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发帖数: 11132 | 1 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: Mayans (玛雅), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: Re: 天涯爆大料了！！！
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 23 23:41:56 2013, 美东)
http://ishare.iask.sina.com.cn/download/explain.php?fileid=2279 | w*********r
发帖数: 2192 | 2 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:33:14 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Fwd: 请教两件事 from Tong yufeng
To: "Jin Ya" , "Fei Gao" , "
Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
Ya,
I don't think you need to reply to him.
Wang Qi,
Pls in the future also don't reply to him anything,
not to mail, not to call, not to release any
information.
I VERY MUCH believe he will / is collecting these
information for both Zhu's family, and also for future
"evidence" if one day we have to face court.
BE VERY CAREFUL of our words, he will use it against
us -- I'm very sure.
AGAIN, DOON'T give him ANY INFORMATION.
Internally, we need to prepare something formal, like
formal clarification of the case, but it has nothing
to do with him.
Wei | w*********r
发帖数: 2192 | 3 I am not sure if the above letter can be admitted as circumstantial evidence
.希望案件重审。 | g***j
发帖数: 40861 | | T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | 5
早年中文软件在国外工作电脑上装不方便
【在 g***j 的大作中提到】
: 为啥中国人写信用英文
| d****o
发帖数: 32610 | 6 给总结个重点吧
跳着看，感觉没什么料
有的没看出什么，有的觉得是清白的啊 | n****d
发帖数: 2241 | 7 I VERY MUCH believe he will / is collecting these
information for both Zhu's family, and also for future
"evidence" if one day we have to face court.
对法庭如此介怀小心，生怕一点信息就会成为证供，这完全是犯罪嫌疑人的心理。
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【在 w*********r 的大作中提到】
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: Subject: Re: Fwd: 请教两件事 from Tong yufeng
: To: "Jin Ya" , "Fei Gao" , "
: Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
: Ya,
: I don't think you need to reply to him.
: Wang Qi,
| G*****h
发帖数: 33134 | 8 而且是首犯
【在 n****d 的大作中提到】
: I VERY MUCH believe he will / is collecting these
: information for both Zhu's family, and also for future
: "evidence" if one day we have to face court.
: 对法庭如此介怀小心，生怕一点信息就会成为证供，这完全是犯罪嫌疑人的心理。
:
: Alert
| T*****u
发帖数: 7103 | 9 姜波表示情绪稳定
【在 n****d 的大作中提到】
: I VERY MUCH believe he will / is collecting these
: information for both Zhu's family, and also for future
: "evidence" if one day we have to face court.
: 对法庭如此介怀小心，生怕一点信息就会成为证供，这完全是犯罪嫌疑人的心理。
:
: Alert
| w*********r
发帖数: 2192 | 10 她的邮件涉嫌串供。
案还没有破，
全班就几个女生，
孙维， 金亚， 高菲， 李hanlin， 王琪
5个人里面存在凶手的概率非常大。孙维的邮件要大家共进退，是在串供。
这5个人里面一定有凶手， 有知情人， 甚至有从犯，但是也可能有打酱油
给孙维顺手人情的。 | | | d****o
发帖数: 32610 | 11 酱油为什么要共进退？难道怕被黑？说不通啊
那个童什么已经声明不跟他们一条战壕了不也没怎么样么
【在 w*********r 的大作中提到】
: 她的邮件涉嫌串供。
: 案还没有破，
: 全班就几个女生，
: 孙维， 金亚， 高菲， 李hanlin， 王琪
: 5个人里面存在凶手的概率非常大。孙维的邮件要大家共进退，是在串供。
: 这5个人里面一定有凶手， 有知情人， 甚至有从犯，但是也可能有打酱油
: 给孙维顺手人情的。
| n****d
发帖数: 2241 | 12 记得看过他们的通信，孙铊对室友的语气居然是“we need to ....”，完全是命令的
口吻，让人没法相信她们不是同案犯。
【在 w*********r 的大作中提到】
: 她的邮件涉嫌串供。
: 案还没有破，
: 全班就几个女生，
: 孙维， 金亚， 高菲， 李hanlin， 王琪
: 5个人里面存在凶手的概率非常大。孙维的邮件要大家共进退，是在串供。
: 这5个人里面一定有凶手， 有知情人， 甚至有从犯，但是也可能有打酱油
: 给孙维顺手人情的。
| w*********r
发帖数: 2192 | 13 是孙维要大家共进退。
孙维说5个人要一个COMMONG的陈述。
这不是串供是什么呢？
【在 d****o 的大作中提到】
: 酱油为什么要共进退？难道怕被黑？说不通啊
: 那个童什么已经声明不跟他们一条战壕了不也没怎么样么
| d****o
发帖数: 32610 | 14 但是如果是酱油的话可以直接不参加嘛
要是我，参加这样的共同陈述只有两种情况：
1。100%确定所有人都无辜
2。 自己确实有问题
如果所有人都是这样的逻辑，那么
1。所有人都无辜
2。所有人都有问题
这样的话不会出现既有罪犯也有酱油的情况
当然，也有可能其中有人脑子不清楚，或者罪犯手中有其他把柄
【在 w*********r 的大作中提到】
: 是孙维要大家共进退。
: 孙维说5个人要一个COMMONG的陈述。
: 这不是串供是什么呢？
| c*9
发帖数: 3241 | 15 全部仔细读完了天涯爆料的所有2006书信， 上来补充, 修正一下：
1。 这些书信我认为是真实的， 但欢迎高手来进一步甄别。 这一点非常重要， 因
为我的以下判断全部是建立在这个假定上。
三段书信我全贴在以下LINK， 因为所覆盖内容极广 (如住址电话， 旅行时间。。。)
， 所以应该不难辩其真伪。
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t1/Military/39554563_0_1.html
2。 排除集体作案； 排除金亚， 王琪， 以及李含琳作案的可能性。
3。 金亚， 王琪 和孙维 关系很好； 但朱令客观上脱离宿舍集体。
4。 孙维 在06年一月急于(或是被要求)向警方证明朱令只是一次性中毒 (可能与办出
国手续有关--本人猜想)！ 为此， 向好友们紧急求助可能的支持材料。 (难道她仅涉
及到第二次投
毒？？？) 其中的奥秘我还没搞明白。
5。 网上有很多声明，回忆的帖子是伪造的， 但孙维也确实发过声明。 (也出现过“
漏洞”， 但有些可能是“技术问题”造成的 -- 我们应从善良的愿望出发。)
说心里话， 我本人是坚定的孙黑。 但这些信件(如果是真实的)改变了我的一些看
法。理性地看， (1)这些信件中没有能“坐实”我想要的证据。 比如很多孙黑包括
本人一直这样反证： 如果孙是无辜的， 为什么她不采取行动比如要求重审此案。。。
？ 从信中看， 孙也有过甚至做过一些“反抗”， 但她抵不了我们这些“mean”的万
众 (参见5)。。。所
以， 这种推理应该不能作为有罪的支持。(2) 也不能完全排除孙， 鉴于以上3和4以及
孙单独在
现场的可能性。但，这些信件还是帮助我们理清了一些问题 (如， 非集体作案)。
有一点是值得指出的是： 孙维 (至少从她向闺蜜的表白中)，朱令家和我们局外人士
都非常渴望重查此案。 看来， 水很深。。。
当然，如果有那位大侠能合理地推翻这些信件的真实性， 以上分析就没有任何意义
了。再次聲明﹕ 本人標準孫黑﹗ 但屏持公正﹐思考的態度 拋磚引玉。。。歡迎拍磚
﹐ 但謝絕謾罵和人肉。
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>>刚下载了文件包， 大致流览了一下， 有以下感觉：
>>1。 这些东西不象是网友伪造的 (编不出来)， 文件的属性时间也符合；
>>2。 "一个校友的感受"，"一个男友的回忆"。。。等等这些“亲友团”留言确实出自这
>>3。 这几个人的智商并不象我想象得那么高， 邮件中匿藏着一种慌乱，手足无措的气
氛；
>>4。 这几个人已经是拴在一条线上的，经常串通； 不管是处于什么原因；也许是害
怕.
..
>>5。 网友象现在这样在网上“瞎吒唬”，其实对他们打击很大； 尤其怕致信他们的老
板；孙更怕有朝一日面对中国的法庭；(但通信中我还没发现有关作案的明言 (正在学
习。。。))
>>6。 买提也是他们的一块阵地 (虽然控制不了)， 不可等闲。 | G*****h
发帖数: 33134 | 16 这个要一封一封到天涯上贴出来
隔一阵贴一遍
让铊们天天提心吊胆
【在 c*9 的大作中提到】
: 全部仔细读完了天涯爆料的所有2006书信， 上来补充, 修正一下：
: 1。 这些书信我认为是真实的， 但欢迎高手来进一步甄别。 这一点非常重要， 因
: 为我的以下判断全部是建立在这个假定上。
: 三段书信我全贴在以下LINK， 因为所覆盖内容极广 (如住址电话， 旅行时间。。。)
: ， 所以应该不难辩其真伪。
: http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t1/Military/39554563_0_1.html
: 2。 排除集体作案； 排除金亚， 王琪， 以及李含琳作案的可能性。
: 3。 金亚， 王琪 和孙维 关系很好； 但朱令客观上脱离宿舍集体。
: 4。 孙维 在06年一月急于(或是被要求)向警方证明朱令只是一次性中毒 (可能与办出
: 国手续有关--本人猜想)！ 为此， 向好友们紧急求助可能的支持材料。 (难道她仅涉
| c*9
发帖数: 3241 | 17 贴这里也行， 她们经常来(最少在2006)， 但说一个什么东西打不开了。。。呵呵。。 | j*****p
发帖数: 24000 | 18 孙自己在天涯回帖如下：
铊姐表示在美国的某个乡村，无忧无虑。继续肉，加油肉。
案件重审才是找出事实真相的唯一出路，懂？
铊姐我就承认是投毒者，你吹我啊？？？
俺就仅有的学过的犯罪心理学皮毛知识分析
就是她了 | c*9
发帖数: 3241 | 19 注意时间， 自下而上。。。
From: "Feiyu Xie" Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
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'Jin Ya'" , "'Qi Wang'" , rita.gao@
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Subject: FW: letter against Hanlin in Wenxuecity
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:47:26 +0800
A friend of mine forwarded this to me. Hanlin, I think you should act
immediately and let both your boss and Gang’s boss know about it, explain
the facts in the letter are wrong, and I think other girls should help write
letters too to support you, it is always better to prepare for the worst.
Take care,
--Feiyu
There's a madman on wenxuecity who's sent the following stupid letter to
Pfizer against Xue Gang and Li Hanlin. I guess it's not the first time.
To whom it may concern:
I find it urgent to bring to your attention of the involvement of two Pfizer
's scientists in a renewed debate over a mysterious poisoning case occurred
in 1995 at TsingHua University, one of the top universities in China. This
case is even covered by the newspaper China Daily, an official English
language newspaper in China recently.
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2006-01/13/content_512
Dr. Gang Xue and Dr. Hanlin Li, also participated this debate and defended
in public the sole suspect identified by polices. The victim, suspect and
the two scientists were college classmates. Especially, Dr. Hanlin Li was
the roommate of the victim. The investigation was reportedly halted due to
the very strong political background of this suspect or one of the suspects.
This case is not closed or resolved as of today. But police has no doubt on
the criminal is the victimas roommate or roommates. However, the
aforementioned two scientists vowed to defend the innocence of this suspect.
The disturbing fact is Dr. Hanlin Li was also a roommate of the victim and
suspect, her argument of the innocence of the suspect raises a legitimate
doubt on her role in this case. Moreover, Dr. Gang Xue, The class leader had
become a Communist Party Member since high school, also the husband of Dr.
Hanlin Li, played a very negative role in the arguably first ever internet
initiated worldwide rescue of the victim (please refer to the more details
on internet discussion, further references will be provided upon request).
Iam a person with the same age as the victim. When I wrote this mail to
you, I feel happy for myself because I have hope and promising future. When
I watch my husband, I know Iam happy because I have a husband who deeply
loves me When I hold my sonas small hands and watch his sweety face, I
feel happy. When I see my sonas grandparents hold him and let him call
them grandma and grandpa, I feel happy. But the victim, Zhuling, what she
has??? What her parents have?? Canat we do something to help her and her
parents?
As a consumer of Pfizer product, we are deeply concerned about this issue.
We are confident on the integrity of Pfizer's and the Pfizeras scientists
your company you would like to hire. It might be a right move to scrutinize
the background of these two scientists. Given the strong record of Pfizer's
compliance to word standard business ethics, we expect a quick and thorough
investigation from Pfizer.
Chinese traditional Spring Festival is coming. I would like to express best
wishes to you, also to Zhuling and her parents.
I also attached some info about this tragedy and help Zhuling foundation
website: http://www.helpzhuling.org/
Thank you very much.
A Chinese who still has a heart
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:24:27 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: my modification
To: "Hanlin Li" , "Fei Gao"
CC: "Feiyu Xie" , "Jin Ya" , "Qi
Wang" , "sun wei"
Hanlin
here are some my modification. You can combine with
xxx's.
BTW, I VERY MUCH agree with xxx, PLS, immediately
discuss with your boss, and gang's.
TAKE CARE!
Chu1 li2 fen4 nu4 de, wei
Hanlin_Statement_wei_version.doc (28k) [Preview]
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近日来，网上由朱令中毒事件引起的讨论已经开始演变成人身攻击，有些网上的评论已
经完全不顾事实，而是恶意的地造谣惑众。我觉得有必要向大众澄清有关事实， 以免
不知情的人被流言蒙蔽。
1. 首先我要严正声明， 网上的注册ID “李含琳”是冒充的， 是假的。 我很震惊
，有人竟然冒充我，以我的名义在网上造谣，误导大众。 不仅如此，另外，据我所知
，网上所谓的 “王琪”， “物化2支书”， “孙维的前男友”等也都是假的。他们所
发表的言论也完全是无中生有，恶意捏造的。 我不能理解这些人冒充我和我班同学的
居心何在，在网上滋意造谣生事，唯恐天下不乱。（对孙维的前男友，还可以由薛钢证
明为假，因为他说“薛钢和陈忠周知道我要来这里”，或者找到九弟反驳他的言论作为
佐证。）
2. 另外，现在我和我的一些同学的正常工作和生活已经受到严重骚扰甚至威胁。
我相信这里面大部分人的出发点是好的是无辜的，他们只是轻信了网上的流言，被误导
，而想要找我们出来说出 “真相”。 但是很明显然，既然 “李含琳”这个ID是冒充
的，他/她说的话也没有任何的可信度全部是捏造的。其实我已经在最早的一些贴子里
讲述了我所知道的事实，根本就没有什么迫于压力隐瞒的所谓 “真相”。 对于这些人
我给予理解，我相信你们不是恶意，是希望能得到更多线索，帮助破案。但是也有一些
人，已经远远超出了关心事件的范围，对我和我的同学进行恶意骚扰，还有的人在网上
随意公布别人的隐私，更有甚者，在毫无根据的情况下，竟然发匿名信到我的同学的原
工作单位，污蔑她是谋杀嫌疑人。你们的所作所为已经违反了道德和法律，我们会在必
要时予以法律追究。
我发这个帖子作这个声明（声明有点像马甲）的主要目的是想让更多的人认识到网络的
不真实性（有没有更好的说法？）。一些居心叵测的人，利用网络上没有明确的法律，
制度来制约他们，在网上随便注册一个ID，甚至去冒充别人的身份，发表一些极不负责
任甚至恶意中伤的言论，误导不知情的人，我不相信认为这种做法会对事情的解决有哪
怕一点点的帮助。另外，对这些肆意滋扰我们的人我还要说一句，你既然有胆量去骚扰
别人，还打着正义的旗号，那么就请你不要用写匿名信，用公用电话这样卑劣的手段。
不然，我对你们的这种小人做法所做所为感到极为不齿。
最后，我奉劝希望这些少数人，请你尊重别人，也尊重自己。
就在我准备要发着个声明的时候， 我又发现有人已经发匿名信到我的工作单位，开始
大范围的骚扰我的同事。 我对你们的做法已经出离愤怒了。我要求这个写信的和发信
的人，请你们勇敢点，以真实姓名站出来，既然你们号称是有良知的，就不要躲在暗处
以造谣中伤为乐，既然做的出，就要能承担后果。我愿意在法律面前与你对质。
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Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:33:14 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Fwd: 请教两件事 from Tong yufeng
To: "Jin Ya" , "Fei Gao" , "
Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
Ya,
I don't think you need to reply to him.
Wang Qi,
Pls in the future also don't reply to him anything,
not to mail, not to call, not to release any
information.
I VERY MUCH believe he will / is collecting these
information for both Zhu's family, and also for future
"evidence" if one day we have to face court.
BE VERY CAREFUL of our words, he will use it against
us -- I'm very sure.
AGAIN, DOON'T give him ANY INFORMATION.
Internally, we need to prepare something formal, like
formal clarification of the case, but it has nothing
to do with him.
Wei
--- Jin Ya wrote:
>
> Note: forwarded message attached.
>
> 1。王琪，他说的你打电话的内容是否属实？
> 2。大家说我是否要回？I just don't believe him.
>
>
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> http://mail.yahoo.com > Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006
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> From: Yufeng Tong
> To: j*******[email protected]
> Subject: 请教两件事
>
> 金亚，
>
> 我就不罗嗦了。
>
>
王琪看了《新民周刊》的报道后给我写信说，朱令父亲说的面包一事不对，说电话是朱
家打给你们宿舍的，但是她说她没有接到。那么这个电话是否是你接的?关于面包和壮
骨粉，王琪说她绝对不会去吃这些东西，那么你对于这件事情是什么回忆？难道是朱令
父亲说错了？
>
>
第二件事情就是邱志江告诉我你一直在查铊中毒的案例，不知道你有没有查到潜伏期4
个月的例子？邱问我有没有朱令的病例，我没有helpzhuling网站的密码，没法查，而
且病例有的话也应该是97年之后的，因为我听朱令父母告诉我朱令中毒期间的原始病例
均被封存，连他们自己也没有。我想公安那里可能有。朱令父母的消息基本上是从公安
那里来的。他们对孙维在97年之前都没有怀疑。
>
> 童
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 12:58:43 +0800 (CST)
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Subject: 回复： 我和孙维二三? 拢杏研闹械乃镂?转寄 )?=
To: "Feiyu Xie"
CC: "Jin Ya" , "Qi Wang" , "Hanlin
Li"
这一篇我之前看过。当时很愤怒，本想回贴的。后来看到了九弟在同学录上的留言，就
没继续关注了。真是疯狗一条！
附：九弟在同学录上的留言
我已经在天涯上把 所谓的"我和孙维二三事，我心中的孙维"作者骂了一遍.说了一下情
况.
现在网络上 很多人太坏了.
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:28:40 +0800 (CST)
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Subject: 回复： my latest draft
To: "Hanlin Li"
CC: "Feiyu Xie" , "Jin Ya" , "Qi
Wang" , "sun wei"
Dear Hanlin,
Just for your reference. Everything is up to you.
Take care.
Gao
Hanlin Li 写道：
Resend my latest draft of statement, for clarity.
Statement.doc (23k) [Preview]
Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 23:38:32 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: 回复： my latest draft
To: "belle gao" , "Hanlin Li"
CC: "Feiyu Xie" , "Jin Ya" , "Qi
Wang" , "sun wei"
I think Belle has made some good comments, I also have
same feeling about
"主要目的是想让更多的人认识到网络的*不真实性*" cos it
also sounds like our statement is not true as well :-P
I tried to modified this part, probablly not a good
solution but you can think about it :-)
Other comments all good.
However, I think it's also urgent for you to prepare a
draft (in your mind), how to discuss with your boss.
Let's brainstrom in another mail.
Wei
--- belle gao wrote:
> Dear Hanlin,
>
> Just for your reference. Everything is up to you.
>
> Take care.
>
> Gao
>
> Hanlin Li 写道：
> Resend my latest draft of statement, for clarity.
