n****u
发帖数: 498 | 1
我在Casino玩的，我不知道3% VPIP是什么意思 |
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c*****t
发帖数: 817 | 2
fish
In live poker, I am not sure if you need to balance your check raise range
at all. A typical check raise percentage is 5 ~ 10%. Say you got a 5-hour
session and played 150 hands. Your VPIP is 20%. Then you check raised about
1 ~ 3 times over the whole session. For such a small sample size you dont
really need to balance or depolarize your range. |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 3 well, I play live with same ppl every week, and my vpip is around 70%, so
yes I do need to depolarize
about |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 4 you are suckout master? :) my vpip is around 90% now, playing heads up. |
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p*******p
发帖数: 13670 | 5 come on, it's not called suck out, it's well timing chasing of draws :)
I play full ring(6 to 10), heads up my vpip is 100%
. |
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h*******s
发帖数: 3932 | 6 and yet no one punishes you with such high vpip? |
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 7 最近开始玩一些低级别的PLO，也挺有意思的，低级别Pool里面不会玩的也不少
凑合能打打
Hero (BB): $10.00
UTG: $11.22 - VPIP: 11, PFR: 5, 3B: 0, AF: 10.0, Hands: 82
Pre Flop: ($0.15) Hero is BB with Qc Td 7c Jd
UTG calls $0.10, 1 fold, CO raises to $0.40, 2 folds, Hero calls $0.30, UTG
calls $0.30
Flop: ($1.25) 2s Ah Kc (3 players)
Hero checks, UTG bets $1.00, CO folds, Hero ? (raise/call) |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 8 I never hired a coach, but i do believe having a good coach is very helpful
and can save us a lot of time searching.
With that being said, if you want to try to improve yourself. I have several
suggestions to turn you into a NL 100winner. Maybe you are already doing
some of them, then just ignore them.
1) reduce the number of tables until you start to consistently winning
When you play a lot of tables, you do a lot of auto-pilot. It is ok on a
level where you are already a winner. But at a new l... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 9 that assumes you play 100% VPIP, lol. |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 10 what is ur vpip/pfr, sister? |
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p****t
发帖数: 292 | 11 table average...
you can easily find it in hm/pt |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 12
tighten
to
less
etc
NL25 6-MAX
The scary thing is I actually play in a semi-conservative style. My feel, it
is all of a sudden after one night, bunch of new agg ids join in the tables
, I usually mark them as pushy players. with vpip/pfr 30ish/20ish, their
basic AF > 8,and with high frequency of 2 barrels/3 barrels. pf 3bet rates
are also high. The game is not that soft any more. and recently I always ran
into the underdog side of coolers. Good thing is I can still control my
allin btn. Seems s... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 13 Mine is 78% now.
I still play 12.5vpip in FR but has 5.8 3 betting now. . I ajust my
online cash game by 3 betting a lot more in position and works pretty well.
My 3 betting range is from 67s-AA. I find out that 3 betting with sc in
position is very profitable play. |
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c****1
发帖数: 457 | 14 别人不4-bet么。 你3bet后出的cbet比例多大
well. |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 15 for 100BB cap game, 4 bet needs to commit a big percentage of your chips.
You do not know if I have 67s or AA. This makes 3 betting so powerful. I can
easily fold to 4 bet most of time. But I got 4 bet rare enough to make 3 bet
profitable. You can pick up a lot of dead money many times.
I cbet 64.5% after 3 betting. But checking behind does not mean I do not
have anything or give up the pot. |
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q**q
发帖数: 51 | 16
Do you 3 bet AQs, JJ, TT in position? how often would you fold those hands
to 4 bet?0BB cap game, 4 bet needs to commit a big percentage of your chips.
can
bet |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 17 you are increasing ur 3bet % in your villain's database, i think, lol
soon u will find more and more 4bet is coming |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 18 从回帖可以看出Jim 的悲惨经历哈. 同情...
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 19 这个问题问得好啊。
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搬个板凳坐等版3 解答。 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 20 I do 3 bet with these hands in position sometime, but fold to 4 bet most
of time with these hands. It is still very profitable since most villian's 4
bet range is only KK, AA, sometime AK, only a very small portion of their
open range. It really depends who raise and raise from what postion. If
the effective stack is deep enough, I will call TT, JJ with small 4 betting
in position.
