b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 1 慢慢看戏吧.Tea party对boehner不放心.
如果你真心反CIR,我强烈建议你一天给boehner打1000个电话.让他用hastert rule.
http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/18/bachmann-boehner-will-use-loo
On Laura Ingraham’s Tuesday radio show, outgoing Minnesota Republican Rep.
Michele Bachmann predicted that although Speaker of the House John Boehner
has vowed to adhere to the Hastert Rule to pass immigration reform, “there
’s still a loophole that the speaker might allow himself.”
Following the Hastert Rule would mean Boehner would not hold a vote on a
bill that lacks the support of a majority of the Republican caucus. Bachmann
said while Boehner will likely follow it with the version of the bill that
originates in the House, once it goes to committee to reconcile differences
between the House bill and the Senate’s version, all bets are off.
“I don’t think we have a definitive on that yet,” Bachmann said. “I
think there’s still a loophole that the speaker might allow himself — that
he won’t hold himself to the Hastert rule. In the shorthand, this is what
I think is going to happen — the very bad bill is going to be in the Senate
. We’re going to have a Trojan Horse bill that will look very good. It will
look like border security in the House. Conservatives will vote for it in
the House. Both bills will go to conference committee. The guts will get
pulled out of the good bill. Amnesty will get put in. The Senate will pass
it. It will go to the House. Nancy Pelosi will deliver all of the Democrat
votes and all John Boehner has to do is deliver the committee chairs that
hold the gavel.”
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a***k
发帖数: 1038 | 2 What's the incentive for Boehner to do such sneaky thing?
He would gain nothing if not losing.
.
there
Bachmann
that
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: 慢慢看戏吧.Tea party对boehner不放心.
: 如果你真心反CIR,我强烈建议你一天给boehner打1000个电话.让他用hastert rule.
: http://dailycaller.com/2013/06/18/bachmann-boehner-will-use-loo
: On Laura Ingraham’s Tuesday radio show, outgoing Minnesota Republican Rep.
: Michele Bachmann predicted that although Speaker of the House John Boehner
: has vowed to adhere to the Hastert Rule to pass immigration reform, “there
: ’s still a loophole that the speaker might allow himself.”
: Following the Hastert Rule would mean Boehner would not hold a vote on a
: bill that lacks the support of a majority of the Republican caucus. Bachmann
: said while Boehner will likely follow it with the version of the bill that
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b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 3 因为GOP的精英层希望CIR过.这个可以看jeb bush,reince priebus, karl rove发言.我
几个月前就说了,GOP众议员的利益和GOP精英层的利益是不一致的. GOP精英层是从赢得
总统的角度思考问题的.
【在 a***k 的大作中提到】
: What's the incentive for Boehner to do such sneaky thing?
: He would gain nothing if not losing.
:
: .
: there
: Bachmann
: that
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q**q
发帖数: 266 | 4 这个是极有可能的。记者问Boehner时，他说到时再看：
Despite his assurances, Mr. Boehner would not say whether he would also
require majority Republican support on any legislation to emerge from a
conference negotiating process with the Senate.
“We’ll see when we get there,” he said. |
q**q
发帖数: 266 | 5 这个是极有可能的。记者问Boehner时，他说到时再看：
Despite his assurances, Mr. Boehner would not say whether he would also
require majority Republican support on any legislation to emerge from a
conference negotiating process with the Senate.
“We’ll see when we get there,” he said. |
b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 6 大家要淡定.不要一惊一乍的.我认为到目前为止,情况和一周前没有变化.就看参议院了
.Boehner自己都不知道自己要干什么.他就等参议院的投票.
有一个大家要关注,就是rubio, corker, and Hoeven的修正案.这个如果不能通过,那
CIR危险了.
【在 q**q 的大作中提到】
: 这个是极有可能的。记者问Boehner时，他说到时再看：
: Despite his assurances, Mr. Boehner would not say whether he would also
: require majority Republican support on any legislation to emerge from a
: conference negotiating process with the Senate.
: “We’ll see when we get there,” he said.
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w*l
发帖数: 933 | 7 brihand能不能详细讲一下这个loophole?没太看懂啊。
是不是说Boehner遵从Hastert Rule，不拿Senate Bill来house floor 投票。但是会推
一个House自己的版本，然后跟Senate去Conference。等Conference回来再把修改后的
版本拿到House Floor 投票？
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: 大家要淡定.不要一惊一乍的.我认为到目前为止,情况和一周前没有变化.就看参议院了
: .Boehner自己都不知道自己要干什么.他就等参议院的投票.
: 有一个大家要关注,就是rubio, corker, and Hoeven的修正案.这个如果不能通过,那
: CIR危险了.
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n*******s
发帖数: 216 | 8 this is correct.
GOP elite 与GOP 草根和地方派系是有相当大利益分歧的。
地方派系就在乎街道那么大个选区的票。
精英是要操心党国利益的
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】
: 因为GOP的精英层希望CIR过.这个可以看jeb bush,reince priebus, karl rove发言.我
: 几个月前就说了,GOP众议员的利益和GOP精英层的利益是不一致的. GOP精英层是从赢得
: 总统的角度思考问题的.
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J*******A
发帖数: 8401 | |
b*****d
发帖数: 61690 | 10 差不多就是你说的.conference回来的bill,一个字都不能改.只能通过或者不通过,或者
不表决.
【在 w*l 的大作中提到】
: brihand能不能详细讲一下这个loophole?没太看懂啊。
: 是不是说Boehner遵从Hastert Rule，不拿Senate Bill来house floor 投票。但是会推
: 一个House自己的版本，然后跟Senate去Conference。等Conference回来再把修改后的
: 版本拿到House Floor 投票？
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C**********i
发帖数: 694 | 11 还是一样,现在主要看Senate表演，House只会吼一吼，随时都会变。
要说现在House的7人帮出一个CIR，那还值得一看。否则各种媒体发言，两边的都不用
太在意，直接看结果。 |
w*******3
发帖数: 1839 | |
