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Law版 - Overcoming pre-aia 102(e) 102(a) and 102(b) rejections
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k*********r
发帖数: 362
1
102(e), 102(a), and 102(b) can be overcome by perfecting priority claim
under 120
102(b) however cannot be overcome by perfecting priority claim under 119(a)-
(d), but 102(e) and 102(a) can, why?
k*********r
发帖数: 362
2
up
A*F
发帖数: 2272
3
to overcome 102(b) you have to file in the US, so only 119(e) and 120 would
work

)-

【在 k*********r 的大作中提到】
: 102(e), 102(a), and 102(b) can be overcome by perfecting priority claim
: under 120
: 102(b) however cannot be overcome by perfecting priority claim under 119(a)-
: (d), but 102(e) and 102(a) can, why?

m*********9
发帖数: 232
4
102(b)讨论的是你的US filing date。120和119e都影响你的US filing date, 但是
119a-d不能改变你的US filing date。
这是考试重点,good luck
k*********r
发帖数: 362
5
119(a)
An application for patent for an invention filed in this country by any
person who has, or whose legal representatives or assigns have, previously
regularly filed an application for a patent for the same invention in a
foreign country which affords similar privileges in the case of applications
filed in the United States or to citizens of the United States, or in a WTO
member country, shall have the same effect as the same application would
have if filed in this country on the date on which the application for
patent for the same invention was first filed in such foreign country, if
the application in this country is filed within twelve months from the
earliest date on which such foreign application was filed
119(e)
(1) An application for patent filed under section 111(a) or section 363 for
an invention disclosed in the manner provided by section 112(a) (other than
the requirement to disclose the best mode) in a provisional application
filed under section 111(b), by an inventor or inventors named in the
provisional application, shall have the same effect, as to such invention,
as though filed on the date of the provisional application filed under
section 111(b), if the application for patent filed under section 111(a) or
section 363 is filed not later than 12 months after the date on which the
provisional application was filed and if it contains or is amended to
contain a specific reference to the provisional application...
"...shall have the same effect as the same application would have if filed
in this country..." 不明白的就是这个阿,119(a)和119(e)说法基本一样,为啥119(
a)就不能改变US filing date,而119(e)就可以?

【在 m*********9 的大作中提到】
: 102(b)讨论的是你的US filing date。120和119e都影响你的US filing date, 但是
: 119a-d不能改变你的US filing date。
: 这是考试重点,good luck

k*********r
发帖数: 362
6
还是说
“。。。shall have the same effect, as to such invention, as though filed on
the date of the。。。”

“。。。shall have the same effect as the same application would have if
filed in this country on the date on which。。。”
意思不一样?
A*F
发帖数: 2272
7
119(e)是在美国file的provisional application
119(a)-(d)是在外国file的
这怎么能一样...

applications
WTO

【在 k*********r 的大作中提到】
: 119(a)
: An application for patent for an invention filed in this country by any
: person who has, or whose legal representatives or assigns have, previously
: regularly filed an application for a patent for the same invention in a
: foreign country which affords similar privileges in the case of applications
: filed in the United States or to citizens of the United States, or in a WTO
: member country, shall have the same effect as the same application would
: have if filed in this country on the date on which the application for
: patent for the same invention was first filed in such foreign country, if
: the application in this country is filed within twelve months from the

k*********r
发帖数: 362
8
claim 119(e)的priority和claim 119(a)-(d)的priority, claim的是date,又不是
claim在哪里file的,在哪里file的为啥有关系亚?nonprovisional是在美国file的就
好了呀

【在 A*F 的大作中提到】
: 119(e)是在美国file的provisional application
: 119(a)-(d)是在外国file的
: 这怎么能一样...
:
: applications
: WTO

A*F
发帖数: 2272
9
102(b)关心的是你的earliest effective US filing date
claim 119(e) priority可以把你的effective US filing date往前推
因为你前面已经在US file了一个provisional application
claim 119(a)-(d) priority没这效果
因为你前面的application都是在国外file的
你的effective US filing date根本没变

【在 k*********r 的大作中提到】
: claim 119(e)的priority和claim 119(a)-(d)的priority, claim的是date,又不是
: claim在哪里file的,在哪里file的为啥有关系亚?nonprovisional是在美国file的就
: 好了呀

z****g
发帖数: 3509
10
他们没说到点子上。其实是因为pre-AIA 119(a)特别把102(b)的情况排除了,所以119(
a)-(d)不适用于overcome 102(b). 你摘抄的119(a)刚好把这段漏掉了:
"but no patent shall be granted on any application for patent for an
invention which had been patented or described in a printed publication in
any country more than one year before the date of the actual filing of the
application in this country, or which had been in public use or on sale in
this country more than one year prior to such filing."

【在 k*********r 的大作中提到】
: claim 119(e)的priority和claim 119(a)-(d)的priority, claim的是date,又不是
: claim在哪里file的,在哪里file的为啥有关系亚?nonprovisional是在美国file的就
: 好了呀

k*********r
发帖数: 362
11
谢谢哈!的确漏掉这段了,我是从AIA之后的MPEP抄过来的,AIA把这段给删掉了

119(

【在 z****g 的大作中提到】
: 他们没说到点子上。其实是因为pre-AIA 119(a)特别把102(b)的情况排除了,所以119(
: a)-(d)不适用于overcome 102(b). 你摘抄的119(a)刚好把这段漏掉了:
: "but no patent shall be granted on any application for patent for an
: invention which had been patented or described in a printed publication in
: any country more than one year before the date of the actual filing of the
: application in this country, or which had been in public use or on sale in
: this country more than one year prior to such filing."

m*********9
发帖数: 232
12

119(
不是抄漏了,而是Post-AIA以后把这段删掉了。

【在 z****g 的大作中提到】
: 他们没说到点子上。其实是因为pre-AIA 119(a)特别把102(b)的情况排除了,所以119(
: a)-(d)不适用于overcome 102(b). 你摘抄的119(a)刚好把这段漏掉了:
: "but no patent shall be granted on any application for patent for an
: invention which had been patented or described in a printed publication in
: any country more than one year before the date of the actual filing of the
: application in this country, or which had been in public use or on sale in
: this country more than one year prior to such filing."

z****g
发帖数: 3509
13
讨论的就是pre-AIA,我又不知道楼主是从哪里抄的。

【在 m*********9 的大作中提到】
:
: 119(
: 不是抄漏了,而是Post-AIA以后把这段删掉了。

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