L***M 发帖数: 396 | 1 下班回来晚了,看到大家的踊跃回帖,还挺高兴的。就像我之前说的,我参加job fair
就是想帮助正在读书和找工作的中国同学,给他们点信心,写这个帖子也是。找工作现
在是难,但是积极的准备,不管自己找不找得到满意的工作,这种准备的过程也可以让
人成熟长大的过程。
我的本意不是强调job fair如何重要或者是job fair里的staff能
起到什么作用,我是想说在找工的过程中如何present自己,如果present不好自己,即
便是Interview被选中,Personal /communication skill不够,面试的成功几率也不大
,即便有一个Interviewer喜欢,也不一定每个Interviewer都喜欢。job fair staff/
job fair当然不起决定作用,不过the way you present yourself, the way you
make people feel what kind of person you are是一种很重要的skill。中国人干活
扎实,但是很多不怎么擅长如何present自己,美国小孩就是有这方面的特长,那我们 |
s****y 发帖数: 561 | 2 谢谢mm,写的真好,也很中肯
能不能举例几个你觉得比较impressive的人或者事,谢谢
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【在 L***M 的大作中提到】 : 下班回来晚了,看到大家的踊跃回帖,还挺高兴的。就像我之前说的,我参加job fair : 就是想帮助正在读书和找工作的中国同学,给他们点信心,写这个帖子也是。找工作现 : 在是难,但是积极的准备,不管自己找不找得到满意的工作,这种准备的过程也可以让 : 人成熟长大的过程。 : 我的本意不是强调job fair如何重要或者是job fair里的staff能 : 起到什么作用,我是想说在找工的过程中如何present自己,如果present不好自己,即 : 便是Interview被选中,Personal /communication skill不够,面试的成功几率也不大 : ,即便有一个Interviewer喜欢,也不一定每个Interviewer都喜欢。job fair staff/ : job fair当然不起决定作用,不过the way you present yourself, the way you : make people feel what kind of person you are是一种很重要的skill。中国人干活
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f******d 发帖数: 202 | 4 我同意楼主关于到JOB FAIR练习练习的意见.但作用可能也不太大.尤其是对四大.我去
过两次,四大都是要求在网上投简历,而且是校园内.当时的代表收下简历,我怀疑他们会
带回去给HR的人.而且来校园的代表都是从NYC来的.(我们不在CITY).跟本地的OFFICE都
不着边. (也许我猜想错了).
但是楼主很多细节的提醒和建议很有启发和学习的意义.
谢谢,期待三四五......
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【在 L***M 的大作中提到】 : 下班回来晚了,看到大家的踊跃回帖,还挺高兴的。就像我之前说的,我参加job fair : 就是想帮助正在读书和找工作的中国同学,给他们点信心,写这个帖子也是。找工作现 : 在是难,但是积极的准备,不管自己找不找得到满意的工作,这种准备的过程也可以让 : 人成熟长大的过程。 : 我的本意不是强调job fair如何重要或者是job fair里的staff能 : 起到什么作用,我是想说在找工的过程中如何present自己,如果present不好自己,即 : 便是Interview被选中,Personal /communication skill不够,面试的成功几率也不大 : ,即便有一个Interviewer喜欢,也不一定每个Interviewer都喜欢。job fair staff/ : job fair当然不起决定作用,不过the way you present yourself, the way you : make people feel what kind of person you are是一种很重要的skill。中国人干活
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t****l 发帖数: 149 | 5 惨了,我刚在面试时问了我面试官英文会不会是一个重要的障碍。楼主应该早点发这篇
文章啊,呜呜 |
b*****d 发帖数: 184 | 6 我有两次这样的经验,都没让他们到下一轮。明显不知道什么是可以问的,什么是不可
以问的。。。不敢带这样的去见客户
这好象是common sense吧,还怕 potential employer 没发现你的缺点啊?
【在 t****l 的大作中提到】 : 惨了,我刚在面试时问了我面试官英文会不会是一个重要的障碍。楼主应该早点发这篇 : 文章啊,呜呜
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p**z 发帖数: 1311 | 7 问了问题之后
听了别人回答 还要根据别人回答 而继续下一个问题 去continue the conversation.
我当年见面第一个问题是
1. How do you like what you do?
a. love it, b.like it. c.it's ok(=hate it)
2. So what part of the job do you like(not like) the most?
a. the people b.the firm culture c. the work(this is a lie)
if a. ask why, and who are the people.
b. ask what specific part
c. tell them you did your research, and the work is super boring.
then, depending on what they say, try to bring something up of your own (for
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t****l 发帖数: 149 | 8 我是真心想知道英文不好会不会成为一个工作的障碍,也没觉得这是common sense啊,
大概我这个人真的是没啥面试经验,下次记得就是。
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】 : 我有两次这样的经验,都没让他们到下一轮。明显不知道什么是可以问的,什么是不可 : 以问的。。。不敢带这样的去见客户 : 这好象是common sense吧,还怕 potential employer 没发现你的缺点啊?
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b*****d 发帖数: 184 | 9 Yes, it will significantly limit your growth potential. Remember, during
the interview, you want to emphasize on your strengths as much as possible,
giving the company reasons to hire you. If you discuss your "real" concerns
and weaknesses, this may be used by the hiring managers to reject you. 也许
你太老实了吧。。。
The jobs at Big 4 are client facing roles...language is very very important.
