D*****r
发帖数: 6791 | 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DhtcaRRngcw
There's a man going around taking names
And he decides who to free and who to blame
Everybody won't be treated all the same
There'll be a golden ladder reaching down
When the Man comes around
The hairs on your arm will stand up
At the terror in each sip and in each sup
Will you partake of that last offered cup?
Or disappear into the potter's ground
When the Man comes around
Hear the trumpets, hear the pipers
One hundred million angels singing
Multitudes... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 2 Unfulfilled prophecies
1，God promises that the Jews will never lose their land or be disturbed
again.
And I will provide a place for my people Israel and will plant them so that
they can have a home of their own and no
longer be disturbed. Wicked people will not oppress them anymore, as they
did at the beginning and have done ever
since the time I appointed leaders over my people Israel. I will also give
you rest from all your enemies... (2 Samuel
7:10-11)
And I will provide a place for my peopl... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 3 好奇一下，许多是多少个?
New International Version (©1984)
When God saw what they did and how they turned from their evil ways, he had
compassion and did not bring upon
them the destruction he had threatened.
New Living Translation (©2007)
When God saw what they had done and how they had put a stop to their evil
ways, he changed his mind and did not
carry out the destruction he had threatened.
English Standard Version (©2001)
When God saw what they did, how they turned from their evil way, Go... 阅读全帖 |
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G*M
发帖数: 6042 | 4 Bible Course - Christian Doctrine
Lesson 2
The Misery of Man
Lord's Day II-IV
Lord's Day II-IV are the first part of the Heidelberg Catechism. Questions 3
-11 are dealt with here. In this part, the misery of man comes up for
discussion.
Lord's Day II
Q. 3.Whence knowest thou thy misery?
Answ. Out of the Law of God. (a).
(a) Rom.3:20
What is misery?
What actually is misery? It means that we are in a wretched or extremely
unhappy situation. There are many examples: war, hunger, quarreling,
unemplo... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 5 By Tony Nungesser and Gary Amirault
The entire concept of eternal or everlasting punishment hinges primarily on
a single verse of Scripture--Matthew 25:46. This is the only place in the en
tire Bible where we find these two words together AND only in some Bibles. T
here are over a dozen English translations which do NOT contain the concept
of "eternal punishment" on ANY of their pages, NOR the pagan concept of Hell
.
The Greek form for "everlasting punishment" in Matthew 25:46 is "kolasin aio
ni... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 6 The concept of a burning Hell where people are tortured eternally, is often
thought of as a Bible teaching. It isn't. Rather, the whole concept of a Hel
l as people see it today, where the bad are sent to an underground world tha
t is ruled by an evil God, comes from a misunderstanding of the pagan Greek
Mythology of Hades, the River Styx, and the God Pluto. For if you read Greek
mythology, you'll see that Hades was never a place of torture, but simply t
he place where the dead go to be judged. ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 7 http://www.thercg.org/questions/p111.a.html#c
Revelation 14:11.
This verse states, and the smoke of their torment ascends up for ever and ev
er.Some erroneously believe this is referring to souls burning forever in
hell.
The time frame of what is described here is yet to come. The passage is refe
rring to 揃abylon(Rev. 14:8), 搕hat great city, because she made all natio
ns drink of卙er fornication.This is the final, religious/political,end-璽
ime revival of the Roman Empire also described in Daniel ... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 8 http://www.tentmaker.org/articles/EternalPunishmentNotTrueToGre
By Tony Nungesser and Gary Amirault
The entire concept of eternal or everlasting punishment hinges primarily on
a single verse of Scripture--Matthew 25:46. This is the only place in the en
tire Bible where we find these two words together AND only in some Bibles. T
here are over a dozen English translations which do NOT contain the concept
of "eternal punishment" on ANY of their pages, NOR the pagan concept of Hell
.
