C*******r
发帖数: 10345 | 1 California lawmakers pass expanded semi-automatic weapons ban
By Sharon Bernstein
SACRAMENTO (Reuters) - New sales of semi-automatic rifles with removable
magazines would be banned in California under a bill passed by the
Democratic-led state legislature on Tuesday, and those who already own such
weapons would have to register them.
The measure, which passed the state Assembly 44-31 and is expected to go to
Governor Jerry Brown for his signature after amendments are approved in the
state Senate, is one of a package of gun control bills passed earlier this
year by senators in the wake of the massacre last year at Sandy Hook
Elementary School in Newtown, Connecticut.
It would classify as an assault weapon as any rifle that accepts a
detachable magazine that can hold more than 10 rounds of ammunition, and
would ban its sale or purchase. People who already own such weapons would be
required to register them.
"How many more innocent men, women and children have to be slaughtered while
going about their daily lives before we do something?" asked Assemblyman
Reginald B. Jones-Sawyer, Sr., a Democrat from Los Angeles, speaking in
favor of the ban.
He ticked off a gruesome list of recent gun massacres: Sandy Hook, killings
at a Sikh Temple in Wisconsin, the Colorado movie theater killings and
others.
The road to passage has not been easy for several of the weapons measures
introduced this year, despite California's history of strong gun control
laws and large legislative majorities for Democrats, who tend to favor them.
New voting laws in the state have made it necessary for many Democrats -
particularly in the Assembly - to win over moderates and conservatives, and
Republicans were joined by several Democrats in opposing the bill.
"I don't know what the right word is to express how strongly I oppose this
bill," said Assemblyman Tim Donnelly, a Republican who represents the
Southern California community of Twin Peaks, complaining that it amounted to
a direct swipe against the constitutional right to bear arms.
California, which has some of the toughest gun control laws in the nation,
already bans rifles with large-capacity fixed magazines, which cannot be
removed. This bill would expand that ban to add rifles that accept large-
capacity removable magazines.
Other bills in the package passed by the Senate would have tightened
additional laws, including banning a type of trigger known as a button.
Faced with reluctance by the more conservative, but still Democratic leaning
, state Assembly to take up the package, Assembly Speaker John Perez,
himself a gun owner, placed the bills in legislative limbo where they
remained for months.
Now, with the end of the session looming on Thursday, Perez late last week
released three of the bills, including the one passed on Tuesday. Six
Democrats joined Assembly Republicans to vote in the minority against the
measure.
Two other bills remain active from the original package, and are expected to
be heard later this week.
One would ban possession of any ammunition clip that holds more than 10
rounds, and the other bans people with multiple drug and alcohol convictions
and convictions for gang-related crimes from owning a firearm for 10 years. |
s*m
发帖数: 1896 | 2 shit,还好紧急屯了两支ar15
手枪半自动应该没事吧? |
j*****v
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A*****i
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T******g
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C*******r
发帖数: 10345 | 6 搬到Arizona，Nevada存起来，也不注册。
【在 T******g 的大作中提到】
: 以前买的要注册，NND
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r*******g
发帖数: 32828 | 7 不仅如此， 如果通过的话， 手上的标准弹匣还要处理掉。
干。 |
S**********s
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r****o
发帖数: 4282 | 9 神经病一波接一波啊
such
to
【在 C*******r 的大作中提到】
: California lawmakers pass expanded semi-automatic weapons ban
: By Sharon Bernstein
: SACRAMENTO (Reuters) - New sales of semi-automatic rifles with removable
: magazines would be banned in California under a bill passed by the
: Democratic-led state legislature on Tuesday, and those who already own such
: weapons would have to register them.
