at least strong 4.5, makes me look much better when he hits with me. But I
played matches against him too, that's different story. I know he does not
want to make me feel that bad, but I still do.
what.
ball.
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: You lose big face this time. I even thought you might be pretending or what.
: Even the red guy might be 4.5 or higher considering the pace of the ball.
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 62 Hi, don't feel bad, it is hard to do it. As I said, the practice video
between two players who have big gap is very misleading.
Somebody did not try to evaluate the players and later came out to laugh
at others. I don't think it is appropriate.
I like your comment, and like to argue with you. It is as fun as playing
tennis. Don't give up.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: //sigh, 以后偶拒绝评估非youtube video!
: 错了连重看的机会都没有！
:
: what.
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 63 It is trying to push KenneyD to do better job. I know he can. Not laughing
at him.
I did not give my guess of the white guy because someone already gave out
the info. But I can bet with you about the red guy's rating. He is at least
4.0 or above.
Block back fast pace ball and fast swing at it are very different. That red
guy's timing and rhythm are much better than most guys' benned here.
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: Hi, don't feel bad, it is hard to do it. As I said, the practice video
: between two players who have big gap is very misleading.
: Somebody did not try to evaluate the players and later came out to laugh
: at others. I don't think it is appropriate.
: I like your comment, and like to argue with you. It is as fun as playing
: tennis. Don't give up.
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 64 I think the different perspective relies on whether the red guy hit the
ball intensionally to the deep left and right corner. If he did so, that
made him at least 4.0, although he missed several. What I suspect is he
just out of control of the ball, because mostly he just returned the
ball in the middle of the court and not deep enough. The backhand around
40' was missed which should have been handled by a 4.0 player, and the
last one, when the return ball is out of rhythm a little, was hit to t
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: It is trying to push KenneyD to do better job. I know he can. Not laughing
: at him.
: I did not give my guess of the white guy because someone already gave out
: the info. But I can bet with you about the red guy's rating. He is at least
: 4.0 or above.
: Block back fast pace ball and fast swing at it are very different. That red
: guy's timing and rhythm are much better than most guys' benned here.
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 65 Just found this video. http://vimeo.com/3140134
I think this is the same red-shirt guy in the other video. His serve is very good, even much better than I predicted. I am now quite sure that you lost the bet. hehe...
There is nothing like "should have" in tennis. It is all percentage. You might say a 4.0 player can kill that ball 80% of the times. But there will always be some percentage that he might miss once or twice.
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: I think the different perspective relies on whether the red guy hit the
: ball intensionally to the deep left and right corner. If he did so, that
: made him at least 4.0, although he missed several. What I suspect is he
: just out of control of the ball, because mostly he just returned the
: ball in the middle of the court and not deep enough. The backhand around
: 40' was missed which should have been handled by a 4.0 player, and the
: last one, when the return ball is out of rhythm a little, was hit to t
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 66 Nah, don't worry about me. It's not that easy to stop a water gun.
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: Hi, don't feel bad, it is hard to do it. As I said, the practice video
: between two players who have big gap is very misleading.
: Somebody did not try to evaluate the players and later came out to laugh
: at others. I don't think it is appropriate.
: I like your comment, and like to argue with you. It is as fun as playing
: tennis. Don't give up.
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 67 check out his the other serve video. I posted this afternoon.
Most of his serves are easy one bounce to fence :P
very
lost
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: Just found this video. http://vimeo.com/3140134
: I think this is the same red-shirt guy in the other video. His serve is very good, even much better than I predicted. I am now quite sure that you lost the bet. hehe...
:
: There is nothing like "should have" in tennis. It is all percentage. You might say a 4.0 player can kill that ball 80% of the times. But there will always be some percentage that he might miss once or twice.
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 68 no big deal for a mistake. That will happen to any body
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Nah, don't worry about me. It's not that easy to stop a water gun.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 69 Actually I was wondering why I was right for so long time.
Already 心虚。。。
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: no big deal for a mistake. That will happen to any body
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 70 Now I see it. It is the "PJ's serve", right? Previously, I thought you are
referring to the white-shirt guy in the ground practice.
His "new serve" (6 month ago) video shows much better serve than the "PJ's
serve" which is 10 months ago. He improved quite fast. My serve improves
much much much slower than his. Really envy.
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: check out his the other serve video. I posted this afternoon.
: Most of his serves are easy one bounce to fence :P
:
: very
: lost
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 71 I think it is him, too.
But only serves can not use to judge a player'e level, tennis is more
about reaction to what is happening, what will happen.
And more over, his serve really does not ensure his 4.0 level.
I mentioned in 万人大奔，I forgot his id, but there is one id's serve is
really impressive, and I think his form is much better, although I can
not tell the speed. However the red shirt guy might have good speed
because he might be taller.
What I would like to remind is: hitting(practicing) w
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: Just found this video. http://vimeo.com/3140134
: I think this is the same red-shirt guy in the other video. His serve is very good, even much better than I predicted. I am now quite sure that you lost the bet. hehe...