The Greek form ... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******e
发帖数: 6802 | 9 发信人: whiterose (抱抱熊和胖胖鱼), 信区: BibleStudy
标 题: Re: 【一年精读圣经】7/2 箴言 第二章
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sat Jul 2 00:07:17 2011, 美东)
Proverbs 2
Moral Benefits of Wisdom
1 My son, if you accept my words
and store up my commands within you,
2 turning your ear to wisdom
and applying your heart to understanding—
3 indeed, if you call out for insight
and cry aloud for understanding,
4 and if you look for it as for silver
and search for it as for hidden treasure,
5 then you will understand the fear of the ... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******e
发帖数: 6802 | 10 发信人: whiterose (抱抱熊和胖胖鱼), 信区: BibleStudy
标 题: Re: 【一年精读圣经】7/3 箴言 第3章
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Sun Jul 3 08:10:56 2011, 美东)
Proverbs 3
Wisdom Bestows Well-Being
1 My son, do not forget my teaching,
but keep my commands in your heart,
2 for they will prolong your life many years
and bring you peace and prosperity.
3 Let love and faithfulness never leave you;
bind them around your neck,
write them on the tablet of your heart.
4 Then you will win favor and a good name
in the sight of God and... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******e
发帖数: 6802 | 11 发信人: whiterose (抱抱熊和胖胖鱼), 信区: BibleStudy
标 题: Re: 【一年精读圣经】7/4 箴言 第4章
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Jul 4 07:30:00 2011, 美东)
Proverbs 4
Get Wisdom at Any Cost
1 Listen, my sons, to a father’s instruction;
pay attention and gain understanding.
2 I give you sound learning,
so do not forsake my teaching.
3 For I too was a son to my father,
still tender, and cherished by my mother.
4 Then he taught me, and he said to me,
“Take hold of my words with all your heart;
keep my commands, and you wil... 阅读全帖 |
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C****i
发帖数: 1776 | 12 CHAPTER III
Of God’s Eternal Decree
I. God, from all eternity, did, by the most wise and holy counsel of his own
will, freely, and unchangeably ordain whatsoever comes to pass:[65] yet so,
as thereby neither is God the author of sin,[66] nor is violence offered to
the will of the creatures; nor is the liberty or contingency of second caus
es taken away, but rather established.[67]
II. Although God knows whatsoever may or can come to pass upon all supposed
conditions,[68] yet hath he not decreed ... 阅读全帖 |
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G*******s
发帖数: 4956 | 13 CHAPTER VI
Of the Fall of Man, of Sin, and of the Punishment Thereof
I. Our first parents, being seduced by the subtlety and temptation of Satan,
sinned, in eating the forbidden fruit.[124] This their sin, God was pleased
, according to his wise and holy counsel, to permit, having purposed to orde
r it to his own glory.[125]
II. By this sin they fell from their original righteousness and communion wi
th God,[126] and so became dead in sin,[127] and wholly defiled in all the p
arts and faculties ... 阅读全帖 |
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C****i
发帖数: 1776 | 14 CHAPTER VIII
Of Christ the Mediator
I. It pleased God, in his eternal purpose, to choose and ordain the Lord Jes
us, his only begotten Son, to be the Mediator between God and man,[162] the
Prophet,[163] Priest,[164] and King,[165] the Head and Savior of his church,
[166] the Heir of all things,[167] and Judge of the world:[168] unto whom he
did from all eternity give a people, to be his seed,[169] and to be by him
in time redeemed, called, justified, sanctified, and glorified.[170]
II. The Son o... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 15 if God don't love the wicked, why the wicked people still have the right to
live on this earth?
,里 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 16 if God don't love the wicked, why the wicked people still have the right to
live on this earth?
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D*****r
发帖数: 6791 | 17 A SPEECH OF Mr. JOHN MILTON
For the Liberty of VNLICENC'D PRINTING,
To the PARLAMENT of ENGLAND.
______________________________________________________________
This is true Liberty when free born men
Having to advise the public may speak free,
Which he who can, and will, deserv's high praise,
Who neither can nor will, may hold his peace;
What can be juster in a State then this?
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 18 Calvinistic view is that God intentionally made all of us so wicked and the
eternal hell is our doomed future.