>
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 00:59:11 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: 回复： my latest draft
To: "belle gao" , "Fei Gao"
, "Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang" , "sun wei" <
s********[email protected]>, "Feiyu Xie"
Hanlin, wangqi and I talked for a while this morning
(before Hanlin went to bed). Main points are:
1. 准确IDs are: 王琪声明， 物化2团支书，孙维前男友，
need to be exact.
2. What Hanlin is worrying about is that this post may
make those guys feel sending black-emails or phone
calling is a good way to harass. So Hanlin was
planning to remove the last paragraph, i.e.
"就在我准备要发着个声明的时候，
我又发现有人已经发匿名信到我的工作单位，开始大范围的骚扰我的同事。
我对你们的做法已经出离愤怒了。我要求这个写信的和发信的人，请你们勇敢点，以真
实姓名站出来，既然你们号称是有良知的，就不要躲在暗处以造谣中伤为乐，既然做的
出，就要能承担后果。我愿意在法律面前与你对质。"
Hanlin wants to know comments of Belle and Sally on
the second point. Better inform her before this
evening (hanlin's morning).
--- belle gao wrote:
> Dear Hanlin,
>
> Just for your reference. Everything is up to you.
>
> Take care.
>
> Gao
Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 19:35:43 +0800 (CST)
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Subject: 回复： Re: 回复： my latest draft
To: "Jin Ya" , "Fei Gao" , "
Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang" , "sun wei" <
s********[email protected]>, "Feiyu Xie"
我觉得可以去掉最后一段中的“就在我准备要发着个声明的时候，
我又发现有人已经发匿名信到我的工作单位，开始大范围的骚扰我的同事。
”。以避免让那些人太得意自己的所作所为带来的结果。而“请你们勇敢点，以真实姓
名站出来，既然你们号称是有良知的，就不要躲在暗处以造谣中伤为乐，既然做的出，
就要能承担后果。"这一段中的内容可以重新整理后放在第二条里，因为原来那段中有
“更有甚者，在毫无根据的情况下，竟然发匿名信到我的同学的原工作单位，污蔑她是
谋杀嫌疑人。”的话，可以放在这里起加强作用。
Jin Ya 写道：
Hanlin, wangqi and I talked for a while this morning
(before Hanlin went to bed). Main points are:
1. 准确IDs are: 王琪声明， 物化2团支书，孙维前男友，
need to be exact.
2. What Hanlin is worrying about is that this post may
make those guys feel sending black-emails or phone
calling is a good way to harass. So Hanlin was
planning to remove the last paragraph, i.e.
"就在我准备要发着个声明的时候，
我又发现有人已经发匿名信到我的工作单位，开始大范围的骚扰我的同事。
我对你们的做法已经出离愤怒了。我要求这个写信的和发信的人，请你们勇敢点，以真
实姓名站出来，既然你们号称是有良知的，就不要躲在暗处以造谣中伤为乐，既然做的
出，就要能承担后果。我愿意在法律面前与你对质。"
Hanlin wants to know comments of Belle and Sally on
the second point. Better inform her before this
evening (hanlin's morning).
--- belle gao wrote:
> Dear Hanlin,
>
> Just for your reference. Everything is up to you.
>
> Take care. | c*9
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To: "'Jin Ya'" , "'Hanlin Li'" ,
r******[email protected], "'Qi Wang'"
Subject: RE: 我和孙维二三事，男友心中的孙维(转寄)
Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:44:42 +0800
Sorry I realized the email content maybe corrupted, here is a PDF
version...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Feiyu Xie [mailto:f*******[email protected]]
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 12:19 PM
> To: 'Jin Ya'; 'Hanlin Li'; 'r******[email protected]'; 'Qi Wang'
> Subject: FW: 我和孙维二三事，男友心中的孙维(转寄)
>
> Someone forwarded it to me. Could you girls think of ways to refute
it? I
> didn't want to let Wei know about this for now.
mitbbs.pdf (93k)
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
标 题: 我和孙维二三事，男友心中的孙维
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jan 16 14:08:17 2006), 转信
我是孙维的前男友，来自你们所熟知的物化92，至于我的真实性，大家也不必去猜疑了，
薛钢和陈忠周知道我要来这里，当然，不管他是什么态度，我决定把我心中的镂 嫠吣忝
恰?br>
其实那么多年，朱令或多或少是压抑在我心头的大石头，到了今天终于可以放下来了
，因为今天闹成这样，唯一的受害者就是朱令，还有孙维目前的老公（抱歉我必须要这么
说，因为你早晚一定会知道你身边有条世界上最毒的蛇）
孙维和我的恋爱，过程很短暂，但是我们分手后，孙维对我本人的是非议论却是从未
断过，她骨子里是个占有欲支配欲很强的人，对于她所无法达到或者获取的东西，她往往
会采取极端的毁灭手段，事实上大学期间我基本都不太相信或者愿意去想她就是朱令案的
投毒元凶，至于她被14处审8小时这件事情，班上基本都没人知道，除了几位有限的学生
干部和我，她审讯归来之后铁青着脸和我一块去食堂吃饭，其中仅仅说过一句话‘我可算
是被朱令给毁了，得’，我当时知道她心中的压力巨大所以没有多说只是把她送回了宿舍
楼。
我们物化92很特殊，有人说我们的集体荣誉感高于一切，实际上，我们各自为政的时
候也颇多，简而言之就是有需要的时候我们是一股绳，不需要的时候我们都是沉默的陌生
人，这样的班级可想而知，毕业之后联系的也就是那么同寝室的几个人，还有几个以班干
部身份联络众人的稍微活跃一些。
孙维今天混到nokia中国区的某经理位置，我相信有其必然性的，她的个性不甘人下
，她当然非常骄傲，不单是她的家庭有过很出色的人物，也因为她一直认为她仅仅是时运
不济而已，很多时候她都在逃避现实，当初我也说过很多违心的赞扬她的话，我想她从来
不会认为是谎言。
关于她的为人，我必需要说的一句话就是：不得之必毁之！
这是我从和她分手之后得出的结论，由于一些原因，毕业之后我们分手了，她至今无
法接受我选择了更活泼开朗的如今的老婆，在此后的几年，只要有我出现的北京同学聚会
她必然缺席，同学和我聊天，往往都可以听到来自孙维的不利于我的不痛不痒的人品传言
，当然，我也是一笑置之，我太了解她了。
其实，时至今日，关于令人痛心的朱令案，我想网友们都有自己的判断，我不想影响
你们的看法，我只想说的是，19岁的我不会具备今日你们如此缜密的思维，如此错综复杂
的案情，就算是凶手本人也未预见到的，今天回过头凶手一定会庆幸。
就这样吧，我并不担心会出现什么特殊的情况，原因很简单，我现在国外，所以我可
以放心大胆地说。有什么事我会关注的 | | | v***0
发帖数: 5096 | 21 我随便看了几个感觉没啥问题？
哪位有分析一下？
还有这个email怎么泄露出来的？
【在 t****7 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
: 发信人: Mayans (玛雅), 信区: WaterWorld
: 标 题: Re: 天涯爆大料了！！！
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 23 23:41:56 2013, 美东)
: http://ishare.iask.sina.com.cn/download/explain.php?fileid=2279
| R*****o
发帖数: 11 | 22 who is "him"?
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【在 w*********r 的大作中提到】
: Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 20:33:14 -0800 (PST)
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: Subject: Re: Fwd: 请教两件事 from Tong yufeng
: To: "Jin Ya" , "Fei Gao" , "
: Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
: Ya,
: I don't think you need to reply to him.
: Wang Qi,
| w*********r
发帖数: 2192 | 23 童同学。
【在 R*****o 的大作中提到】
: who is "him"?
:
: Alert
| L***n
发帖数: 6727 | 24 看了之后，只有一个感觉，金亚，王棋完全无辜，不然
口气会不一样，其他人不知道，没一个一个细看，这贴
子露出来反而证明几个人的清白
【在 v***0 的大作中提到】
: 我随便看了几个感觉没啥问题？
: 哪位有分析一下？
: 还有这个email怎么泄露出来的？
| d**********x
发帖数: 4083 | 25 我不认为这个email是真实的。。。
但是如果是真实的，孙维的态度就说明一切了。。被冤枉的人不是这么说话的。 | w*********r
发帖数: 2192 | 26 案件重启，就可以申请司法鉴别是真还是假。
黑客做假也可以抓起来的。
【在 d**********x 的大作中提到】
: 我不认为这个email是真实的。。。
: 但是如果是真实的，孙维的态度就说明一切了。。被冤枉的人不是这么说话的。
| s*******l
发帖数: 8210 | | G*****h
发帖数: 33134 | 28 铊们班主任是谁?掩盖窝藏肯定有功, 脱不了干系啊 | s*******l
发帖数: 8210 | 29 够了，在谎言上继续编谎言，实在太无耻了。 看你们编的这Email， 还什么
'yes no', 太滑稽了，你们自己脸不红嘛？ ｌｏｌ
"
write
【在 c*9 的大作中提到】
: 注意时间， 自下而上。。。
: From: "Feiyu Xie" Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
: To: "'yes no'" , "'Hanlin Li'" , "
: 'Jin Ya'" , "'Qi Wang'" , rita.gao@
: sz.chn.tuv.com
: Subject: FW: letter against Hanlin in Wenxuecity
: Date: Tue, 24 Jan 2006 11:47:26 +0800
: A friend of mine forwarded this to me. Hanlin, I think you should act
: immediately and let both your boss and Gang’s boss know about it, explain
: the facts in the letter are wrong, and I think other girls should help write
| G*****h
发帖数: 33134 | 30
你就是孙维吧, 还 still well 呢
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 够了，在谎言上继续编谎言，实在太无耻了。 看你们编的这Email， 还什么
: 'yes no', 太滑稽了，你们自己脸不红嘛？ ｌｏｌ
:
: "
: write
| | | c*9
发帖数: 3241 | 31 From: "wq" View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Subject: Re: I am back and need your contact info
To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "sun wei"
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:35:20 +0800
so glad to hear from u from shanghai.
my cell: 13600072567
PF: 13570066776
contact u later, see u.
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:06:27 -0800 (PST)
Hanlin Li wrote:
> Dear piglets,
>
> I am back in China. It is a lot colder than I
> expected, fortunately, indoor temp. is very
> comfortable.
>
> I left from US in a hurry and didn't take your contact
> informaiton with me, could all of you please send me
> your phone numbers so I can reach you?
>
> I will start first:
>
> My home phone # at Anshan is : 0412-673-2565 and I
> also have a cell phone @ 136-1080-9319.
>
> Qizi,
>
> please send me P4's phone # as well, so Gang can bug
> him. :-)
>
> I am so looking forward to meeting all of you in
> Shanghai!
>
> Talk to you later.
>
> Hanlin
Subject: Re: I am back and need your contact info
To: "Hanlin Li"
CC: "Jin Ya" , "sun wei" , "Qi
Wang"
From: r******[email protected] View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:14:02 +0800
My mobil phone is 13530655861. I am afraid I can not go to shanghai for
reunion because these days our business is very busy. Sorry for this
bad
news.
Merry x-mas and happy new year to all of you in advance.
Hanlin Li
To
12/11/2005 10:06 r******[email protected], Jin Ya
AM , sun wei
, Qi Wang
cc
Subject
I am back and need your contact
info
Dear piglets,
I am back in China. It is a lot colder than I
expected, fortunately, indoor temp. is very
comfortable.
I left from US in a hurry and didn't take your contact
informaiton with me, could all of you please send me
your phone numbers so I can reach you?
I will start first:
My home phone # at Anshan is : 0412-673-2565 and I
also have a cell phone @ 136-1080-9319.
Qizi,
please send me P4's phone # as well, so Gang can bug
him. :-)
I am so looking forward to meeting all of you in
Shanghai!
Talk to you later.
Hanlin
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Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 16:05:50 +0800
Subject: 来自清华
李含琳：
你好!你好!
无论是清华环境系校友的身份还是《南方周末》记者的名义，我都有足够的情感和理性
在今天
继续关注朱令
“铊中毒”事件。这一事件十年前就引起轩然大波，十年后仍未定案，不仅朱
令同学本人深受其害，她的家人也一直处于孤独的痛苦当中，而且也给那些关心过朱令
帮助过
朱令的朋友们留下了诸多不解和疑团。
我努力去找过化学系的老师和物化2班的同学。但是我还不敢惊动大部分人。包括一些
退休的
老师.我了解的情况是:大家已经很尽力。而当时一些媒体的不当报道,却可能伤害了大
家的感
情。大家一方面同情朱令，一方面又想保护同学.作为清华的学生，我不相信我的同学
是冷漠
的，相反，我认为这里面，肯定存在着一些相互的误解和微妙的抵触.而这些究竟是什
么?什么
造成了这种不信任?是不是怕伤害到了无辜?我也看到了有些同学，为孙维辩护.我完全
理解:因
为我们不会傻到先定一个人有罪,再去寻找他的过失.这是无论如何一个有智商的人，都
不会这
么做的。因为要公正,我相信你们也是这么想的。
昨天我甚至见到了和朱令一起演出的艺术团的一个校园歌手.也许大家都知道他。他现
在已经
几乎很成名了，踌躇满志,要回清华开咖啡馆,在北院.当时我心里很难过，我听到一个
98级化
学系的孩子说，年年提这个事情，年年没有结果.我听了更是伤感。
我去拜访过朱令父母。他们还在不停信访.朱母曾经因去年摔倒而开了脑颅.她感到自己
老了，
家里也没有其他人了。没有人可以照顾朱令.她想的是,怎么办?如果她去了，她说,就让
朱令也
和我一起去吧.
我当时,真是无话可说了。
他们并没有努力申诉自己的冤屈,我感到的不是他们的委屈和仇恨，而是对生命的尊重.
是一种
意志力.活下去的意志.那时候,我甚至不敢问:你们恨不恨凶手.我不敢问。
而我做这个事情，只是希望。还能够从媒体角度,促使公安部门追查嫌疑人,让大家都有
一个清
白的说法.
我和一个关注这个事情的朋友聊天，她说:“旧事重提，肯定会伤害到一些人的感情。
可我认
为，面对承受了人生的残忍和不公的朱令，面对承受了这么大痛苦的朱家父母，作为健
康、自
由、相对幸福生活着的人，如果只是因为怕伤害到自己和周围人的感情或者影响自己和
周围人
的生活而永远选择沉默，使真相在时光中消逝，那么，未免太不公平。因为真相虽然是
痛苦可
能甚至会触目惊心，但真相还是很重要的。因为我一直坚持，社会的正义和良心比个人
平静温
暖的内心舒适似乎更为重要。”
我希望通过自己实实在在的努力为她做些什么。作为《南方周末》的一名职业记者，我
深知，
虽然媒体是本着维护正义，保护弱者的立场进行追踪和关注，但我们并不能干预办案或
是有罪
推论，我们能够做的和最终力图做到的，只是抛开外界纷杂不一的说法，如实记录朱令
的同学
、家人，也就是所有了解她关心她愿意帮帮她的朋友们真实的声音。
我承认，我是一个多事者,
虽然我也曾在清华园度过了九年光阴.实际上我根本不必要关心
社会新闻，我的志向不在这里。但是等我见到朱的父母时,我就知道我必须追问下去,即
便是没
有结果，即便是…因为没有做好而丢失了一个记者应有的职业口碑.我很希望自己能给
朱令的
父母一些实际的帮助，也希望你们不要有太多的顾虑,信任我支持我。谋事在人，成事
在天。
我相信苍天在上,我失败一次，以后还会有人追问的。但我依然相信你们，我的同学们,
我相信
天下人的心是善良的，我也相信,我能够公正地呈现这个当年的事实.
谢谢你们。
所以，我能做的事情，不是追查，没有公安的证据我是不会定罪的，我只想呈现一个事
实，大
家在一种悲愤和沉郁之下，我们能够做的微薄之力,就是,即便是不知情,也要说出不知
情,也要
说出:我们需要知情.
我有看到过很多你的发言.此事我一直在关注着.我们没有高调介入是因为我们还在不想
惊动太
多人。如果你愿意发言...我很愿意.保护你的一切:姓名,住址联络方法.这是一个基本
的职业
道德。请你信任我.
《南方周末》记者
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 19:11:15 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Will you have time in the next week?
To: r******[email protected], "Hanlin Li" , "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
Dear piglets
I'm pretty bad these days. As you probablly have (or
have not) heard about it, People are discussing about
the rumor (basically cursing me) on hundreds of
websites in China and the rumor is now wide spread all
over my friends & colleagues...
In such a case, it's very difficult for me to keep
silence anymore. So I'm considering clarifying about
it.
I'm now spending all my "leasure" time drafting the
"clarification".
I'd like to send for you to help review it before
publish, hopefully within a week.
Will you have time then?
Subject: Re: Will you have time in the next week?
To: "Yes No"
CC: "Hanlin Li" , "Jin Ya" , "Qi Wang"
From: r******[email protected] View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:44:17 +0800
Dear Wei,
I am really shocked by your e-mail because I haven't noticed it in
internet
at all. Really sorry for you. Of course I will leave time for you. If
you
would like to leave Beijing for a while, my home is always open for
you.
And if there is anything I can do for you, just tell me.
Wish you are strong enough and every bad thing is smooth as soon as
possible.
Take care, baby!
Gao
Yes No
.com>
To
r******[email protected], Hanlin
Li
12/19/2005 11:11 , Jin Ya
AM , Qi Wang
cc
Subject
Will you have time in the next
week?
Dear piglets
I'm pretty bad these days. As you probablly have (or
have not) heard about it, People are discussing about
the rumor (basically cursing me) on hundreds of
websites in China and the rumor is now wide spread all
over my friends & colleagues...
In such a case, it's very difficult for me to keep
silence anymore. So I'm considering clarifying about
it.
I'm now spending all my "leasure" time drafting the
"clarification".
I'd like to send for you to help review it before
publish, hopefully within a week.
Will you have time then?
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:52:03 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Will you have time in the next week?
To: r******[email protected], "Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
gffunds.com.cn>, "sun wei"
Yeah, I didn't notice either. People can be really
mean, disgusting and irresponsible when they can speak
anonymously. Niangzi, be strong and take care!
Surely I have time. As Belle said, if anything we can
help, don't hesitate, we support you at any
circumstances.
Jin
--- r******[email protected] wrote:
> Dear Wei,
>
> I am really shocked by your e-mail because I haven't
> noticed it in internet
> at all. Really sorry for you. Of course I will leave
> time for you. If you
> would like to leave Beijing for a while, my home is
> always open for you.
> And if there is anything I can do for you, just tell
> me.
>
> Wish you are strong enough and every bad thing is
> smooth as soon as
> possible.
>
> Take care, baby!
> Gao
>
>
>
>
> Yes No
>
>
>
> .com>
> To
>
> r******[email protected], Hanlin Li
> 12/19/2005 11:11
> , Jin Ya
> AM
> , Qi Wang
>
>
>
> cc
>
>
>
> Subject
> Will you have
> time in the next
> week?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear piglets
> I'm pretty bad these days. As you probablly have (or
> have not) heard about it, People are discussing
> about
> the rumor (basically cursing me) on hundreds of
> websites in China and the rumor is now wide spread
> all
> over my friends & colleagues...
>
> In such a case, it's very difficult for me to keep
> silence anymore. So I'm considering clarifying about
> it.
> I'm now spending all my "leasure" time drafting the
> "clarification".
> I'd like to send for you to help review it before
> publish, hopefully within a week.
>
> Will you have time then?
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 01:23:57 -0800 (PST)
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To: "Jin Ya" , r******[email protected], "Hanlin Li" <
h****[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
Thank you all piglets!!
Your mails makes me stronger and I will never be
knocked down! :)
Remember our old saying in dorm that we want to get
famous in public? -- Now I'm achieving it.
It's still not the worst case yet, but I'm prepared...
sooner or later...
Anyway, let's see...
--- Jin Ya wrote:
> Yeah, I didn't notice either. People can be really
> mean, disgusting and irresponsible when they can
> speak
> anonymously. Niangzi, be strong and take care!
>
> Surely I have time. As Belle said, if anything we
> can
> help, don't hesitate, we support you at any
> circumstances.
