M******e 发帖数: 382 | 1 (This article is widespread like a virus, so it deserves responses, even
though its content is full of factual errors and empty of logic)
Ms. Jenn (A Chinese Canadian)’s article for SCA5 starts with a rhetorical
title: “Top 5 anti-Affirmative Action Myths About SCA5 | #NoLiesNoHate”.
Unfortunately, right in the second paragraph, before she could even bring up
a “lie” from anti-SCA5 camp, Ms. Jenn created a lie of her own:
“Prop 209 has had a devastating effect on UC schools: Black, Latino …
admission rates have dropped precipitously relative to the pace of their
population growth over the last twenty years”.
The language looks so familiar that it immediately reminds us SCA5 author’s
now infamous press release: “As a result (of prop 209), there has been a
precipitous drop in the percentage of Latino… students at California public
universities”. By now we all know this is a lie. Every bit of data from UC
proved this is a ridiculous assertion, even the author’s ally, UC
Admissions Director, had to admit that Latino percentage in UC almost
doubled after passing prop 209.
Ms. Jenn is smarter than that, so she added “relative to the pace of their
population growth”. But it is still a lie. From 1997 to now, Latino’s
share in California’s high school graduates grew about 50%, much less than
their 100% UC share growth. So there is NO drop for Latinos relatively to
the population, let alone “devastating effect” and “dropped precipitously
”.
With a crumbling foundation, Ms. Jenn went on to build her case for SCA5.
She argued that US Constitution permits racial discrimination in high
education. But she apparently doesn’t know, that just last year in the
latest case Fisher v. University of Texas, US Supreme Court ruled that race
may not be used as a factor in admissions where “workable race-neutral
alternatives would produce the educational benefits of diversity.” This
exactly applies to UC system, which is rated among the most diversified
universities in the nation by the New York Times, through “race-neutral”
policies.
Ms. Jenn then tried to use the same trick which SCA5 author repeatedly used,
that SCA5 is not a quota. Of course they dare not to mention any “quota”
in SCA5, they are not so dumb to challenge US Constitution. Instead they
tried hard to push racial discrimination as close as possible to the “quota
” red line: “California’s public universities and colleges should have
all tools at their disposal to ensure their campuses reflect the
demographics of our state.” The SCA5 author claimed. Is that loud and clear
, Ms. Jenn? BTW, even if it’s not quota, we are firmly against any racial
discrimination. We don’t allow you to steal 50% of our assets, doesn’t
mean it is fine to steal our wallets, computers and other personal
properties. We will fight any theft from the democratic party politicians.
Ms. Jenn then presented a little nice chart to show that Ivy League schools
don’t cap Asian-Americans to their population percentage, so there is no “
quota”. As if capping to 3X population percentage is not a “quota”. But,
Ms. Jenn, any capping of Asian American students is indeed a “quota”. And
there is an article about the de facto “quota” in Ivy League schools for
your reference:
http://www.theamericanconservative.com/articles/the-myth-of-ame
Now Ms. Jenn turned on to another myth: “Myth #4: Affirmative action lets
in “unqualified” or “less qualified” Black and Latino students over more
qualified Asian Americans, and a college admissions system that only
considers grades and SATs is more fair and objective (from 80-20).”
Ms. Jenn, the first half of your claimed “Myth” is not a myth at all, it’
s a FACT. Please spend some time reading Richard Sanders’ famous article:
“The Painful Truth About Affirmative Action”:
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2012/10/the-painful
Regarding the second half of the Myth, it is created by Ms. Jenn herself. I
have never heard anyone saying that “a college admissions system that ONLY
considers grades and SATs is more fair and objective”. We understand that
grades and SATs are just parts of the entire admission criteria, but race
should NEVER be. Grades and SATs have their own problems, just like our
democracy is not perfect and sometimes can produce monsters like SCA5. Just
like imperfect democracy doesn’t mean we should resort to totalitarianism,
imperfect SATs doesn’t mean we need to use racism in college admission.
