w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 1 Had a nice run with Dr. Lieberman again yesterday, heard some interesting
stuff.
1. They conducted a research on 14-16 yr old kids in a Kenyan school. These
are averaging kids, completely untrained athletically (except that they run
between school and home daily). Their average VO2max is the mid 70s.
2. There are tons of Kenyan runners who have never been coached and train by
themselves, who would easily win most of the marathon races in the US.
3. Mary Keitany told him that she will win this year's London marathon. (She
already broke the HM world record this year.)
4. Forefoot runners suffer from much fewer injuries than heelstrikers, as
confirmed through the study of track athletes on college teams. But forefoot
runners canNOT wear shoes with thick heels, because it'd force you to land
like a ballerina and doing that would increase the impact. Forefoot runners
simply fare better wearing flats.
5. They are trying to organize a fun run with Kenyan elites in the Boston
area ("barefoot with Kenyans?").
6. Many distance running track coaches don't teach forms and probably don't
even know what is the best running form. This is quite bizarre because in
other every sport (including sprints) the coaches begin by teaching forms. |
m**k
发帖数: 18660 | 2 Good to know pretty interesting. A little bias but expexted:)
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【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Had a nice run with Dr. Lieberman again yesterday, heard some interesting
: stuff.
: 1. They conducted a research on 14-16 yr old kids in a Kenyan school. These
: are averaging kids, completely untrained athletically (except that they run
: between school and home daily). Their average VO2max is the mid 70s.
: 2. There are tons of Kenyan runners who have never been coached and train by
: themselves, who would easily win most of the marathon races in the US.
: 3. Mary Keitany told him that she will win this year's London marathon. (She
: already broke the HM world record this year.)
: 4. Forefoot runners suffer from much fewer injuries than heelstrikers, as
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 3 not sure what you mean by bias.
let's see. on one hand we've got lab tests done in harvard medical school,
on the other hand there are advertisements by shoe companies and popular
magazine articles. hmm, I wonder who I should trust.
【在 m**k 的大作中提到】
: Good to know pretty interesting. A little bias but expexted:)
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: These
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: She
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v***l
发帖数: 2623 | 4 你下次能不能问问他，这类研究的funding主要是从哪里来的？
我对ITB和stress fracture的研究有些兴趣，但是不能免俗的首先想到这些方向是否好
拿funding。
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【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Had a nice run with Dr. Lieberman again yesterday, heard some interesting
: stuff.
: 1. They conducted a research on 14-16 yr old kids in a Kenyan school. These
: are averaging kids, completely untrained athletically (except that they run
: between school and home daily). Their average VO2max is the mid 70s.
: 2. There are tons of Kenyan runners who have never been coached and train by
: themselves, who would easily win most of the marathon races in the US.
: 3. Mary Keitany told him that she will win this year's London marathon. (She
: already broke the HM world record this year.)
: 4. Forefoot runners suffer from much fewer injuries than heelstrikers, as
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 5 while on vacation, i've been wearing speedstar for all my runs. i don't want
to go back to cumulus any more. |
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 6 I'll keep that in mind next time.
【在 v***l 的大作中提到】
: 你下次能不能问问他，这类研究的funding主要是从哪里来的？
: 我对ITB和stress fracture的研究有些兴趣，但是不能免俗的首先想到这些方向是否好
: 拿funding。
:
: These
: run
: by
: She
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v***l
发帖数: 2623 | 7 太感谢了 ^_^
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: I'll keep that in mind next time.
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 8 有funding了招PhD的时候别忘了我们这些兄弟姐妹
【在 v***l 的大作中提到】
: 太感谢了 ^_^
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 9 how do the cross country flats compare with speedstar? I don't want to spend
more than $50 on a pair of shoes any more.
want
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: while on vacation, i've been wearing speedstar for all my runs. i don't want
: to go back to cumulus any more.
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v***l
发帖数: 2623 | 10 我今天爬墙爬得差点掉眼泪了......
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: 有funding了招PhD的时候别忘了我们这些兄弟姐妹
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b***i
发帖数: 10018 | 11 I haven't run more than a few miles in cross country flats. But after
discount, speedstar costs around $50, mach costs around $25. I think
speedstar can at least outlast 2 pairs of mach.
spend
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: how do the cross country flats compare with speedstar? I don't want to spend
: more than $50 on a pair of shoes any more.