>
> Jin
>
> --- r******[email protected] wrote:
>
> > Dear Wei,
> >
> > I am really shocked by your e-mail because I
> haven't
> > noticed it in internet
> > at all. Really sorry for you. Of course I will
> leave
> > time for you. If you
> > would like to leave Beijing for a while, my home
> is
> > always open for you.
> > And if there is anything I can do for you, just
> tell
> > me.
> >
> > Wish you are strong enough and every bad thing is
> > smooth as soon as
> > possible.
> >
> > Take care, baby!
> > Gao
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
> > Yes No
>
> >
> >
>
> >
> > .com>
>
> > To
> >
> > r******[email protected], Hanlin Li
> > 12/19/2005 11:11
> > , Jin Ya
> > AM
> > , Qi Wang
> >
> >
> >
>
> > cc
> >
>
> >
> >
>
> > Subject
> > Will you
> have
> > time in the next
> > week?
>
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear piglets
> > I'm pretty bad these days. As you probablly have
> (or
> > have not) heard about it, People are discussing
> > about
> > the rumor (basically cursing me) on hundreds of
> > websites in China and the rumor is now wide spread
> > all
> > over my friends & colleagues...
> >
> > In such a case, it's very difficult for me to keep
> > silence anymore. So I'm considering clarifying
> about
> > it.
> > I'm now spending all my "leasure" time drafting
> the
> > "clarification".
> > I'd like to send for you to help review it before
> > publish, hopefully within a week.
> >
> > Will you have time then?
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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> protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
>
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:31:45 -0800 (PST)
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To: r******[email protected], "Hanlin Li" , "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
Dear all
Here is my draft doc. If you have time, pls help to
review it from an outsider point of view, to see if
there are some parts that is not proper
or could cause some misunderstanding etc.
Any comments welcome!
It would be great if you can give the feedback by
Friday night so that I can do the modification before
publish.
Many thanks!
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:25:43 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: So Moved!
To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
Dear everyone!
I'm soooooo moved by all of you! Of cause you all are
my BEST friends, lifetime friends (although I removed
the "best" friends statement in the doc that I'm
currently modifying, changed to "good" -- it might
bring negative effect if people want to make story out
of it)!
I can't express with words but I have to admit that
when I read the mail from all of you, I can't control
my tears, even now. What a strange creature human
being is -- when people are beating, hurting,
humiliating you, you are strong and never show sorrow,
but when you friends are comming with warm heart and
words, you, on the contrary, start to cry.
Anyway, no matter what happens, I always repeat to
myself, that I am not the poorest person in world and
I will never be knocked down. There are too many
examples that people sufferied much much more that I
do. So what I'm now experiencing is nothing. For
example, Zhu Ling's family is more poorer, and they
sufferred much much more. Of cause I don't like their
way of doing things but it's also understandable to
some extent.
I'm still making modifications based on some early
comment. If I can finish it by tonight, I will send
you to review again.
Anyway, let's see... Hope it doesn't cause you too
much trouble :(
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Niangzi,
>
> I just saw your email this morning and gave a first
> read of the document. It is a well written document,
> very objective, with lots of facts, which made the
> document credible. I believe anyone who is not
> biased
> would get the right message. I am going to read it
> again, being a devil's advocate this time, and get
> back to you tonight.
>
> As a close friend of yours (I assumed), I feel so
> ashamed when I read your clarification, I had no
> idea
> what you have been through. If I were in your shoes,
> I
> may be collapsed already. I am really proud of you,
> after going through all this, you are still a
> strong,
> optimistic, cheerful girl, still the old Sun Xiaozhu
> we know of. I hope you will only grow stronger and
> happier from now on, as we (your best friends, I am
> speaking for all of the piglets here) will always be
> on your side, support you and fight back with you.
>
> Last but not least, wish you best of luck. I do
> believe after the issuance of your document, the
> public should get a clearer and more truthful
> picture
> of the whole thing, and give you back the oridinary
> life you've been wishing for.
>
> If anything I could be help with, don't hesitate to
> ask.
>
> Hanlin
>
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> > passward is "thetruth"
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:14:53 +0800 (CST)
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com.cn
Dear niangzi,
refer to the attachment.
take care.
Gao
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:14:53 +0800 (CST)
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Dear niangzi,
refer to the attachment.
take care.
Gao
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Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:35:22 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: new version for review
To: "belle gao" , h****[email protected], jinyajane@yahoo.
com, [email protected]
Dear all
As said, I'm speechless, so have nothing to say.
Here is the new version after consolidating all your
precious comment, not 100% yet cos I don't have time
:(.
Anyway, if you have time tomorrow, pls have a look.
I properly need your support after I publish this one,
but I don't know exactly how. Let's talk about it a
bit later.
Merry Xmas!
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To: "Yes No" , h****[email protected], j*******[email protected],
[email protected]
Dear Niangzi,
I have looked through the new version. This edition is more clear in stating
reality.
For content, I have no further advices. As I said, even the content is
perfect, maybe there are still some captious persons.
I think we will face more fireworks in internet, you must be strong and
ready to face them. Once you publish it, tell us the link and also as more
as possilbe friends. We also want to support you in situ in internet.
Merry x-mas to you and xxx!
Gao
Yes No 写道：
Dear all
As said, I'm speechless, so have nothing to say.
Here is the new version after consolidating all your
precious comment, not 100% yet cos I don't have time
:(.
Anyway, if you have time tomorrow, pls have a look.
I properly need your support after I publish this one,
but I don't know exactly how. Let's talk about it a
bit later.
Merry Xmas!
__________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 23:40:32 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: to open the 2nd version :(
To: "Yes No" , "Fei Gao" , "
Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
娘子，
我看过第二版了，再提出几点意见，还是权作参考。
1。“...朱令也是校社团的积极分子。社团和团委的骨干成员有单独的宿舍楼，不分院
系、年级，既没有熄灯和用电限制也不锁楼门，是大家聚会、活动的中心。朱令经常回
宿舍很晚。她第一次中毒后返校期间仍然每天中午去社团或团委煎药，据她自己说也有
时是别人提前帮她煎好了的。”这一段如果写得再圆滑一点就好了，象加个“举个例子
来说”，“比如说”这样的词句。如果我是不知情的人，很可能会觉得你在暗示这个情
况和中毒有密切关系，如果不是你的本意的话，可能会有一些反面作用。看你的考虑。
2。你爷爷那一段，我觉得挺好的。不过能不能稍微表达一下你爷爷出身贫寒，自己奋
斗成材的意思，反正就是别让人觉得你们家是那种大的“世家”，有很多人罩着的那种。
3。“前不久的ｘｘｘ杀妻案为什么会被判刑？就是因为“死者”家属有怀疑，而且又
找到了一具女尸，看似证据确凿，而ｘｘｘ又拿不出证据证明自己无罪。其实这也是许
多未破案件时一些被怀疑人遇到的共同问题。”看到这一段我是想到了你说的应该是"
Simpson"的案子，但我的印象不深，google以后才了解了详情和最后判决，但其他人会
不会也能立刻想到？不过也许国内新闻曾广泛报道过？另外，我google后的感觉是这个
案子实在太复杂了，所以好多人好像还是对Simpson到底杀妻没有心存疑虑。再让你家
里人帮你参谋参谋，别起到了反作用。
我觉得你写得挺好的，这些意见都是我尽量站在不知情人的角度上吹毛求疵的结果:)。
我和其他小猪的担心一样，写得再好，也会有人故意或不故意地曲解。而且这两天我在
想，如果是朱家刻意地散布这些谣言，可能就是为了把你逼出来，现在也算达到了目的
了,sigh。不过也没法再躲了。但你一定要做好心理准备，要我们帮忙的尽管说，另外
怎么发表，从什么渠道，多少网站开始，还有对可能发生情况的应对（来自朱家，公安
什么的），也要做好准备。虽然我知道你家里人和xxx肯定已经帮你想到了，还是忍不
住多个嘴:P.
好了，正经事说完了，祝各个小猪圣诞快乐，新年好！
--- Yes No wrote:
> sorry, wrong typing, it was "thethruth" to open it
>
> Merry Xmas!
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year.
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>
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 20:44:02 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: to open the 2nd version :(
To: "Jin Ya" , "Fei Gao" , "
Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
Dear Niangzi
Your comment is right!
1. For this point, I thought and thought, read and
read, have the same feeling as you do, so already
deleted from the doc. Although it's true, it will just
make it worse if it's from my mouth :(
2.Good point. And I decided to simplify this part
greatly to avoid people thinking negatively.
3.Simpson?! Niangzi, you have been abroad for toooooo
long! I mean 佘祥林！He was sentensed to death 11
years ago, later changed to Si3 Huan3, cos he was
suspected to have killed his wife. But his wife just
came back home 11 years later!
Have a nice day!
--- Jin Ya wrote:
> 娘子，
>
> 我看过第二版了，再提出几点意见，还是权作参考。
>
>
1。“...朱令也是校社团的积极分子。社团和团委的骨干成员有单独的宿舍楼，不分院
系、年级，既没有熄灯和用电限制也不锁楼门，是大家聚会、活动的中心。朱令经常回
宿舍很晚。她第一次中毒后返校期间仍然每天中午去社团或团委煎药，据她自己说也有
时是别人提前帮她煎好了的。”这一段如果写得再圆滑一点就好了，象加个“举个例子
来说”，“比如说”这样的词句。如果我是不知情的人，很可能会觉得你在暗示这个情
况和中毒有密切关系，如果不是你的本意的话，可能会有一些反面作用。看你的考虑。
>
>
2。你爷爷那一段，我觉得挺好的。不过能不能稍微表达一下你爷爷出身贫寒，自己奋
斗成材的意思，反正就是别让人觉得你们家是那种大的“世家”，有很多人罩着的那种。
>
>
3。“前不久的ｘｘｘ杀妻案为什么会被判刑？就是因为“死者”家属有怀疑，而且又
找到了一具女尸，看似证据确凿，而ｘｘｘ又拿不出证据证明自己无罪。其实这也是许
多未破案件时一些被怀疑人遇到的共同问题。”看到这一段我是想到了你说的应该是"
Simpson"的案子，但我的印象不深，google以后才了解了详情和最后判决，但其他人会
不会也能立刻想到？不过也许国内新闻曾广泛报道过？另外，我google后的感觉是这个
案子实在太复杂了，所以好多人好像还是对Simpson到底杀妻没有心存疑虑。再让你家
里人帮你参谋参谋，别起到了反作用。
>
>
我觉得你写得挺好的，这些意见都是我尽量站在不知情人的角度上吹毛求疵的结果:)。
我和其他小猪的担心一样，写得再好，也会有人故意或不故意地曲解。而且这两天我在
想，如果是朱家刻意地散布这些谣言，可能就是为了把你逼出来，现在也算达到了目的
了,sigh。不过也没法再躲了。但你一定要做好心理准备，要我们帮忙的尽管说，另外
怎么发表，从什么渠道，多少网站开始，还有对可能发生情况的应对（来自朱家，公安
什么的），也要做好准备。虽然我知道你家里人和xxx肯定已经帮你想到了，还是忍不
住多个嘴:P.
>
> 好了，正经事说完了，祝各个小猪圣诞快乐，新年好！
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> > sorry, wrong typing, it was "thethruth" to open it
> >
> > Merry Xmas!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year.
> > http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
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> http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
>
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the same password as usual.
happy new year!
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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:09:50 +0800
Here you go.
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this is what I was working on when Hanlin called.
I will reply to Bei's statement first.
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sorry, my network is so slow....
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Extracted points.
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Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 11:32:48 +0800
Help to check and look if anything I need missed.
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my comment for your reference.
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I added some "meat" :)
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I added some "meat" :)
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Subject: Re: I am back to reality
To: "Hanlin Li"
CC: "Jin Ya" , "Yes No" , "Qi
Wang"
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:25:03 +0800
So early?
I heard qizi said you will go back on Jan. 16th so, I am thinking of
calling you this weekend. Sigh! Am I mis-understand?
Recently, my colleagues asked me serveral times about Zhuling. It looks
the
influence of article "Tian Du" is far enough. I didn't tell them I am
her
classmate. As the looker-on, they are only curious, I think. And I
don't
want to make more curiosity. :(
Gao
Hanlin Li
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I am back to reality
Dear piglets,
I am back to US now, again, I am having post-vacation
trauma. No matter how long I stayed at home, it always
seems too short.
Qizi, I really miss you. I had so much fun hanging out
with you guys. Thank you for the gift, it was really
nice of you. And tell P4 I missed him too. hahaha...
:-)
Sun Xiaozhu, I am really sorry that I didn't really
keep up with the progress on internet after I got to
Shanghai. I felt really guilty for having fun while
you were suffering. So what's new now? any
instructions for what's next? Is your life easier
after the post?
Are you gals still MSN everyday?
Hanlin
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:16:55 -0800 (PST)
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Girls
I don't know how to express my feeling except by
repeating that I'm so moved -- I know I'm not good at
expression feelings :-P although I'm good at being
ironic :-P
Anyway, this is the most memorable "re-union" I had!
Hanlin, never feel bad that you enjoyed your life in
SH -- we all know it even if you don't say a word :-D
-- you are still the same you :-P
And I'm still the same me -- I will also enjoy my life
-- The more they want to torture me, I more I will
live better and enjoy more about life!
An update to you all about current situation:
Zhu's Mom has started raising this issue to new papers
and magazines, and Sina and Sohu reported on the 1st
page.
I'm pretty sure that she will start to target TV soon.
BTW, yesterday the journalist is already calling my
parents home (they get the number from Zhu's family)
and asked to interview me. My dad rejected, but maybe
they will quote my dad's word saying that he rejected
to be interviewed etc. Who knows.
Now, seriously, I do need your help! Cos I'm prepared
either to be exposed by media, or sue them.
And I do need your support to clarify something.
1. Zhu's mom told the journalist that I envy her
daughter and 挑拨朱和另一个舍友的关系, don't know who
though.
So I need the official confirmation from wang qi and
jin ya that I never 挑拨你们和朱的关系。of cause she
can still insist that her daughter said so, but it
will be quite weak, cos if sb want to 挑拨, it should
be from both sides.
2. Zhu's mom told skyoneline (in page 20 of my
statement) that 我造谣说朱社交广泛 while in fact she
was not.
I need also the official confirmation from you all,
and from your own respect, saying that zhu does have
broad social activities, and often doesn't particiapte
class activities.
belle and Hanlin can also, if you still remember,
confirm that zhu is always back to dorm very late,
i.e., when we had fun in our dorm after 晚自习, she is
normally not there.
if you still remember that she sometimes don't even
come back,can say it, but if you don't remember, just
don't say.
Wangqi and Ya, for you two piglets, I need the confirm
from your side that she was always back very late, up
to 12, and sometimes not coming back at all.
I know it's very bad to say it, and that's why in the
past we never tell something like this. but now her
mother is pushing for this and I simply have no choice
at all :-(
Could you?
3. Her mom also said to skyoneline that the "coffee
cup" Bei described was true!
So, need you 2 to confirm again :(
I'm very sorry that all these statements have to be
with your real name.
And I do understand the concern... --- if her family
is this mad, they may hate you all as well if you said
sth for me and again them.
So, absolutely fine if you have the concern. and
absolutely if you can't do it :-)
Anyway, all the best wishes to of the piglets, and
piglets' hbs & bf ：）
Wei
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CC: "Jin Ya" , "Hanlin Li" , "Qi
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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:09:06 +0800
Dear niangzi,
And I also notice there is a person who said he/she is your
neighborhood
and write out your parents' address.
Busy day. Write to you later.
Gao
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Subject
update
Girls
I don't know how to express my feeling except by
repeating that I'm so moved -- I know I'm not good at
expression feelings :-P although I'm good at being
ironic :-P
Anyway, this is the most memorable "re-union" I had!
Hanlin, never feel bad that you enjoyed your life in
SH -- we all know it even if you don't say a word :-D
-- you are still the same you :-P
And I'm still the same me -- I will also enjoy my life
-- The more they want to torture me, I more I will
live better and enjoy more about life!
An update to you all about current situation:
Zhu's Mom has started raising this issue to new papers
and magazines, and Sina and Sohu reported on the 1st
page.
I'm pretty sure that she will start to target TV soon.
BTW, yesterday the journalist is already calling my
parents home (they get the number from Zhu's family)
and asked to interview me. My dad rejected, but maybe
they will quote my dad's word saying that he rejected
to be interviewed etc. Who knows.
Now, seriously, I do need your help! Cos I'm prepared
either to be exposed by media, or sue them.
And I do need your support to clarify something.
1. Zhu's mom told the journalist that I envy her
daughter and 挑拨朱和另一个舍友的关系, don't know who
though.
So I need the official confirmation from wang qi and
jin ya that I never 挑拨你们和朱的关系。of cause she
can still insist that her daughter said so, but it
will be quite weak, cos if sb want to 挑拨, it should
be from both sides.
2. Zhu's mom told skyoneline (in page 20 of my
statement) that 我造谣说朱社交广泛 while in fact she
was not.
I need also the official confirmation from you all,
and from your own respect, saying that zhu does have
broad social activities, and often doesn't particiapte
class activities.
belle and Hanlin can also, if you still remember,
confirm that zhu is always back to dorm very late,
i.e., when we had fun in our dorm after 晚自习, she is
normally not there.
if you still remember that she sometimes don't even
come back,can say it, but if you don't remember, just
don't say.
Wangqi and Ya, for you two piglets, I need the confirm
from your side that she was always back very late, up
to 12, and sometimes not coming back at all.
I know it's very bad to say it, and that's why in the
past we never tell something like this. but now her
mother is pushing for this and I simply have no choice
at all :-(
Could you?
3. Her mom also said to skyoneline that the "coffee
cup" Bei described was true!
So, need you 2 to confirm again :(
I'm very sorry that all these statements have to be
with your real name.
And I do understand the concern... --- if her family
is this mad, they may hate you all as well if you said
sth for me and again them.
So, absolutely fine if you have the concern. and
absolutely if you can't do it :-)
Anyway, all the best wishes to of the piglets, and
piglets' hbs & bf ：）
Wei
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Sorry, niangzi, I will speak in a frank way here, hope
you don't mind: As I told xxx yesterday, I am
willing to help, for sure. My concern is that you
will speak to media first? I am somewhat afraid it
will finally develop to a mouth fighting (da3 zui3
zhang4), like on Tianya. If to Gong-an, I have no
problem to give my statement; but to media, I suggest
you have a more thorough consideration, it may finally
be a bigger and wider mess and be no real help for
solving the problem. Of course, niangzi, if finally
no way but only fighting through media, I will stand
out to clarify those point.
Best regards,
Jin
PS: Hanlin's dream is also my dream~~~a very
handsome..., but it is just a dream, have to admit :P.
Hanlin, I guess you bought many good stuff in
Shanghai? How about the foods there?
--- Yes No wrote:
> Girls
> I don't know how to express my feeling except by
> repeating that I'm so moved -- I know I'm not good
> at
> expression feelings :-P although I'm good at being
> ironic :-P
> Anyway, this is the most memorable "re-union" I had!
>
> Hanlin, never feel bad that you enjoyed your life in
> SH -- we all know it even if you don't say a word
> :-D
> -- you are still the same you :-P
> And I'm still the same me -- I will also enjoy my
> life
> -- The more they want to torture me, I more I will
> live better and enjoy more about life!
>
> An update to you all about current situation:
> Zhu's Mom has started raising this issue to new
> papers
> and magazines, and Sina and Sohu reported on the 1st
> page.
> I'm pretty sure that she will start to target TV
> soon.
> BTW, yesterday the journalist is already calling my
> parents home (they get the number from Zhu's family)
> and asked to interview me. My dad rejected, but
> maybe
> they will quote my dad's word saying that he
> rejected
> to be interviewed etc. Who knows.
>
> Now, seriously, I do need your help! Cos I'm
> prepared
> either to be exposed by media, or sue them.
> And I do need your support to clarify something.
>
> 1. Zhu's mom told the journalist that I envy her
> daughter and 挑拨謥E土桓錾嵊训墓叵? don't know
> who
> though.
> So I need the official confirmation from wang qi and
> jin ya that I never 挑拨你们和謥E墓叵怠f cause she
> can still insist that her daughter said so, but it
> will be quite weak, cos if sb want to 挑拨, it
> should
> be from both sides.
