k*****e
发帖数: 22013 | 1 如果受理，今天早上就应该发出来。结果prop8不在今天早上的list里面。
如果不受理，下周一就会发出来。Prop 8应该在下周一的list里，等下周一最终确认吧。
据分析，现在有好几个挑战DOMA的案子。
最高法院应该是准备受理DOMA的案子，毕竟DOMA才是管着全国的。 |
m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 2 加州同志表示：高兴得都不知道该咋办了，感谢政府感谢党 |
D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 3 Black humor LOL?
感谢政府感谢党
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】
: 加州同志表示：高兴得都不知道该咋办了，感谢政府感谢党
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m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 4 你以为呢？LOL
【在 D**S 的大作中提到】
: Black humor LOL?
:
: 感谢政府感谢党
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t*******e
发帖数: 2113 | 5 之前就有新聞分析過，高院可能不會受理prop 8的案子。
上個星期的新聞，金斯堡在科羅拉多大學演講的時候，
被問及高院是否會審理DOMA是否違憲的案子，
金斯堡說我不能回答這個問題，
不過在本年度 （10/2012-06/2013），
挑戰DOMA違憲的案件就會抵達高院。
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57516427/justice-ginsburg-e
marriage-case-in-2013/
Ginsburg spoke at the University of Colorado in Boulder. She was asked a
student-submitted question about the equal-protection clause and whether the
nation's high court would consider it applying to sexual orientation.
Ginsburg said with a smile that she couldn't answer the question. She said
she
could not talk about matters that would come to the court, and that the
Defense
of Marriage Act would probably be up soon.
"I think it's most likely that we will have that issue before the court
toward
the end of the current term," she said.
吧。
【在 k*****e 的大作中提到】
: 如果受理，今天早上就应该发出来。结果prop8不在今天早上的list里面。
: 如果不受理，下周一就会发出来。Prop 8应该在下周一的list里，等下周一最终确认吧。
: 据分析，现在有好几个挑战DOMA的案子。
: 最高法院应该是准备受理DOMA的案子，毕竟DOMA才是管着全国的。
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D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 6 她这不是还是相当于说了？
the
【在 t*******e 的大作中提到】
: 之前就有新聞分析過，高院可能不會受理prop 8的案子。
: 上個星期的新聞，金斯堡在科羅拉多大學演講的時候，
: 被問及高院是否會審理DOMA是否違憲的案子，
: 金斯堡說我不能回答這個問題，
: 不過在本年度 （10/2012-06/2013），
: 挑戰DOMA違憲的案件就會抵達高院。
: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57516427/justice-ginsburg-e
: marriage-case-in-2013/
: Ginsburg spoke at the University of Colorado in Boulder. She was asked a
: student-submitted question about the equal-protection clause and whether the
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m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 7 抵達高院=/=會審理
【在 D**S 的大作中提到】
: 她这不是还是相当于说了？
:
: the
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t*******e
发帖数: 2113 | 8
問她的問題是平等條例會不會適用於性取向。
法學院的學生問得非常精確。
她打了個太極拳，她的回答是地球人都知道的事情，
這個議題本年度內會抵達高院。
也就是說，2013六月以前，高院就會做出審理。
審理的結果麼，我個人認為，DOMA第三條的死期到了。
【在 D**S 的大作中提到】
: 她这不是还是相当于说了？
:
: the
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D**S
发帖数: 24887 | 9 我看贴不仔细
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】
: 抵達高院=/=會審理
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m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 10 我觉得7:2都有可能
【在 t*******e 的大作中提到】
:
: 問她的問題是平等條例會不會適用於性取向。
: 法學院的學生問得非常精確。
: 她打了個太極拳，她的回答是地球人都知道的事情，
: 這個議題本年度內會抵達高院。
: 也就是說，2013六月以前，高院就會做出審理。
: 審理的結果麼，我個人認為，DOMA第三條的死期到了。
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t*******e
发帖数: 2113 | 11
哈哈哈，低調，低調。。。6-3就很好了。。。。
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】
: 我觉得7:2都有可能
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t*******e
发帖数: 2113 | 12
審理的可能性非常非常大，對於這種議題，高院不可能視而不見的吧。
【在 m******1 的大作中提到】
: 抵達高院=/=會審理
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m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 13 嗯，肯定的。我那贴是回答DSJS：到达高院不等于会审理。
【在 t*******e 的大作中提到】
:
: 審理的可能性非常非常大，對於這種議題，高院不可能視而不見的吧。
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R****y
发帖数: 456 | 14 借各位吉言啦！如果08十一月当选，DOMA明年废除，一切就再完美不过了！不然14年真
要考虑移民加拿大了。 |
m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 15 You can rest assured. :)
【在 R****y 的大作中提到】
: 借各位吉言啦！如果08十一月当选，DOMA明年废除，一切就再完美不过了！不然14年真
: 要考虑移民加拿大了。
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s*****n
发帖数: 325 | |
t*******e
发帖数: 2113 | |
m******1
发帖数: 19713 | 18 U.S. Supreme Court delays decision on Proposition 8 appeal
On its first official day of the 2012-13 session, the U.S. Supreme Court on
Monday did not include the Proposition 8 case on the list of cases it would
or would not review.
