p*****y 发帖数: 204 | 1 是撞上1172了,所以前途未卜。具体如下:
1.review 通过
2.Contribution: while these references describe your achievements as
novel and useful and state that you have contributed to your field of
endeavor, they do not indicate how your work constituted a contribution
of major significance to his field(rather than an individual lab or
institution).
3.Authorship: You claim that you articles or publications have been
cited 210 times but the evidence is not sufficient to establish the
number of independent citations that cited your articles.
很没逻辑的是,下面接着是这段话:
as to your authorship of 30 scholarly articles published in major
publications and conference proceedings indicates that you meet the
plain language of the criterion pursuant to 8 C.F.R. section 204.5(h)(3)
(vi).(这里好像说通过)
As such, the evidence submitted doesn't meet this criterion. (这里说不够)
不过authorship应该比较好回复,做个他引的数据应该可以。但contribution不知道怎么才能说
服1172啊。好像要有工作被真正做成产品被使用才算major significance,可惜没有:(
求建议对付1172。多谢!
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3月21日 efile;23日 delieried; 今天收到RFE email了,现在还不知道到底RFE的什
么,但是估计凶多吉少,很紧张!:( 如果contribution没有过,是不是回复RFE就比较
难啊?背景以前发过(见下面链接)。本来准备批了发包子的,没想到RFE了。等拿到
具体信息再和大家分享,寻求建议,律师的招法估计不如版上的多。先谢谢啦!
http://www.mitbbs.com/article_t0/Immigration/32311527.html |
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s****l 发帖数: 323 | 3 bless, 希望没有什么大问题,排队等具体信息分享 |
I**1 发帖数: 2473 | 4 bless
【在 p*****y 的大作中提到】 : 是撞上1172了,所以前途未卜。具体如下: : 1.review 通过 : 2.Contribution: while these references describe your achievements as : novel and useful and state that you have contributed to your field of : endeavor, they do not indicate how your work constituted a contribution : of major significance to his field(rather than an individual lab or : institution). : 3.Authorship: You claim that you articles or publications have been : cited 210 times but the evidence is not sufficient to establish the : number of independent citations that cited your articles.
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b*******e 发帖数: 24532 | 5 现在讨论还太早,最近报出来的RFE都是很简单的东西。
【在 p*****y 的大作中提到】 : 是撞上1172了,所以前途未卜。具体如下: : 1.review 通过 : 2.Contribution: while these references describe your achievements as : novel and useful and state that you have contributed to your field of : endeavor, they do not indicate how your work constituted a contribution : of major significance to his field(rather than an individual lab or : institution). : 3.Authorship: You claim that you articles or publications have been : cited 210 times but the evidence is not sufficient to establish the : number of independent citations that cited your articles.
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p***a 发帖数: 415 | 6 take it easy
get well prepared!
and blessings~ |
p***a 发帖数: 415 | 7 bless, just found out that your case is pretty strong! |
L*******e 发帖数: 2540 | 8 bless.............
背景不错了 |
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p*****y 发帖数: 204 | 10 大蜜蜂,救人呀。。。
律师说expert testimony够了,除了4封独立,还提交了其他引用我工作的文章中的一
些highlights,不过这是在PL中提到的,我觉得1172不看PL的推论越来越受支持。
【在 b*******e 的大作中提到】 : 现在讨论还太早,最近报出来的RFE都是很简单的东西。
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p*******e 发帖数: 403 | 11 bless, 1172还是很活跃啊
【在 p*****y 的大作中提到】 : 是撞上1172了,所以前途未卜。具体如下: : 1.review 通过 : 2.Contribution: while these references describe your achievements as : novel and useful and state that you have contributed to your field of : endeavor, they do not indicate how your work constituted a contribution : of major significance to his field(rather than an individual lab or : institution). : 3.Authorship: You claim that you articles or publications have been : cited 210 times but the evidence is not sufficient to establish the : number of independent citations that cited your articles.