: The measure, which passed the state Assembly 44-31 and is expected to go to
: Governor Jerry Brown for his signature after amendments are approved in the
: state Senate, is one of a package of gun control bills passed earlier this
: year by senators in the wake of the massacre last year at Sandy Hook
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T******s
发帖数: 1107 | 10 已有的，但还没组装的lower该怎么办？能拿去注册吗？ |
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a***a
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g*********6
发帖数: 1429 | |
C*******r
发帖数: 10345 | 13 参院已过，就等州长签字。
加州一定会因为此受到报应，俺们拭目以待。
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】
: 还没有在参议院通过？
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l***1
发帖数: 1500 | 14 其实牺牲一个加州，拯救其他州也好。
【在 C*******r 的大作中提到】
: 参院已过，就等州长签字。
: 加州一定会因为此受到报应，俺们拭目以待。
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p*******r
发帖数: 180 | 15 嗯，拿半自动突突是中部红脖才干的事情。加州同学还是上拴动打远程，或是射箭这种
更高雅的运动吧：）
【在 l***1 的大作中提到】
: 其实牺牲一个加州，拯救其他州也好。
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H******S
发帖数: 6011 | 16 I second that.
【在 l***1 的大作中提到】
: 其实牺牲一个加州，拯救其他州也好。
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l*****t
发帖数: 3117 | 17 哎，越走越远了。
这些lawmakers真的觉得自己有权了，可以为所欲为了。
看看俺们科州，就知道下场了。
【在 C*******r 的大作中提到】
: 参院已过，就等州长签字。
: 加州一定会因为此受到报应，俺们拭目以待。
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a***a
发帖数: 8941 | 18 56半在加州好像不合法
【在 g*********6 的大作中提到】
: 八大粒，56半是王道。
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n****e
发帖数: 6292 | 19
科州还在拉锯战，在挣扎的边缘，加州只会越陷越深
【在 l*****t 的大作中提到】
: 哎，越走越远了。
: 这些lawmakers真的觉得自己有权了，可以为所欲为了。
: 看看俺们科州，就知道下场了。
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l***1
发帖数: 1500 | 20 是呀，还八大粒，一大粒就不错了。以后还要继续修法，将来只准放空包弹，听个响就
好啦。另外恭喜加州同学可以借此狠捞一笔。
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】
: 56半在加州好像不合法
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r*******g
发帖数: 32828 | 21 56半， 加州合法， 不合法的是56D? 是那种弹匣的。 |
s****e
发帖数: 363 | 22 正解！已经弄了两支56半了，一支拿来打，一支放在家里看。
【在 g*********6 的大作中提到】
: 八大粒，56半是王道。
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k*******n
发帖数: 5546 | 23 意料之中，加州现在这种墙倒众人推的情况，也不期望神马了。
不过还是提交了，死马也当活马医。 |
a***a
发帖数: 8941 | 24 我以为你不在加州呢
【在 k*******n 的大作中提到】
: 意料之中，加州现在这种墙倒众人推的情况，也不期望神马了。
: 不过还是提交了，死马也当活马医。
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l*******g
发帖数: 27064 | 25 左bi都这德行，搞内斗很在行
使劲扩大自己手中的权力，去破坏别人的权利
然后还美其名曰为你好 |
f********r
发帖数: 3155 | 26 确实是墙倒众人推，没指望了，连外州玩枪的都希望加州倒了。
殊不知天下大势，此消彼长，美国东西海岸的州先倒了，然后就轮到内陆的了。加州直
到里根时代，一直是共和党，后来老莫大规模移入，成个民主党的天下。加州这几年老
莫的百分比没什么变化，反而是德州一直再增加
【在 k*******n 的大作中提到】
: 意料之中，加州现在这种墙倒众人推的情况，也不期望神马了。
: 不过还是提交了，死马也当活马医。
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a***a
发帖数: 8941 | 27 有道理，覆巢之下，岂有完卵
而且即使别的红州不沦陷，但是在国会里李波肉占了绝对优势的话，完全可以在联邦层
次制定法律来禁枪，那样所有的州都不能幸免。
但是目前加州这种状况，有逆转的可能么？
【在 f********r 的大作中提到】
: 确实是墙倒众人推，没指望了，连外州玩枪的都希望加州倒了。
: 殊不知天下大势，此消彼长，美国东西海岸的州先倒了，然后就轮到内陆的了。加州直
: 到里根时代，一直是共和党，后来老莫大规模移入，成个民主党的天下。加州这几年老
: 莫的百分比没什么变化，反而是德州一直再增加
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k*****r
发帖数: 21039 | 28 米犹这样搞，米国红脖子又不是傻子，真要来个krystallnacht, 警察还不是一边看笑
话，顺便分分米犹的浮财。 .
such
to
the
【在 C*******r 的大作中提到】
: California lawmakers pass expanded semi-automatic weapons ban
: By Sharon Bernstein
: SACRAMENTO (Reuters) - New sales of semi-automatic rifles with removable
: magazines would be banned in California under a bill passed by the
: Democratic-led state legislature on Tuesday, and those who already own such
: weapons would have to register them.