:
: want
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R*****s
发帖数: 41236 | 12 没觉得多大区别啊
cumulus: Heel (24mm), Forefoot (14mm)
speedstar: Heel (21mm), Forefoot (11mm)
坡度其实没差好多。。
want
【在 b***i 的大作中提到】
: while on vacation, i've been wearing speedstar for all my runs. i don't want
: to go back to cumulus any more.
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 13 hmm, that explains why I felt that speedstar has too much heels as well. my
only pair of real flats, mizuno wave universe, is expensive and is not very
durable. I'm going to try some cheaper flats.
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 没觉得多大区别啊
: cumulus: Heel (24mm), Forefoot (14mm)
: speedstar: Heel (21mm), Forefoot (11mm)
: 坡度其实没差好多。。
:
: want
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c*******r
发帖数: 13580 | 14 你招我读你的phd我保证毕业前你能爬5.10a
【在 v***l 的大作中提到】
: 我今天爬墙爬得差点掉眼泪了......
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f*******g
发帖数: 3304 | 15 攀岩不就是你的强项吗？
有FUND了后 把俺也收编读PHD了吧？
【在 v***l 的大作中提到】
: 我今天爬墙爬得差点掉眼泪了......
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 16 found a great site:
http://birthdayshoes.com/barefoot-running-shoes
with a list of shoes with small heel-to-forefoot drop (less than 6mm).
Now I'll try to wear mizuno wave universe more often. |
g****l
发帖数: 644 | 17 hm...interesting
下午换flat跑跑
Lieberman的网页看起来蛮有意思
同curious哪里的funding |
w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 18 This website is quite instructive:
http://www.barefootrunning.fas.harvard.edu/
They also seem to answer the question about funding on the website - it is
supported by the university and in part by...vibram. hoho.
【在 g****l 的大作中提到】
: hm...interesting
: 下午换flat跑跑
: Lieberman的网页看起来蛮有意思
: 同curious哪里的funding
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g********s
发帖数: 1969 | 19 Kenyan, gene gene, nobody can beat it.
Next time, Speedstar is the next on the shopping list. |
v***l
发帖数: 2623 | 20 你为啥还要再读个phd？找你做postdoc成吗？
【在 c*******r 的大作中提到】
: 你招我读你的phd我保证毕业前你能爬5.10a
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v***l
发帖数: 2623 | 21 能跑马拉松的人，读phd就是小菜了，哈哈。
【在 f*******g 的大作中提到】
: 攀岩不就是你的强项吗？
: 有FUND了后 把俺也收编读PHD了吧？
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w*******s
发帖数: 980 | 22 Gene?
If you had to run 10km to school and 10km back on hilly trail every day, I
am sure you will be good at marathon as well.
【在 g********s 的大作中提到】
: Kenyan, gene gene, nobody can beat it.
: Next time, Speedstar is the next on the shopping list.
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m**k
发帖数: 18660 | 23 bias这里不是贬义。hoho. 当然他的结果更有说服力。no doubt about it..
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: not sure what you mean by bias.
: let's see. on one hand we've got lab tests done in harvard medical school,
: on the other hand there are advertisements by shoe companies and popular
: magazine articles. hmm, I wonder who I should trust.
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w****1
发帖数: 4931 | 24 did my workout in flats today, didn't wear socks coz I wanted to feel the
ground. 1 hour 8.6-9.5mph as usual.
got two massive blisters but feel great.:) |
y******n
发帖数: 4527 | 25 but it feels dramatically different.
【在 R*****s 的大作中提到】
: 没觉得多大区别啊
: cumulus: Heel (24mm), Forefoot (14mm)
: speedstar: Heel (21mm), Forefoot (11mm)
: 坡度其实没差好多。。
:
: want
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y******n
发帖数: 4527 | 26 hoho, you are in pretty good shape now.
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: did my workout in flats today, didn't wear socks coz I wanted to feel the
: ground. 1 hour 8.6-9.5mph as usual.
: got two massive blisters but feel great.:)
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b********k
发帖数: 427 | 27 谢谢分享，长见识了。
These
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She
【在 w****1 的大作中提到】
: Had a nice run with Dr. Lieberman again yesterday, heard some interesting
: stuff.
: 1. They conducted a research on 14-16 yr old kids in a Kenyan school. These
: are averaging kids, completely untrained athletically (except that they run
: between school and home daily). Their average VO2max is the mid 70s.
: 2. There are tons of Kenyan runners who have never been coached and train by
: themselves, who would easily win most of the marathon races in the US.
: 3. Mary Keitany told him that she will win this year's London marathon. (She
: already broke the HM world record this year.)
: 4. Forefoot runners suffer from much fewer injuries than heelstrikers, as
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