c********d
发帖数: 85 | 1 To better understand the reasons behind Rao and Shi's return to China, one
might want to read the below old story first.
Neuroscientists see red over Dalai Lama
Nature 436, 452 (28 July 2005)
http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.02/dalai.html
When I first saw the story when it happened, I admired Rao and all the
Chinese scholars who put their names there open in public, at the danger of
being retaliated by politics among their colleagues holding opposite views
and hiding in the dark. I thought Rao and Shi might have to pay a price for
speaking out. So it didn't surprise me that rumors came out that Rao was not
picked to be the Dean of Columbia Medical School. It also seemed natural to
me that Rao and Shi, etc later decided to return to China to help build
Neuroscience in China.
If one has confronted the prejudices in America against China/Chinese, he/
she will know how hard it is to defend China from malicious, unjustified
attacks (Certainly some criticisms on China are correct and justified). If
you are in positions like Rao, Shi, etc where they have reached the glass
ceiling and where racial politics among brainwashed "liberal" professors
become unbearable, you'll understand their passion for helping China.
How bad are the racial politics among top universities? Here is an example.
Shing-Tung Yau is the only Fields Medal winner in Harvard Math Dept. But Yau
is not a University Professor at Harvard, the highest professorship there.
But there have always been at least one Black person in Afrian American
Studies holding this prestigious title. Yau was rarely given any honorary
Doctor degrees by any U.S. universities. But Harvard and many top schools
give out honorary Doctors to Blacks every year.
We need more people like Yau, Rao, Shi, etc to help China, even if they are
American citizens. They are best qualified for power to initiate changes/
reforms. Yes, many of them have strong personalities, but which academic/
political leader doesn't? |
l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 2 You are so good at fantasizing!! Rao to be the dean of Columbia P&S? He is
not suitable to be a program director or department chair. He was asked to
voluntarily resign or being expelled from Northwestern for misconduct. He
chose voluntary resignation.
"So it didn't surprise me that rumors came out that Rao was not
picked to be the Dean of Columbia Medical School."
of
for
not
【在 c********d 的大作中提到】
: To better understand the reasons behind Rao and Shi's return to China, one
: might want to read the below old story first.
: Neuroscientists see red over Dalai Lama
: Nature 436, 452 (28 July 2005)
: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.02/dalai.html
: When I first saw the story when it happened, I admired Rao and all the
: Chinese scholars who put their names there open in public, at the danger of
: being retaliated by politics among their colleagues holding opposite views
: and hiding in the dark. I thought Rao and Shi might have to pay a price for
: speaking out. So it didn't surprise me that rumors came out that Rao was not
|
M*****n
发帖数: 16729 | 3 Rao Yi在西北犯了事儿?
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】
: You are so good at fantasizing!! Rao to be the dean of Columbia P&S? He is
: not suitable to be a program director or department chair. He was asked to
: voluntarily resign or being expelled from Northwestern for misconduct. He
: chose voluntary resignation.
: "So it didn't surprise me that rumors came out that Rao was not
: picked to be the Dean of Columbia Medical School."
:
: of
: for
: not
|
l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 4 I won't go into details. Northwestern didn't even give him a one-year
adjunct appointment for him to wrap things up. As a comparison, Xin-yuan Fu
was asked to leave Yale but given a non-faculty academic appointment for
transition.
【在 M*****n 的大作中提到】
: Rao Yi在西北犯了事儿?
|
M*****n
发帖数: 16729 | 5 造假？
Fu当初从Yale 出来时啥事儿？
Fu
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】
: I won't go into details. Northwestern didn't even give him a one-year
: adjunct appointment for him to wrap things up. As a comparison, Xin-yuan Fu
: was asked to leave Yale but given a non-faculty academic appointment for
: transition.
|
l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 6 Fu was given a title of "associate research scientist." Other details are
well known to many. If you know some Chinese professors well, you can try to ask them about the incident. It's not about academic or scientific conduct.
【在 M*****n 的大作中提到】
: 造假？
: Fu当初从Yale 出来时啥事儿？
:
: Fu
|
l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 7 Your POS is full of factual errors. Shame on you.
of
for
not
【在 c********d 的大作中提到】
: To better understand the reasons behind Rao and Shi's return to China, one
: might want to read the below old story first.