I usually call with AQs,even Aks in position , especially in multiway pot
since it has more value postfl... 阅读全帖 |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 21 then you will see more 5 betting coming...:)
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s*******o
发帖数: 4896 | 22 then finally both of u will converege to an optimal play |
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p****t
发帖数: 292 | 23 Then you are turning your JJ/TT into bluff. Even worse, you force your
opponent to play optimally against you, that is, he'll 4bet hands that beat
you and fold hands that you beat. Occasionally, he'll decide to bluff 4bet
and succede.
I prefer flat calling with JJ/TT now and I pick other hands to bluff 3bet.
For example, I like to 3bet AQo/KQo when the raiser has a tight range and I
believe that I cannot profitably flat call with those hands. However,
because of the blockers I hold, I expect my ... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 24 ┈┈┈┈┈┈▕▔╲┈┈┈┈┈┈
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beat
I
make
calling |
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p****r
发帖数: 9164 | 25 there is no way that I turn 3 beting with JJ/TT into bluff. It is always
situational. First, I do not 3 bet often with TT/JJ. I only 3 bet these
hands once a while to ppl who has been keeping openning with hands like 67o,
and flat call these hand to ppl who has a tighter open range. TT/JJ is
doing horrible against most ppl's 4 bet range though. Also I am talking
about online cash game, where lots of ppl' s open range is much wider than
live game.
poker is a people game first of all. it is... 阅读全帖 |
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q**q
发帖数: 51 | 26 that make sense, when calling 4 bet with TT, JJ, are you set mining?
4 bet is normally 20-30bb, which means you will need to be at least 200bb de
ep to make this call correct.
How far would you continue if you flop over pair and facing aggresion?
BTW, if you are only "3 bet these hands in position sometime", you do have m
ore bluff 3 bet with hand not as you described to get you to 5.x%. what are
those hands? KJo, QJo?
4
betting
pot |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 27
hold
贪没有什么不好啊！贪才有动力！我就是贪吃，贪睡，贪玩（和爱LP，LP也看mitbbs,
不想又被骂没出息）
Limit hold'em has bigger swings because it's much harder to protect hands
given the fixed betting structure. When you can't protect your hand with a
pot-sized bet, or more importantly, when you can't protect your hand through
the fear of future large bets - a lot more hands get to the river (right or
wrong). In other words, people realize their hand's equity far more
frequent in Limit Hold'em than in No Limit Hold'em. When that happe... 阅读全帖 |
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T********n
发帖数: 528 | 28 昨天刚飞到纽约花了一整天睡得饱饱的。今天陪LP逛街，然后跟她大学同学们见见面。
听到的都是谁家生老二啦，谁回国当教授了之类。时光飞逝，LP和她朋友们来美也有差
不多10年了。听了这些回忆虽然是局外人可是也还是津津有味。