>
> 2. Zhu's mom told skyoneline (in page 20 of my
> statement) that 我詠Eニ抵丒缃还惴?while in fact she
> was not.
> I need also the official confirmation from you all,
> and from your own respect, saying that zhu does have
> broad social activities, and often doesn't
> particiapte
> class activities.
> belle and Hanlin can also, if you still remember,
> confirm that zhu is always back to dorm very late,
> i.e., when we had fun in our dorm after 旺笤习, she
> is
> normally not there.
> if you still remember that she sometimes don't even
> come back,can say it, but if you don't remember,
> just
> don't say.
>
> Wangqi and Ya, for you two piglets, I need the
> confirm
> from your side that she was always back very late,
> up
> to 12, and sometimes not coming back at all.
>
> I know it's very bad to say it, and that's why in
> the
> past we never tell something like this. but now her
> mother is pushing for this and I simply have no
> choice
> at all :-(
>
> Could you?
>
> 3. Her mom also said to skyoneline that the "coffee
> cup" Bei described was true!
> So, need you 2 to confirm again :(
>
>
> I'm very sorry that all these statements have to be
> with your real name.
> And I do understand the concern... --- if her family
> is this mad, they may hate you all as well if you
> said
> sth for me and again them.
>
> So, absolutely fine if you have the concern. and
> absolutely if you can't do it :-)
>
> Anyway, all the best wishes to of the piglets, and
> piglets' hbs & bf ：）
>
> Wei
>
>
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Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:21:54 -0800 (PST)
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Girls,
I finally find out that now there is no sense to spend
further time on internet cos there are sooooooo many
virius people there. Our words are already out, normal
people will take it, and that’s what we expect. For
the mad dogs, just let them bark.
My family will follow the internet. If they find out
really some critical things and need your help, I will
let you know, either wise, no need to pay attention on
it.
One thing I really need your help urgently is the Tl
papers. As I’m busy with the letters to police, not
much time. So could you pls help with the papers. ：（
你们有空帮着看看文献并翻译吗？
不用全翻！我们感兴趣的只是：有没有可能是一次中毒。
估计很少有2次中毒的case，所以如果是一次中毒的文章，只需要看一下中毒后如果没
有及时（2-3个月）治疗的症状，如果提前治疗了的文章就可以仍一边根本不用看了。
如果看到2-3个月没有治疗的case，不论是否支持我们希望的结论，都请把相关时间—
症状部分翻译一下，并翻译一下患者的年龄、性别、体质/身体状况等。
金亚帮着查了一堆文献，xxx分发一下，能分头处理一下吗？俺俩忙晕了，还有好多文
章要写：（
many thanks!
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:19:29 -0800 (PST)
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Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
刚在天涯上看见“李含琳”发的帖子"请大家放过薛刚，谢谢！"
It says:
“这个世界上不会有无缘无故的爱，也不会有无缘无故的恨。他说过什么，做过什么，
一定都是有原因的；但是有一点，他不是坏人，我也不是，我们都没有坏心，请大家放
过他，放过我们一家。
11年过去了，该消失的早已消失，网络上再声势浩大，也不过是虚拟的东西，为什么还
要紧紧咬住不放呢？如果真的有人下毒，这些年来她必定也不好过，为什么一定要掀什
么来呢？
我不知道继续下去会有什么结果。我只想安安静静地做一个普通的人。请大家放过我们
吧，谢谢！”
He/she first pretent to look like real hanlin, and the
next step, I guess, is to say something really bad.
here it already started to imply that if I am the
murderer, i must have already suffered these years, so
let me go. And in the future, all "your" words or
words from classmates could be interpretated as they
are helping me to escape from the punishment even if i
am the murderer, cos I have already suffered a lot. SO
MEAN!!!
So it's quite clear that there is no sense to spend
further time on internet cos there are sooooooo many
virius people there. Our words are already out, normal
people will take it, and that’s what we expect. For
the mad dogs, just let them bark.
My family will follow the internet. If they find out
really some critical things and need your help, I will
let you know, either wise, no need to pay attention on
it.
Keep carm, keep cool!
I actually feel very sorry that it bring you all
"famous" :( -- although in the past, i'm always very
causious, and prepared that there are some people who
are very bad, but it's just always beyond my
imagaination how virus could people be ：（
ｓｉｇｈ ：（
Girls！Take care of yourselves!!!
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hanlin & Gang
Sorry that I need the help from you urgently for some
paper searching and translation :(
The purpose is to find out if Zhu ling’s case might
be just poisioned one, just like 熊猫累累& 感而后动
mentioned.
Jinya was searching a lot of papers, maybe you can
search as well from US? Might be different result?
What I need is the cases in which the patient was NOT
treated in time, better not treated after 1 or 2 or
even 3 months,so that we can have a look if the
symptoms are similar to Zhu Ling’s case.
So just need to very quickly filter the search result
and can simple throw the paper away if the patient was
treated in time.
If you find out the “suitable” case, pls help to
translate ONLY how the symptoms developed over time,
NO ＮＥＥD to translate how to treat it etc. Pls also
include the patients age, sex, general health
situation if any, and also the source of this paper.
Jin Ya will send you the paper she has already found
out that fulfill above “requirement” so that you
don’t need to translate again if you find the same
docs.
Can you help with it during these 2 days? Sorry for
the rush ? -- we very much need it for the doc
to police.
Many thanks in advance!
TAKE CARE!
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1. I searched on PubMed with keywords "thallium" and
"poisoning".
2. In the about 600 papers, I got 3 papers that may be
useful (with full text). My filtering condition is:
once poisoning; acute or subacute; after exposure to
Tl, no appropriate treatment for more than 1 month. I
will translate the corresponding parts in these three
papers.
3. Since I have no full-text access to some journals,
for many papers I could only get their abstracts. I
had a look at all the abstracts of papers published
after July 1992, and I include in the attachment those
that maybe useful (need checking full-text to know),
so that if you can access to their full-text files,
have a look.
4. To extract the compressed file, save all the four
files in the same folder and click the *.part1.ext
file. (i am so "luo1 suo1", :P)
5. Naturally everyone has his/her favorite searching
strategy for papers, so I do expect hanlin or P2 will
find some useful papers other than what I got, that'll
be very cool :)
Girls, take care!
attach15_by_jinya.rar
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Hanlin,
I just found today on Sina, in Wu Hong fei's blog, she
reported Zhu's case, and in the reply, i find somebody
pretending to be Xue Gang as well.
回复 网易网友(222.32.112.*):
清华物化2班的的朱令的同学们，你们真的就都是些自私自利见利忘义的小人？就没有
一个
象贝志成那样敢于说话吗？这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清
华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是
清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！！！！！清华的同学门，你们还有良心
吗，不做噩梦吗？？？？
我是物化2班的团支书，我真的不忍心看到有关朱朱的所有东西，这些年来我一直生活
在自责于内疚之中，我不知道我该怎么做，其实这件事要真的查出真相一点都不难，国
务院督办！我能说的就是当年朱朱第二次中毒孙维被传的时候，院领导和系部召开了一
次很秘密的会议，我是唯一一个参加会议的在校学生，也许他们知道通知我开会是个很
大的错误，当中讲了一会儿的时候系主任叫我回去了，但我在我所在场的18分钟内，我
已经知道内容大概了，我的任务是事件保密和按护全班同学，不准单独核查和不准猜测
议论，在会议中提到是孙主席指示的，而且有关方面在为维维准备出国手续，后来我知
道是孙浮林。
到这里大家心理也很清楚，这件事如果中央不出面的话，在中国目前这个体制里，朱朱
事件只有沉冤！！！光凭一个贝志诚是不够的。
这些年我没有站出来，我有我的苦衷，包括我们2班所有同学。我们经常会收到拿我们
自己性命和家人性命以及工作等等相关的威胁！株连九族大家或许只在电视上见过，可
这些随时可以发生在我们2班同学身上。
我希望中央能真的重视这个案件，还朱朱一个公道。就是高院和高检都没办法的，只有
中央！！！
So you couple are both used :-P
Kidding, I think now the situation is really very bad.
People are much worse than I thought. But in stead of
getting angry, like couple of weeks ago, I feel
amused, strange hum? These people are too dirty for me
to be angry with them :)
So girls, i think we don't need further clarify things
on internet, unless something really important pop-up
-- I doubt though. Anyway, my family is monitering.
So let's live our normal life.
If for something I need help, i will shout :-)
So basically, the help I needed from you all:
1. Paper related: Ya and Hanlin couple -- "tasks"
already sent in another mail :-P
2. the supporting letter I previously sent out -- less
urgent than above paper, so take your time :-)
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To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
Dear Hanlin
Shocked to hear it!! These days I repeated again and
again, telling myself, and xxx, and jinya, that I now
really really understand why Chinese had Cultural
Revolution!
I don't even have your home number! I just got Gang's
mobile from Panfeng last night, try to talk to you but
didn't get connected.
Hanlin,
I'm very very sorry and sad to get you involved in
this dirty thing, especially that you all did it just
to support me :(
I don't know what to say... I'm really very very
sorry!
Things here is also very bad. Somebody claim living in
the same building as my parents posted their address
and call for people to post sth like da4 zi4 bao4 in &
around the building,and also to all the nagbours'
mailbox etc. I can't go home now. And have to get
prepared to "escape" from my own home as soon as
digged out.
Here in China there is no law or human right, and the
police will do nothing about it, but in US should be
different. Would you consult your lawyer how to handle
it? Or can you report to police ahead to prevent
something bad?
BTW, be careful of to all your acquaintance, if bad
guys trying to find out your personal info, it's very
likely from them, and we don't know whether they leak
it out accidentally or on purpose.
TAKE CARE TAKE CARE!!!
As said, I can't go to my parents home now, so contact
my own home before I have to move. 8295-3037, or xxx's
mobile at 13501024175. I'm at work and not convenient
to talk :(.
FYI I only made 2 posts, the 1st one you all know, 2nd
is called "Sun Wei de Zai sheng Ming", mainly 3
points: 1. appologize for the "evedropper", we made a
mistake, it IS a music cup :( 2.I've already submitted
to police and official application, ask them to
re-investigate the case. 3. new rumors, I won't
explain anymore.
I will ask xxx to forward you the whole statement.
For other so called statement, like I already hired
laywer etc,are all bullshit. I haven't posted anything
like those.
BTW, pls also send me your home number so that we can
talk in emergency.
Also, girls, if you have time, download the skypie
which xxx recommend, cos it's encrypted, and can also
do conference talk.
Talk to you all later!
TAKE CARE EVERYBODY!
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Sorry I haven't checked my home emails for days. I
> was
> back to the hectic life at work, had to work
> overtime
> on Friday. Well, the vacation is over, indeed.
>
> Anyway, Gang and I will do some more literature
> search, and hopefully come up with something useful.
>
> Just now, Gang is talking with someone we don't know
> on the phone. looks like the situation is really bad
> now, they dig out everything about us, they know our
> home phone number, address, where we work, even know
> we came back to US on Jan. 9 (Belle doesn't even
> know
> that!). what worries me now is that wangqi and jinya
> won't be hidden for long. Anyway, we all need to be
> prepared for the worst.
>
> Sun xiaozhu, did you post another statement on the
> internet around Jan. 8? are you solicting the
> engagement of police system? I need to know what
> your
> position is. Could you forward that statement to me
> and Gang?
>
> Talk to you later. I may need to give you a call
> some
> time. should I still use your parents' number?
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> > Hanlin,
> > I just found today on Sina, in Wu Hong fei's blog,
> > she
> > reported Zhu's case, and in the reply, i find
> > somebody
> > pretending to be Xue Gang as well.
> >
> > 回复 网易网友(222.32.112.*):
> >
>
清华物化2班的的朱令的同学们，你们真的就都是些自私自利见利忘义的小人？就没有
一个
> >
>
象贝志成那样敢于说话吗？这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清
> >
>
华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是
> >
>
清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！！！！！清华的同学门，你们还有良心
> > 吗，不做噩梦吗？？？？
> >
> >
>
我是物化2班的团支书，我真的不忍心看到有关朱朱的所有东西，这些年来我一直生活
在自责于内疚之中，我不知道我该怎么做，其实这件事要真的查出真相一点都不难，国
务院督办！我能说的就是当年朱朱第二次中毒孙维被传的时候，院领导和系部召开了一
次很秘密的会议，我是唯一一个参加会议的在校学生，也许他们知道通知我开会是个很
大的错误，当中讲了一会儿的时候系主任叫我回去了，但我在我所在场的18分钟内，我
已经知道内容大概了，我的任务是事件保密和按护全班同学，不准单独核查和不准猜测
议论，在会议中提到是孙主席指示的，而且有关方面在为维维准备出国手续，后来我知
道是孙浮林。
> >
> >
> >
>
到这里大家心理也很清楚，这件事如果中央不出面的话，在中国目前这个体制里，朱朱
事件只有沉冤！！！光凭一个贝志诚是不够的。
> >
> >
>
这些年我没有站出来，我有我的苦衷，包括我们2班所有同学。我们经常会收到拿我们
自己性命和家人性命以及工作等等相关的威胁！株连九族大家或许只在电视上见过，可
这些随时可以发生在我们2班同学身上。
> >
> >
>
我希望中央能真的重视这个案件，还朱朱一个公道。就是高院和高检都没办法的，只有
中央！！！
> >
> >
> > So you couple are both used :-P
> >
> > Kidding, I think now the situation is really very
> > bad.
> > People are much worse than I thought. But in stead
> > of
> > getting angry, like couple of weeks ago, I feel
> > amused, strange hum? These people are too dirty
> for
> > me
> > to be angry with them :)
> >
> > So girls, i think we don't need further clarify
> > things
> > on internet, unless something really important
> > pop-up
> > -- I doubt though. Anyway, my family is
> monitering.
> > So let's live our normal life.
> > If for something I need help, i will shout :-)
> >
> > So basically, the help I needed from you all:
> > 1. Paper related: Ya and Hanlin couple -- "tasks"
> > already sent in another mail :-P
> >
> > 2. the supporting letter I previously sent out --
> > less
> > urgent than above paper, so take your time :-)
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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To: "Fei Gao" , "Hanlin Li" , "Qi
Wang" , s********[email protected]
You know what? This morning my professor, in
surprise, showed me an anonymous email saying I am a
suspect of a poisoning case and asking for my contact
address. (email address is a newly registered "zhu
guan" and the g******[email protected], guess should be 朱关
and 关心朱令).
I guess this should be from a person who know I am the
roommate. The good point is they don't know I am
still in the same lab (since the lab's homepage
doesn't include my name), or they may be more crazy to
do something. My professor of course thinks it's
ridiculous and trusts me, dont worry.
Things are getting so messy, I also read a guy
pretending to be qizi, while giving the Ph.D thesis
title of that male wangqi's to prove he/she is real
wangqi. Faint to death.
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> Don't feel bad, I was digged out mainly because of
> Gang, as the wife of Zhi1 Shu1. And like you said,
> it
> made me feel much safer than you guys because I am
> in
> US, they can't do much about me. If there were
> anything outrageous happened, I could seek law
> enforcement. Looks like now they think WQ and I live
> in the same room with you, so yazi may be safe for a
> while. It was our careless mistake that we didn't
> change our phone number after we move to the current
> address. We thought it would be easier for the
> people
> we knew to keep in touch with us. Well, guess what!
> Anyway, I have a caller id at home, so I can filter
> calls and won't take unrecognized calls.
>
> FYI, here is my contact information:
>
> Home phone: (860) 437-7804
> Cell: (860) 235-0671
> Gang's cell: (860) 912-5392
>
> During my working hours (your night time), you may
> want to send emails to my pfizer email:
> h*******[email protected], so I can get it instantly. I
> don't check my personal email that often at work.
>
> TAKE CARE,
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
CC: f*******[email protected]
Hanlin
So so so sorry to make you all famous! :-( Be really
careful, those people can do anything. Digging out the
info is 1st step, next they may do things more mean.
Like Jinya's boss got the anonymos letter saying she
was the suspect! You & Gang need to be very careful,
especially you, as somebody think you were the
roommate. Maybe you want to inform your boss ahead?
If he/she knows about cultural revolution, it's easier
for them to understand, like Ya's boss. Anyway, you
decide yourself, but just get prepared...
Don't be chou4 mei3 about the comment of being "Liang4
li4" :-P
They won't stop doing mean things simply because you
are "Liang4 Li4".
BTW, maybe you want to share with us your "liang li"
picture in high-school? I haven't seen it before :-)
I also remembered I saw somewhere people found out the
amount of Gang's denate to ZhuLing and people are
spreading virus words, saying it's too little etc. I
was sooo furious! How ugly people are!! Recently I'm
always surprised about this topic :(
Back to your question, according to media, it's
lethal, I mean dose in ZL's blood.
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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To: "Hanlin Li" , "Fei Gao" , "
Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang" , "sun wei" <
s********[email protected]>
Oh, yes? Somebody digged out my photo from my lab's
homepage? I am sure it was removed last year after
the previous scholarship ended. So somebody saved the
old page even that early? I am somewhat shocked. En,
anyway, though I am sure they won't saying me "liang4
li4", don't say me "man3 lian3 heng2 rou4" like poor
sun niangzi, :)).
About the format of list of my hit references, the
format I saved can't be open in ur office? If you
mean the 200 papers' (the first 10 pages of my
searching hits) info., I am attaching it here the txt
format file, though many of them are not very useful.
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
attach16_by_jinya_list in txt.txt
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To: "Hanlin Li" , "Fei Gao" , "
Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang" , "sun wei" <
s********[email protected]>
hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really "capable"
of digging out others' privacy. I found they deduced
me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable, :)
http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635 (except my
publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when u
read.
by the way, I saw:
『天涯杂谈』 暂停“朱令铊中毒事件”讨论的通知
作者：webmaster 提交日期：2006-1-19 12:06:00
为有利于事件的顺利解决，有关“朱令铊中毒事件”话题暂停讨论，敬请各位网友
配合。
特此通知
2006-1-19
--------------------------------
So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really hope
so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
something.
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
Subject: Re: BTW, pls include xxx for this discussion
To: "Jin Ya"
CC: "Hanlin Li" , "Hanlin Li" , "sun
wei" , "Qi Wang"
From: r******[email protected] View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:39:51 +0800
Dear meizi,
I have not noticed what you wrote in the following e-mail. I just
noticed
tianya has banned this topic. It made me happy because some id is
really
mean and the discussion is absolutely bullshit and nonsense.
These days I am a little busy so not to talk with you by msn, sorry for
it.
Also sorry for niangzi that I didn't help in looking through the
documents.
:(
Talk to you later.
TAKE CARE, PIGLETS!
Gao
Jin Ya
com>
To
Hanlin Li ,
Fei
01/20/2006 11:55 Gao ,
AM Hanlin Li , Qi
Wang , sun
wei
cc
Subject
Re: BTW, pls include xxx for
this
discussion
hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really "capable"
of digging out others' privacy. I found they deduced
me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable, :)
http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635 (except my
publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when u
read.
by the way, I saw:
『天涯杂谈』 暂停“朱令铊中毒事件”讨论的通知
作者：webmaster 提交日期：2006-1-19 12:06:00
为有利于事件的顺利解决，有关“朱令铊中毒事件”话
题暂停讨论，敬请各位网友配合。
特此通知
2006-1-19
--------------------------------
So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really hope
so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
something.
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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To: "Jin Ya" , "Hanlin Li" , "Fei
Gao" , "Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
@gffunds.com.cn>
It's a surprise to see Jin Niangzi have actually
published so many papers!! :-) Surprise surprise, I
thought she only spend the time playing around in
Tsinghua :-D
BTW, Niangzi, your picture from lab is quite good
looking :-) Absolutely not "man3 lian3 heng2 rou4"
like me :"(
Yesterday I still saw a lot of posts on Tianya, and
people are again posting my previous work and my
parents home etc. To be frank I don't know why Tianya
suddenly stopped. I don't think it's police, cos in
Sina and many other sites it's still very hot. Why
they only stop Tianya then? If, IF, it's really Gong
An, want to carm down this thing, they again proved
themselves to be stupid, only find Tianya and ignored
other sites? As stupid as before when they are
investigating Zhu Ling's case!