: Neuroscientists see red over Dalai Lama
: Nature 436, 452 (28 July 2005)
: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.02/dalai.html
: When I first saw the story when it happened, I admired Rao and all the
: Chinese scholars who put their names there open in public, at the danger of
: being retaliated by politics among their colleagues holding opposite views
: and hiding in the dark. I thought Rao and Shi might have to pay a price for
: speaking out. So it didn't surprise me that rumors came out that Rao was not
|
t****p
发帖数: 1504 | 8 Do you want to indicate something unrelated from that "incident"? Shame!
Fu
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】
: I won't go into details. Northwestern didn't even give him a one-year
: adjunct appointment for him to wrap things up. As a comparison, Xin-yuan Fu
: was asked to leave Yale but given a non-faculty academic appointment for
: transition.
|
e***g
发帖数: 1696 | 9 同问, Rao的老婆还是西北的faculty吧
is
to
He
【在 M*****n 的大作中提到】
: Rao Yi在西北犯了事儿?
|
l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 10 Fu's shameful incident prevented him from getting a faculty position for
more than 2 years. Rao's shameful incidents would have prevented him to find
a faculty position in a reputable university for much longer in the U.S.
How wonderful that Rao is your hero!
【在 t****p 的大作中提到】
: Do you want to indicate something unrelated from that "incident"? Shame!
:
: Fu
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|
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b****n
发帖数: 311 | 11 说哥大想找绕当dean, 打死我也不信。
可你说绕在西北犯事被逐，这也是造谣吧。饶以前西北实验室的学生我恰巧还是认识一
个的。绕的钱和学生转到他老婆实验室不是什么秘密吧，他不需要再兼个adjunct.
看看这个报道 http://www.sciencenet.cn/m/user_content.aspx?id=209453
绕自己说“2007年我回国后，在西北大学的系主任非常希望我回去，这段内疚也一直寄
存在心理，因为我在美国时，他对我的帮助太多了。”你要说绕被逐后还编造系主任希
望他回去，这可能性比你造谣小太多太多了。华人生物圈子可不大。你造谣也得有个限
度吧。
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】
: You are so good at fantasizing!! Rao to be the dean of Columbia P&S? He is
: not suitable to be a program director or department chair. He was asked to
: voluntarily resign or being expelled from Northwestern for misconduct. He
: chose voluntary resignation.
: "So it didn't surprise me that rumors came out that Rao was not
: picked to be the Dean of Columbia Medical School."
:
: of
: for
: not
|
l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 12 他在国内想怎么吹怎么吹。Fu自己的学生在Fu被驱逐的时候也不知道什么原因。
【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: 说哥大想找绕当dean, 打死我也不信。
: 可你说绕在西北犯事被逐，这也是造谣吧。饶以前西北实验室的学生我恰巧还是认识一
: 个的。绕的钱和学生转到他老婆实验室不是什么秘密吧，他不需要再兼个adjunct.
: 看看这个报道 http://www.sciencenet.cn/m/user_content.aspx?id=209453
: 绕自己说“2007年我回国后，在西北大学的系主任非常希望我回去，这段内疚也一直寄
: 存在心理，因为我在美国时，他对我的帮助太多了。”你要说绕被逐后还编造系主任希
: 望他回去，这可能性比你造谣小太多太多了。华人生物圈子可不大。你造谣也得有个限
: 度吧。
|
b****n
发帖数: 311 | 13 是你想怎么编就怎么编吧。
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】
: 他在国内想怎么吹怎么吹。Fu自己的学生在Fu被驱逐的时候也不知道什么原因。
|
l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 14 当dean的事也是Rao自己放出来的，说因为政治原因最后没当上。
【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: 说哥大想找绕当dean, 打死我也不信。
: 可你说绕在西北犯事被逐，这也是造谣吧。饶以前西北实验室的学生我恰巧还是认识一
: 个的。绕的钱和学生转到他老婆实验室不是什么秘密吧，他不需要再兼个adjunct.