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p*****y 发帖数: 204 | 12 我给律师说要不要晚点再pp,他说这个和RFE没什么关系。不顺着他好了,结果真的撞
上1172了。唉。。。
【在 p*******e 的大作中提到】 : bless, 1172还是很活跃啊 :
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e******r 发帖数: 9977 | 13 这个看来是1172的模板。
其实是很强的case了。我的理解是,只承认了一项。
authorship那个还要接着论证。
以前有个从1172手下rfe过得例子,lz好好研究一下。big bless
【在 p*****y 的大作中提到】 : 是撞上1172了,所以前途未卜。具体如下: : 1.review 通过 : 2.Contribution: while these references describe your achievements as : novel and useful and state that you have contributed to your field of : endeavor, they do not indicate how your work constituted a contribution : of major significance to his field(rather than an individual lab or : institution). : 3.Authorship: You claim that you articles or publications have been : cited 210 times but the evidence is not sufficient to establish the : number of independent citations that cited your articles.
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A******n 发帖数: 2976 | 14 big big bless!!!!
【在 p*****y 的大作中提到】 : 是撞上1172了,所以前途未卜。具体如下: : 1.review 通过 : 2.Contribution: while these references describe your achievements as : novel and useful and state that you have contributed to your field of : endeavor, they do not indicate how your work constituted a contribution : of major significance to his field(rather than an individual lab or : institution). : 3.Authorship: You claim that you articles or publications have been : cited 210 times but the evidence is not sufficient to establish the : number of independent citations that cited your articles.
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m******n 发帖数: 151 | 18 1172真是阴魂不散,折磨了多少XDJM啊。
振作精神,好好考古战胜1172的帖子,再好好挖掘你那200多个citation,准备几封有
理有据的推荐信。估计1172不喜欢空话套话大话,只喜欢实话和实例。 |
G*****h 发帖数: 2272 | 19 1172是不是专门负责直接PP的案子? 板上好像有几个直接pp碰到1172的? 有人可以确认
一下吗?
【在 p*****y 的大作中提到】 : 是撞上1172了,所以前途未卜。具体如下: : 1.review 通过 : 2.Contribution: while these references describe your achievements as : novel and useful and state that you have contributed to your field of : endeavor, they do not indicate how your work constituted a contribution : of major significance to his field(rather than an individual lab or : institution). : 3.Authorship: You claim that you articles or publications have been : cited 210 times but the evidence is not sufficient to establish the : number of independent citations that cited your articles.
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m******n 发帖数: 151 | 20 记得枪兄的分析是这样的,所以才提出了追加PP避开1172的理论,在研究绿卡申请的学
术界可获诺贝尔奖。:-)
【在 G*****h 的大作中提到】 : 1172是不是专门负责直接PP的案子? 板上好像有几个直接pp碰到1172的? 有人可以确认 : 一下吗?
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p*****y 发帖数: 204 | 21 多谢。心里真是没底。
【在 e******r 的大作中提到】 : 这个看来是1172的模板。 : 其实是很强的case了。我的理解是,只承认了一项。 : authorship那个还要接着论证。 : 以前有个从1172手下rfe过得例子,lz好好研究一下。big bless
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K*N 发帖数: 7494 | |
j**i 发帖数: 245 | |
w**********3 发帖数: 1200 | 25 bless
【在 p*****y 的大作中提到】 : 是撞上1172了,所以前途未卜。具体如下: : 1.review 通过 : 2.Contribution: while these references describe your achievements as : novel and useful and state that you have contributed to your field of : endeavor, they do not indicate how your work constituted a contribution : of major significance to his field(rather than an individual lab or : institution). : 3.Authorship: You claim that you articles or publications have been : cited 210 times but the evidence is not sufficient to establish the : number of independent citations that cited your articles.
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t**l 发帖数: 206 | 29 关于contribution,一是可以争取联系曾经引用你的paper的人给你写推荐信,表达你
的成果对他的研究的重要性;二是把你的研究成果往具体的产品上联系,即使你的成果
还没有应用,但是如果应用,会比现有的好在哪里。
【在 p*****y 的大作中提到】 : 是撞上1172了,所以前途未卜。具体如下: : 1.review 通过 : 2.Contribution: while these references describe your achievements as : novel and useful and state that you have contributed to your field of : endeavor, they do not indicate how your work constituted a contribution : of major significance to his field(rather than an individual lab or : institution). : 3.Authorship: You claim that you articles or publications have been : cited 210 times but the evidence is not sufficient to establish the : number of independent citations that cited your articles.