But Jesus died for the Calvinists. The wicked Calvinists were saved before
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C****i
发帖数: 1776 | 19 CHAPTER XXIX
Of the Lord’s Supper
I. Our Lord Jesus, in the night wherein he was betrayed, instituted the sacr
ament of his body and blood, called the Lord’s Supper, to be observed in hi
s church, unto the end of the world, for the perpetual remembrance of the sa
crifice of himself in his death; the sealing all benefits thereof unto true
believers, their spiritual nourishment and growth in him, their further enga
gement in and to all duties which they owe unto him; and, to be a bond and p
ledge ... 阅读全帖 |
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C****i
发帖数: 1776 | 20 CHAPTER XXXIII
Of the Last Judgment
I. God hath appointed a day, wherein he will judge the world, in righteousne
ss, by Jesus Christ,[573] to whom all power and judgment is given of the Fat
her.[574] In which day, not only the apostate angels shall be judged,[575] b
ut likewise all persons that have lived upon earth shall appear before the t
ribunal of Christ, to give an account of their thoughts, words, and deeds; a
nd to receive according to what they have done in the body, whether good or
evi... 阅读全帖 |
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s***u
发帖数: 1911 | 21 Cited from the book by Dave Hunt
That God the Potter (1) has the right to do with men as He pleases, and (2)
endures with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath we do not deny. That is
all, however, that this passage tells us - it does not tell us what His des
ire is.
Numerous other passages, however, do tell us in the clearest terms that God
desires all to come to repentance and the knowledge of the truth, that He is
not willing that any should perish and takes no pleasure... 阅读全帖 |
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D*****r
发帖数: 6791 | 22 http://www.openbible.info/topics/movies
Titus 2:11-12 ESV / 15 helpful votes
For the grace of God has appeared, bringing salvation for all people,
training us to renounce ungodliness and worldly passions, and to live self-
controlled, upright, and godly lives in the present age,
Colossians 3:5 ESV / 11 helpful votes
Put to death therefore what is earthly in you: sexual immorality, impurity,
passion, evil desire, and covetousness, which is idolatry.
Galatians 5:19-21 ESV / 11 helpful votes
Now th... 阅读全帖 |
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w*******e
发帖数: 6802 | 23 发信人: whiterose (抱抱熊和胖胖鱼), 信区: BibleStudy
标 题: Re: 【7月查经---续】箴言 第17章
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Oct 13 18:38:02 2011, 美东)
Proverbs 17
1 Better a dry crust with peace and quiet
than a house full of feasting, with strife.
2 A prudent servant will rule over a disgraceful son
and will share the inheritance as one of the family.
3 The crucible for silver and the furnace for gold,
but the LORD tests the heart.
4 A wicked person listens to deceitful lips;
a liar pays attention to a destructive ton... 阅读全帖 |
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R*o
发帖数: 3781 | 24 4:3 Picking up on the question of whether Abraham was justified by works (wh
ich some Jews held), Paul says: this is not what the scripture teaches. It t
eaches in Genesis 15:6 that Abraham believed God and it was credited to him
as righteousness (ejpivsteusen deV jAbraaVm tw'/ qew'/ kaiV ejlogivsqh aujtw
'/ eij" dikaiosuvnhn, episteusen de Abraam to theo elogisthe auto eis dikaio
sune). In other words, Abraham was declared righteous by believing God conce
rning the promise for many descendants ... 阅读全帖 |
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s*y
发帖数: 933 | 25 Very enlightening information you provided, but I have a question.
You wrote "According to the account of Genesis 3, man was created with a
holy nature, in fellowship with God, and placed in an environment which was
"all very good"."
Then you wrote "Remember that before Adam sinned, there was already a sinful
creature who was in the Garden of Eden and who was in a fallen and wicked
condition. Who was this creature (Genesis 3:1 and Revelation 12:9)? The
leading of the Angel, Lucifer-Satan."