:
: There is nothing like "should have" in tennis. It is all percentage. You might say a 4.0 player can kill that ball 80% of the times. But there will always be some percentage that he might miss once or twice.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 72 I just watched his other videos.
He looks like a 4.0 at 10 months ago.
6 months ago his serves improved, as well as backhand. I can't tell
if his forehand is better. So I guess he was 4.0+ 6 months ago,
but not as good as CC yet.
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: Now I see it. It is the "PJ's serve", right? Previously, I thought you are
: referring to the white-shirt guy in the ground practice.
: His "new serve" (6 month ago) video shows much better serve than the "PJ's
: serve" which is 10 months ago. He improved quite fast. My serve improves
: much much much slower than his. Really envy.
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d******n
发帖数: 12850 | 73 foot fault。。。这脚的习惯真不好
very good, even much better than I predicted. I am now quite sure that you
lost the bet. hehe...
might say a 4.0 player can kill that ball 80% of the times. But there will
always be some percentage that he might miss once or twice.
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: Just found this video. http://vimeo.com/3140134
: I think this is the same red-shirt guy in the other video. His serve is very good, even much better than I predicted. I am now quite sure that you lost the bet. hehe...
:
: There is nothing like "should have" in tennis. It is all percentage. You might say a 4.0 player can kill that ball 80% of the times. But there will always be some percentage that he might miss once or twice.
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 74 just checked the 10 month ago serve.
Do you really think that is a 4.0 guy's serve?
And, there is no way to promote a guy's game level up 0.5 within 4 month
unless he, first has talent, second has time to practice 20 hr at least
weekly, third has chance to play at least 3-4 approximately same level
full games weekly.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: I just watched his other videos.
: He looks like a 4.0 at 10 months ago.
: 6 months ago his serves improved, as well as backhand. I can't tell
: if his forehand is better. So I guess he was 4.0+ 6 months ago,
: but not as good as CC yet.
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 75 Serve is an extremely important aspect in tennis. You will know this if you
play more competitive matches. A good server with ok volley and groundy will
be very hard to beat. You cannot always assume others have no tactics
around their serve, right?
By the way, you should judge the level based on what you see, not what you
predict. Posteriori is always much more important than priori. This guy
could be quite devoted to tennis. At least, he has a very good hitting
partner. His serve improvement i
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: just checked the 10 month ago serve.
: Do you really think that is a 4.0 guy's serve?
: And, there is no way to promote a guy's game level up 0.5 within 4 month
: unless he, first has talent, second has time to practice 20 hr at least
: weekly, third has chance to play at least 3-4 approximately same level
: full games weekly.
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 76 I don't see the logic here, :-)
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: Serve is an extremely important aspect in tennis. You will know this if you
: play more competitive matches. A good server with ok volley and groundy will
: be very hard to beat. You cannot always assume others have no tactics
: around their serve, right?
: By the way, you should judge the level based on what you see, not what you
: predict. Posteriori is always much more important than priori. This guy
: could be quite devoted to tennis. At least, he has a very good hitting
: partner. His serve improvement i
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 77
Yes, that's about 80-90 mph consistant serve with some spin. dupont
is an average 4.0 and he serves 90mph.
That doesn't contradict with my claim that he is 4.0+ now ah?
4.0 -> 4.0+, that's less than 0.5 in 4 month.
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: just checked the 10 month ago serve.
: Do you really think that is a 4.0 guy's serve?
: And, there is no way to promote a guy's game level up 0.5 within 4 month
: unless he, first has talent, second has time to practice 20 hr at least
: weekly, third has chance to play at least 3-4 approximately same level
: full games weekly.
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d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 78 Check my posts,
I never said he is/was 3.5-.
My first post
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发信人: dpg (肖浪), 信区: Tennis
标 题: Re: what NTRP level
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Aug 3 12:25:52 2009, 美东)
首先白的和红的肯定差得不是这么点，
白的要高不少，肯定5.0以上。
怀疑是教练和学生的关系，
白的一般回球都回到红的身体近距离，主要还是正手，不管自己前后左右怎么跑，红的
就是想回哪儿会哪儿的。
我和我私教打，就是这么样的。 |
d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 79 我刚才就说了，因为如果他能有意识地control回球，而且到那么深的底线的两个大角
，那么就至少
有4.0了，但是，我从那个小小片段的和高手对打（practice）实在看不出来。
其实Game录像是最好的evidence了。
另外，我不在乎100伪币，虽然我的确也没说他肯定是多少，更没说3.5-了。
要是有答案，输了就给你呗，又不是真钱。
证据如下，刚才为了鼓励一个MM锻炼和临睡前不吃东东：
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发信人: dpg (肖浪), 信区: Fitness
标 题: Re: 总是想半夜吃饭怎么办。。。
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Aug 4 00:00:51 2009, 美东)
对，去跑20分钟，回来包准不饿，你去试试，还饿的话，我给你5个包子。
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if you
groundy will
you
guy
see.
enough?
guess |
d*g
发帖数: 16592 | 80 发球不难练，因为不需要interaction的。
判断对手的球速，旋转，角度，predict来球就困难多了，特别是不管认得不认得，从
前打过没打过的
对手。
不管啥对手，都能保持自己的风格，以自己为主去打，就是大师了。
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
:
: Yes, that's about 80-90 mph consistant serve with some spin. dupont
: is an average 4.0 and he serves 90mph.