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s****l 发帖数: 323 | 30 我觉得可能楼主写了很多自己做的东西有用,但是没有重点说影响,多找几个引用你文
章的推荐人,夸你的东西,还有国际的影响力,没有联系的人也因为你的工作知道你,
不一定非要有产品,potential的东西可以让推荐人吹,不能自己吹,貌似推荐信和引
用比较少,所以总体感觉影响不,个人看法,希望能抛砖引玉。 |
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p*****y 发帖数: 204 | 32 多谢tall和solgel的建议。
其实好多东西都已经提交了,写推荐信的推荐人都是引用我工作的,都说明了我的工作
对他们研究的影响。而且PL里还列举了一些其他人引用我工作的一些highlights,还提
交了很多地方的研究者寄来的email咨询有关我的工作,但这些1172都没有看。很多
objective evidence都没有看,回复的时候只能再强调一下了。就像大蜜蜂说的,1172
好像只看reference letter。我觉得对于1172来说,推荐人吹不管用的,他/她就是要
看客观证据,已经有了影响,potential的不算。
【在 s****l 的大作中提到】 : 我觉得可能楼主写了很多自己做的东西有用,但是没有重点说影响,多找几个引用你文 : 章的推荐人,夸你的东西,还有国际的影响力,没有联系的人也因为你的工作知道你, : 不一定非要有产品,potential的东西可以让推荐人吹,不能自己吹,貌似推荐信和引 : 用比较少,所以总体感觉影响不,个人看法,希望能抛砖引玉。
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f*****e 发帖数: 1889 | 33 看了你之前的贴子, 背景挺强的.
感觉问题还是在推荐信上. 1172明确说了, 推荐信证明了你的研究对推荐人很有用(an
individual lab or institution), 但是没有证明对你领域的贡献(to his field)
你的推荐人在谈贡献的时候是不是太FOCUS到某个具体例子, 以至显得你的贡献很狭隘?
2.Contribution: while these references describe your achievements as
novel and useful and state that you have contributed to your field of
endeavor, they do not indicate how your work constituted a contribution
of major significance to his field(rather than an individual lab or
institution).
1172
【在 p*****y 的大作中提到】 : 多谢tall和solgel的建议。 : 其实好多东西都已经提交了,写推荐信的推荐人都是引用我工作的,都说明了我的工作 : 对他们研究的影响。而且PL里还列举了一些其他人引用我工作的一些highlights,还提 : 交了很多地方的研究者寄来的email咨询有关我的工作,但这些1172都没有看。很多 : objective evidence都没有看,回复的时候只能再强调一下了。就像大蜜蜂说的,1172 : 好像只看reference letter。我觉得对于1172来说,推荐人吹不管用的,他/她就是要 : 看客观证据,已经有了影响,potential的不算。
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w***s 发帖数: 424 | 35 bless
【在 p*****y 的大作中提到】 : 是撞上1172了,所以前途未卜。具体如下: : 1.review 通过 : 2.Contribution: while these references describe your achievements as : novel and useful and state that you have contributed to your field of : endeavor, they do not indicate how your work constituted a contribution : of major significance to his field(rather than an individual lab or : institution). : 3.Authorship: You claim that you articles or publications have been : cited 210 times but the evidence is not sufficient to establish the : number of independent citations that cited your articles.
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x*********u 发帖数: 62 | 36 Bless!!
我是后面追加PP的,但还是碰到1172了。也是贡献这项没有过被RFE了。现在在准备中
,头大。准备补两封独立推荐信和一封rebuttal RL
大家的意见是1172只看RL,所以我们都好好准备推荐信吧。
1172
【在 p*****y 的大作中提到】 : 多谢tall和solgel的建议。 : 其实好多东西都已经提交了,写推荐信的推荐人都是引用我工作的,都说明了我的工作 : 对他们研究的影响。而且PL里还列举了一些其他人引用我工作的一些highlights,还提 : 交了很多地方的研究者寄来的email咨询有关我的工作,但这些1172都没有看。很多 : objective evidence都没有看,回复的时候只能再强调一下了。就像大蜜蜂说的,1172 : 好像只看reference letter。我觉得对于1172来说,推荐人吹不管用的,他/她就是要 : 看客观证据,已经有了影响,potential的不算。
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