So, a... 阅读全帖 |
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l**********t
发帖数: 5754 | 26
8. But unto them that are contentious, and do not obey the truth, but obey
unrighteousness, indignation and wrath,
"
8. But to those who are contentious, etc. There is some irregularity in the
passage; first, on account of its tenor being interrupted, for the thread of
the discourse required, that the second clause of the contrast should be
thus connected, — “The Lord will render to them, who by perseverance in
good works, seek glory, and honor, and immortality, eternal life; but to the
content... 阅读全帖 |
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G*******s
发帖数: 4956 | 27 【 以下文字转载自 BibleStudy 俱乐部 】
发信人: Godwithus (神与我们同在), 信区: BibleStudy
标 题: 海德堡要理问答主日03
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu Mar 29 15:06:35 2012, 美东)
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_622134fd01014ogf.html
海德堡要理问答主日03
来自CCWiki华人基督徒百科(Godwithus神同在网)
目录
1 英文版
2 英文2011版
3 赵中辉版
4 钱曜诚版
5 陈达/王志勇版
6 基督教要义圣经课程
7 参考链接
英文版
3. Lord's Day
Q. 6. Did God then create man so wicked and perverse?
A.
By no means;
but God created man good, (a)
and after his own image, (b)
in true righteousness and holiness, that he might rightly know G... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****a
发帖数: 38403 | 28 Bertrand Russell
My conclusion is that there is no reason to believe any of the dogmas of
traditional theology and, further, that there is no reason to wish that they
were true. Man, in so far as he is not subject to natural forces, is free
to work out his own destiny. The responsibility is his, and so is the
opportunity.
I mean by intellectual integrity the habit of deciding vexed questions in
accordance with the evidence, or of leaving them undecided where the
evidence is inconclusive. This vi... 阅读全帖 |
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G*******s
发帖数: 4956 | 29 出 20:7 “不可妄称耶和华你 神的名，因为妄称耶和华名的，耶和华必不以他为无罪
。 申 5:11 “‘不可妄称耶和华你 神的名，因为妄称耶和华名的，耶和华必不以他为
无罪。 (和合本 CUV)
诗 139:20 因为他们说恶言顶撞你，你的仇敌也妄称你的名。 (CUVS)
Ps 139:20 For they speak against thee wickedly, and thine enemies take thy n
ame in vain. (KJV)
诗 9:3 我的仇敌转身退去的时候，他们一见你的面，就跌倒灭亡。 (CUVS)
Ps 9:3 When mine enemies are turned back, they shall fall and perish at thy
presence. (KJV)
诗 37:20 恶人却要灭亡。耶和华的仇敌，要象羊羔的脂油(或作“象草地的华美”)，他
们要消灭，要如烟消灭。 (CUVS)
