s*******d
发帖数: 32 | 1 what can you get most out of this hand, as east or south?
N S Q J X X X
H 6
D 10 X X
C 10 X X X
W S X X X E S A K 10
H 10 X X H A K 9 X
D X X D K J 9 X
C Q J X X X C X X
S S X X
H Q J X X X
D A Q X X
| c********d
发帖数: 4 | 2 both 3NT?
【在 s*******d 的大作中提到】
: what can you get most out of this hand, as east or south?
: N S Q J X X X
: H 6
: D 10 X X
: C 10 X X X
: W S X X X E S A K 10
: H 10 X X H A K 9 X
: D X X D K J 9 X
: C Q J X X X C X X
: S S X X
| g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 3 是不是忒大胆了? :) 两边都是3NT, 这还是桥牌吗?
坐南家, 偶只想象到2D; 坐东家, 偶看好象有2NT.
说实在的, 这副牌挺难的, 不知哪位能站出来指点一下?
【在 c********d 的大作中提到】
: both 3NT?
| c********d
发帖数: 4 | 4 that's what it is interesting about. Defense一方这付牌很吃亏。东能多拿one
trick, 因为南lead。所以3NT能成。
南方怎么拿3NT， 没想好怎样过桥，帮想一下吗？
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】
: 是不是忒大胆了? :) 两边都是3NT, 这还是桥牌吗?
: 坐南家, 偶只想象到2D; 坐东家, 偶看好象有2NT.
: 说实在的, 这副牌挺难的, 不知哪位能站出来指点一下?
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 5 东打不成3NT吧? 南首攻CAK, 转攻S脱手, 以后总可以吃到DAQ和HQ,
所以东最多打2NT, 还得看他有没有D8.
假设东有D8, 他在上面的防御之后,
总可以拔了SAK, 然后DJ送出, 南如果吃进, 只能回D,
东吃进后, 把DT铲下, 拔了D, 最后在H上投入南.
南如果不吃DJ, 东可以打小H, 南必须吃, 但吃完了还是被投入. 所以只要东有D8,
总可以打2NT.
【在 c********d 的大作中提到】
: that's what it is interesting about. Defense一方这付牌很吃亏。东能多拿one
: trick, 因为南lead。所以3NT能成。
: 南方怎么拿3NT， 没想好怎样过桥，帮想一下吗？
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 6 南大概可以打2S
首攻S最严厉,
东吃住SQ, 现在回C最严厉, 假设东回C, 南拔了CAK, 回HQ,
东吃进后只好回DJ, 南吃进, H ruff, 出C,
1东可以垫D, 南ruff, 再H, ruff, D到DA, H ruff.
现在取到CAK, DAQ, 3 H ruff, 1 个C ruff.
2东可以垫H, 南ruff, H, ruff, 北出小将牌, , 东被投入, 他最好的选择是DK,
南吃进, 打H, 西将吃, 北就超吃, 这样, 南北得到: 3D, 2C, C ruff, 2S
如果西垫牌, 北也垫一个C, 东可以王吃, 给搭档一个D王吃, 但是东西也只能得:
1H, 4个S.
2 东也可以王吃, 但东同时会被投入. 以后东也没什么可出的.
南北大概难成2NT.
【在 s*******d 的大作中提到】
: what can you get most out of this hand, as east or south?
: N S Q J X X X
: H 6
: D 10 X X
: C 10 X X X
: W S X X X E S A K 10
: H 10 X X H A K 9 X
: D X X D K J 9 X
: C Q J X X X C X X
: S S X X
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 7 It seems a low Heart lead would beat 2NT. Although it gives up a 3rd H, now
the end play (which will give W an entry) will never materialize. East can
only get 2S, 3H, 2D.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: 东打不成3NT吧? 南首攻CAK, 转攻S脱手, 以后总可以吃到DAQ和HQ,
: 所以东最多打2NT, 还得看他有没有D8.
: 假设东有D8, 他在上面的防御之后,
: 总可以拔了SAK, 然后DJ送出, 南如果吃进, 只能回D,
: 东吃进后, 把DT铲下, 拔了D, 最后在H上投入南.
: 南如果不吃DJ, 东可以打小H, 南必须吃, 但吃完了还是被投入. 所以只要东有D8,
: 总可以打2NT.
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 8 是. 最后没有针对南的终局. 即使HT吃进回S也不灵. 南永远可以用
第三个D脱手, 等吃HJ.
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: It seems a low Heart lead would beat 2NT. Although it gives up a 3rd H, now
: the end play (which will give W an entry) will never materialize. East can
: only get 2S, 3H, 2D.