Anyway, TAKE CARE all!
Wei
--- Jin Ya wrote:
> hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really "capable"
> of digging out others' privacy. I found they
> deduced
> me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable, :)
> http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635 (except
> my
> publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
> wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when u
> read.
>
> by the way, I saw:
>
> 『天涯杂谈』 暂停“朱令铊中毒事件”讨论的通知
>
>
> 作者：webmaster 提交日期：2006-1-19 12:06:00
>
>
为有利于事件的顺利解决，有关“朱令铊中毒事件”话题暂停讨论，敬请各位网友
配合。
>
>
>
> 特此通知
> 2006-1-19
> --------------------------------
>
> So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really
> hope
> so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
> something.
>
> --- Hanlin Li wrote:
>
> > Sun Xiaozhu,
> >
> > I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> > from
> > Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> > references
> > don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> > couple of papers of interest through our
> > inter-library
> > loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> > striking information was obtained. The patients
> > cited
> > in most papers were administrated and treated in
> > hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> > long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose
> in
> > Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> > again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
> >
> > Yazi,
> >
> > The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> > can
> > only open them at home (which doesn't help much).
> I
> > need to have the list of your hit references (was
> it
> > 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> > work
> > and do searches.
> >
> > Now my name is all over the place on internet, I
> am
> > the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> > shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> > search and find my current home address, my
> pictures
> > from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer
> title,
> > and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> > google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the
> bright
> > side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> > "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> > Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4
> girl,
> > as
> > I was told someone has already digged out your
> > picture
> > from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> > even
> > know where it is. :-)
> >
> > I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is
> now
> > banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep
> me
> > posted for anything new.
> >
> > Take care, all piglets.
> >
> > Hanlin
> >
> > --- Yes No wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > > protection around
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> > >
> >
> >
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Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:18:49 -0800 (PST)
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To: r******[email protected], "Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
gffunds.com.cn>, "sun wei"
The topic is still hot in sina and other websites ?
fuuuuuuuuu, disappointed. I thought a big action will
be made by our police uncles, :(, seems they are
really nuts.
Thanks for comforting~~~, belle and niangzi, but
really, ignore those stupid publications, every
chinese papers I wrote was rubbish, :P (wang xiaozhu
will understand immediately :)) )
You take care, too! Have a good weekend!
--- r******[email protected] wrote:
> I have looked through that article just now and
> agree with Sun xiaozhu.
> Hehe, the picture looks nice.
>
> Actually, the information they digged out let me
> know you are so excellent!
> Cheers! :)
>
> TAKE CARE, ALL!
>
> Gao
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes No
>
>
>
> .com>
> To
> Jin Ya
> ,
> 01/20/2006 02:20 Hanlin Li
> , Fei
> PM Gao
> ,
> Hanlin Li
> , Qi
> Wang
>
>
> cc
>
>
>
> Subject
> Re: BTW, pls
> include xxx for this
> discussion
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's a surprise to see Jin Niangzi have actually
> published so many papers!! :-) Surprise surprise, I
> thought she only spend the time playing around in
> Tsinghua :-D
>
> BTW, Niangzi, your picture from lab is quite good
> looking :-) Absolutely not "man3 lian3 heng2 rou4"
> like me :"(
>
> Yesterday I still saw a lot of posts on Tianya, and
> people are again posting my previous work and my
> parents home etc. To be frank I don't know why
> Tianya
> suddenly stopped. I don't think it's police, cos in
> Sina and many other sites it's still very hot. Why
> they only stop Tianya then? If, IF, it's really Gong
> An, want to carm down this thing, they again proved
> themselves to be stupid, only find Tianya and
> ignored
> other sites? As stupid as before when they are
> investigating Zhu Ling's case!
>
> Anyway, TAKE CARE all!
>
> Wei
>
> --- Jin Ya wrote:
>
> > hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really
> "capable"
> > of digging out others' privacy. I found they
> > deduced
> > me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable,
> :)
> > http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635
> (except
> > my
> > publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
> > wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when
> u
> > read.
> >
> > by the way, I saw:
> >
> > 『虂E脑犹浮?暂停“謥E丒柚卸臼录碧致鄣耐ㄖ?> >
> >
> > 作者：webmaster 提交日期：2006-1-19 12:06:00
> >
> >
> 为有利于事件的顺利解决，有关“謥E丒柚卸臼录被?> 题暂停讨论，敬莵E魑
煌雅浜稀?> >
> >
> >
> > 特此通知
> > 2006-1-19
> > --------------------------------
> >
> > So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really
> > hope
> > so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
> > something.
> >
> > --- Hanlin Li wrote:
> >
> > > Sun Xiaozhu,
> > >
> > > I've searched a different database
> (OVID/MEDLINE)
> > > from
> > > Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> > > references
> > > don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> > > couple of papers of interest through our
> > > inter-library
> > > loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> > > striking information was obtained. The patients
> > > cited
> > > in most papers were administrated and treated in
> > > hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored
> for
> > > long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose
> > in
> > > Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure
> out
> > > again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
> > >
> > > Yazi,
> > >
> > > The attachements you sent in your earlier email,
> I
> > > can
> > > only open them at home (which doesn't help
> much).
> > I
> > > need to have the list of your hit references
> (was
> > it
> > > 300?) in some other format, so I can open them
> at
> > > work
> > > and do searches.
> > >
> > > Now my name is all over the place on internet, I
> > am
> > > the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> > > shocked at their "capability", they did a
> reverse
> > > search and find my current home address, my
> > pictures
> > > from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer
> > title,
> > > and even attached a satillite map of my house
> from
> > > google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the
> > bright
> > > side of it, as I found somebody referred me as
> the
> > > "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah?
> So,
> > > Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4
> > girl,
> > > as
> > > I was told someone has already digged out your
> > > picture
> > > from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> > > even
> > > know where it is. :-)
> > >
> > > I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is
> > now
> > > banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway,
> keep
> > me
> > > posted for anything new.
> > >
> > > Take care, all piglets.
> > >
> > > Hanlin
> > >
> > > --- Yes No wrote:
> > >
>
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Subject: Re: BTW, pls include xxx for this discussion
To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
CC: f*******[email protected]
Hanlin,
I VERY VERY much agree with you: I always talk with
xxx, how ugly human nature can be when they don't need
to be responsible!
I also talked with my brother about what they did to
you, you know what my brother said? He was very angry
and said you should claim back the money, including
the interest! :-P
I fully understand your feeling -- I also feel so
discusting when read it. I have to say you are very
nice and still think it's not a good idea, if I were
you, i will never donate anymore. It's not about the
money at all, it's the feeling. I just hate my
kindness being USED by ugly people!
Hanlin
One thing I think we should do now is, I also told
other piglets, to collect materials and "evidence"
that these people are mad, and they are doing crazy
things just to po4 hai4 us. I don't know exactly how
are we going to use the material yet, but it doesn't
harm to collect it.
So could you pls collect these virus message / people/
ID, save the content so that it's readable offline
even if they delete it one day, or screenshot as well.
For those bad things, i.e., hurting your private
life/privacy, work, curse, virus words, so something
like saying we are he2 mou2 murdering etc.
Collect them now.
One good side benifit is that if you think of this
purpose, you no longer get angry when reading those
posts :-) It works on me quite well :)
Again, take care!
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Agree with all, that Yazi's does look great in the
> picture, free advertisement! and I wouldn't be
> surprised that they find out Yazi is still
> available.
> :-), so...., Yazi, be prepared to get more love
> letters from secret admirers. :-)))
>
> The two pictures of mine were actully my recent
> pictures (2-3 years ago), which I posted onto my
> high-school alumni webpage, where the inside and
> outside of my house were shown. I know they are
> attacking us because they saw the house, that we
> work
> in a pretigeous pharm., they even estimated our
> annual
> income, and saying we were donating too little. but
> they didn't know we are actually donating annually
> through our company's donation program so the fund
> org. can get 100% match from Pfizer. But guess what,
> I
> got so disgusted about the discussion, it actually
> made me think that I probably won't donate any more
> in
> the future. I know it is bad thinking, but I am just
> so sick of it. What right do they have to finger
> point
> us! Forget it!!!
>
> I think it would be hard for them to find out who my
> boss is, because my boss just keeps changing. :-) I
> am
> going to meet my 5th boss (in 4 years) in the next
> month or so. Hopefully, they won't find HR, that's
> when I may get into trouble. Anyway, I will be
> prepared. These days, my Chinese colleagues keep
> asking me, why they are aftering us, what are they
> up
> to? That's exactly the thing I couldn't understand,
> what are they thinking when they do these mean
> things,
> just for fun? or they really believe they are
> someone,
> while in reality they are nobody? People! Ugly
> people!
>
> You all take care!
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> > Hanlin
> > So so so sorry to make you all famous! :-( Be
> really
> > careful, those people can do anything. Digging out
> > the
> > info is 1st step, next they may do things more
> mean.
> > Like Jinya's boss got the anonymos letter saying
> she
> > was the suspect! You & Gang need to be very
> careful,
> > especially you, as somebody think you were the
> > roommate. Maybe you want to inform your boss
> ahead?
> > If he/she knows about cultural revolution, it's
> > easier
> > for them to understand, like Ya's boss. Anyway,
> you
> > decide yourself, but just get prepared...
> >
> > Don't be chou4 mei3 about the comment of being
> > "Liang4
> > li4" :-P
> > They won't stop doing mean things simply because
> you
> > are "Liang4 Li4".
> > BTW, maybe you want to share with us your "liang
> li"
> > picture in high-school? I haven't seen it before
> :-)
> > I also remembered I saw somewhere people found out
> > the
> > amount of Gang's denate to ZhuLing and people are
> > spreading virus words, saying it's too little etc.
> I
> > was sooo furious! How ugly people are!! Recently
> I'm
> > always surprised about this topic :(
> >
> > Back to your question, according to media, it's
> > lethal, I mean dose in ZL's blood.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Hanlin Li wrote:
> >
> > > Sun Xiaozhu,
> > >
> > > I've searched a different database
> (OVID/MEDLINE)
> > > from
> > > Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> > > references
> > > don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> > > couple of papers of interest through our
> > > inter-library
> > > loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> > > striking information was obtained. The patients
> > > cited
> > > in most papers were administrated and treated in
> > > hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored
> for
> > > long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose
> > in
> > > Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure
> out
> > > again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
> > >
> > > Yazi,
> > >
> > > The attachements you sent in your earlier email,
> I
> > > can
> > > only open them at home (which doesn't help
> much).
> > I
> > > need to have the list of your hit references
> (was
> > it
> > > 300?) in some other format, so I can open them
> at
> > > work
> > > and do searches.
> > >
> > > Now my name is all over the place on internet, I
> > am
> > > the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> > > shocked at their "capability", they did a
> reverse
> > > search and find my current home address, my
> > pictures
> > > from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer
> > title,
> > > and even attached a satillite map of my house
> from
> > > google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the
> > bright
> > > side of it, as I found somebody referred me as
> the
> > > "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah?
> So,
> > > Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4
> > girl,
> > > as
> > > I was told someone has already digged out your
> > > picture
> > > from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> > > even
> > > know where it is. :-)
> > >
> > > I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is
> > now
> > > banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway,
> keep
> > me
> > > posted for anything new.
> > >
> > > Take care, all piglets.
> > >
> > > Hanlin
> > >
> > > --- Yes No wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > __________________________________________________
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Subject: Re: I am back and need your contact info
To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "sun wei"
Date: Mon, 12 Dec 2005 13:35:20 +0800
so glad to hear from u from shanghai.
my cell: 13600072567
PF: 13570066776
contact u later, see u.
On Sat, 10 Dec 2005 18:06:27 -0800 (PST)
Hanlin Li wrote:
> Dear piglets,
>
> I am back in China. It is a lot colder than I
> expected, fortunately, indoor temp. is very
> comfortable.
>
> I left from US in a hurry and didn't take your contact
> informaiton with me, could all of you please send me
> your phone numbers so I can reach you?
>
> I will start first:
>
> My home phone # at Anshan is : 0412-673-2565 and I
> also have a cell phone @ 136-1080-9319.
>
> Qizi,
>
> please send me P4's phone # as well, so Gang can bug
> him. :-)
>
> I am so looking forward to meeting all of you in
> Shanghai!
>
> Talk to you later.
>
> Hanlin
Subject: Re: I am back and need your contact info
To: "Hanlin Li"
CC: "Jin Ya" , "sun wei" , "Qi
Wang"
From: r******[email protected] View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2005 15:14:02 +0800
My mobil phone is 13530655861. I am afraid I can not go to shanghai for
reunion because these days our business is very busy. Sorry for this
bad
news.
Merry x-mas and happy new year to all of you in advance.
Hanlin Li
To
12/11/2005 10:06 r******[email protected], Jin Ya
AM , sun wei
, Qi Wang
cc
Subject
I am back and need your contact
info
Dear piglets,
I am back in China. It is a lot colder than I
expected, fortunately, indoor temp. is very
comfortable.
I left from US in a hurry and didn't take your contact
informaiton with me, could all of you please send me
your phone numbers so I can reach you?
I will start first:
My home phone # at Anshan is : 0412-673-2565 and I
also have a cell phone @ 136-1080-9319.
Qizi,
please send me P4's phone # as well, so Gang can bug
him. :-)
I am so looking forward to meeting all of you in
Shanghai!
Talk to you later.
Hanlin
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Subject: 来自清华
李含琳：
你好!你好!
无论是清华环境系校友的身份还是《南方周末》记者的名义，我都有足够的情感和理性
在今天
继续关注朱令
“铊中毒”事件。这一事件十年前就引起轩然大波，十年后仍未定案，不仅朱
令同学本人深受其害，她的家人也一直处于孤独的痛苦当中，而且也给那些关心过朱令
帮助过
朱令的朋友们留下了诸多不解和疑团。
我努力去找过化学系的老师和物化2班的同学。但是我还不敢惊动大部分人。包括一些
退休的
老师.我了解的情况是:大家已经很尽力。而当时一些媒体的不当报道,却可能伤害了大
家的感
情。大家一方面同情朱令，一方面又想保护同学.作为清华的学生，我不相信我的同学
是冷漠
的，相反，我认为这里面，肯定存在着一些相互的误解和微妙的抵触.而这些究竟是什
么?什么
造成了这种不信任?是不是怕伤害到了无辜?我也看到了有些同学，为孙维辩护.我完全
理解:因
为我们不会傻到先定一个人有罪,再去寻找他的过失.这是无论如何一个有智商的人，都
不会这
么做的。因为要公正,我相信你们也是这么想的。
昨天我甚至见到了和朱令一起演出的艺术团的一个校园歌手.也许大家都知道他。他现
在已经
几乎很成名了，踌躇满志,要回清华开咖啡馆,在北院.当时我心里很难过，我听到一个
98级化
学系的孩子说，年年提这个事情，年年没有结果.我听了更是伤感。
我去拜访过朱令父母。他们还在不停信访.朱母曾经因去年摔倒而开了脑颅.她感到自己
老了，
家里也没有其他人了。没有人可以照顾朱令.她想的是,怎么办?如果她去了，她说,就让
朱令也
和我一起去吧.
我当时,真是无话可说了。
他们并没有努力申诉自己的冤屈,我感到的不是他们的委屈和仇恨，而是对生命的尊重.
是一种
意志力.活下去的意志.那时候,我甚至不敢问:你们恨不恨凶手.我不敢问。
而我做这个事情，只是希望。还能够从媒体角度,促使公安部门追查嫌疑人,让大家都有
一个清
白的说法.
我和一个关注这个事情的朋友聊天，她说:“旧事重提，肯定会伤害到一些人的感情。
可我认
为，面对承受了人生的残忍和不公的朱令，面对承受了这么大痛苦的朱家父母，作为健
康、自
由、相对幸福生活着的人，如果只是因为怕伤害到自己和周围人的感情或者影响自己和
周围人
的生活而永远选择沉默，使真相在时光中消逝，那么，未免太不公平。因为真相虽然是
痛苦可
能甚至会触目惊心，但真相还是很重要的。因为我一直坚持，社会的正义和良心比个人
平静温
暖的内心舒适似乎更为重要。”
我希望通过自己实实在在的努力为她做些什么。作为《南方周末》的一名职业记者，我
深知，
虽然媒体是本着维护正义，保护弱者的立场进行追踪和关注，但我们并不能干预办案或
是有罪
推论，我们能够做的和最终力图做到的，只是抛开外界纷杂不一的说法，如实记录朱令
的同学
、家人，也就是所有了解她关心她愿意帮帮她的朋友们真实的声音。
我承认，我是一个多事者,
虽然我也曾在清华园度过了九年光阴.实际上我根本不必要关心
社会新闻，我的志向不在这里。但是等我见到朱的父母时,我就知道我必须追问下去,即
便是没
有结果，即便是…因为没有做好而丢失了一个记者应有的职业口碑.我很希望自己能给
朱令的
父母一些实际的帮助，也希望你们不要有太多的顾虑,信任我支持我。谋事在人，成事
在天。
我相信苍天在上,我失败一次，以后还会有人追问的。但我依然相信你们，我的同学们,
我相信
天下人的心是善良的，我也相信,我能够公正地呈现这个当年的事实.
谢谢你们。
所以，我能做的事情，不是追查，没有公安的证据我是不会定罪的，我只想呈现一个事
实，大
家在一种悲愤和沉郁之下，我们能够做的微薄之力,就是,即便是不知情,也要说出不知
情,也要
说出:我们需要知情.
我有看到过很多你的发言.此事我一直在关注着.我们没有高调介入是因为我们还在不想
惊动太
多人。如果你愿意发言...我很愿意.保护你的一切:姓名,住址联络方法.这是一个基本
的职业
道德。请你信任我.
《南方周末》记者
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 19:11:15 -0800 (PST)
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To: r******[email protected], "Hanlin Li" , "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
Dear piglets
I'm pretty bad these days. As you probablly have (or
have not) heard about it, People are discussing about
the rumor (basically cursing me) on hundreds of
websites in China and the rumor is now wide spread all
over my friends & colleagues...
In such a case, it's very difficult for me to keep
silence anymore. So I'm considering clarifying about
it.
I'm now spending all my "leasure" time drafting the
"clarification".
I'd like to send for you to help review it before
publish, hopefully within a week.
Will you have time then?
Subject: Re: Will you have time in the next week?
To: "Yes No"
CC: "Hanlin Li" , "Jin Ya" , "Qi Wang"
From: r******[email protected] View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 11:44:17 +0800
Dear Wei,
I am really shocked by your e-mail because I haven't noticed it in
internet
at all. Really sorry for you. Of course I will leave time for you. If
you
would like to leave Beijing for a while, my home is always open for
you.
And if there is anything I can do for you, just tell me.
Wish you are strong enough and every bad thing is smooth as soon as
possible.
Take care, baby!
Gao
Yes No
.com>
To
r******[email protected], Hanlin
Li
12/19/2005 11:11 , Jin Ya
AM , Qi Wang
cc
Subject
Will you have time in the next
week?
Dear piglets
I'm pretty bad these days. As you probablly have (or
have not) heard about it, People are discussing about
the rumor (basically cursing me) on hundreds of
websites in China and the rumor is now wide spread all
over my friends & colleagues...
In such a case, it's very difficult for me to keep
silence anymore. So I'm considering clarifying about
it.
I'm now spending all my "leasure" time drafting the
"clarification".
I'd like to send for you to help review it before
publish, hopefully within a week.
Will you have time then?
Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2005 20:52:03 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: Will you have time in the next week?
To: r******[email protected], "Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
gffunds.com.cn>, "sun wei"
Yeah, I didn't notice either. People can be really
mean, disgusting and irresponsible when they can speak
anonymously. Niangzi, be strong and take care!
Surely I have time. As Belle said, if anything we can
help, don't hesitate, we support you at any
circumstances.
Jin
--- r******[email protected] wrote:
> Dear Wei,
>
> I am really shocked by your e-mail because I haven't
> noticed it in internet
> at all. Really sorry for you. Of course I will leave
> time for you. If you
> would like to leave Beijing for a while, my home is
> always open for you.