纽约对我们基本上已经没有太大吸引力了。这次来只是因为我俩下礼拜刚好都在东部出
差所以就一个mini getaway。
一点计划都没有除了去了我们比较喜欢的几个餐馆。吃的时候LP就问起有没有一些扑克
特别的回忆。我就说有！第一次live flop royal flush我一生难忘。
这其实是我第二次flop royal flush。不过第一次是online，当时玩的stakes比较低，
online也没有什么特别的感觉。这一次就大大不同啦。
2006年，WSOP Main Event前几天，我记得当时我早早就定了Day1A（早输早回工作）。
不像有些tourney donkey同类朋友们在ME前要不就是恶补tournament strategy，要不
就好好休息。我这个addict就不停的打牌。好像在大的buyin的tournament前我不把身
心都弄得快累垮不甘心似的... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 29 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 炒股和打牌 最近闲的无聊，去股版潜水比较多。不是去找小道消息，纯粹是冲着股版的娱乐价值去
的。不能不说看看股票的众牛鬼蛇神赢钱时沾沾自喜 BSO，输钱后鬼哭狼嚎的样子，还
是能给单调的生活带来不少乐趣的。
一些随想：
和任何与钱有关系的游戏一样，人们倾向于 BSO 自己的盈利，在输钱的时候大多数选
择木鸡。股市涨的时候活跃的那些 ID，大牛们，在大盘回调时大多都销声匿迹。很多
还能喊亏废了的，其实大多数并没有亏很多，或者是小账户。
炒股和打牌其实是互通的，就我个人来说，4 年的打牌经验给了我炒股很多启发，其中
“纪律”和“耐心”是最关键的两条。
炒股和打牌一样，任何一种 style 都能赢钱。但股版的青蛙和牌桌上的鱼的确有一些
很有趣的共性：
1. 动的太多: 青蛙们恨不得天天 trade，每分钟都 trade。觉得有 cash position 就
是和自己过不去，每天不给券商 commission 就对不起自己开的股票账户，今天还看到
一位在问人家：自己每月“只” trade 8－15 次，是不是开美林的账户用免费的
trade 比较好，而他的本金不过 7000 快。我边看边想“天哪，还每月只... 阅读全帖 |
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T*********k
发帖数: 1621 | 30 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 炒股和打牌 最近闲的无聊，去股版潜水比较多。不是去找小道消息，纯粹是冲着股版的娱乐价值去
的。不能不说看看股票的众牛鬼蛇神赢钱时沾沾自喜 BSO，输钱后鬼哭狼嚎的样子，还
是能给单调的生活带来不少乐趣的。
一些随想：
和任何与钱有关系的游戏一样，人们倾向于 BSO 自己的盈利，在输钱的时候大多数选
择木鸡。股市涨的时候活跃的那些 ID，大牛们，在大盘回调时大多都销声匿迹。很多
还能喊亏废了的，其实大多数并没有亏很多，或者是小账户。
炒股和打牌其实是互通的，就我个人来说，4 年的打牌经验给了我炒股很多启发，其中
“纪律”和“耐心”是最关键的两条。
炒股和打牌一样，任何一种 style 都能赢钱。但股版的青蛙和牌桌上的鱼的确有一些
很有趣的共性：
1. 动的太多: 青蛙们恨不得天天 trade，每分钟都 trade。觉得有 cash position 就
是和自己过不去，每天不给券商 commission 就对不起自己开的股票账户，今天还看到
一位在问人家：自己每月“只” trade 8－15 次，是不是开美林的账户用免费的
trade 比较好，而他的本金不过 7000 快。我边看边想“天哪，还每月只... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 31 $2+$.2 buyin , top 12 win $11 tourney ticket
final 15, majority have 10bb or so stack. no donkey left, means everyone is
semi-serious.
Hero 10bb(12th) on big blind with kqo.
Villain CO open shove 9bb, whose stats is 25/19/3 (vpip/pfr/3bet)
hero? |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 32 another thing is you might be too concerned with his VPIP, which in general
is a good factor but not here. |
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y********n
发帖数: 2063 | 33 fryking is absolutely correct.
In game, I guess you need 75% equity to make the break even call. Put it
with hands: JJ+ can call. AQ/Ak is a fold.
Since I am a little lazy, I will make the in-game estimation, instead of
calculation.
Pretty sure you can get the correct icm number by using Sngwiz, or online
tools.
I estimate each of you has around 9$ equity in the tourney.(rough
calculation:12*11/15=8.8, my guess is close enough) If you call and win, you
get around 10.88$(estimation).
In this scen... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 34 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 这手牌乍办 river value bet, facing big raise. villian is vpip 19/12 over 100 hand. no
other read.