Ps 37:20 But the wicked shall perish, and the enemies of the LORD shall... 阅读全帖 |
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C****i
发帖数: 1776 | 30 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 问个问题 所以你认为撒但是有来源的是吧？
这点我认同。
那么撒但的来源是什么呢？我们回到圣经就知道了。
在和合本圣经中，撒但总共出现48次
代上 21:1 撒但起来攻击以色列人，激动大卫数点他们。 伯 1:6 有一天， 神的众子
来侍立在耶和华面前，撒但也来在其中。 伯 1:7 耶和华问撒但说：“你从哪里来？”
撒但回答说：“我从地上走来走去，往返而来。” 伯 1:8 耶和华问撒但说：“你曾用
心察看我的仆人约伯没有？地上再没有人象他完全正直，敬畏 神，远离恶事。” 伯
1:9 撒但回答耶和华说：“约伯敬畏 神，岂是无故呢？ 伯 1:12 耶和华对撒但说：“
凡他所有的，都在你手中；只是不可伸手加害于他。”于是撒但从耶和华面前退去。 伯
2:1 又有一天， 神的众子来侍立在耶和华面前，撒但也来在其中。 伯 2:2 耶和华问
撒但说：“你从哪里来？”撒但回答说：“我从地上走来走去，往返而来。” 伯 2:3
耶和华问撒但说：“你曾用心察看我的仆人约伯没有？地上再没有人象他完全正直，敬
畏 神，远离恶事。你虽激动我攻击他，无故地毁灭他；他仍然持守他的纯正。” 伯
2:4 撒但回答耶和华说：“人以皮代皮... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 31 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督版版规 上帝不喜欢恶人受罚，而喜欢恶人悔改。基督徒为啥要赞美上帝自己都不喜欢的事呢？
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
你说到的屠城的圣经上3500年前记载的事。以色列人遵从上帝的旨意去扫平迦南的原住
民。（注意嘁里喀嚓宣传神杀人，是完全错误的。）
屠城的原因是那的人作恶。圣经中已经解释的很清楚。
Leviticus 18中说到迦南人各种乱伦，与邻居发生性行为（对婚姻的不忠），搞同性性
行为，与动物发生性行为，把孩子作为祭品，祭献给迦南人崇拜的偶像神Molek（不是
上帝）。（嘁里喀嚓在为这种人辩解，说上帝对他们不公平。）
惩罚恶人是上帝正直的体现。如果... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 32 来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督版版规 上帝不喜欢恶人受罚，而喜欢恶人悔改。基督徒为啥要赞美上帝自己都不喜欢的事呢？
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
你说到的屠城的圣经上3500年前记载的事。以色列人遵从上帝的旨意去扫平迦南的原住
民。（注意嘁里喀嚓宣传神杀人，是完全错误的。）
屠城的原因是那的人作恶。圣经中已经解释的很清楚。
Leviticus 18中说到迦南人各种乱伦，与邻居发生性行为（对婚姻的不忠），搞同性性
行为，与动物发生性行为，把孩子作为祭品，祭献给迦南人崇拜的偶像神Molek（不是
上帝）。（嘁里喀嚓在为这种人辩解，说上帝对他们不公平。）
惩罚恶人是上帝正直的体现。如果... 阅读全帖 |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 33 跟你说很多遍了，我不赞美神杀恶人。神自己都不喜欢杀恶人我们基督徒为什么要赞美
呢？
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
以 西 結 書 33:11
11 你 对 他 们 说 ， 主 耶 和 华 说 ： 我 指 着 我 的 永 生 起 誓 ， 我 断
不 喜 悦 恶 人 死 亡 ， 惟 喜 悦 恶 人 转 离 所 行 的 道 而 活 。 以 色 列
家 啊 ， 你 们 转 回 ， 转 回 罢 ！ 离 开 恶 道 ， 何 必 死 亡 呢 ？
使_
them |
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J*******g
发帖数: 8775 | 34 跟你说很多遍了，我不赞美神杀恶人。神自己都不喜欢杀恶人我们基督徒为什么要赞美
呢？
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
以 西 結 書 33:11
11 你 对 他 们 说 ， 主 耶 和 华 说 ： 我 指 着 我 的 永 生 起 誓 ， 我 断
不 喜 悦 恶 人 死 亡 ， 惟 喜 悦 恶 人 转 离 所 行 的 道 而 活 。 以 色 列
家 啊 ， 你 们 转 回 ， 转 回 罢 ！ 离 开 恶 道 ， 何 必 死 亡 呢 ？
使_
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b********y
发帖数: 84 | 35 以赛亚书45：7中的“EVIL”一次的解释。 它的希伯来文是“רַע
”一词。KJV翻译成EVIL， NKJV和NASB翻译成“calamity”NIV翻译成“disaster”.