> And if there is anything I can do for you, just tell
> me.
>
> Wish you are strong enough and every bad thing is
> smooth as soon as
> possible.
>
> Take care, baby!
> Gao
>
>
>
>
> Yes No
>
>
>
> .com>
> To
>
> r******[email protected], Hanlin Li
> 12/19/2005 11:11
> , Jin Ya
> AM
> , Qi Wang
>
>
>
> cc
>
>
>
> Subject
> Will you have
> time in the next
> week?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Dear piglets
> I'm pretty bad these days. As you probablly have (or
> have not) heard about it, People are discussing
> about
> the rumor (basically cursing me) on hundreds of
> websites in China and the rumor is now wide spread
> all
> over my friends & colleagues...
>
> In such a case, it's very difficult for me to keep
> silence anymore. So I'm considering clarifying about
> it.
> I'm now spending all my "leasure" time drafting the
> "clarification".
> I'd like to send for you to help review it before
> publish, hopefully within a week.
>
> Will you have time then?
>
> __________________________________________________
> Do You Yahoo!?
> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> protection around
> http://mail.yahoo.com
>
>
>
>
Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2005 01:23:57 -0800 (PST)
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To: "Jin Ya" , r******[email protected], "Hanlin Li" <
h****[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
Thank you all piglets!!
Your mails makes me stronger and I will never be
knocked down! :)
Remember our old saying in dorm that we want to get
famous in public? -- Now I'm achieving it.
It's still not the worst case yet, but I'm prepared...
sooner or later...
Anyway, let's see...
--- Jin Ya wrote:
> Yeah, I didn't notice either. People can be really
> mean, disgusting and irresponsible when they can
> speak
> anonymously. Niangzi, be strong and take care!
>
> Surely I have time. As Belle said, if anything we
> can
> help, don't hesitate, we support you at any
> circumstances.
>
> Jin
>
> --- r******[email protected] wrote:
>
> > Dear Wei,
> >
> > I am really shocked by your e-mail because I
> haven't
> > noticed it in internet
> > at all. Really sorry for you. Of course I will
> leave
> > time for you. If you
> > would like to leave Beijing for a while, my home
> is
> > always open for you.
> > And if there is anything I can do for you, just
> tell
> > me.
> >
> > Wish you are strong enough and every bad thing is
> > smooth as soon as
> > possible.
> >
> > Take care, baby!
> > Gao
> >
> >
> >
>
> >
> > Yes No
>
> >
> >
>
> >
> > .com>
>
> > To
> >
> > r******[email protected], Hanlin Li
> > 12/19/2005 11:11
> > , Jin Ya
> > AM
> > , Qi Wang
> >
> >
> >
>
> > cc
> >
>
> >
> >
>
> > Subject
> > Will you
> have
> > time in the next
> > week?
>
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Dear piglets
> > I'm pretty bad these days. As you probablly have
> (or
> > have not) heard about it, People are discussing
> > about
> > the rumor (basically cursing me) on hundreds of
> > websites in China and the rumor is now wide spread
> > all
> > over my friends & colleagues...
> >
> > In such a case, it's very difficult for me to keep
> > silence anymore. So I'm considering clarifying
> about
> > it.
> > I'm now spending all my "leasure" time drafting
> the
> > "clarification".
> > I'd like to send for you to help review it before
> > publish, hopefully within a week.
> >
> > Will you have time then?
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> __________________________________________________
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> protection around
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>
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2005 08:31:45 -0800 (PST)
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To: r******[email protected], "Hanlin Li" , "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
Dear all
Here is my draft doc. If you have time, pls help to
review it from an outsider point of view, to see if
there are some parts that is not proper
or could cause some misunderstanding etc.
Any comments welcome!
It would be great if you can give the feedback by
Friday night so that I can do the modification before
publish.
Many thanks!
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 02:25:43 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: So Moved!
To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
Dear everyone!
I'm soooooo moved by all of you! Of cause you all are
my BEST friends, lifetime friends (although I removed
the "best" friends statement in the doc that I'm
currently modifying, changed to "good" -- it might
bring negative effect if people want to make story out
of it)!
I can't express with words but I have to admit that
when I read the mail from all of you, I can't control
my tears, even now. What a strange creature human
being is -- when people are beating, hurting,
humiliating you, you are strong and never show sorrow,
but when you friends are comming with warm heart and
words, you, on the contrary, start to cry.
Anyway, no matter what happens, I always repeat to
myself, that I am not the poorest person in world and
I will never be knocked down. There are too many
examples that people sufferied much much more that I
do. So what I'm now experiencing is nothing. For
example, Zhu Ling's family is more poorer, and they
sufferred much much more. Of cause I don't like their
way of doing things but it's also understandable to
some extent.
I'm still making modifications based on some early
comment. If I can finish it by tonight, I will send
you to review again.
Anyway, let's see... Hope it doesn't cause you too
much trouble :(
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Niangzi,
>
> I just saw your email this morning and gave a first
> read of the document. It is a well written document,
> very objective, with lots of facts, which made the
> document credible. I believe anyone who is not
> biased
> would get the right message. I am going to read it
> again, being a devil's advocate this time, and get
> back to you tonight.
>
> As a close friend of yours (I assumed), I feel so
> ashamed when I read your clarification, I had no
> idea
> what you have been through. If I were in your shoes,
> I
> may be collapsed already. I am really proud of you,
> after going through all this, you are still a
> strong,
> optimistic, cheerful girl, still the old Sun Xiaozhu
> we know of. I hope you will only grow stronger and
> happier from now on, as we (your best friends, I am
> speaking for all of the piglets here) will always be
> on your side, support you and fight back with you.
>
> Last but not least, wish you best of luck. I do
> believe after the issuance of your document, the
> public should get a clearer and more truthful
> picture
> of the whole thing, and give you back the oridinary
> life you've been wishing for.
>
> If anything I could be help with, don't hesitate to
> ask.
>
> Hanlin
>
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> > passward is "thetruth"
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:14:53 +0800 (CST)
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com.cn
Dear niangzi,
refer to the attachment.
take care.
Gao
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Date: Fri, 23 Dec 2005 23:14:53 +0800 (CST)
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Dear niangzi,
refer to the attachment.
take care.
Gao
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Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 08:35:22 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: new version for review
To: "belle gao" , h****[email protected], jinyajane@yahoo.
com, [email protected]
Dear all
As said, I'm speechless, so have nothing to say.
Here is the new version after consolidating all your
precious comment, not 100% yet cos I don't have time
:(.
Anyway, if you have time tomorrow, pls have a look.
I properly need your support after I publish this one,
but I don't know exactly how. Let's talk about it a
bit later.
Merry Xmas!
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To: "Yes No" , h****[email protected], j*******[email protected],
[email protected]
Dear Niangzi,
I have looked through the new version. This edition is more clear in stating
reality.
For content, I have no further advices. As I said, even the content is
perfect, maybe there are still some captious persons.
I think we will face more fireworks in internet, you must be strong and
ready to face them. Once you publish it, tell us the link and also as more
as possilbe friends. We also want to support you in situ in internet.
Merry x-mas to you and xxx!
Gao
Yes No 写道：
Dear all
As said, I'm speechless, so have nothing to say.
Here is the new version after consolidating all your
precious comment, not 100% yet cos I don't have time
:(.
Anyway, if you have time tomorrow, pls have a look.
I properly need your support after I publish this one,
but I don't know exactly how. Let's talk about it a
bit later.
Merry Xmas!
__________________________________________
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Date: Sat, 24 Dec 2005 23:40:32 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Re: to open the 2nd version :(
To: "Yes No" , "Fei Gao" , "
Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
娘子，
我看过第二版了，再提出几点意见，还是权作参考。
1。“...朱令也是校社团的积极分子。社团和团委的骨干成员有单独的宿舍楼，不分院
系、年级，既没有熄灯和用电限制也不锁楼门，是大家聚会、活动的中心。朱令经常回
宿舍很晚。她第一次中毒后返校期间仍然每天中午去社团或团委煎药，据她自己说也有
时是别人提前帮她煎好了的。”这一段如果写得再圆滑一点就好了，象加个“举个例子
来说”，“比如说”这样的词句。如果我是不知情的人，很可能会觉得你在暗示这个情
况和中毒有密切关系，如果不是你的本意的话，可能会有一些反面作用。看你的考虑。
2。你爷爷那一段，我觉得挺好的。不过能不能稍微表达一下你爷爷出身贫寒，自己奋
斗成材的意思，反正就是别让人觉得你们家是那种大的“世家”，有很多人罩着的那种。
3。“前不久的ｘｘｘ杀妻案为什么会被判刑？就是因为“死者”家属有怀疑，而且又
找到了一具女尸，看似证据确凿，而ｘｘｘ又拿不出证据证明自己无罪。其实这也是许
多未破案件时一些被怀疑人遇到的共同问题。”看到这一段我是想到了你说的应该是"
Simpson"的案子，但我的印象不深，google以后才了解了详情和最后判决，但其他人会
不会也能立刻想到？不过也许国内新闻曾广泛报道过？另外，我google后的感觉是这个
案子实在太复杂了，所以好多人好像还是对Simpson到底杀妻没有心存疑虑。再让你家
里人帮你参谋参谋，别起到了反作用。
我觉得你写得挺好的，这些意见都是我尽量站在不知情人的角度上吹毛求疵的结果:)。
我和其他小猪的担心一样，写得再好，也会有人故意或不故意地曲解。而且这两天我在
想，如果是朱家刻意地散布这些谣言，可能就是为了把你逼出来，现在也算达到了目的
了,sigh。不过也没法再躲了。但你一定要做好心理准备，要我们帮忙的尽管说，另外
怎么发表，从什么渠道，多少网站开始，还有对可能发生情况的应对（来自朱家，公安
什么的），也要做好准备。虽然我知道你家里人和xxx肯定已经帮你想到了，还是忍不
住多个嘴:P.
好了，正经事说完了，祝各个小猪圣诞快乐，新年好！
--- Yes No wrote:
> sorry, wrong typing, it was "thethruth" to open it
>
> Merry Xmas!
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year.
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>
Date: Sun, 25 Dec 2005 20:44:02 -0800 (PST)
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To: "Jin Ya" , "Fei Gao" , "
Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
Dear Niangzi
Your comment is right!
1. For this point, I thought and thought, read and
read, have the same feeling as you do, so already
deleted from the doc. Although it's true, it will just
make it worse if it's from my mouth :(
2.Good point. And I decided to simplify this part
greatly to avoid people thinking negatively.
3.Simpson?! Niangzi, you have been abroad for toooooo
long! I mean 佘祥林！He was sentensed to death 11
years ago, later changed to Si3 Huan3, cos he was
suspected to have killed his wife. But his wife just
came back home 11 years later!
Have a nice day!
--- Jin Ya wrote:
> 娘子，
>
> 我看过第二版了，再提出几点意见，还是权作参考。
>
>
1。“...朱令也是校社团的积极分子。社团和团委的骨干成员有单独的宿舍楼，不分院
系、年级，既没有熄灯和用电限制也不锁楼门，是大家聚会、活动的中心。朱令经常回
宿舍很晚。她第一次中毒后返校期间仍然每天中午去社团或团委煎药，据她自己说也有
时是别人提前帮她煎好了的。”这一段如果写得再圆滑一点就好了，象加个“举个例子
来说”，“比如说”这样的词句。如果我是不知情的人，很可能会觉得你在暗示这个情
况和中毒有密切关系，如果不是你的本意的话，可能会有一些反面作用。看你的考虑。
>
>
2。你爷爷那一段，我觉得挺好的。不过能不能稍微表达一下你爷爷出身贫寒，自己奋
斗成材的意思，反正就是别让人觉得你们家是那种大的“世家”，有很多人罩着的那种。
>
>
3。“前不久的ｘｘｘ杀妻案为什么会被判刑？就是因为“死者”家属有怀疑，而且又
找到了一具女尸，看似证据确凿，而ｘｘｘ又拿不出证据证明自己无罪。其实这也是许
多未破案件时一些被怀疑人遇到的共同问题。”看到这一段我是想到了你说的应该是"
Simpson"的案子，但我的印象不深，google以后才了解了详情和最后判决，但其他人会
不会也能立刻想到？不过也许国内新闻曾广泛报道过？另外，我google后的感觉是这个
案子实在太复杂了，所以好多人好像还是对Simpson到底杀妻没有心存疑虑。再让你家
里人帮你参谋参谋，别起到了反作用。
>
>
我觉得你写得挺好的，这些意见都是我尽量站在不知情人的角度上吹毛求疵的结果:)。
我和其他小猪的担心一样，写得再好，也会有人故意或不故意地曲解。而且这两天我在
想，如果是朱家刻意地散布这些谣言，可能就是为了把你逼出来，现在也算达到了目的
了,sigh。不过也没法再躲了。但你一定要做好心理准备，要我们帮忙的尽管说，另外
怎么发表，从什么渠道，多少网站开始，还有对可能发生情况的应对（来自朱家，公安
什么的），也要做好准备。虽然我知道你家里人和xxx肯定已经帮你想到了，还是忍不
住多个嘴:P.
>
> 好了，正经事说完了，祝各个小猪圣诞快乐，新年好！
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> > sorry, wrong typing, it was "thethruth" to open it
> >
> > Merry Xmas!
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________
> > Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year.
> > http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
> >
>
>
>
>
>
> __________________________________
> Yahoo! for Good - Make a difference this year.
> http://brand.yahoo.com/cybergivingweek2005/
>
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 08:56:15 -0800 (PST)
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To: "Hanlin Li" , "belle gao" ,
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the same password as usual.
happy new year!
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Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2005 20:09:50 +0800
Here you go.
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this is what I was working on when Hanlin called.
I will reply to Bei's statement first.
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sorry, my network is so slow....
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Extracted points.
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Date: Mon, 02 Jan 2006 11:32:48 +0800
Help to check and look if anything I need missed.
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my comment for your reference.
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I added some "meat" :)
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I added some "meat" :)
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Subject: Re: I am back to reality
To: "Hanlin Li"
CC: "Jin Ya" , "Yes No" , "Qi
Wang"
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Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 11:25:03 +0800
So early?
I heard qizi said you will go back on Jan. 16th so, I am thinking of
calling you this weekend. Sigh! Am I mis-understand?
Recently, my colleagues asked me serveral times about Zhuling. It looks
the
influence of article "Tian Du" is far enough. I didn't tell them I am
her
classmate. As the looker-on, they are only curious, I think. And I
don't
want to make more curiosity. :(
Gao
Hanlin Li
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Jin
01/12/2006 05:58 Ya , Fei
Gao
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Wang
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Subject
I am back to reality
Dear piglets,
I am back to US now, again, I am having post-vacation
trauma. No matter how long I stayed at home, it always
seems too short.
Qizi, I really miss you. I had so much fun hanging out
with you guys. Thank you for the gift, it was really
nice of you. And tell P4 I missed him too. hahaha...
:-)
Sun Xiaozhu, I am really sorry that I didn't really
keep up with the progress on internet after I got to
Shanghai. I felt really guilty for having fun while
you were suffering. So what's new now? any
instructions for what's next? Is your life easier
after the post?
Are you gals still MSN everyday?
Hanlin
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 21:16:55 -0800 (PST)
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To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya" <
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Girls
I don't know how to express my feeling except by
repeating that I'm so moved -- I know I'm not good at
expression feelings :-P although I'm good at being
ironic :-P
Anyway, this is the most memorable "re-union" I had!
Hanlin, never feel bad that you enjoyed your life in
SH -- we all know it even if you don't say a word :-D
-- you are still the same you :-P
And I'm still the same me -- I will also enjoy my life
-- The more they want to torture me, I more I will
live better and enjoy more about life!
An update to you all about current situation:
Zhu's Mom has started raising this issue to new papers
and magazines, and Sina and Sohu reported on the 1st
page.
I'm pretty sure that she will start to target TV soon.
BTW, yesterday the journalist is already calling my
parents home (they get the number from Zhu's family)
and asked to interview me. My dad rejected, but maybe
they will quote my dad's word saying that he rejected
to be interviewed etc. Who knows.
Now, seriously, I do need your help! Cos I'm prepared
either to be exposed by media, or sue them.
And I do need your support to clarify something.
1. Zhu's mom told the journalist that I envy her
daughter and 挑拨朱和另一个舍友的关系, don't know who
though.
So I need the official confirmation from wang qi and
jin ya that I never 挑拨你们和朱的关系。of cause she
can still insist that her daughter said so, but it
will be quite weak, cos if sb want to 挑拨, it should
be from both sides.
2. Zhu's mom told skyoneline (in page 20 of my
statement) that 我造谣说朱社交广泛 while in fact she
was not.
I need also the official confirmation from you all,
and from your own respect, saying that zhu does have
broad social activities, and often doesn't particiapte
class activities.
belle and Hanlin can also, if you still remember,
confirm that zhu is always back to dorm very late,
i.e., when we had fun in our dorm after 晚自习, she is
normally not there.
if you still remember that she sometimes don't even
come back,can say it, but if you don't remember, just
don't say.
Wangqi and Ya, for you two piglets, I need the confirm
from your side that she was always back very late, up
to 12, and sometimes not coming back at all.
I know it's very bad to say it, and that's why in the
past we never tell something like this. but now her
mother is pushing for this and I simply have no choice
at all :-(
Could you?
3. Her mom also said to skyoneline that the "coffee
cup" Bei described was true!
So, need you 2 to confirm again :(
I'm very sorry that all these statements have to be
with your real name.
And I do understand the concern... --- if her family
is this mad, they may hate you all as well if you said
sth for me and again them.
So, absolutely fine if you have the concern. and
absolutely if you can't do it :-)
Anyway, all the best wishes to of the piglets, and
piglets' hbs & bf ：）
Wei
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Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2006 15:09:06 +0800
Dear niangzi,
And I also notice there is a person who said he/she is your
neighborhood
and write out your parents' address.
Busy day. Write to you later.
Gao
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Subject
update
Girls
I don't know how to express my feeling except by
repeating that I'm so moved -- I know I'm not good at
expression feelings :-P although I'm good at being
ironic :-P
Anyway, this is the most memorable "re-union" I had!
Hanlin, never feel bad that you enjoyed your life in
SH -- we all know it even if you don't say a word :-D
-- you are still the same you :-P
And I'm still the same me -- I will also enjoy my life
-- The more they want to torture me, I more I will
live better and enjoy more about life!
An update to you all about current situation:
Zhu's Mom has started raising this issue to new papers
and magazines, and Sina and Sohu reported on the 1st
page.
I'm pretty sure that she will start to target TV soon.
BTW, yesterday the journalist is already calling my
parents home (they get the number from Zhu's family)
and asked to interview me. My dad rejected, but maybe
they will quote my dad's word saying that he rejected
to be interviewed etc. Who knows.
Now, seriously, I do need your help! Cos I'm prepared
either to be exposed by media, or sue them.
And I do need your support to clarify something.
1. Zhu's mom told the journalist that I envy her
daughter and 挑拨朱和另一个舍友的关系, don't know who
though.
So I need the official confirmation from wang qi and
jin ya that I never 挑拨你们和朱的关系。of cause she
can still insist that her daughter said so, but it
will be quite weak, cos if sb want to 挑拨, it should
be from both sides.
2. Zhu's mom told skyoneline (in page 20 of my
statement) that 我造谣说朱社交广泛 while in fact she
was not.
I need also the official confirmation from you all,
and from your own respect, saying that zhu does have
broad social activities, and often doesn't particiapte
class activities.
belle and Hanlin can also, if you still remember,
confirm that zhu is always back to dorm very late,
i.e., when we had fun in our dorm after 晚自习, she is
normally not there.
if you still remember that she sometimes don't even
come back,can say it, but if you don't remember, just
don't say.
Wangqi and Ya, for you two piglets, I need the confirm
from your side that she was always back very late, up
to 12, and sometimes not coming back at all.
I know it's very bad to say it, and that's why in the
past we never tell something like this. but now her
mother is pushing for this and I simply have no choice
at all :-(
Could you?
