q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 JobHunting 讨论区 】
发信人: quantx (X矿工), 信区: JobHunting
标 题: msft sdet
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Mar 11 13:59:36 2011, 美东)
if someone declines an offer of msft sdet, will it affect the future
application on sde?
how about goog and amzn? |
w*****g
发帖数: 4298 | |
q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 3 is msft sdet a tester role, or developer role?
goog recruiter said their sdet is also 100% developer role under a test org.
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: no impact
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j***e
发帖数: 2428 | 4 depend on the group and project
in msft some devs are testers in dev org
org.
【在 q****x 的大作中提到】
: is msft sdet a tester role, or developer role?
: goog recruiter said their sdet is also 100% developer role under a test org.
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q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 5 so what is exactly the sdet do daily, writing test automation tool, or
manually do tests like qa's do?
【在 j***e 的大作中提到】
: depend on the group and project
: in msft some devs are testers in dev org
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: org.
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b********7
发帖数: 12906 | 6 depending on which group/team u r in. in some teams sdets write test plans
and automations. in some other teams, sdets do nothing. |
q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 7 do nothing? sounds too good to be true.
【在 b********7 的大作中提到】
: depending on which group/team u r in. in some teams sdets write test plans
: and automations. in some other teams, sdets do nothing.
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w*****g
发帖数: 4298 | 8 do nothing = manual test |
b********7
发帖数: 12906 | 9 正解. 有些SDET连C CODE都写不出来.
【在 w*****g 的大作中提到】
: do nothing = manual test
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h***o
发帖数: 1494 | 10 不要小看manual test呀。Test automation is nothing. |
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b********7
发帖数: 12906 | 11 who said manual test is not important?
【在 h***o 的大作中提到】
: 不要小看manual test呀。Test automation is nothing.
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q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 12 but manual test has nothing to do with coding skill.
【在 b********7 的大作中提到】
: who said manual test is not important?
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b********7
发帖数: 12906 | 13 exactly. u can't rely 100% on manual testing. It's a good suppliment to
automation.
【在 q****x 的大作中提到】
: but manual test has nothing to do with coding skill.
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w**a
发帖数: 4743 | 14 有些做纯手工test，
有些做automation tool，
有些做数据分析，数学建模，
有些做debuging和troubleshooting。
....
depends on the org, team and products.
【在 q****x 的大作中提到】
: so what is exactly the sdet do daily, writing test automation tool, or
: manually do tests like qa's do?
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h***o
发帖数: 1494 | 15
Not really. Even coding is manual. Who uses machine to code?
【在 q****x 的大作中提到】
: but manual test has nothing to do with coding skill.
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b********7
发帖数: 12906 | 16 some code can be auto-generated.
【在 h***o 的大作中提到】
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: Not really. Even coding is manual. Who uses machine to code?
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h***o
发帖数: 1494 | 17
My point is some manual test needs strong coding skills.
【在 b********7 的大作中提到】
: some code can be auto-generated.
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q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 18 really? can u show me an example?
【在 h***o 的大作中提到】
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: My point is some manual test needs strong coding skills.
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b********7
发帖数: 12906 | 19 huduo is a live example.
【在 q****x 的大作中提到】
: really? can u show me an example?
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h***o
发帖数: 1494 | 20
Security code audit
pentest
fault injection
etc.
test automation is really easy thing to do. Lots of test tasks are
impossible to automate, have to be performed manually.
【在 q****x 的大作中提到】
: really? can u show me an example?
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q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 21 sorry, what is code audit, sth like code review?
【在 h***o 的大作中提到】
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: Security code audit
: pentest
: fault injection
: etc.
: test automation is really easy thing to do. Lots of test tasks are
: impossible to automate, have to be performed manually.
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h***o
发帖数: 1494 | 22
Yes.
【在 q****x 的大作中提到】
: sorry, what is code audit, sth like code review?
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q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 23 how come code review becomes testing? reading code is no less difficult than
writing.
【在 h***o 的大作中提到】
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: Yes.
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h***o
发帖数: 1494 | 24
than
Testing is to find bugs or prevent bugs. You can achieve both through code
review efficiently. Reading code may be easy, but finding bugs through it
is not as easy as you think, especially some security bugs.
【在 q****x 的大作中提到】
: how come code review becomes testing? reading code is no less difficult than
: writing.
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p**e
发帖数: 37 | 25 so you know nothing about what does sdet do?
than
【在 q****x 的大作中提到】
: how come code review becomes testing? reading code is no less difficult than
: writing.
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q****x
发帖数: 7404 | 26 no, testing is just one approach to find bugs. u can't put all other
approaches in this domain.
for example, can u say program proving through loop invariant also a testing
technique? obviously not.
btw, actually i do think reading code sometimes is harder than writing, if
the code is not well written.
【在 h***o 的大作中提到】
:
: than
: Testing is to find bugs or prevent bugs. You can achieve both through code
: review efficiently. Reading code may be easy, but finding bugs through it
: is not as easy as you think, especially some security bugs.
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