根据下面的参考文献，这个词的含义很丰富，除了有“EVIL”的意思之外，还有其他方
面的意思。
在诸多意义中，一个比较符合以赛亚书45：7的意思是“灾难/不幸/逆境”，这和之前
的“PEACE”形成对比，就如上半节，光与暗形成对比一样。这样理解比较符合上下文。
根据解经文献来看，大体有两种解释，第一，这个词在这里是指“灾难”。第二，这个
词在这里指“EVIL OF PUNISHMENT”。而这两种定义不矛盾，结合更大的上下文背景看
，灾难可以作为神对亚述的PUNISHMENT。
所以，无论怎样，这里的“רַע”一词，不是指的道德领域的EVIL
，或属灵的罪恶。
第一部分：词的意思
文献1：
II. רַע S7451 TWOT2191a GK8273126 n.m. Jb 30:26 evil,
dis... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 36 简单的说，不管好人坏人，如果不信，我们不知道上帝会怎么判。但是不管好人坏人，
只要信了，就可以上天堂。
上帝决定谁上谁不上天堂，我们只是吧这个好消息告诉大家而已。
如果一个罪大恶极的人可以真心悔改，上帝应该是很高兴的。这正会体现上帝的伟大。
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
以 西 結 書 33:11
11 你 对 他 们 说 ， 主 耶 和 华 说 ： 我 指 着 我 的 永 生 起 誓 ， 我 断
不 喜 悦 恶 人 死 亡 ， 惟 喜 悦 恶 人 转 离 所 行 的 道 而 活 。 以 色 列
家 啊 ， 你 们 转 回 ， 转 回 罢 ！... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 37 我是人，不是机器人，我真的有点烦了。跟你说多少遍了。
上帝自己都不喜欢看恶人死亡，我们信徒为什么要赞美呢？
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
以 西 結 書 33:11
11 你 对 他 们 说 ， 主 耶 和 华 说 ： 我 指 着 我 的 永 生 起 誓 ， 我 断
不 喜 悦 恶 人 死 亡 ， 惟 喜 悦 恶 人 转 离 所 行 的 道 而 活 。 以 色 列
家 啊 ， 你 们 转 回 ， 转 回 罢 ！ 离 开 恶 道 ， 何 必 死 亡 呢 ？ |
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发帖数: 8775 | 38 上帝自己都不喜欢看恶人死亡，我们信徒为什么要赞美呢？
基督徒不赞美主，你怎么那么纠结呢？
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
以 西 結 書 33:11
11 你 对 他 们 说 ， 主 耶 和 华 说 ： 我 指 着 我 的 永 生 起 誓 ， 我 断
不 喜 悦 恶 人 死 亡 ， 惟 喜 悦 恶 人 转 离 所 行 的 道 而 活 。 以 色 列
家 啊 ， 你 们 转 回 ， 转 回 罢 ！ 离 开 恶 道 ， 何 必 死 亡 呢 ？ |
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发帖数: 592 | 39 The problem of evil has vexed Christian theologians for nearly two millennia
, burdening them with the impossible task of explaining how so much evil and
suffering could exist in a cosmos overseen by an omnipotent, omniscient,
and perfectly good deity。
The translators of many modern Bible editions, aware of the unsettling
implications this verse holds for their faith, have attempted to soften the
blow by translating it in a more palatable way. The New International
Version, for example, has this... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 40 我也认为不该赞美。
从Sodom，nineveh, 和
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
非常明确上帝不喜欢看恶人受罚，而是喜欢他们悔罪。
如果上帝自己都不喜欢，我们基督徒为什么要赞美呢？ |
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发帖数: 8775 | 41 我也认为不该赞美。
从Sodom，nineveh, 和
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
非常明确上帝不喜欢看恶人受罚，而是喜欢他们悔罪。
如果上帝自己都不喜欢，我们基督徒为什么要赞美呢？ |
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发帖数: 8775 | 42 反基没有看到问题的实质。
实质是他违反了上帝给以色列民族的法律：在安息日不可劳作。
何况他们违反神的法律就是不信上帝的表现，所以上帝比较生气。因为上帝刚把他们从
埃及救出来，整个过程中施了很多神迹，他们如果还不信，那就太说不过去了。
反基总是对细节（拾柴火）很感兴趣，对问题的实质视而不见。
上帝施了很多神迹
基督徒不赞美上帝惩罚恶人。上帝自己都不喜欢，为啥要赞美。
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
以 西 結 書 33:11
11 你 对 他 们 说 ， 主 耶 和 华 说 ： 我 指 着 我 的 永 生 起 誓 ， 我 断
不 喜 悦 恶 人... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 43 上帝曾用洪水把地上的人都除去了（除了正直的诺亚和家人），因为人的罪恶太重。
Genesis 6
5 The Lord saw how great the wickedness of the human race had become on the
earth, and that every inclination of the thoughts of the human heart was
only evil all the time. 6 The Lord regretted that he had made human beings
on the earth, and his heart was deeply troubled.