Near the end of the article, Ms. Jenn is confident that most Asian Americans
in California would support SCA5, and cited a recent survey. Ms. Jenn, you
should not rely on an outdated survey to prove your point. Just come here,
you will see A Community Awoken, as David Lehrer described, you will see
that we are united and determined to defeat the injustice, defeat your
beloved monster SCA5. | l*****k 发帖数: 1059 | 2 写得真好
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【在 M******e 的大作中提到】 : (This article is widespread like a virus, so it deserves responses, even : though its content is full of factual errors and empty of logic) : Ms. Jenn (A Chinese Canadian)’s article for SCA5 starts with a rhetorical : title: “Top 5 anti-Affirmative Action Myths About SCA5 | #NoLiesNoHate”. : Unfortunately, right in the second paragraph, before she could even bring up : a “lie” from anti-SCA5 camp, Ms. Jenn created a lie of her own: : “Prop 209 has had a devastating effect on UC schools: Black, Latino … : admission rates have dropped precipitously relative to the pace of their : population growth over the last twenty years”. : The language looks so familiar that it immediately reminds us SCA5 author’s
| a******d 发帖数: 191 | 3 You should post it to her blog. She and her trolls are flooding her blog
with lies and fake justices.
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【在 M******e 的大作中提到】 : (This article is widespread like a virus, so it deserves responses, even : though its content is full of factual errors and empty of logic) : Ms. Jenn (A Chinese Canadian)’s article for SCA5 starts with a rhetorical : title: “Top 5 anti-Affirmative Action Myths About SCA5 | #NoLiesNoHate”. : Unfortunately, right in the second paragraph, before she could even bring up : a “lie” from anti-SCA5 camp, Ms. Jenn created a lie of her own: : “Prop 209 has had a devastating effect on UC schools: Black, Latino … : admission rates have dropped precipitously relative to the pace of their : population growth over the last twenty years”. : The language looks so familiar that it immediately reminds us SCA5 author’s
| r****c 发帖数: 2585 | 4 为什么不搞人肉 她这压小学中学都给翻出来
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【在 M******e 的大作中提到】 : (This article is widespread like a virus, so it deserves responses, even : though its content is full of factual errors and empty of logic) : Ms. Jenn (A Chinese Canadian)’s article for SCA5 starts with a rhetorical : title: “Top 5 anti-Affirmative Action Myths About SCA5 | #NoLiesNoHate”. : Unfortunately, right in the second paragraph, before she could even bring up : a “lie” from anti-SCA5 camp, Ms. Jenn created a lie of her own: : “Prop 209 has had a devastating effect on UC schools: Black, Latino … : admission rates have dropped precipitously relative to the pace of their : population growth over the last twenty years”. : The language looks so familiar that it immediately reminds us SCA5 author’s
| k****m 发帖数: 4670 | 5 唉,要理解,不是每个人都想的一样,大多数反对SCA-5,我们就胜利了
但十分反感有些媒体拿极少数亚裔的说法来代表大多数亚裔的想法
这是混淆视听
可恶! | M******e 发帖数: 382 | 6 posted but "moderation" is required, so it might not be shown there.
【在 a******d 的大作中提到】 : You should post it to her blog. She and her trolls are flooding her blog : with lies and fake justices. : : up : ’s
| k*****i 发帖数: 122 | 7 写的太好了!应该有个地方收藏才好.bbs上太容易沉下去了.
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【在 M******e 的大作中提到】 : (This article is widespread like a virus, so it deserves responses, even : though its content is full of factual errors and empty of logic) : Ms. Jenn (A Chinese Canadian)’s article for SCA5 starts with a rhetorical : title: “Top 5 anti-Affirmative Action Myths About SCA5 | #NoLiesNoHate”. : Unfortunately, right in the second paragraph, before she could even bring up : a “lie” from anti-SCA5 camp, Ms. Jenn created a lie of her own: : “Prop 209 has had a devastating effect on UC schools: Black, Latino … : admission rates have dropped precipitously relative to the pace of their : population growth over the last twenty years”. : The language looks so familiar that it immediately reminds us SCA5 author’s
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