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d**e
发帖数: 1124
1
2019年12月27日到2020年1月5日,5个机关和组织检测到了类似SARS的肺炎病毒病人
8位医护人员爆料,但是遭到警方的打压
2019年12月31日,中国卫生部门派第一组专家到武汉。并且通知WHO。 现在大家知道,
在2019年底,武汉当时有104位确诊的病人。对于任何正常的政府来说,有这么多类似
SARS的病人,都会立即发布卫生紧急通知。
但是,中国政府不但没有立即发布卫生紧急通知,相反的,2020年1月1日,湖北政府突
然命令把正在基因排序的第一个样品销毁,并且所有其他已经取得的样品都销毁。 2天
后,1月3日,卫生部也发布了类似的命令。
1月5日,卫生部的领导告诉一些记者,他们已经知道病毒会人传人,并且下发信息到一
线医护加强隔离。
1月6日,卫生部终于在各种压力下发布了2级紧急通知。
原文(the hill是左派的媒体,不是trump的媒体 LOL):
https://thehill.com/opinion/international/490258-what-did-chinas-xi-jinping-
know-and-when-did-he-know-it
As the global public health crisis continues, it is useful to reflect that
its cause is the actions and policies of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP).
Their conduct has been reprehensible. They have suppressed whistleblowers
and information, destroyed lab samples and prevented the Centers for Disease
Control and Prevention (CDC) and World Health Organization (WHO) from
gaining access when it might have blunted a global outbreak.
Let’s examine the timeline of the origins of the novel coronavirus (COVID-
19). Last December, China knew the virus was transmitted human to human.
Between Dec. 27, 2019, and Jan. 5, 2020, five firms and institutions
detected a SARS-like coronavirus that caused pneumonia among people in Wuhan
. The researcher who first sequenced the virus exclaimed that it could be
more prevalent than the plague. One tester mistakenly reported that the
virus was SARS. As a result, the Wuhan Health Commission issued an internal
urgent notice about the virus and reported it to China’s central government
, while telling the public that no clear evidence existed for person-to-
person transmission.
This caused at least eight medical professionals to sound the alarm to the
public. Chinese police censured these “rumor-mongers” and silenced any
other whistleblowers. On Dec. 31, China’s National Health Commission
dispatched the first group of experts to Wuhan and the WHO learned of the
outbreak. We now know that by the end of 2019, there were at least 104 cases
in Wuhan. With so many cases, most governments would institute an emergency
response.
Instead, on Jan. 1, Hubei province health authorities oddly ordered the
company that first sequenced the virus to stop testing, destroy all samples
and keep information secret. Two days later, central health authorities
issued a similar official order to testing facilities across the country.
However, on Jan. 5, Shanghai Public Health Center also detected a SARS-like
coronavirus from the Wuhan samples and reported to Shanghai and central
health authorities, urging the government to take immediate action to
control its spread.
The center’s CCP chief told reporters that they knew then the virus could
spread through human contact and began telling doctors to take precautions.
This is the reason that China’s health authorities finally launched a
second-level emergency response on Jan. 6. Later, the center’s lab provided
the international community with the virus’s genetic sequence for the
first time, and as a result was forced to close by Chinese authorities.
By this time — but almost certainly well before — Chinese President Xi
Jinping must have known what was transpiring. On Jan. 7, he hosted a CCP
leadership meeting and likely was briefed by health officials about the
Wuhan outbreak. We do not know exactly what was said in that meeting, of
course, but from subsequent conduct and leaked information, we know that
China began to take measures to stop the outbreak’s progression while still
concealing it from the public. Xi ordered that officials must not spoil the
atmosphere of the Spring Festival, the Chinese New Year, during which about
3 billion national trips take place. This is perhaps the primary reason
that Chinese authorities and media deliberately misled the public about
contagion.
During a critical window of time between Jan. 6 and Jan. 19, Wuhan reported
no new cases as the city and Hubei province proceeded to open their “two
sessions” — the annual plenary meetings and the Chinese people’s