上帝允许恶的存在，但是也会惩罚人的罪。
上帝对恶的惩罚并不高兴，而人的悔罪才会令他高兴。
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 44 大洪水才是最吓人的，只有反基喜欢说“杀婴屠城”罢了。
上帝允许恶的存在，但是也会惩罚人的罪。
上帝对恶的惩罚并不高兴，而人的悔罪才会令他高兴。
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
以 西 結 書 33:11
11 你 对 他 们 说 ， 主 耶 和 华 说 ： 我 指 着 我 的 永 生 起 誓 ， 我 断
不 喜 悦 恶 人 死 亡 ， 惟 喜 悦 恶 人 转 离 所 行 的 道 而 活 。 以 色 列
家 啊 ， 你 们 转 回 ， 转 回 罢 ！ 离 开 恶 道 ， 何 必 死 亡 呢 ？ |
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发帖数: 8775 | 45 死，是一件值得令人伤心的事。
你反基不要紧，但还是要保持common sense啊。
上帝造人时，让人吃生命树上的果子，可以长生不死。
死是上帝对人的罪的惩罚。
上帝不喜欢惩罚罪人。
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
以 西 結 書 33:11
11 你 对 他 们 说 ， 主 耶 和 华 说 ： 我 指 着 我 的 永 生 起 誓 ， 我 断
不 喜 悦 恶 人 死 亡 ， 惟 喜 悦 恶 人 转 离 所 行 的 道 而 活 。 以 色 列
家 啊 ， 你 们 转 回 ， 转 回 罢 ！ 离 开 恶 道 ， 何 必 死 亡 呢 ？
那么基督徒相... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 46 死，是一件值得令人伤心的事。
你反基不要紧，但还是要保持common sense啊。
上帝造人时，让人吃生命树上的果子，可以长生不死。
死是上帝对人的罪的惩罚。
上帝不喜欢惩罚罪人。
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
以 西 結 書 33:11
11 你 对 他 们 说 ， 主 耶 和 华 说 ： 我 指 着 我 的 永 生 起 誓 ， 我 断
不 喜 悦 恶 人 死 亡 ， 惟 喜 悦 恶 人 转 离 所 行 的 道 而 活 。 以 色 列
家 啊 ， 你 们 转 回 ， 转 回 罢 ！ 离 开 恶 道 ， 何 必 死 亡 呢 ？
那么基督徒相... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 8775 | 48 Proverbs 3:25-26
New International Version (NIV)
25 Have no fear of sudden disaster
or of the ruin that overtakes the wicked,
26 for the Lord will be at your side
and will keep your foot from being snared.
ESV study bible.
Prov. 3:25–26 These verses encourage those who seek to walk in wisdom not
to live in fear of the ruin that will come upon the wicked (cf. 1:26–27)
but to trust that the Lord will keep them safe through the just and
equitable lifestyle he requires of the righteous. |
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发帖数: 8775 | 49 上帝不喜欢恶人受罚，而喜欢恶人悔改。基督徒为啥要赞美上帝自己都不喜欢的事呢？
人对古时候发生的，本身不大了解的事，无论赞不赞成又有什么意义呢？
Ezekiel 33:11
11Say to them, As I live, declares the Lord God, I have no pleasure in the
death of the wicked, but that the wicked turn from his way and live; turn
back, turn back from your evil ways, for why will you die, O house of Israel?
你说到的屠城的圣经上3500年前记载的事。以色列人遵从上帝的旨意去扫平迦南的原住
民。（注意嘁里喀嚓宣传神杀人，是完全错误的。）
屠城的原因是那的人作恶。圣经中已经解释的很清楚。
Leviticus 18中说到迦南人各种乱伦，与邻居发生性行为（对婚姻的不忠），搞同性性
行为，与动物发生性行为，把孩子作为祭品，祭献给迦南人崇拜的偶像神Molek（不是
上帝）。（嘁里喀嚓在为... 阅读全帖 |
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