T**********y
发帖数: 157 | 1 需要多少篇Top Journal才能救回来啊？还是这辈子都没希望了？
背景介绍：我博士毕业一年，一般学校，老板很水，于是博士灌了大概10多篇垃圾，
现在在top15学校做薄后，老板算是牛人吧，刚干了6个月，工程方向。
眼看着和之前老板的paper慢慢都出来了，但是薄厚的paper还没着落，
越想觉得越杯具，是不是以后做Faculty没啥希望了啊？ |
v******d
发帖数: 1322 | 2 后面尽量都发top的paper, 还是有希望
【在 T**********y 的大作中提到】
: 需要多少篇Top Journal才能救回来啊？还是这辈子都没希望了？
: 背景介绍：我博士毕业一年，一般学校，老板很水，于是博士灌了大概10多篇垃圾，
: 现在在top15学校做薄后，老板算是牛人吧，刚干了6个月，工程方向。
: 眼看着和之前老板的paper慢慢都出来了，但是薄厚的paper还没着落，
: 越想觉得越杯具，是不是以后做Faculty没啥希望了啊？
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E*****d
发帖数: 238 | 3 什么样的paper是烂paper啊？
JCP， PRB，JPC之类的算烂paper吗？
【在 T**********y 的大作中提到】
: 需要多少篇Top Journal才能救回来啊？还是这辈子都没希望了？
: 背景介绍：我博士毕业一年，一般学校，老板很水，于是博士灌了大概10多篇垃圾，
: 现在在top15学校做薄后，老板算是牛人吧，刚干了6个月，工程方向。
: 眼看着和之前老板的paper慢慢都出来了，但是薄厚的paper还没着落，
: 越想觉得越杯具，是不是以后做Faculty没啥希望了啊？
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f******n
发帖数: 72 | 4
PRB怎么能算烂paper呢，特别是考虑到最近PRL越来越难，不少被PRL砍掉的文章都转到
PRB了
【在 E*****d 的大作中提到】
: 什么样的paper是烂paper啊？
: JCP， PRB，JPC之类的算烂paper吗？
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w******t
发帖数: 1422 | 5 你可真是又勇敢 （这年纪就敢发垃级）， 又勤劳啊 （还发10篇）
近期发些不水的吧， if you know how to do it |
a**********y
发帖数: 2367 | 6 how bad are those papers? impact factor?
i know a guy here who have some 10 garbage papers (IF<1, some even 0.5) who
get a position out of 200 people. some with 4 papers in top journals not
being able to get an interview. life is cheat |
k*****r
发帖数: 21039 | 7 火坑还有人跳啊。
【在 T**********y 的大作中提到】
: 需要多少篇Top Journal才能救回来啊？还是这辈子都没希望了？
: 背景介绍：我博士毕业一年，一般学校，老板很水，于是博士灌了大概10多篇垃圾，
: 现在在top15学校做薄后，老板算是牛人吧，刚干了6个月，工程方向。
: 眼看着和之前老板的paper慢慢都出来了，但是薄厚的paper还没着落，
: 越想觉得越杯具，是不是以后做Faculty没啥希望了啊？
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v*******y
发帖数: 5530 | 8 good for the guy with 4 top journal publication.......
who
【在 a**********y 的大作中提到】
: how bad are those papers? impact factor?
: i know a guy here who have some 10 garbage papers (IF<1, some even 0.5) who
: get a position out of 200 people. some with 4 papers in top journals not
: being able to get an interview. life is cheat
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w****g
发帖数: 1070 | |
a**********y
发帖数: 2367 | 10 why? one top level journal paper takes so much time to produce, I guess he'd
rather have a job.
【在 v*******y 的大作中提到】
: good for the guy with 4 top journal publication.......
:
: who
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v*******y
发帖数: 5530 | 11 he should have a job that appreciates 4 top journal paper more than 10 low
quality paper
'd
【在 a**********y 的大作中提到】
: why? one top level journal paper takes so much time to produce, I guess he'd
: rather have a job.
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m********t
发帖数: 9426 | 12 get a faculty job != more papers
maybe the person who got the job has better communication skills or
connections....how do you know
who
【在 a**********y 的大作中提到】
: how bad are those papers? impact factor?