: The measure, which passed the state Assembly 44-31 and is expected to go to
: Governor Jerry Brown for his signature after amendments are approved in the
: state Senate, is one of a package of gun control bills passed earlier this
: year by senators in the wake of the massacre last year at Sandy Hook
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p*******r
发帖数: 180 | 29 大家也就是调侃一下，应该没人认为这是个好事。但以加州的政治走势，对合法拥枪者
只会越来越不友好。
【在 f********r 的大作中提到】
: 确实是墙倒众人推，没指望了，连外州玩枪的都希望加州倒了。
: 殊不知天下大势，此消彼长，美国东西海岸的州先倒了，然后就轮到内陆的了。加州直
: 到里根时代，一直是共和党，后来老莫大规模移入，成个民主党的天下。加州这几年老
: 莫的百分比没什么变化，反而是德州一直再增加
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l*****t
发帖数: 3117 | 30 说的是，我们期望的是：越大镇压带来的越大反抗。
【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: 大家也就是调侃一下，应该没人认为这是个好事。但以加州的政治走势，对合法拥枪者
: 只会越来越不友好。
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l***1
发帖数: 1500 | 31 就是嘛,难道要大家气得都吐血才可以?大伙只是表达一下无耐的心情。兔死狐悲呀!
【在 p*******r 的大作中提到】
: 大家也就是调侃一下，应该没人认为这是个好事。但以加州的政治走势，对合法拥枪者
: 只会越来越不友好。
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y*********r
发帖数: 587 | 32 那现在赶紧下手买AR15还来得及吗？
such
to
the
【在 C*******r 的大作中提到】
: California lawmakers pass expanded semi-automatic weapons ban
: By Sharon Bernstein
: SACRAMENTO (Reuters) - New sales of semi-automatic rifles with removable
: magazines would be banned in California under a bill passed by the
: Democratic-led state legislature on Tuesday, and those who already own such
: weapons would have to register them.
: The measure, which passed the state Assembly 44-31 and is expected to go to
: Governor Jerry Brown for his signature after amendments are approved in the
: state Senate, is one of a package of gun control bills passed earlier this
: year by senators in the wake of the massacre last year at Sandy Hook
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S*******T
发帖数: 5156 | 33 没用的，警察早就被收买了。水晶之夜的时候犹太人在德国没啥社会地位吧？
【在 k*****r 的大作中提到】
: 米犹这样搞，米国红脖子又不是傻子，真要来个krystallnacht, 警察还不是一边看笑
: 话，顺便分分米犹的浮财。 .
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: such
: to
: the
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y****u
发帖数: 760 | |
a***a
发帖数: 8941 | 35 真的把所有带弹匣的半自动都禁了，还是给了一个禁的list？ |
O******n
发帖数: 1505 | 36 我的印象是，连Ruger 10/22 也禁了
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】
: 真的把所有带弹匣的半自动都禁了，还是给了一个禁的list？
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I*3
发帖数: 7012 | 37 Not yet.
SB 374 passed the Senate on 09/13 and is on its way to the Governor's desk.
【在 y****u 的大作中提到】
: 听广播，州长已经签字了。已经沦陷了。
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I*3
发帖数: 7012 | 38 centerfire rifle
【在 O******n 的大作中提到】
: 我的印象是，连Ruger 10/22 也禁了
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I*3
发帖数: 7012 | 39 所有没有fixed magazine的半自动centerfire rifle
没有list
【在 a***a 的大作中提到】
: 真的把所有带弹匣的半自动都禁了，还是给了一个禁的list？
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n***s
发帖数: 10056 | 40 How to load bullets into a fixed mag? |
