g******4
发帖数: 6339 | 1 December 30, 2010 (WLS) -- Governor Pat Quinn has signed a law that Mayor
Richard Daley says will trigger the largest property tax increase ever in
Chicago.
Quinn signed a pension reform bill into law, meaning that cities must
contribute more money to help fund pensions for law enforcement officers and
firefighters in Illinois.
The governor says the new law is going to stabilize the pension system, but
critics warn it will burden taxpayers.
Leaders of several municipalities, including Chicago, say steep tax hikes
are on the way.
In a statement Thursday night, Daley said, "the direct result of the
governor's actions will be a massive property tax hike for Chicago residents
of at least $550 million, or about a 60 percent increase."
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/politics&id=78725 |
g******4
发帖数: 6339 | 2 Saturday, December 11, 2010 12:56 PM
Mayor Daley is begging Governor Quinn for pension reform.
Quinn now has on his desk a bill that would allow state to withhold sales
tax and income tax revenue from cities that won't do more to fund their
pension plans.
Property taxes will have to go up for cities to meet their pension
obligations and that is on top of a massive income tax hike that governor
Quinn campaigned for.
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"I’m one who believes that pension funds can go bankrupt and then you
reorganize, and that’s the hardest thing to say," Daley said.
Moderator Richard Stengel, managing editor of Time Magazine, then asked
Daley: "Let them go bankrupt?"
“Yes, and then you reorganize it," Daley replied.
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"(Quinn) wants to tax people. What can I do?" Daley said.
"We can't go tax crazy, but people may want to go tax crazy," the mayor said.
The bill requires municipalities move toward funding police and fire
pensions up to 90 percent of obligations by 2040, and allows the state to
withhold sales tax and income tax revenue from cities that don't do so.
Daley says that to meet the pension funding standard would require a $550
million property tax hike in Chicago.
and
but
【在 g******4 的大作中提到】
: December 30, 2010 (WLS) -- Governor Pat Quinn has signed a law that Mayor
: Richard Daley says will trigger the largest property tax increase ever in
: Chicago.
: Quinn signed a pension reform bill into law, meaning that cities must
: contribute more money to help fund pensions for law enforcement officers and
: firefighters in Illinois.
: The governor says the new law is going to stabilize the pension system, but
: critics warn it will burden taxpayers.
: Leaders of several municipalities, including Chicago, say steep tax hikes
: are on the way.
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c*******d
发帖数: 1763 | 3 Should change the ridiculous medical system instead of adding more onto tax.
【在 g******4 的大作中提到】
: Saturday, December 11, 2010 12:56 PM
: Mayor Daley is begging Governor Quinn for pension reform.
: Quinn now has on his desk a bill that would allow state to withhold sales
: tax and income tax revenue from cities that won't do more to fund their
: pension plans.
: Property taxes will have to go up for cities to meet their pension
: obligations and that is on top of a massive income tax hike that governor
: Quinn campaigned for.
: ......
: "I’m one who believes that pension funds can go bankrupt and then you
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V*H
发帖数: 1301 | 4 just for the city, right? |
c*******d
发帖数: 1763 | 5 "from cities that won't do more to fund their pension plans"
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: just for the city, right?
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N********n
发帖数: 13236 | 6 加税有什么好奇怪的，民主党、老黑和吃福利的非法移民就是社会的蛀虫。
Obama当选庆功party的时候不还有很多受过高等教育的老中欢呼雀跃，争相跑去千禧公
园添老黑屁股么？现在才回味起来当时的味道？ |
V*H
发帖数: 1301 | 7 property tax - dollar for dollar on federal tax return, 5% on state
interest on mortgage - dollar for dollar on federal tax return |
a***x
发帖数: 26368 | 8 oh yeah
and
but
residents
【在 g******4 的大作中提到】
: December 30, 2010 (WLS) -- Governor Pat Quinn has signed a law that Mayor
: Richard Daley says will trigger the largest property tax increase ever in
: Chicago.
: Quinn signed a pension reform bill into law, meaning that cities must
: contribute more money to help fund pensions for law enforcement officers and
: firefighters in Illinois.
: The governor says the new law is going to stabilize the pension system, but
: critics warn it will burden taxpayers.
: Leaders of several municipalities, including Chicago, say steep tax hikes
: are on the way.
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b*****n
发帖数: 482 | 9 Illinois有$544亿的public pension缺口, Taxpayer们和Government Worker的战斗必
将是一场持久战。 |
T*R
发帖数: 36302 | 10 所以想趁这两年房价便宜买大耗子的悠着点。
房价是降了，但是PROPERTY TAX一直在升。特别是新盖的，税都很高。
要是真的像DALEY说的长60%，那很多人要真的吐血了。
州税涨2%是3，4千，大房子地税涨60%就远不只这个数了。
还是MOVE到德州吧。IL这个烂地方，真他妈受够了。 |
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g******4
发帖数: 6339 | 11
八胖, you are happy, aren't you ?