3. Her mom also said to skyoneline that the "coffee
cup" Bei described was true!
So, need you 2 to confirm again :(
I'm very sorry that all these statements have to be
with your real name.
And I do understand the concern... --- if her family
is this mad, they may hate you all as well if you said
sth for me and again them.
So, absolutely fine if you have the concern. and
absolutely if you can't do it :-)
Anyway, all the best wishes to of the piglets, and
piglets' hbs & bf ：）
Wei
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Sorry, niangzi, I will speak in a frank way here, hope
you don't mind: As I told xxx yesterday, I am
willing to help, for sure. My concern is that you
will speak to media first? I am somewhat afraid it
will finally develop to a mouth fighting (da3 zui3
zhang4), like on Tianya. If to Gong-an, I have no
problem to give my statement; but to media, I suggest
you have a more thorough consideration, it may finally
be a bigger and wider mess and be no real help for
solving the problem. Of course, niangzi, if finally
no way but only fighting through media, I will stand
out to clarify those point.
Best regards,
Jin
PS: Hanlin's dream is also my dream~~~a very
handsome..., but it is just a dream, have to admit :P.
Hanlin, I guess you bought many good stuff in
Shanghai? How about the foods there?
--- Yes No wrote:
> Girls
> I don't know how to express my feeling except by
> repeating that I'm so moved -- I know I'm not good
> at
> expression feelings :-P although I'm good at being
> ironic :-P
> Anyway, this is the most memorable "re-union" I had!
>
> Hanlin, never feel bad that you enjoyed your life in
> SH -- we all know it even if you don't say a word
> :-D
> -- you are still the same you :-P
> And I'm still the same me -- I will also enjoy my
> life
> -- The more they want to torture me, I more I will
> live better and enjoy more about life!
>
> An update to you all about current situation:
> Zhu's Mom has started raising this issue to new
> papers
> and magazines, and Sina and Sohu reported on the 1st
> page.
> I'm pretty sure that she will start to target TV
> soon.
> BTW, yesterday the journalist is already calling my
> parents home (they get the number from Zhu's family)
> and asked to interview me. My dad rejected, but
> maybe
> they will quote my dad's word saying that he
> rejected
> to be interviewed etc. Who knows.
>
> Now, seriously, I do need your help! Cos I'm
> prepared
> either to be exposed by media, or sue them.
> And I do need your support to clarify something.
>
> 1. Zhu's mom told the journalist that I envy her
> daughter and 挑拨謥E土桓錾嵊训墓叵? don't know
> who
> though.
> So I need the official confirmation from wang qi and
> jin ya that I never 挑拨你们和謥E墓叵怠f cause she
> can still insist that her daughter said so, but it
> will be quite weak, cos if sb want to 挑拨, it
> should
> be from both sides.
>
> 2. Zhu's mom told skyoneline (in page 20 of my
> statement) that 我詠Eニ抵丒缃还惴?while in fact she
> was not.
> I need also the official confirmation from you all,
> and from your own respect, saying that zhu does have
> broad social activities, and often doesn't
> particiapte
> class activities.
> belle and Hanlin can also, if you still remember,
> confirm that zhu is always back to dorm very late,
> i.e., when we had fun in our dorm after 旺笤习, she
> is
> normally not there.
> if you still remember that she sometimes don't even
> come back,can say it, but if you don't remember,
> just
> don't say.
>
> Wangqi and Ya, for you two piglets, I need the
> confirm
> from your side that she was always back very late,
> up
> to 12, and sometimes not coming back at all.
>
> I know it's very bad to say it, and that's why in
> the
> past we never tell something like this. but now her
> mother is pushing for this and I simply have no
> choice
> at all :-(
>
> Could you?
>
> 3. Her mom also said to skyoneline that the "coffee
> cup" Bei described was true!
> So, need you 2 to confirm again :(
>
>
> I'm very sorry that all these statements have to be
> with your real name.
> And I do understand the concern... --- if her family
> is this mad, they may hate you all as well if you
> said
> sth for me and again them.
>
> So, absolutely fine if you have the concern. and
> absolutely if you can't do it :-)
>
> Anyway, all the best wishes to of the piglets, and
> piglets' hbs & bf ：）
>
> Wei
>
>
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Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 22:21:54 -0800 (PST)
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To: "Jin Ya" , "Fei Gao" , "
Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
Girls,
I finally find out that now there is no sense to spend
further time on internet cos there are sooooooo many
virius people there. Our words are already out, normal
people will take it, and that’s what we expect. For
the mad dogs, just let them bark.
My family will follow the internet. If they find out
really some critical things and need your help, I will
let you know, either wise, no need to pay attention on
it.
One thing I really need your help urgently is the Tl
papers. As I’m busy with the letters to police, not
much time. So could you pls help with the papers. ：（
你们有空帮着看看文献并翻译吗？
不用全翻！我们感兴趣的只是：有没有可能是一次中毒。
估计很少有2次中毒的case，所以如果是一次中毒的文章，只需要看一下中毒后如果没
有及时（2-3个月）治疗的症状，如果提前治疗了的文章就可以仍一边根本不用看了。
如果看到2-3个月没有治疗的case，不论是否支持我们希望的结论，都请把相关时间—
症状部分翻译一下，并翻译一下患者的年龄、性别、体质/身体状况等。
金亚帮着查了一堆文献，xxx分发一下，能分头处理一下吗？俺俩忙晕了，还有好多文
章要写：（
many thanks!
Date: Sat, 14 Jan 2006 23:19:29 -0800 (PST)
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Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
刚在天涯上看见“李含琳”发的帖子"请大家放过薛刚，谢谢！"
It says:
“这个世界上不会有无缘无故的爱，也不会有无缘无故的恨。他说过什么，做过什么，
一定都是有原因的；但是有一点，他不是坏人，我也不是，我们都没有坏心，请大家放
过他，放过我们一家。
11年过去了，该消失的早已消失，网络上再声势浩大，也不过是虚拟的东西，为什么还
要紧紧咬住不放呢？如果真的有人下毒，这些年来她必定也不好过，为什么一定要掀什
么来呢？
我不知道继续下去会有什么结果。我只想安安静静地做一个普通的人。请大家放过我们
吧，谢谢！”
He/she first pretent to look like real hanlin, and the
next step, I guess, is to say something really bad.
here it already started to imply that if I am the
murderer, i must have already suffered these years, so
let me go. And in the future, all "your" words or
words from classmates could be interpretated as they
are helping me to escape from the punishment even if i
am the murderer, cos I have already suffered a lot. SO
MEAN!!!
So it's quite clear that there is no sense to spend
further time on internet cos there are sooooooo many
virius people there. Our words are already out, normal
people will take it, and that’s what we expect. For
the mad dogs, just let them bark.
My family will follow the internet. If they find out
really some critical things and need your help, I will
let you know, either wise, no need to pay attention on
it.
Keep carm, keep cool!
I actually feel very sorry that it bring you all
"famous" :( -- although in the past, i'm always very
causious, and prepared that there are some people who
are very bad, but it's just always beyond my
imagaination how virus could people be ：（
ｓｉｇｈ ：（
Girls！Take care of yourselves!!!
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 00:36:24 -0800 (PST)
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Subject: Hanlin couple, need your help
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hanlin & Gang
Sorry that I need the help from you urgently for some
paper searching and translation :(
The purpose is to find out if Zhu ling’s case might
be just poisioned one, just like 熊猫累累& 感而后动
mentioned.
Jinya was searching a lot of papers, maybe you can
search as well from US? Might be different result?
What I need is the cases in which the patient was NOT
treated in time, better not treated after 1 or 2 or
even 3 months,so that we can have a look if the
symptoms are similar to Zhu Ling’s case.
So just need to very quickly filter the search result
and can simple throw the paper away if the patient was
treated in time.
If you find out the “suitable” case, pls help to
translate ONLY how the symptoms developed over time,
NO ＮＥＥD to translate how to treat it etc. Pls also
include the patients age, sex, general health
situation if any, and also the source of this paper.
Jin Ya will send you the paper she has already found
out that fulfill above “requirement” so that you
don’t need to translate again if you find the same
docs.
Can you help with it during these 2 days? Sorry for
the rush ? -- we very much need it for the doc
to police.
Many thanks in advance!
TAKE CARE!
Date: Sun, 15 Jan 2006 04:42:34 -0800 (PST)
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1. I searched on PubMed with keywords "thallium" and
"poisoning".
2. In the about 600 papers, I got 3 papers that may be
useful (with full text). My filtering condition is:
once poisoning; acute or subacute; after exposure to
Tl, no appropriate treatment for more than 1 month. I
will translate the corresponding parts in these three
papers.
3. Since I have no full-text access to some journals,
for many papers I could only get their abstracts. I
had a look at all the abstracts of papers published
after July 1992, and I include in the attachment those
that maybe useful (need checking full-text to know),
so that if you can access to their full-text files,
have a look.
4. To extract the compressed file, save all the four
files in the same folder and click the *.part1.ext
file. (i am so "luo1 suo1", :P)
5. Naturally everyone has his/her favorite searching
strategy for papers, so I do expect hanlin or P2 will
find some useful papers other than what I got, that'll
be very cool :)
Girls, take care!
attach15_by_jinya.rar
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Hanlin,
I just found today on Sina, in Wu Hong fei's blog, she
reported Zhu's case, and in the reply, i find somebody
pretending to be Xue Gang as well.
回复 网易网友(222.32.112.*):
清华物化2班的的朱令的同学们，你们真的就都是些自私自利见利忘义的小人？就没有
一个
象贝志成那样敢于说话吗？这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清
华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是
清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！！！！！清华的同学门，你们还有良心
吗，不做噩梦吗？？？？
我是物化2班的团支书，我真的不忍心看到有关朱朱的所有东西，这些年来我一直生活
在自责于内疚之中，我不知道我该怎么做，其实这件事要真的查出真相一点都不难，国
务院督办！我能说的就是当年朱朱第二次中毒孙维被传的时候，院领导和系部召开了一
次很秘密的会议，我是唯一一个参加会议的在校学生，也许他们知道通知我开会是个很
大的错误，当中讲了一会儿的时候系主任叫我回去了，但我在我所在场的18分钟内，我
已经知道内容大概了，我的任务是事件保密和按护全班同学，不准单独核查和不准猜测
议论，在会议中提到是孙主席指示的，而且有关方面在为维维准备出国手续，后来我知
道是孙浮林。
到这里大家心理也很清楚，这件事如果中央不出面的话，在中国目前这个体制里，朱朱
事件只有沉冤！！！光凭一个贝志诚是不够的。
这些年我没有站出来，我有我的苦衷，包括我们2班所有同学。我们经常会收到拿我们
自己性命和家人性命以及工作等等相关的威胁！株连九族大家或许只在电视上见过，可
这些随时可以发生在我们2班同学身上。
我希望中央能真的重视这个案件，还朱朱一个公道。就是高院和高检都没办法的，只有
中央！！！
So you couple are both used :-P
Kidding, I think now the situation is really very bad.
People are much worse than I thought. But in stead of
getting angry, like couple of weeks ago, I feel
amused, strange hum? These people are too dirty for me
to be angry with them :)
So girls, i think we don't need further clarify things
on internet, unless something really important pop-up
-- I doubt though. Anyway, my family is monitering.
So let's live our normal life.
If for something I need help, i will shout :-)
So basically, the help I needed from you all:
1. Paper related: Ya and Hanlin couple -- "tasks"
already sent in another mail :-P
2. the supporting letter I previously sent out -- less
urgent than above paper, so take your time :-)
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To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
Dear Hanlin
Shocked to hear it!! These days I repeated again and
again, telling myself, and xxx, and jinya, that I now
really really understand why Chinese had Cultural
Revolution!
I don't even have your home number! I just got Gang's
mobile from Panfeng last night, try to talk to you but
didn't get connected.
Hanlin,
I'm very very sorry and sad to get you involved in
this dirty thing, especially that you all did it just
to support me :(
I don't know what to say... I'm really very very
sorry!
Things here is also very bad. Somebody claim living in
the same building as my parents posted their address
and call for people to post sth like da4 zi4 bao4 in &
around the building,and also to all the nagbours'
mailbox etc. I can't go home now. And have to get
prepared to "escape" from my own home as soon as
digged out.
Here in China there is no law or human right, and the
police will do nothing about it, but in US should be
different. Would you consult your lawyer how to handle
it? Or can you report to police ahead to prevent
something bad?
BTW, be careful of to all your acquaintance, if bad
guys trying to find out your personal info, it's very
likely from them, and we don't know whether they leak
it out accidentally or on purpose.
TAKE CARE TAKE CARE!!!
As said, I can't go to my parents home now, so contact
my own home before I have to move. 8295-3037, or xxx's
mobile at 13501024175. I'm at work and not convenient
to talk :(.
FYI I only made 2 posts, the 1st one you all know, 2nd
is called "Sun Wei de Zai sheng Ming", mainly 3
points: 1. appologize for the "evedropper", we made a
mistake, it IS a music cup :( 2.I've already submitted
to police and official application, ask them to
re-investigate the case. 3. new rumors, I won't
explain anymore.
I will ask xxx to forward you the whole statement.
For other so called statement, like I already hired
laywer etc,are all bullshit. I haven't posted anything
like those.
BTW, pls also send me your home number so that we can
talk in emergency.
Also, girls, if you have time, download the skypie
which xxx recommend, cos it's encrypted, and can also
do conference talk.
Talk to you all later!
TAKE CARE EVERYBODY!
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Sorry I haven't checked my home emails for days. I
> was
> back to the hectic life at work, had to work
> overtime
> on Friday. Well, the vacation is over, indeed.
>
> Anyway, Gang and I will do some more literature
> search, and hopefully come up with something useful.
>
> Just now, Gang is talking with someone we don't know
> on the phone. looks like the situation is really bad
> now, they dig out everything about us, they know our
> home phone number, address, where we work, even know
> we came back to US on Jan. 9 (Belle doesn't even
> know
> that!). what worries me now is that wangqi and jinya
> won't be hidden for long. Anyway, we all need to be
> prepared for the worst.
>
> Sun xiaozhu, did you post another statement on the
> internet around Jan. 8? are you solicting the
> engagement of police system? I need to know what
> your
> position is. Could you forward that statement to me
> and Gang?
>
> Talk to you later. I may need to give you a call
> some
> time. should I still use your parents' number?
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> > Hanlin,
> > I just found today on Sina, in Wu Hong fei's blog,
> > she
> > reported Zhu's case, and in the reply, i find
> > somebody
> > pretending to be Xue Gang as well.
> >
> > 回复 网易网友(222.32.112.*):
> >
>
清华物化2班的的朱令的同学们，你们真的就都是些自私自利见利忘义的小人？就没有
一个
> >
>
象贝志成那样敢于说话吗？这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清
> >
>
华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是
> >
>
清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！这是清华的悲哀！！！！！清华的同学门，你们还有良心
> > 吗，不做噩梦吗？？？？
> >
> >
>
我是物化2班的团支书，我真的不忍心看到有关朱朱的所有东西，这些年来我一直生活
在自责于内疚之中，我不知道我该怎么做，其实这件事要真的查出真相一点都不难，国
务院督办！我能说的就是当年朱朱第二次中毒孙维被传的时候，院领导和系部召开了一
次很秘密的会议，我是唯一一个参加会议的在校学生，也许他们知道通知我开会是个很
大的错误，当中讲了一会儿的时候系主任叫我回去了，但我在我所在场的18分钟内，我
已经知道内容大概了，我的任务是事件保密和按护全班同学，不准单独核查和不准猜测
议论，在会议中提到是孙主席指示的，而且有关方面在为维维准备出国手续，后来我知
道是孙浮林。
> >
> >
> >
>
到这里大家心理也很清楚，这件事如果中央不出面的话，在中国目前这个体制里，朱朱
事件只有沉冤！！！光凭一个贝志诚是不够的。
> >
> >
>
这些年我没有站出来，我有我的苦衷，包括我们2班所有同学。我们经常会收到拿我们
自己性命和家人性命以及工作等等相关的威胁！株连九族大家或许只在电视上见过，可
这些随时可以发生在我们2班同学身上。
> >
> >
>
我希望中央能真的重视这个案件，还朱朱一个公道。就是高院和高检都没办法的，只有
中央！！！
> >
> >
> > So you couple are both used :-P
> >
> > Kidding, I think now the situation is really very
> > bad.
> > People are much worse than I thought. But in stead
> > of
> > getting angry, like couple of weeks ago, I feel
> > amused, strange hum? These people are too dirty
> for
> > me
> > to be angry with them :)
> >
> > So girls, i think we don't need further clarify
> > things
> > on internet, unless something really important
> > pop-up
> > -- I doubt though. Anyway, my family is
> monitering.
> > So let's live our normal life.
> > If for something I need help, i will shout :-)
> >
> > So basically, the help I needed from you all:
> > 1. Paper related: Ya and Hanlin couple -- "tasks"
> > already sent in another mail :-P
> >
> > 2. the supporting letter I previously sent out --
> > less
> > urgent than above paper, so take your time :-)
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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To: "Fei Gao" , "Hanlin Li" , "Qi
Wang" , s********[email protected]
You know what? This morning my professor, in
surprise, showed me an anonymous email saying I am a
suspect of a poisoning case and asking for my contact
address. (email address is a newly registered "zhu
guan" and the g******[email protected], guess should be 朱关
and 关心朱令).
I guess this should be from a person who know I am the
roommate. The good point is they don't know I am
still in the same lab (since the lab's homepage
doesn't include my name), or they may be more crazy to
do something. My professor of course thinks it's
ridiculous and trusts me, dont worry.
Things are getting so messy, I also read a guy
pretending to be qizi, while giving the Ph.D thesis
title of that male wangqi's to prove he/she is real
wangqi. Faint to death.
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> Don't feel bad, I was digged out mainly because of
> Gang, as the wife of Zhi1 Shu1. And like you said,
> it
> made me feel much safer than you guys because I am
> in
> US, they can't do much about me. If there were
> anything outrageous happened, I could seek law
> enforcement. Looks like now they think WQ and I live
> in the same room with you, so yazi may be safe for a
> while. It was our careless mistake that we didn't
> change our phone number after we move to the current
> address. We thought it would be easier for the
> people
> we knew to keep in touch with us. Well, guess what!
> Anyway, I have a caller id at home, so I can filter
> calls and won't take unrecognized calls.
>
> FYI, here is my contact information:
>
> Home phone: (860) 437-7804
> Cell: (860) 235-0671
> Gang's cell: (860) 912-5392
>
> During my working hours (your night time), you may
> want to send emails to my pfizer email:
> h*******[email protected], so I can get it instantly. I
> don't check my personal email that often at work.
>
> TAKE CARE,
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
CC: f*******[email protected]
Hanlin
So so so sorry to make you all famous! :-( Be really
careful, those people can do anything. Digging out the
info is 1st step, next they may do things more mean.
Like Jinya's boss got the anonymos letter saying she
was the suspect! You & Gang need to be very careful,
especially you, as somebody think you were the
roommate. Maybe you want to inform your boss ahead?
If he/she knows about cultural revolution, it's easier
for them to understand, like Ya's boss. Anyway, you
decide yourself, but just get prepared...
Don't be chou4 mei3 about the comment of being "Liang4
li4" :-P
They won't stop doing mean things simply because you
are "Liang4 Li4".
BTW, maybe you want to share with us your "liang li"
picture in high-school? I haven't seen it before :-)
I also remembered I saw somewhere people found out the
amount of Gang's denate to ZhuLing and people are
spreading virus words, saying it's too little etc. I
was sooo furious! How ugly people are!! Recently I'm
always surprised about this topic :(
Back to your question, according to media, it's
lethal, I mean dose in ZL's blood.
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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To: "Hanlin Li" , "Fei Gao" , "
Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang" , "sun wei" <
s********[email protected]>
Oh, yes? Somebody digged out my photo from my lab's
homepage? I am sure it was removed last year after
the previous scholarship ended. So somebody saved the
old page even that early? I am somewhat shocked. En,
anyway, though I am sure they won't saying me "liang4
li4", don't say me "man3 lian3 heng2 rou4" like poor
sun niangzi, :)).