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 9 A D lead would break up the endplay in D and. When East gets in 1st time, he
can simply play DJ to knockout the DA. When get in second time, E can cash
trump (so south cannot ruff C) and cash D, and give E a D ruff if the D8's in
south's hand. NS can get no more than 3S, 2C, and 2D.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: 南大概可以打2S
: 首攻S最严厉,
: 东吃住SQ, 现在回C最严厉, 假设东回C, 南拔了CAK, 回HQ,
: 东吃进后只好回DJ, 南吃进, H ruff, 出C,
: 1东可以垫D, 南ruff, 再H, ruff, D到DA, H ruff.
: 现在取到CAK, DAQ, 3 H ruff, 1 个C ruff.
: 2东可以垫H, 南ruff, H, ruff, 北出小将牌, , 东被投入, 他最好的选择是DK,
: 南吃进, 打H, 西将吃, 北就超吃, 这样, 南北得到: 3D, 2C, C ruff, 2S
: 如果西垫牌, 北也垫一个C, 东可以王吃, 给搭档一个D王吃, 但是东西也只能得:
: 1H, 4个S.
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 10 2D 大概也不行. 那只好打1S 了.
1S 大概总可以.
1NT 在D首攻后大概也难成.
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: A D lead would break up the endplay in D and. When East gets in 1st time, he
: can simply play DJ to knockout the DA. When get in second time, E can cash
: trump (so south cannot ruff C) and cash D, and give E a D ruff if the D8's in
: south's hand. NS can get no more than 3S, 2C, and 2D.
| | | g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 11 1. Agree, N-S can't make 2S.
2. There is no way that N-S can make 2NT
West lead a spade to East, East exit with C; South can do nothing to prvent
E-W get: 3S, 2H, and another one in either heart, diamond or club.
Key point is: East has club and H9 two exits, South have no appropriate way
to defend this.
in
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: A D lead would break up the endplay in D and. When East gets in 1st time, he
: can simply play DJ to knockout the DA. When get in second time, E can cash
: trump (so south cannot ruff C) and cash D, and give E a D ruff if the D8's in
: south's hand. NS can get no more than 3S, 2C, and 2D.
| g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 12 If west lead D, South can make 1NT --
1. South cash DAQ, CAK, exit with a D.
2. East can cash 2D, then he can only play H/S; if play S, that's suicide; if
play H, he must play 9 or X, South take with Q, then play spade small to
dummy's Q, after East take with A, he's end played either in spade or heart.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: 2D 大概也不行. 那只好打1S 了.
: 1S 大概总可以.
: 1NT 在D首攻后大概也难成.
| g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 13 To defend N-S 1NT, perhaps spade lead is the killer. After a spade lead, South
can make 1NT only if he has D8, otherwise, he can't.
if
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】
: If west lead D, South can make 1NT --
: 1. South cash DAQ, CAK, exit with a D.
: 2. East can cash 2D, then he can only play H/S; if play S, that's suicide; if
: play H, he must play 9 or X, South take with Q, then play spade small to
: dummy's Q, after East take with A, he's end played either in spade or heart.
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 14 东在吃进D后, 拔完D, 拔了SAK, 低引H啊...
【在 g**********y 的大作中提到】
: If west lead D, South can make 1NT --
: 1. South cash DAQ, CAK, exit with a D.
: 2. East can cash 2D, then he can only play H/S; if play S, that's suicide; if
: play H, he must play 9 or X, South take with Q, then play spade small to
: dummy's Q, after East take with A, he's end played either in spade or heart.
| g**********y
发帖数: 14569 | 15 You are right, I didn't think of that.
if
heart.
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: 东在吃进D后, 拔完D, 拔了SAK, 低引H啊...
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 16 1S is cold by South, but 2S by north is cold now that DT is not through, East
will be endplayed eventually there.
he
in
【在 c****u 的大作中提到】
: 2D 大概也不行. 那只好打1S 了.
: 1S 大概总可以.
: 1NT 在D首攻后大概也难成.
| w****b
发帖数: 623 | 17 I'm probably wrong here. It looks East can keep leading D and give west a D
ruff.
Now the D contract by North looks attracting. 8 tricks might be possible --
the best East can do is to lead DK and then DJ, but East will be endplayed
twice then.
East
time,
cash
D8's
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: 1S is cold by South, but 2S by north is cold now that DT is not through, East
: will be endplayed eventually there.
:
: he
: in
| c****u
发帖数: 3277 | 18 hehe, using DF will be easier and more reliable.
【在 w****b 的大作中提到】
: I'm probably wrong here. It looks East can keep leading D and give west a D
: ruff.
: Now the D contract by North looks attracting. 8 tricks might be possible --
: the best East can do is to lead DK and then DJ, but East will be endplayed
: twice then.
:
: East
: time,
: cash
: D8's
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