: i know a guy here who have some 10 garbage papers (IF<1, some even 0.5) who
: get a position out of 200 people. some with 4 papers in top journals not
: being able to get an interview. life is cheat
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v******d
发帖数: 1322 | 13 yes, or a better match with the school's plan
【在 m********t 的大作中提到】
: get a faculty job != more papers
: maybe the person who got the job has better communication skills or
: connections....how do you know
:
: who
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t********n
发帖数: 11 | 14 In many engineering areas, top journals have IF from 0.5-1.
who
【在 a**********y 的大作中提到】
: how bad are those papers? impact factor?
: i know a guy here who have some 10 garbage papers (IF<1, some even 0.5) who
: get a position out of 200 people. some with 4 papers in top journals not
: being able to get an interview. life is cheat
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s***e
发帖数: 5242 | 15 so why engineering people bother to publish paper?
what's the dominant factor for them to become a faculty?
【在 t********n 的大作中提到】
: In many engineering areas, top journals have IF from 0.5-1.
:
: who
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t********n
发帖数: 11 | 16 Low IF doesn't mean it is easy to publish in such journals.
They are still top journals in their fields.
The number definitely counts.
My advisor used to tell me that he got his tenure with 15 journal papers.
But now people need 10 to 15 paper to land a faculty position.
【在 s***e 的大作中提到】
: so why engineering people bother to publish paper?
: what's the dominant factor for them to become a faculty?
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G*****s
发帖数: 664 | 17 agree
【在 t********n 的大作中提到】
: Low IF doesn't mean it is easy to publish in such journals.
: They are still top journals in their fields.
: The number definitely counts.
: My advisor used to tell me that he got his tenure with 15 journal papers.
: But now people need 10 to 15 paper to land a faculty position.
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T*********r
发帖数: 11175 | 18 你们各位难道连楼主的文章都看不懂吗？
paper水不水，作者自己当然知道
和发什么杂志没任何关系
如果水paper没什么错，就算说的是trivial的东西，你说的这些杂志上多着了
发太多水paper，对自己的reputation当然有坏处
问题什么是水什么不是水，各人观点都不一样
我觉得只要你有新的nontrivial的point，就不是纯水
别把别人的东西拿来炒冷饭就行
【在 E*****d 的大作中提到】
: 什么样的paper是烂paper啊？
: JCP， PRB，JPC之类的算烂paper吗？
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T*********r
发帖数: 11175 | 19 if这种东西就是给外行看的
看看那些传统学科里，要发nature，science之类的，全是边缘而已
【在 m********t 的大作中提到】
: get a faculty job != more papers
: maybe the person who got the job has better communication skills or
: connections....how do you know
:
: who
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N*T
发帖数: 414 | 20 In our field, we still need 10-12 papers for tenure.
If a fresh Ph.D.in our field has 15 papers, I would say that is a bad sign.
【在 t********n 的大作中提到】
: Low IF doesn't mean it is easy to publish in such journals.
: They are still top journals in their fields.
: The number definitely counts.
: My advisor used to tell me that he got his tenure with 15 journal papers.
: But now people need 10 to 15 paper to land a faculty position.
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T*********r
发帖数: 11175 | 21 为什么写的多就是bad sign，而不是文章本身
.
【在 N*T 的大作中提到】
: In our field, we still need 10-12 papers for tenure.
: If a fresh Ph.D.in our field has 15 papers, I would say that is a bad sign.
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h****8
发帖数: 44 | 22 恩，和我差不多，我也干了半年博后，文章还没着落。
虽然我也发了几篇top journal，但是还是觉得自己在灌水。要有大的创新太难了。
【在 T**********y 的大作中提到】
: 需要多少篇Top Journal才能救回来啊？还是这辈子都没希望了？
: 背景介绍：我博士毕业一年，一般学校，老板很水，于是博士灌了大概10多篇垃圾，
: 现在在top15学校做薄后，老板算是牛人吧，刚干了6个月，工程方向。
: 眼看着和之前老板的paper慢慢都出来了，但是薄厚的paper还没着落，
: 越想觉得越杯具，是不是以后做Faculty没啥希望了啊？
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e****g
发帖数: 4434 | 23 那最好等到top journal出来
有些地方要求sample publication,不是自己找麻烦 |