: 看看这个报道 http://www.sciencenet.cn/m/user_content.aspx?id=209453
: 绕自己说“2007年我回国后，在西北大学的系主任非常希望我回去，这段内疚也一直寄
: 存在心理，因为我在美国时，他对我的帮助太多了。”你要说绕被逐后还编造系主任希
: 望他回去，这可能性比你造谣小太多太多了。华人生物圈子可不大。你造谣也得有个限
: 度吧。
|
b****n
发帖数: 311 | 15 你就说绕在西北翻了啥事，西北的处理决定是什么，我自有渠道核实，不用遮遮掩掩的。
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】
: 当dean的事也是Rao自己放出来的，说因为政治原因最后没当上。
|
l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 16 随便，我纠正别人在某些行当的工资上的瞎说八道的时候，别人在这个版上也是跟你一
样说的。
【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: 是你想怎么编就怎么编吧。
|
l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 17 你自个儿问去。
的。
【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: 你就说绕在西北翻了啥事，西北的处理决定是什么，我自有渠道核实，不用遮遮掩掩的。
|
b****n
发帖数: 311 | 18 别人干我屁事，瞎扯啥？
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】
: 随便，我纠正别人在某些行当的工资上的瞎说八道的时候，别人在这个版上也是跟你一
: 样说的。
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b****n
发帖数: 311 | 19 你不是号称知道详情么？我有没有要你真名实姓暴露，怕啥？这也不是你第一次造谣了
吧。
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】
: 你自个儿问去。
:
: 的。
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l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 20 我在这个版上还没说过没有依据的事。你们也就成天瞎咋呼。
【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: 别人干我屁事，瞎扯啥？
|
|
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b****n
发帖数: 311 | 21 我不就问你依据是什么吗？你尽东拉西扯，拍胸脯说有，可半天也没见点依据的影。
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】
: 我在这个版上还没说过没有依据的事。你们也就成天瞎咋呼。
|
l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 22 我知道详情为什么要告诉你？不符合你心中所想就是造谣？
【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: 你不是号称知道详情么？我有没有要你真名实姓暴露，怕啥？这也不是你第一次造谣了
: 吧。
|
l*h
发帖数: 4124 | 23 你自己去问他们的discipline committee就行了，别在这里瞎扯。
【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: 我不就问你依据是什么吗？你尽东拉西扯，拍胸脯说有，可半天也没见点依据的影。
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b****n
发帖数: 311 | 24 你告诉我会死啊？造一个谣要用更多的谣来自圆其说超出你的能力了吧。
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】
: 我知道详情为什么要告诉你？不符合你心中所想就是造谣？
|
t****p
发帖数: 1504 | 25 你也太有八卦心态来吧。
重要的不是这个八卦，而是有人想从中质疑饶的回国动机，其心可鄙！
【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: 你告诉我会死啊？造一个谣要用更多的谣来自圆其说超出你的能力了吧。
|
b****n
发帖数: 311 | 26 俺不是八卦，俺恰巧知道这厮造谣，一追问就显形了。华人生物圈并不大，绕要是犯事被逐，根本瞒不了这么久。美国这些报道s&R回国的报道也不会错过这等打脸的好料。
【在 t****p 的大作中提到】
: 你也太有八卦心态来吧。
: 重要的不是这个八卦，而是有人想从中质疑饶的回国动机，其心可鄙！
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c********d
发帖数: 85 | 27 Show me facts. Or you SOB just shut the fuck up!! Stop the rumor mongering!!
Is it wrong for Rao to say he wasn't picked due to politics?? From what I
know about politics in American academia, that's entirely possible. Read
this where Rao spoke out again:
http://sciencecareers.sciencemag.org/career_magazine/previous_issues/articles/2005_11_04/noDOI.12910840254141366710
A Glass Ceiling for Asian Scientists?
Rao was very outspoken, thus caused lots of hatred among certain Americans
and Chinese SOB's. Yes, that includes you!!
After this article came out, Columbia might've considered to pick Rao as
Dean to show diversity and fairness to Asian scholars, but Rao's foes might'
ve forced Columbia to drop him for someone else.
What are the credentials for Condy Rice to be picked as Standford Provost
and then National Security Advisor? The then-Stanford-president admitted to
NYTimes that because she's black and a female.