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Merge $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
CO: $50.00
BTN: $84.95
SB: $42.10
BB: $50.00
Hero (UTG): $75.59
UTG+1: $60.63
UTG+2: $41.09
MP1: $152.18
MP2: $56.98
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with Jc Tc
Hero raises to $1.43, UTG+1 calls $1.43, 7 folds
Flop: ($3.61) 5h 9c 3h (2 players)
Hero bets $2.20, UTG+1 calls $2.20
Turn: ($8.01) 2c (2 players)
Hero bets $4.60, UTG+1 calls $4.60
River: ($17.21) 8c ... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 35 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 这手牌乍办 vpip overall 应该around 20/14， 当时开了4桌，几个桌子的数据差别比较大。 100
手牌，其他数据基本没有意义。 preflop raise 比较多， postflop agression 一般
般。 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 36 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 这手牌乍办 昨有一个哥们儿坐我下家 2K手记录 vpip pfr exactly 19/12
尼玛，只玩broadway和pair啊，而且还要看位置。所以那天我说，能击中board
5h9c3h 2c 8c的牌已经没多少了。
mm老湿的这个list里
a）2 pair +
b) set +
c) straight +
d) worse flush +
e) better flush +
abc thinking，前三项只有river帮到了才更make sense一点，且8h9h和6h7h多半也得
砍掉。
这样剩下的worse hand有，bluffing hands + 3手89sc + 3手67sc + 3手88，剩下的
flush都比MM老湿大啊，AK、AQ、A3、A4、A5、KQ。
貌似是个call。但是没法推啊，除非对手是小白。
如有疏漏，请指教 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 37 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 这手牌乍办 river value bet, facing big raise. villian is vpip 19/12 over 100 hand. no
other read.
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Merge $50.00 No Limit Hold'em - 9 players -
CO: $50.00
BTN: $84.95
SB: $42.10
BB: $50.00
Hero (UTG): $75.59
UTG+1: $60.63
UTG+2: $41.09
MP1: $152.18
MP2: $56.98
Pre Flop: ($0.75) Hero is UTG with Jc Tc
Hero raises to $1.43, UTG+1 calls $1.43, 7 folds
Flop: ($3.61) 5h 9c 3h (2 players)
Hero bets $2.20, UTG+1 calls $2.20
Turn: ($8.01) 2c (2 players)
Hero bets $4.60, UTG+1 calls $4.60
River: ($17.21) 8c ... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 38 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 这手牌乍办 vpip overall 应该around 20/14， 当时开了4桌，几个桌子的数据差别比较大。 100
手牌，其他数据基本没有意义。 preflop raise 比较多， postflop agression 一般
般。 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 39 来自主题: TexasHoldem版 - 这手牌乍办 昨有一个哥们儿坐我下家 2K手记录 vpip pfr exactly 19/12
尼玛，只玩broadway和pair啊，而且还要看位置。所以那天我说，能击中board
5h9c3h 2c 8c的牌已经没多少了。
mm老湿的这个list里
a）2 pair +
b) set +
c) straight +
d) worse flush +
e) better flush +
abc thinking，前三项只有river帮到了才更make sense一点，且8h9h和6h7h多半也得
砍掉。
这样剩下的worse hand有，bluffing hands + 3手89sc + 3手67sc + 3手88，剩下的
flush都比MM老湿大啊，AK、AQ、A3、A4、A5、KQ。
貌似是个call。但是没法推啊，除非对手是小白。
如有疏漏，请指教 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 40 KTo is a very tricky hand to play UTG. It almost never hit the nuts, and can
be easily dominated by hands like AT, KJ, KQ, AK. My general suggestion is
that just don't play this hand in early positions.
It is difficult to comment on this perticular op without VPIP/PFR/3b etc...
According to your discription, I guess this guy raise flop/ bet the turn a
lot. If he raise-shove with QT or worse very often, then you made a perfect
play. Otherwise, this is a not a good flop to cbet. I would check and
... 阅读全帖 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 41 我的想法是这样的，欢迎chem老师来探讨一下。
2bb open的话就给BB一个非常好的odd。call 1bb to win 3.5bb pot。假设BB的牌是
Q3o，flop hit pair Q和2 pair+的概率接近20%。这本身就是一个+ev call了。同时因
为pot很小，意味着如果用45s，22之类的牌call的话imply odds很大，fold equity很
高。如果再考虑前面的位置也有人call的话，BB几乎可以+ev无脑call任何牌。同时
late position比如button可以非常cheap的3bet bluff，然后利用position玩postflop
。也使得early position opener很难打。根据thoery of poker,玩牌赢钱的方法是让
对手make wrong move。所以除非对手非常tight，不停fold to 2bb open（wrong move
），否则是很难赢钱的。
5bb open涉及到open range的问题。我也没有太想明白。极限的情况比如hero只open
QQ+和AK，遇到3bet就
4... 阅读全帖 |
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f*****g
发帖数: 15860 | 42 with his high VPIP, he'd c-bet a lot his weak/ok hands on that flop, TT, K9/
Q9s, A7, AK ...