About the format of list of my hit references, the
format I saved can't be open in ur office? If you
mean the 200 papers' (the first 10 pages of my
searching hits) info., I am attaching it here the txt
format file, though many of them are not very useful.
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
attach16_by_jinya_list in txt.txt
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To: "Hanlin Li" , "Fei Gao" , "
Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang" , "sun wei" <
s********[email protected]>
hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really "capable"
of digging out others' privacy. I found they deduced
me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable, :)
http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635 (except my
publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when u
read.
by the way, I saw:
『天涯杂谈』 暂停“朱令铊中毒事件”讨论的通知
作者：webmaster 提交日期：2006-1-19 12:06:00
为有利于事件的顺利解决，有关“朱令铊中毒事件”话题暂停讨论，敬请各位网友
配合。
特此通知
2006-1-19
--------------------------------
So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really hope
so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
something.
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
Subject: Re: BTW, pls include xxx for this discussion
To: "Jin Ya"
CC: "Hanlin Li" , "Hanlin Li" , "sun
wei" , "Qi Wang"
From: r******[email protected] View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 13:39:51 +0800
Dear meizi,
I have not noticed what you wrote in the following e-mail. I just
noticed
tianya has banned this topic. It made me happy because some id is
really
mean and the discussion is absolutely bullshit and nonsense.
These days I am a little busy so not to talk with you by msn, sorry for
it.
Also sorry for niangzi that I didn't help in looking through the
documents.
:(
Talk to you later.
TAKE CARE, PIGLETS!
Gao
Jin Ya
com>
To
Hanlin Li ,
Fei
01/20/2006 11:55 Gao ,
AM Hanlin Li , Qi
Wang , sun
wei
cc
Subject
Re: BTW, pls include xxx for
this
discussion
hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really "capable"
of digging out others' privacy. I found they deduced
me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable, :)
http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635 (except my
publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when u
read.
by the way, I saw:
『天涯杂谈』 暂停“朱令铊中毒事件”讨论的通知
作者：webmaster 提交日期：2006-1-19 12:06:00
为有利于事件的顺利解决，有关“朱令铊中毒事件”话
题暂停讨论，敬请各位网友配合。
特此通知
2006-1-19
--------------------------------
So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really hope
so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
something.
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Sun Xiaozhu,
>
> I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> from
> Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> references
> don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> couple of papers of interest through our
> inter-library
> loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> striking information was obtained. The patients
> cited
> in most papers were administrated and treated in
> hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose in
> Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
>
> Yazi,
>
> The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> can
> only open them at home (which doesn't help much). I
> need to have the list of your hit references (was it
> 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> work
> and do searches.
>
> Now my name is all over the place on internet, I am
> the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> search and find my current home address, my pictures
> from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer title,
> and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the bright
> side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4 girl,
> as
> I was told someone has already digged out your
> picture
> from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> even
> know where it is. :-)
>
> I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is now
> banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep me
> posted for anything new.
>
> Take care, all piglets.
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> >
> >
> >
> > __________________________________________________
> > Do You Yahoo!?
> > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > protection around
> > http://mail.yahoo.com
> >
>
>
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@gffunds.com.cn>
It's a surprise to see Jin Niangzi have actually
published so many papers!! :-) Surprise surprise, I
thought she only spend the time playing around in
Tsinghua :-D
BTW, Niangzi, your picture from lab is quite good
looking :-) Absolutely not "man3 lian3 heng2 rou4"
like me :"(
Yesterday I still saw a lot of posts on Tianya, and
people are again posting my previous work and my
parents home etc. To be frank I don't know why Tianya
suddenly stopped. I don't think it's police, cos in
Sina and many other sites it's still very hot. Why
they only stop Tianya then? If, IF, it's really Gong
An, want to carm down this thing, they again proved
themselves to be stupid, only find Tianya and ignored
other sites? As stupid as before when they are
investigating Zhu Ling's case!
Anyway, TAKE CARE all!
Wei
--- Jin Ya wrote:
> hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really "capable"
> of digging out others' privacy. I found they
> deduced
> me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable, :)
> http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635 (except
> my
> publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
> wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when u
> read.
>
> by the way, I saw:
>
> 『天涯杂谈』 暂停“朱令铊中毒事件”讨论的通知
>
>
> 作者：webmaster 提交日期：2006-1-19 12:06:00
>
>
为有利于事件的顺利解决，有关“朱令铊中毒事件”话题暂停讨论，敬请各位网友
配合。
>
>
>
> 特此通知
> 2006-1-19
> --------------------------------
>
> So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really
> hope
> so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
> something.
>
> --- Hanlin Li wrote:
>
> > Sun Xiaozhu,
> >
> > I've searched a different database (OVID/MEDLINE)
> > from
> > Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> > references
> > don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> > couple of papers of interest through our
> > inter-library
> > loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> > striking information was obtained. The patients
> > cited
> > in most papers were administrated and treated in
> > hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored for
> > long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose
> in
> > Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure out
> > again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
> >
> > Yazi,
> >
> > The attachements you sent in your earlier email, I
> > can
> > only open them at home (which doesn't help much).
> I
> > need to have the list of your hit references (was
> it
> > 300?) in some other format, so I can open them at
> > work
> > and do searches.
> >
> > Now my name is all over the place on internet, I
> am
> > the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> > shocked at their "capability", they did a reverse
> > search and find my current home address, my
> pictures
> > from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer
> title,
> > and even attached a satillite map of my house from
> > google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the
> bright
> > side of it, as I found somebody referred me as the
> > "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah? So,
> > Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4
> girl,
> > as
> > I was told someone has already digged out your
> > picture
> > from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> > even
> > know where it is. :-)
> >
> > I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is
> now
> > banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway, keep
> me
> > posted for anything new.
> >
> > Take care, all piglets.
> >
> > Hanlin
> >
> > --- Yes No wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> __________________________________________________
> > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > > protection around
> > > http://mail.yahoo.com
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
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>
Date: Fri, 20 Jan 2006 00:18:49 -0800 (PST)
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To: r******[email protected], "Hanlin Li" , "Qi Wang"
gffunds.com.cn>, "sun wei"
The topic is still hot in sina and other websites ?
fuuuuuuuuu, disappointed. I thought a big action will
be made by our police uncles, :(, seems they are
really nuts.
Thanks for comforting~~~, belle and niangzi, but
really, ignore those stupid publications, every
chinese papers I wrote was rubbish, :P (wang xiaozhu
will understand immediately :)) )
You take care, too! Have a good weekend!
--- r******[email protected] wrote:
> I have looked through that article just now and
> agree with Sun xiaozhu.
> Hehe, the picture looks nice.
>
> Actually, the information they digged out let me
> know you are so excellent!
> Cheers! :)
>
> TAKE CARE, ALL!
>
> Gao
>
>
>
>
>
> Yes No
>
>
>
> .com>
> To
> Jin Ya
> ,
> 01/20/2006 02:20 Hanlin Li
> , Fei
> PM Gao
> ,
> Hanlin Li
> , Qi
> Wang
>
>
> cc
>
>
>
> Subject
> Re: BTW, pls
> include xxx for this
> discussion
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> It's a surprise to see Jin Niangzi have actually
> published so many papers!! :-) Surprise surprise, I
> thought she only spend the time playing around in
> Tsinghua :-D
>
> BTW, Niangzi, your picture from lab is quite good
> looking :-) Absolutely not "man3 lian3 heng2 rou4"
> like me :"(
>
> Yesterday I still saw a lot of posts on Tianya, and
> people are again posting my previous work and my
> parents home etc. To be frank I don't know why
> Tianya
> suddenly stopped. I don't think it's police, cos in
> Sina and many other sites it's still very hot. Why
> they only stop Tianya then? If, IF, it's really Gong
> An, want to carm down this thing, they again proved
> themselves to be stupid, only find Tianya and
> ignored
> other sites? As stupid as before when they are
> investigating Zhu Ling's case!
>
> Anyway, TAKE CARE all!
>
> Wei
>
> --- Jin Ya wrote:
>
> > hehehe, agree with Hanlin, they are really
> "capable"
> > of digging out others' privacy. I found they
> > deduced
> > me to be "tai yang zheng nuan", quite reasonable,
> :)
> > http://www.is4u.net/gta4/news.aspx?nid=4635
> (except
> > my
> > publication list only gives those rubbish ones I
> > wrote, qie~~~ :P), if the link is still there when
> u
> > read.
> >
> > by the way, I saw:
> >
> > 『虂E脑犹浮?暂停“謥E丒柚卸臼录碧致鄣耐ㄖ?> >
> >
> > 作者：webmaster 提交日期：2006-1-19 12:06:00
> >
> >
> 为有利于事件的顺利解决，有关“謥E丒柚卸臼录被?> 题暂停讨论，敬莵E魑
煌雅浜稀?> >
> >
> >
> > 特此通知
> > 2006-1-19
> > --------------------------------
> >
> > So the Gong-an will finally do something? Really
> > hope
> > so, I feel really need the authorized dept to say
> > something.
> >
> > --- Hanlin Li wrote:
> >
> > > Sun Xiaozhu,
> > >
> > > I've searched a different database
> (OVID/MEDLINE)
> > > from
> > > Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> > > references
> > > don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> > > couple of papers of interest through our
> > > inter-library
> > > loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> > > striking information was obtained. The patients
> > > cited
> > > in most papers were administrated and treated in
> > > hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored
> for
> > > long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose
> > in
> > > Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure
> out
> > > again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
> > >
> > > Yazi,
> > >
> > > The attachements you sent in your earlier email,
> I
> > > can
> > > only open them at home (which doesn't help
> much).
> > I
> > > need to have the list of your hit references
> (was
> > it
> > > 300?) in some other format, so I can open them
> at
> > > work
> > > and do searches.
> > >
> > > Now my name is all over the place on internet, I
> > am
> > > the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> > > shocked at their "capability", they did a
> reverse
> > > search and find my current home address, my
> > pictures
> > > from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer
> > title,
> > > and even attached a satillite map of my house
> from
> > > google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the
> > bright
> > > side of it, as I found somebody referred me as
> the
> > > "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah?
> So,
> > > Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4
> > girl,
> > > as
> > > I was told someone has already digged out your
> > > picture
> > > from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> > > even
> > > know where it is. :-)
> > >
> > > I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is
> > now
> > > banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway,
> keep
> > me
> > > posted for anything new.
> > >
> > > Take care, all piglets.
> > >
> > > Hanlin
> > >
> > > --- Yes No wrote:
> > >
>
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To: "Hanlin Li" , r******[email protected], "Jin Ya" <
j*******[email protected]>, "Qi Wang"
CC: f*******[email protected]
Hanlin,
I VERY VERY much agree with you: I always talk with
xxx, how ugly human nature can be when they don't need
to be responsible!
I also talked with my brother about what they did to
you, you know what my brother said? He was very angry
and said you should claim back the money, including
the interest! :-P
I fully understand your feeling -- I also feel so
discusting when read it. I have to say you are very
nice and still think it's not a good idea, if I were
you, i will never donate anymore. It's not about the
money at all, it's the feeling. I just hate my
kindness being USED by ugly people!
Hanlin
One thing I think we should do now is, I also told
other piglets, to collect materials and "evidence"
that these people are mad, and they are doing crazy
things just to po4 hai4 us. I don't know exactly how
are we going to use the material yet, but it doesn't
harm to collect it.
So could you pls collect these virus message / people/
ID, save the content so that it's readable offline
even if they delete it one day, or screenshot as well.
For those bad things, i.e., hurting your private
life/privacy, work, curse, virus words, so something
like saying we are he2 mou2 murdering etc.
Collect them now.
One good side benifit is that if you think of this
purpose, you no longer get angry when reading those
posts :-) It works on me quite well :)
Again, take care!
--- Hanlin Li wrote:
> Agree with all, that Yazi's does look great in the
> picture, free advertisement! and I wouldn't be
> surprised that they find out Yazi is still
> available.
> :-), so...., Yazi, be prepared to get more love
> letters from secret admirers. :-)))
>
> The two pictures of mine were actully my recent
> pictures (2-3 years ago), which I posted onto my
> high-school alumni webpage, where the inside and
> outside of my house were shown. I know they are
> attacking us because they saw the house, that we
> work
> in a pretigeous pharm., they even estimated our
> annual
> income, and saying we were donating too little. but
> they didn't know we are actually donating annually
> through our company's donation program so the fund
> org. can get 100% match from Pfizer. But guess what,
> I
> got so disgusted about the discussion, it actually
> made me think that I probably won't donate any more
> in
> the future. I know it is bad thinking, but I am just
> so sick of it. What right do they have to finger
> point
> us! Forget it!!!
>
> I think it would be hard for them to find out who my
> boss is, because my boss just keeps changing. :-) I
> am
> going to meet my 5th boss (in 4 years) in the next
> month or so. Hopefully, they won't find HR, that's
> when I may get into trouble. Anyway, I will be
> prepared. These days, my Chinese colleagues keep
> asking me, why they are aftering us, what are they
> up
> to? That's exactly the thing I couldn't understand,
> what are they thinking when they do these mean
> things,
> just for fun? or they really believe they are
> someone,
> while in reality they are nobody? People! Ugly
> people!
>
> You all take care!
>
> Hanlin
>
> --- Yes No wrote:
>
> > Hanlin
> > So so so sorry to make you all famous! :-( Be
> really
> > careful, those people can do anything. Digging out
> > the
> > info is 1st step, next they may do things more
> mean.
> > Like Jinya's boss got the anonymos letter saying
> she
> > was the suspect! You & Gang need to be very
> careful,
> > especially you, as somebody think you were the
> > roommate. Maybe you want to inform your boss
> ahead?
> > If he/she knows about cultural revolution, it's
> > easier
> > for them to understand, like Ya's boss. Anyway,
> you
> > decide yourself, but just get prepared...
> >
> > Don't be chou4 mei3 about the comment of being
> > "Liang4
> > li4" :-P
> > They won't stop doing mean things simply because
> you
> > are "Liang4 Li4".
> > BTW, maybe you want to share with us your "liang
> li"
> > picture in high-school? I haven't seen it before
> :-)
> > I also remembered I saw somewhere people found out
> > the
> > amount of Gang's denate to ZhuLing and people are
> > spreading virus words, saying it's too little etc.
> I
> > was sooo furious! How ugly people are!! Recently
> I'm
> > always surprised about this topic :(
> >
> > Back to your question, according to media, it's
> > lethal, I mean dose in ZL's blood.
> >
> >
> >
> > --- Hanlin Li wrote:
> >
> > > Sun Xiaozhu,
> > >
> > > I've searched a different database
> (OVID/MEDLINE)
> > > from
> > > Pfizer e-library, unfortunately, almost all
> > > references
> > > don't have full-text available. I've requested a
> > > couple of papers of interest through our
> > > inter-library
> > > loan (it ususally takes ~ 2 days), but not much
> > > striking information was obtained. The patients
> > > cited
> > > in most papers were administrated and treated in
> > > hospitcal days after poisioning, and monitored
> for
> > > long-term symptoms afterwards. What was the dose
> > in
> > > Zhu Ling's blood again? I am trying to figure
> out
> > > again if it is acute toxic limit or lethal.
> > >
> > > Yazi,
> > >
> > > The attachements you sent in your earlier email,
> I
> > > can
> > > only open them at home (which doesn't help
> much).
> > I
> > > need to have the list of your hit references
> (was
> > it
> > > 300?) in some other format, so I can open them
> at
> > > work
> > > and do searches.
> > >
> > > Now my name is all over the place on internet, I
> > am
> > > the next famous person than Sun Xiaozhu. I am so
> > > shocked at their "capability", they did a
> reverse
> > > search and find my current home address, my
> > pictures
> > > from my high-school alumni website, my Pfizer
> > title,
> > > and even attached a satillite map of my house
> from
> > > google. isn't that amazing? Well, look at the
> > bright
> > > side of it, as I found somebody referred me as
> the
> > > "Liang4 Li4" wife of Gang, so not too bad, ah?
> So,
> > > Yazi, be prepared to be called the Liang4 Li4
> > girl,
> > > as
> > > I was told someone has already digged out your
> > > picture
> > > from your research lab's homepage, which I don't
> > > even
> > > know where it is. :-)
> > >
> > > I also noticed that the discussion at Tianya is
> > now
> > > banned. I guess that's a good thing? Anyway,
> keep
> > me
> > > posted for anything new.
> > >
> > > Take care, all piglets.
> > >
> > > Hanlin
> > >
> > > --- Yes No wrote:
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > __________________________________________________
> > > > Do You Yahoo!?
> > > > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam
> > > > protection around
> > > > http://mail.yahoo.com
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> > >
> >
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>
> | n****d
发帖数: 2241 | 33 铊粉要粉墨登场了？
看来这段时间真是把孙铊急坏了！ | n****d
发帖数: 2241 | | s*******l
发帖数: 8210 | 35 现在这帮脑残，神仙，骗子，混混是为朱令申冤嘛？ 我咋看着很多都是马甲笼罩下的
搂钱黑手。 既然是为朱令申冤就给人大或者最高法院写信啊？ 为啥自己在网上满世界
的找sunwei？今天找的孙维在中国，后天在美国，一会儿在ｏｈｉｏ，一会儿在ｎｊ，
再一会儿又到了Florida，随后又说在加州，最后又折腾到了巴尔的摩，现在又说回国
了。这都什么跟什么啊？
一个自己都信口开河，东拐西骗的样子，还能给别人申冤？ 算了吧，狗改不了吃ｓ的
路，骗子永远是骗子，就凭现在这帮心理扭曲，蓄意走火入魔，唯利是图，一切不顾的
奇葩，我压根不信是为了给朱令申冤，不过是为了钱而已。
【在 L***n 的大作中提到】
: 看了之后，只有一个感觉，金亚，王棋完全无辜，不然
: 口气会不一样，其他人不知道，没一个一个细看，这贴
: 子露出来反而证明几个人的清白
| n****d
发帖数: 2241 | | s*******l
发帖数: 8210 | 37 我不是如何人的粉，如果你说的是我，我可以告诉你，我没有删我的帖子，我也好奇谁
删的呢。
【在 n****d 的大作中提到】
: 什么？？？
: 铊粉把自己的帖子阉了？
| n****d
发帖数: 2241 | 38 我没说是你啊。
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 我不是如何人的粉，如果你说的是我，我可以告诉你，我没有删我的帖子，我也好奇谁
: 删的呢。
| T**********e
发帖数: 29576 | | Z*****l
发帖数: 14069 | 40 大料？还爆八角茴香葱花蒜泥。
【在 t****7 的大作中提到】
: 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
: 发信人: Mayans (玛雅), 信区: WaterWorld
: 标 题: Re: 天涯爆大料了！！！
: 发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 23 23:41:56 2013, 美东)
: http://ishare.iask.sina.com.cn/download/explain.php?fileid=2279
| | | k********9
发帖数: 2326 | 41 靠,真急了
马上就变疯狗了
S主子再给它们喂点铊
就天下无敌了
【在 n****d 的大作中提到】
: 铊们急了，我看出来了。
| t***o
发帖数: 19256 | 42 原来还以为你只是反捐款走火入魔
现在看其实还就是一拿钱洗地的，故意搅浑水而已
【在 s*******l 的大作中提到】
: 现在这帮脑残，神仙，骗子，混混是为朱令申冤嘛？ 我咋看着很多都是马甲笼罩下的
: 搂钱黑手。 既然是为朱令申冤就给人大或者最高法院写信啊？ 为啥自己在网上满世界
: 的找sunwei？今天找的孙维在中国，后天在美国，一会儿在ｏｈｉｏ，一会儿在ｎｊ，
: 再一会儿又到了Florida，随后又说在加州，最后又折腾到了巴尔的摩，现在又说回国
: 了。这都什么跟什么啊？
: 一个自己都信口开河，东拐西骗的样子，还能给别人申冤？ 算了吧，狗改不了吃ｓ的
: 路，骗子永远是骗子，就凭现在这帮心理扭曲，蓄意走火入魔，唯利是图，一切不顾的
: 奇葩，我压根不信是为了给朱令申冤，不过是为了钱而已。
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