: That doesn't contradict with my claim that he is 4.0+ now ah?
: 4.0 -> 4.0+, that's less than 0.5 in 4 month.
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 81 haha, maybe you did not watch closely. From the first view,
I felt you gave low estimate. When I watch more that red
guy's videos, I am pretty sure he is above 3.5. For the
white guy, I can not tell because he is so good. >4.5 are
no difference for me :P
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: Actually I was wondering why I was right for so long time.
: Already 心虚。。。
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 82 he praticed more than you do. And he might have coaches
to help him to improve :)
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: Now I see it. It is the "PJ's serve", right? Previously, I thought you are
: referring to the white-shirt guy in the ground practice.
: His "new serve" (6 month ago) video shows much better serve than the "PJ's
: serve" which is 10 months ago. He improved quite fast. My serve improves
: much much much slower than his. Really envy.
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 83 and maybe he is younger than you as well :P
【在 g*****y 的大作中提到】
: Now I see it. It is the "PJ's serve", right? Previously, I thought you are
: referring to the white-shirt guy in the ground practice.
: His "new serve" (6 month ago) video shows much better serve than the "PJ's
: serve" which is 10 months ago. He improved quite fast. My serve improves
: much much much slower than his. Really envy.
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a**s
发帖数: 9606 | 84 赞坚持
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: I think it is him, too.
: But only serves can not use to judge a player'e level, tennis is more
: about reaction to what is happening, what will happen.
: And more over, his serve really does not ensure his 4.0 level.
: I mentioned in 万人大奔，I forgot his id, but there is one id's serve is
: really impressive, and I think his form is much better, although I can
: not tell the speed. However the red shirt guy might have good speed
: because he might be taller.
: What I would like to remind is: hitting(practicing) w
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d****r
发帖数: 1499 | |
w********u
发帖数: 1865 | 86 万人奔里还有比“new serve”录像里更impressive的发球？？？
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: I think it is him, too.
: But only serves can not use to judge a player'e level, tennis is more
: about reaction to what is happening, what will happen.
: And more over, his serve really does not ensure his 4.0 level.
: I mentioned in 万人大奔，I forgot his id, but there is one id's serve is
: really impressive, and I think his form is much better, although I can
: not tell the speed. However the red shirt guy might have good speed
: because he might be taller.
: What I would like to remind is: hitting(practicing) w
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K****D
发帖数: 30533 | 87 JudieYan? It's better than the old serve. Not sure about the new
serve, hehe.
【在 w********u 的大作中提到】
: 万人奔里还有比“new serve”录像里更impressive的发球？？？
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 88 可能你这方面天赋好，我却觉得发球是最难练的一项技术。有一阵子，我每隔一天，早
上去练一小时发球，可是很快就发现左膝盖受不了了（我是右撇子，但右腿dominant，
左腿在发球蹲下的过程中，承受不了），只好中断高强度发球练习，只能一星期练一两
个小时。
可是一两年过去了，虽然发球熟练了，可是前一阵子一录像，发现多了好几个坏习惯，
纠正坏习惯比初练发球还要困难，现在也还没纠正过来，还在努力中。。。
以上还没涉及consistency和placement，唉，可能还是应该请教练，录像的feedback太
慢了，除非发一两个，立刻回放一下。
【在 d*g 的大作中提到】
: 发球不难练，因为不需要interaction的。
: 判断对手的球速，旋转，角度，predict来球就困难多了，特别是不管认得不认得，从
: 前打过没打过的
: 对手。
: 不管啥对手，都能保持自己的风格，以自己为主去打，就是大师了。
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 89 费劲码这么多字，不就是想混点伪币么，logic能换几个伪币啊？
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: I don't see the logic here, :-)
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 90 I have beaten 13 years old kids before. hahahaha...
【在 a**s 的大作中提到】
: and maybe he is younger than you as well :P
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g*****y
发帖数: 7271 | 91 Yeah. Apart from CC and Henry's serve, I think JudieYan's serve is very
impressive. My only concern about JudieYan's serve is that he tosses quite
in front and hence has to jump quite a bit into the court and hit quite flat
, which might lower his serve percentage.
But this guy's new serve has very good spin, pace and control. It could be
lethal if he practices his placement as well.
【在 K****D 的大作中提到】
: JudieYan? It's better than the old serve. Not sure about the new
: serve, hehe.
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