However, that does not mean you have to speak perfect English...(of course
, that would not hurt)...it is more
【在 t****l 的大作中提到】 : 我是真心想知道英文不好会不会成为一个工作的障碍,也没觉得这是common sense啊, : 大概我这个人真的是没啥面试经验,下次记得就是。
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q*p 发帖数: 6 | 10 这次EY第一轮面试我一上来就开自己语言的玩笑,我说我名字正确发音是这样的,以前
office的人经常imitate我的accent,尝试用正确发音发我的名字,但是最后都放弃了
,我知道他们已经很努力啦~~~
后面有提到我的语言,我说你可能觉得我语言不足以好到跟客户打交道,但是你知道有
些东西,比如性格,智商是不能马上built up的,但是有些东西却可以,而且我觉得我
自己有很好的communication skill,通过充足的knowledge,logical thinking
ability,我知道有很多语言很好的人不知道怎么communicate,而且我有很好的
potential足以证明以后我会说的perfect
successfully get into the second round....
,
concerns
important.
course
,
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】 : Yes, it will significantly limit your growth potential. Remember, during : the interview, you want to emphasize on your strengths as much as possible, : giving the company reasons to hire you. If you discuss your "real" concerns : and weaknesses, this may be used by the hiring managers to reject you. 也许 : 你太老实了吧。。。 : The jobs at Big 4 are client facing roles...language is very very important. : However, that does not mean you have to speak perfect English...(of course : , that would not hurt)...it is more
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p**z 发帖数: 1311 | 11 good example of how you can take something bad and turn it into something
good about you.
that actually shows you are very confident, you can joke about yourself.
big4 like this kinda personality la.
the earlier example was more the opposite..... |
t****l 发帖数: 149 | 12 yeah, I got it. I totally screwed it up by asking that stupid question.
But do you really think it is necessary to point it out again for me?
Thanks anyway.
【在 p**z 的大作中提到】 : good example of how you can take something bad and turn it into something : good about you. : that actually shows you are very confident, you can joke about yourself. : big4 like this kinda personality la. : the earlier example was more the opposite.....
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b*****d 发帖数: 184 | 13 没有关系,我们都是这样过来的。。。脸皮厚一点就好了
不要太在意你有口音,我也有口音,但我讲的很流利,所以我也没觉得我交流有问题。
老美有时也有交流问题,以前有一老美manager report给我。有一天partner来找我,
跟我讲客户抱怨这个manager,说她交流有问题,让我mentor她一下,如果一个月还不
把关系搞好,just get her off the project. I had quite a few conversations
with her and realized she had some attitude problem. Many times what she said
was correct, but she just didn't present it the right way. 我简直就是手把手
的教她,在什么样的情况下要讲什么样的话。这个manager干活还是不错的,后来改进很
多,和客户关系也好多了。The point is you will get better over time as long
as you are willing
【在 t****l 的大作中提到】 : yeah, I got it. I totally screwed it up by asking that stupid question. : But do you really think it is necessary to point it out again for me? : Thanks anyway.
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F******e 发帖数: 3967 | 14 NY人本身都有口音还有听不懂的话.
昨天老板说了一句话我楞是没听懂.
我问他一个同事去吃饭不,他说.NOPE, MRS PUT A KIBOSH ON IT.
我马上问谁是MRS KIBOSH.
他的意思是说同事不去吃饭了,因为同事的太太不同意.
PUT A KIBOSH ON SOMETHING = PUT A STOP ON SOMETHING
said
进很
【在 b*****d 的大作中提到】 : 没有关系,我们都是这样过来的。。。脸皮厚一点就好了 : 不要太在意你有口音,我也有口音,但我讲的很流利,所以我也没觉得我交流有问题。 : 老美有时也有交流问题,以前有一老美manager report给我。有一天partner来找我, : 跟我讲客户抱怨这个manager,说她交流有问题,让我mentor她一下,如果一个月还不 : 把关系搞好,just get her off the project. I had quite a few conversations : with her and realized she had some attitude problem. Many times what she said : was correct, but she just didn't present it the right way. 我简直就是手把手 : 的教她,在什么样的情况下要讲什么样的话。这个manager干活还是不错的,后来改进很 : 多,和客户关系也好多了。The point is you will get better over time as long : as you are willing
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b*****d 发帖数: 184 | 15 NY口音还算比较好听的,也许是我听习惯了,起码比Boston和Canada的口音好听...I
love to say "Lawn Guyland"...(Long Island)
Kibosh = No
刚来美国的时候和朋友去看棒球,到7th inning, 我们已经落后很多,我说咱们走吧,
她讲“It ain't over til the fat lady sings”。。。I was like "what? a fat
lady's gonna sing?..." She laughed like I was an idiot...then she told me it means the game is not over yet...
【在 F******e 的大作中提到】 : NY人本身都有口音还有听不懂的话. : 昨天老板说了一句话我楞是没听懂. : 我问他一个同事去吃饭不,他说.NOPE, MRS PUT A KIBOSH ON IT. : 我马上问谁是MRS KIBOSH. : 他的意思是说同事不去吃饭了,因为同事的太太不同意. : PUT A KIBOSH ON SOMETHING = PUT A STOP ON SOMETHING : : said : 进很
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