Z****g
发帖数: 13731 | 1 ITM是不是成本收益比要大一些，但风险相对较小？ |
d****a
发帖数: 2901 | 2 你也玩这个？
【在 Z****g 的大作中提到】
: ITM是不是成本收益比要大一些，但风险相对较小？
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S*******k
发帖数: 106 | 3 俺从来都是同时有买又有卖，呵呵。
【在 Z****g 的大作中提到】
: ITM是不是成本收益比要大一些，但风险相对较小？
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Z****g
发帖数: 13731 | 4 一直玩儿，简单的靠和扑，你指点指点？
【在 d****a 的大作中提到】
: 你也玩这个？
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Z****g
发帖数: 13731 | 5 who needs deep ITM call or put? why?
【在 Z****g 的大作中提到】
: ITM是不是成本收益比要大一些，但风险相对较小？
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S*******k
发帖数: 106 | 6 Deep ITM call or put behave much similar to stocks, but with much less money
. Say the stock is $50, and you
need $5000 to hold 100 shares, but if you buy 1 $35 (deep ITM) call, with
maybe only $1700. When the stock
increase $5. with 100 shares the increase is $500, with 1 $35 call, the
increase is only a little less than $500,
maybe $450.
You see the edge here? with 1 $35 call, you use ~$1700 to get $450, which is
~25% gain. This is much better
than use $5000 to get $500, which is only 10%. Of course, this example is
oversimplified, but just to make the
point.
【在 Z****g 的大作中提到】
: who needs deep ITM call or put? why?
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Z****g
发帖数: 13731 | 7 thanks for the explanation. sent baozi for the effort to type so much...
money
is
【在 S*******k 的大作中提到】
: Deep ITM call or put behave much similar to stocks, but with much less money
: . Say the stock is $50, and you
: need $5000 to hold 100 shares, but if you buy 1 $35 (deep ITM) call, with
: maybe only $1700. When the stock
: increase $5. with 100 shares the increase is $500, with 1 $35 call, the
: increase is only a little less than $500,
: maybe $450.
: You see the edge here? with 1 $35 call, you use ~$1700 to get $450, which is
: ~25% gain. This is much better
: than use $5000 to get $500, which is only 10%. Of course, this example is
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S*******k
发帖数: 106 | 8 You are welcome, and thanks for baozi.
I'm glad you find it useful.
【在 Z****g 的大作中提到】
: thanks for the explanation. sent baozi for the effort to type so much...
:
: money
: is
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d****a
发帖数: 2901 | 9 I don't use OTM option unless I am sure about the direction. I like short
put or call.
【在 Z****g 的大作中提到】
: 一直玩儿，简单的靠和扑，你指点指点？
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s*******d
发帖数: 47 | 10 wow, you have a lot of margin.
【在 d****a 的大作中提到】
: I don't use OTM option unless I am sure about the direction. I like short
: put or call.
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S*******k
发帖数: 106 | 11 握握手，哈哈！
I usually short some and buy some together.
【在 d****a 的大作中提到】
: I don't use OTM option unless I am sure about the direction. I like short
: put or call.
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S*******k
发帖数: 106 | 12 Margin is something over-rated. When you have a non-trivial account, you can
almost ignore its limit.
【在 s*******d 的大作中提到】
: wow, you have a lot of margin.
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w******s
发帖数: 16209 | 13 我经常买的时候是itm，很快就变成otm了
【在 Z****g 的大作中提到】
: ITM是不是成本收益比要大一些，但风险相对较小？
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S*******k
发帖数: 106 | 14 村长又来捣浆糊了。卖说成买了吧。BTW, what do you think of Gold mid-term?
【在 w******s 的大作中提到】
: 我经常买的时候是itm，很快就变成otm了
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d****a
发帖数: 2901 | 15
That is usual.
【在 w******s 的大作中提到】
: 我经常买的时候是itm，很快就变成otm了
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m******l
发帖数: 1690 | 16 there are lots of different ways to leverage option with different
strategies. if you plan to hold a stock for long term and think the stock
will appreciate over time, sell OTM calls to generate regular income. and
you can buy the next strike price call in case the price goes up quickly. |
B**********r
发帖数: 7517 | 17 I sell "modified" ITM straddles on 3x ETFs. It is very safe.
Let us say we can sell FAS straddle: ITM calls/puts. I don't want to own any
long positions of these ETFs because of the hidden time-decays. So my "
modified" straddle is defined as:
FAS calls/FAZ calls. I get both the premium and the time-decay value. If
things go really bad, say the market move huge in one direction, I may lose
some value. I am not worried. I am ready to hold short positions of any of
these 3x bull/bear ETFs, and use those short position to hedge more modified
straddles.
Some calculation is needed, to make sure my account will be safe even if DOW
drops/rises 3000 points in a couple of days. Otherwise, with high
probability, it is easy to earn 5% each month.
I like the FAS/FAZ pair more than TNA/TZA because the weekly options on FAS/
FAZ.
【在 Z****g 的大作中提到】
: ITM是不是成本收益比要大一些，但风险相对较小？
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b********t
发帖数: 8181 | 18 of course OTM, that's the whole point of buying options.
【在 Z****g 的大作中提到】
: ITM是不是成本收益比要大一些，但风险相对较小？
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M**c
发帖数: 19 | 19 It's hard to answer, because you have to define your P/L expectation and
time frame.
Start with some good option books and a paper trading account, and all
your questions would be answered by yourself.
【在 Z****g 的大作中提到】
: ITM是不是成本收益比要大一些，但风险相对较小？
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w*****7
发帖数: 5038 | 20 OTM如果很快到期，死的很快
Time Decay的厉害
【在 b********t 的大作中提到】
: of course OTM, that's the whole point of buying options.
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Z****g
发帖数: 13731 | 21 这也是我一直做的。
这种风险大，收益大。要靠仓位控制风险。
【在 b********t 的大作中提到】
: of course OTM, that's the whole point of buying options.
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j***b
发帖数: 5901 | 22 ITM 和 OTM两种其实说不上那个风险大。
OTM完全靠时间价值，貌似风险大。其实一旦股票往相反方向快速运动很明显OTM的
option贬值比ITM的慢。
我觉得是OTM怕猪，ITM怕方向赌错。 |
Z****g
发帖数: 13731 | 23 有道理
【在 j***b 的大作中提到】
: ITM 和 OTM两种其实说不上那个风险大。
: OTM完全靠时间价值，貌似风险大。其实一旦股票往相反方向快速运动很明显OTM的
: option贬值比ITM的慢。
: 我觉得是OTM怕猪，ITM怕方向赌错。
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P*B
发帖数: 2876 | 24 买 closest to stock price de |