Now go eat your shit!!
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】
: Your POS is full of factual errors. Shame on you.
:
: of
: for
: not
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c*******n
发帖数: 300 | 28 2006年年底，西北nuin的director不做了。接下来diector和assoicated director都重
新进行了推荐和选举。 2007年年底，饶毅才离开西北。
Fu
【在 l*h 的大作中提到】
: I won't go into details. Northwestern didn't even give him a one-year
: adjunct appointment for him to wrap things up. As a comparison, Xin-yuan Fu
: was asked to leave Yale but given a non-faculty academic appointment for
: transition.
|
e****e
发帖数: 3450 | 29 who is his wife?
【在 e***g 的大作中提到】
: 同问, Rao的老婆还是西北的faculty吧
:
: is
: to
: He
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h****u
发帖数: 480 | 30
which one? :)
【在 e****e 的大作中提到】
: who is his wife?
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j**********k
发帖数: 296 | 31 support lz. plus, if his so-called "scandal" is not scientific misconduct,
who cares? don't bring personal issues into business, go get a life
of
for
not
【在 c********d 的大作中提到】
: To better understand the reasons behind Rao and Shi's return to China, one
: might want to read the below old story first.
: Neuroscientists see red over Dalai Lama
: Nature 436, 452 (28 July 2005)
: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.02/dalai.html
: When I first saw the story when it happened, I admired Rao and all the
: Chinese scholars who put their names there open in public, at the danger of
: being retaliated by politics among their colleagues holding opposite views
: and hiding in the dark. I thought Rao and Shi might have to pay a price for
: speaking out. So it didn't surprise me that rumors came out that Rao was not
|
L******e
发帖数: 679 | 32 Please Do NOT argue with our SUPERNIU: Mr. lmh. He knows everything!
faint,你这不是故意扇超级大牛lmh的大耳光嘛？
超级大牛lmh说了， 临床检验员薪水就是4万多，
说出别的数字都是瞎掰
【在 b****n 的大作中提到】
: 你不是号称知道详情么？我有没有要你真名实姓暴露，怕啥？这也不是你第一次造谣了
: 吧。
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a*****t
发帖数: 81 | 33 correct me if i am wrong. but shing-tung yau is listed as full professor at
harvar
law school http://math.harvard.edu/people/YauShing-Tung.html.
of
for
not
【在 c********d 的大作中提到】
: To better understand the reasons behind Rao and Shi's return to China, one
: might want to read the below old story first.
: Neuroscientists see red over Dalai Lama
: Nature 436, 452 (28 July 2005)
: http://www.wired.com/wired/archive/14.02/dalai.html
: When I first saw the story when it happened, I admired Rao and all the
: Chinese scholars who put their names there open in public, at the danger of
: being retaliated by politics among their colleagues holding opposite views
: and hiding in the dark. I thought Rao and Shi might have to pay a price for
: speaking out. So it didn't surprise me that rumors came out that Rao was not
|
d********r
发帖数: 3279 | 34 If you guys know who lmh is, you would not be surprised why he knows so much
about misconduct. He himself was asked to voluntarily resign or being
expelled for misconduct. He didn't even get a one-year
adjunct appointment for him to wrap things up. his shameful incident
prevented him from getting a faculty position in a reputable university for
in the U.S.
I won't go into details. But lmh knows what I am talking about. |
c********d
发帖数: 85 | 35 Tenured full professors have many different categories. Endowed chairs/
professorships are more prestigious. The best at Harvard are University
Professors:
http://www.harvard.edu/about/university_professors.php
Alphonse Fletcher University Professor, Henry Louis Gates, Jr., is the black
professor that got into argument with police last year.
MIT has Institute Professors:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Institute_Professors_at_the_Massachusetts_Institute_of_Technology
at
【在 a*****t 的大作中提到】
: correct me if i am wrong. but shing-tung yau is listed as full professor at
: harvar
: law school http://math.harvard.edu/people/YauShing-Tung.html.
:
: of
: for
: not
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m*****s
发帖数: 2227 | 36 Buddha on the Brain ??? |