【在 a***x 的大作中提到】
: oh yeah
:
: and
: but
: residents
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F**p
发帖数: 1046 | 12 IL已经衰退了很多年了。加税可能加速这个过程而已。不过也很难说，东西海岸的税都
是最高的，还是人丁兴旺。
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: 所以想趁这两年房价便宜买大耗子的悠着点。
: 房价是降了，但是PROPERTY TAX一直在升。特别是新盖的，税都很高。
: 要是真的像DALEY说的长60%，那很多人要真的吐血了。
: 州税涨2%是3，4千，大房子地税涨60%就远不只这个数了。
: 还是MOVE到德州吧。IL这个烂地方，真他妈受够了。
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g******4
发帖数: 6339 | 13
Yes. That bill just wants to fix the pension for cops and firemen. Long way
to go.
【在 b*****n 的大作中提到】
: Illinois有$544亿的public pension缺口, Taxpayer们和Government Worker的战斗必
: 将是一场持久战。
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g******4
发帖数: 6339 | 14
PROPERTY TAX升 will hurt the housing market, right ?
【在 T*R 的大作中提到】
: 所以想趁这两年房价便宜买大耗子的悠着点。
: 房价是降了，但是PROPERTY TAX一直在升。特别是新盖的，税都很高。
: 要是真的像DALEY说的长60%，那很多人要真的吐血了。
: 州税涨2%是3，4千，大房子地税涨60%就远不只这个数了。
: 还是MOVE到德州吧。IL这个烂地方，真他妈受够了。
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a***x
发帖数: 26368 | 15 肥肠高兴。叫你们买房
【在 g******4 的大作中提到】
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: PROPERTY TAX升 will hurt the housing market, right ?
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T*R
发帖数: 36302 | 16 在美国住久了有时真得觉得房子是负担。
有孩子为了孩子还算个借口，孩子大了，真的不想留着负担。
【在 a***x 的大作中提到】
: 肥肠高兴。叫你们买房
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N********n
发帖数: 13236 | 17 还有，看来这个5%的州税是永久的，不会降了，政客是没有信用的，voter是健忘的：
source: Chicagotribune,
It may be worth remembering that the last time Illinois hiked income tax
rates, in 1989, it was billed as a temporary increase needed to get the
state through a financial rough patch. But the rates never came down and by
1993 were designated as permanent. Until now.
【在 N********n 的大作中提到】
: 加税有什么好奇怪的，民主党、老黑和吃福利的非法移民就是社会的蛀虫。
: Obama当选庆功party的时候不还有很多受过高等教育的老中欢呼雀跃，争相跑去千禧公
: 园添老黑屁股么？现在才回味起来当时的味道？
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g******4
发帖数: 6339 | 18 Illinois' five state public pensions systems are underfunded by $83 billion.
Local governments are having to dedicate more of their operating budgets
each year to fund local public pensions. Thousands of public retirees are
earning six-figure pensions annually, all while Illinois' taxpayers are
being asked to contribute more.
http://ssm.nwherald.com/projects/pension/
way
【在 g******4 的大作中提到】
:
: PROPERTY TAX升 will hurt the housing market, right ?
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a***x
发帖数: 26368 | 19 房都买了，您就老老实实contribute吧。oh yeah
billion.
【在 g******4 的大作中提到】
: Illinois' five state public pensions systems are underfunded by $83 billion.
: Local governments are having to dedicate more of their operating budgets
: each year to fund local public pensions. Thousands of public retirees are
: earning six-figure pensions annually, all while Illinois' taxpayers are
: being asked to contribute more.
: http://ssm.nwherald.com/projects/pension/
:
: way
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g******4
发帖数: 6339 | 20 八胖, 八胖,
You'd better stop saying "oh yeah".
【在 a***x 的大作中提到】
: 房都买了，您就老老实实contribute吧。oh yeah
:
: billion.
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d*b
发帖数: 21830 | 21 这个Norman Wetzel什么来头？district 300 公立中学的头而已，好像是Elgin的，退
休金22万刀？大学校长也就这么多吧。
【在 a***x 的大作中提到】
: 房都买了，您就老老实实contribute吧。oh yeah
:
: billion.
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a***x
发帖数: 26368 | 22 高兴啊，忍不住啊。oh yeah
【在 g******4 的大作中提到】
: 八胖, 八胖,
: You'd better stop saying "oh yeah".
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a***x
发帖数: 26368 | 23 俺不知道他的来头，俺只知道你的来头。
【在 d*b 的大作中提到】
: 这个Norman Wetzel什么来头？district 300 公立中学的头而已，好像是Elgin的，退
: 休金22万刀？大学校长也就这么多吧。
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