political consultative conferences, with over 2,300 delegates in attendance.
The Wuhan government insisted on proceeding with a lunar year banquet on
Jan. 18, where 40,000 families gathered to share home-cooked food. Other
official new year celebration events didn’t end until the city closed down
on Jan. 23.
Based on statistics in the New England Journal of Medicine, we estimate
there were about 300 cases of COVID-19 confirmed during this time. The
official number of 41 as of Jan. 19 is certainly false. Media reports have
revealed that government health officials discouraged Wuhan doctors from
reporting new cases at the time, although tellingly, internal measures were
taken to check passengers at airports and rail stations.
Chinese health authorities insisted that the virus did not spread from human
to human until Zhong Nanshan with the National Health Commission announced
human-to-human transmission on Jan. 20. Yet even Dr. Zhong played down the
dangers and ensured that China would not have a repeat of the 2003 SARS
outbreak. Wuhan’s mayor later explained in an interview that without
authorization he could not release information. He implied that only after
Xi decided on Jan. 20 to go public could Wuhan order its lockdown on Jan. 23
.
By then it was too late. Five million people had left the city, starting the
global spread of the virus.
Even as other countries reported COVID-19 cases, China and the WHO continued
to mislead the world by minimizing the threat. The WHO required that the
virus be called COVID-19, rather than a term that would associate it with
China, and refused access to international experts including the CDC. Xi
called many state leaders, including President Trump, to advance a benign
narrative of what was a dire situation.
As a consequence, the world was duped into lowering its guard. Xi portrayed
himself as a competent ruler who had matters under control. According to the
CCP narrative, his personal direction of the anti-pandemic campaign rescued
China from catastrophe and heroically bought time for the rest of the world
to fight the pandemic.
People have questioned China’s mismanagement of this crisis. China launched
a global propaganda campaign to blame the United States and Italy for
bringing the virus into Wuhan. Using social media platforms, China spreads
false information that contributes to considerable anxiety among Chinese
Americans. China has used medical supplies it manufactures — masks,
ventilators and other equipment needed to treat COVID-19 patients — as
leverage to censor critics. Geng Shuang, spokesperson of China’s Foreign
Affairs Ministry, publicly declared to the world that those who are
unfriendly to China cannot get the masks it produces. Those who received
China’s supplies, such as Spain, Czechia and the Netherlands, found that
testing kits were 70 to 80 percent inaccurate and many masks were defective.
What we now know about the outbreak in China largely is because of the work
of Chinese journalists and netizens who refused to be silenced. Over 41
investigative reports by journalists have been deleted and banned. Citizen
journalists such as Chen Qiushi, Fan Bin and Li Zehua are still in police
detention. The world will not know the full truth until they are released
and free to explain how the CCP allowed the pandemic to happen.
K*****2
发帖数: 9308
2
这是土鳖的错,但这和米国几个月不做任何准备没有任何关系
打个比方,你不能说二战开局法国迅速灭亡的罪魁祸首是波兰抵抗不力
d**e
发帖数: 1124
3
WHO为TG打掩护,1月14日还在忽悠其它国家:
s*********2
发帖数: 1572
4
这篇媒体的信息来源是哪?全部马后炮,而且中国下令销毁病毒样本,请举证。别扯社
么左右媒体,你们爱吹公正,就把证据拿出来。
C***S
发帖数: 1159
5
这基本是扯蛋吧。什么十二月底就104个病人,那时候连病因还没确定。
我帝这电子烟肺炎发作了三个月,才开始调查,如果当时是传染病,我帝已经灭国了吧?
l*******g
发帖数: 27064
6
举证啥啊
国卫办科教函[2020]3号查一查
网上已经找不到了
但是呢,呵呵,有些地方网站上还有些内容可以看到,
里面明确说明的让销毁样本,禁止发布上传(哦,得得到审核允许,但是这就是个空话
,实际就是禁止,没人能得到许可通过的)
(五)根据《国家卫生健康委办公厅在重大突发传染病防控工作中加强生物样本资源及
相关科研活动管理工作的通知》(国卫办科教函[2020]3号),加强生物样本资源的科
研活动管理。
……
二是在本通知发布前,已经从有关医疗卫生机构、疾控机构及第三方检测机构取得相关
病例生物样本的机构和个人,应当立即将样本就地销毁或送交至本辖区市级疾病预防控
制中心保存或处理,并妥善保存有关实验活动记录及实验室结果信息。三是疫情防控工
作期间,各类承担病原学检测或科研任务的机构所产生的信息属于特殊公共资源,任何
机构和个人不得擅自对外发布有关病原检测或实验活动结果等信息;相关论文、成果发
表须经委托部门审核同意。
……