Monday’s was the third list of cases released thus far by the Supreme Court
for this session. The justices originally scheduled the case, Hollingsworth
v. Perry, for discussion in their September 24 meeting, prompting many to
speculate that the court would announce on either September 25 or October 1
whether it would take up the appeal from those seeking to preserve the ban
on same-sex marriages in California.
But on Wednesday afternoon, September 26, a notice was posted in the press
room at the Supreme Court, indicating the case was being “rescheduled” for
a later conference meeting. As of deadline this week, the docket did not
indicate a new conference date for the highly watched case.
Ted Olson and David Boies, lead attorneys on the American Foundation for
Equal Rights legal team that has won court victories striking down
Proposition 8, did not respond to queries for comment.
But Therese Stewart, Chief Deputy City Attorney for San Francisco, said the
rescheduling of Hollingsworth may signal the high court is considering “
whether it will take Perry and the DOMA cases together.” Or they may want
to ensure their handling of the marriage cases don’t have “any impact on
the election.”
“But I think the former is the more likely reason it was put over,” said
Stewart.
The Supreme Court calendar indicates only three conference meeting dates for
the justices in October –all Fridays—October 5, 12, 26. Typically, if a
case is discussed in conference, its disposition is announced the following
Monday (or if Monday is a holiday, then Tuesday).
Regardless of what the court decides to do, the news will be significant.
If the court takes review, then both sides will brace themselves for a
decision that could make statewide same-sex marriage bans more difficult or
easier to defend.
If the court decides not to take the appeal, then same-sex couples in
California will soon be able to obtain marriage licenses again. Such a
development on its own would boost momentum for a growing acceptance of
marriage equality around the country, and make California the eighth state,
plus the District of Columbia to provide for equal protection in marriage.
By not hearing the appeal of Prop 8 supporters, the court would be leaving
as precedent, the Ninth Circuit’s decision that taking away the right to
marry from an unpopular group, without a rational reason for doing so,
violates the equal protection guarantee of the Constitution.
“The immediate effect of [not taking review] would be to allow marriage in
California,” said Stewart, adding that, “once the Ninth Circuit issues its
mandate, [that] should happen quickly.”
Leaving the Ninth Circuit decision as precedent would apply only to the
Ninth Circuit states — California, Arizona, Nevada, Oregon, Idaho,
Washington, Montana, Alaska, and Hawaii.
“The effect on other states would not be immediate,” said Stewart, “but
the reasoning of the Ninth Circuit might be used in other cases. The
circumstances in California are somewhat unique, so whether another court or
even another panel of the Ninth Circuit would apply all or some of the
reasoning of the Perry panel to a different case probably depends on how
similar or different the case is and who is on the panel deciding the case.”
Having Perry preserved in the Ninth Circuit may have some “persuasive
effect” should Washington State voters reject a new marriage equality law
there in November, prompting litigation, said Stewart, “especially because
the situation would be closer to California’s than most.”
The Supreme Court announcements usually fall into one of two categories –“
Cert granted” and “Cert denied.”
“Cert” is shorthand for “Petition for Writ of Certiorari,” a request
that usually comes from a party who has lost litigation in a federal appeals
court, asking the high court to review the lower court decision and change
it. If the court “grants cert,” then at least four justices have voted to
review the lower court decision and the case will be heard by the full bench.
If the court “denies cert,” then the Supreme Court will not hear the case
and the lower appeals court decision stands as precedent for the states in
that Circuit. While these are the most frequent options, the high court can
take other actions as well.
Stewart said that, if the Supreme Court decides not to review the Prop 8
decision, the Ninth Circuit would then issue its mandate requiring equal
treatment of same-sex couples. Stewart said that typically takes about a
week.
“But here I think the court would get the mandate out very quickly, within
a day,” said Stewart. “I am told that the state department of public
health is all over this, i.e., ready to act promptly once the mandate issues
.”
【在 t*******e 的大作中提到】
:
: hearing list
: http://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/hearinglists/Hearing
: October2012.pdf
: 沒有prop 8 的案子。
: http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2012/10/u-s-supreme-court-delays-dec
: proposition-8-appeal/
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m******1
发帖数: 19713 | |
s*****n
发帖数: 325 | |
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k*****e
发帖数: 22013 | 21 好不容易等了一周，还要等一周。耐心...耐心...
【在 s*****n 的大作中提到】
: 耐心等到下周一 呼呼
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i*****y
发帖数: 3449 | 22 这种案子得哥情失嫂意，一旦获得受理，驳回或者不驳回都会对别的州造成影响，以美
国立法的基础，十有八九是让各州自行处理，最高法院不想趟这趟浑水。看来加州同性
婚姻是要过了。
吧。
【在 k*****e 的大作中提到】
: 如果受理，今天早上就应该发出来。结果prop8不在今天早上的list里面。
: 如果不受理，下周一就会发出来。Prop 8应该在下周一的list里，等下周一最终确认吧。
: 据分析，现在有好几个挑战DOMA的案子。
: 最高法院应该是准备受理DOMA的案子，毕竟DOMA才是管着全国的。
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L*******e
发帖数: 2202 | 23 我觉得现阶段最好（和现实）的结果是各州决定是否同婚，但是同婚受到联邦承认（即
推翻DOMA s3).
你看奥巴马早就evolve了，今年的选战同婚根本听不到声音，难道高法是准备推到选举
之后？ |