【在 s*********2 的大作中提到】
: 这篇媒体的信息来源是哪?全部马后炮,而且中国下令销毁病毒样本,请举证。别扯社
: 么左右媒体,你们爱吹公正,就把证据拿出来。

d**e
发帖数: 1124
7
thehill是纽约时报的spin off
叔很高兴看到小将叫nyt/thehill假新闻
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hill_(newspaper)

【在 s*********2 的大作中提到】
: 这篇媒体的信息来源是哪?全部马后炮,而且中国下令销毁病毒样本,请举证。别扯社
: 么左右媒体,你们爱吹公正,就把证据拿出来。

C***S
发帖数: 1159
8
这是opinion,本来就不是新闻。你傻呀?


: thehill是纽约时报的spin off

: 叔很高兴看到小将叫nyt/thehill假新闻

: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hill_(newspaper)



【在 d**e 的大作中提到】
: thehill是纽约时报的spin off
: 叔很高兴看到小将叫nyt/thehill假新闻
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hill_(newspaper)

d**e
发帖数: 1124
9
who cares
NYT放在头版的op ed还少吗?左煤早就不分news和op ed
再说op ed也是有证据的,写op ed就能乱编吗? 你的意思是,反川斗士们写了几百篇
NYT的op ed,从russian collusion到ukraine call, 都是乱编的? 我没见左派跳出来
说,不是新闻啊
你这么着急啥啊

【在 C***S 的大作中提到】
: 这是opinion,本来就不是新闻。你傻呀?
:
:
: thehill是纽约时报的spin off
:
: 叔很高兴看到小将叫nyt/thehill假新闻
:
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hill_(newspaper)
:

s*********2
发帖数: 1572
10
奇怪了,新闻当证据,我让你把新闻的消息出处拿来,你就来个撒泼?纽约时报前几天
还被土鳖抨击双标呢,怎么老将就没出来呢。

【在 d**e 的大作中提到】
: thehill是纽约时报的spin off
: 叔很高兴看到小将叫nyt/thehill假新闻
: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hill_(newspaper)

s*********2
发帖数: 1572
11
信息来源不定,大嘴一张就是可查。可笑土鳖的内部文件,怎么那么容易就网上查到了?

【在 l*******g 的大作中提到】
: 举证啥啊
: 国卫办科教函[2020]3号查一查
: 网上已经找不到了
: 但是呢,呵呵,有些地方网站上还有些内容可以看到,
: 里面明确说明的让销毁样本,禁止发布上传(哦,得得到审核允许,但是这就是个空话
: ,实际就是禁止,没人能得到许可通过的)
: (五)根据《国家卫生健康委办公厅在重大突发传染病防控工作中加强生物样本资源及
: 相关科研活动管理工作的通知》(国卫办科教函[2020]3号),加强生物样本资源的科
: 研活动管理。
: ……

d**e
发帖数: 1124
12
谁写的谁出证据啊
又不是我写的,我只是链接
你可以叫它fake啊,我没意见
我早就说NYT是fake

【在 s*********2 的大作中提到】
: 奇怪了,新闻当证据,我让你把新闻的消息出处拿来,你就来个撒泼?纽约时报前几天
: 还被土鳖抨击双标呢,怎么老将就没出来呢。

s******g
发帖数: 536
13
你给链接,别人可以批驳,你拿不出证据支持那就只能接受被驳倒的事实。

【在 d**e 的大作中提到】
: 谁写的谁出证据啊
: 又不是我写的,我只是链接
: 你可以叫它fake啊,我没意见
: 我早就说NYT是fake

d**e
发帖数: 1124
14
那你就不要扭扭捏捏的的了,直接叫NYT是fake news就好了
我双手赞成
最恶心的就是左派小将,选择性判断,凡是对自己有利的就是真news, 凡是不利的就是
fake
我一直认为NYT是fake

【在 s******g 的大作中提到】
: 你给链接,别人可以批驳,你拿不出证据支持那就只能接受被驳倒的事实。
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