the only times he's "wasting" his aggression and position, are when he hits
big and is counting on you two to catch up some how. betting 77/99 and
taking it down here is not "cute".
the turn K doesn't hit him, but he'd believe it's hit yours, as i assume,
your image is like normal nit chinese?
calling here is ok, but you may talk yourself into another big call or shove
on the river. |
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m**********s
发帖数: 87 | 43 分析牛叉。
这个flop和turn都没有顺子同花的可能性。比较像是三条啊。
如果我是button且有
79/K9
AA/KK/QQ/JJ/TT
AK/KQ
的话，我都会c－bet。
当然我也会c－bet即使我是99／77。
可能的例外 如果手上是QJ／JT 凑成了 gunshot straight draw and flush draw，我
会假设上家有pair Kings，然后raise
with his high VPIP, he'd c-bet a lot his weak/ok hands on that flop, TT, K9/
Q9s, A7, AK ...
the only times he's "wasting" his aggression and position, are when he hits
big and is counting on you two to catch up some how. betting 77/99 and
taking it down here is not "cute".
the turn K doesn't hit him,... 阅读全帖 |
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 44 我觉得你吧紧弱和紧胸搞混了。 Phil 的所谓加强班紧凶难道不正是TAG的典型？ 我觉
得tourney 紧凶比较好打还是可以理解的， 毕竟筹码浅，fold equity 应该也比较小
由于chip stack 和 pot equity 的关系, 如果大家打法对，最后还是比谁的起手牌好
。
Cash 虽然筹码深， 其实紧凶也是最好打的，如今lag 泛滥，我觉得其实是误导了很多
人，其实起手牌好是打牌可以稳定盈利最重要的部分， 至少Holdem 是这样。 就像我
说的， 要做伪装成松凶的紧凶最划算，这个其实在live 比online 容易， live 没有
大量数据， 一两手牌就可以把自己伪装成松凶（or maniac) 妥妥的. Online 要难很
多， 只能用vpip 来伪装， 不过仔细看看数据，也可以轻松看出谁是真的， 谁是假的。
★ 发自iPhone App: ChineseWeb 7.8 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 45 260＋40刀买入，30分钟一级，500bb的初始筹码量，到中后期开始ante保持在六分之一
的大盲注（哥觉得相对过高，可能哥老土吧），总entry 157，final table开始pay
jump，第一名 ～$10K, 第九名～1K，钱圈20人，十到二十名～$700
跟朋友约好去fw随便玩玩cash，正巧看到这个tourney，一看有时间，所以尝试一下。
这应该算是哥的第5个live tourney。哥很少玩live tourney，原因很简单，就是觉得
没盼头，过程冗长，对体力和耐心要求很高，而且抽水太重。唯一吸引哥的就是live
table人间万象，玩家看上去都是那副很serious的样子，哥觉得挺逗。
闲话不多说，开始正文。
11点开始，桌上水平参差不齐，不乏高手，也有老爷爷用个中对追三条接的牌。哥初期
进局挺多，随着盲注提高，逐渐缩紧，没什么大pot，到40bb的时候agaisnt一个young
pro的两条街的重注，在river的scary card上，哥果断把medium strength hand turn
成了一个allin bluff，拿下。桌子到中期，仍然相当凶... 阅读全帖 |
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n***a
发帖数: 274 | 46 大家指导一下这几手牌
villains:
1.奇怪老头,bluffed river at least once, aggressive but not out of line, have
sizing problem
2.亚男,relative loose caller,probably not understanding position well,
otherwise solid
3.短筹驴,played short stack the whole time, vpip 90%, fof otf
4.二十女,TYPICAL weak passive female player
hero image, slightly loose, play position
1.hero AhQc, LP 12$, 老头call, (stack irrelevant)
95d3d flop, c/c
turn Td, 老头 20,hero tank call
river 3s 老头 35,hero?
2.hero 88, LP 12$, 老头 call, (stack irreleva... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****0
发帖数: 1500 | 47 自己打得臭，turn上面slow play不raise，miss value，donk allin 75块 river，你
还去snap call，其实你是更大的donk
--哈哈
数据只是参考,因为很多的情况下,对手数据还是处于一个很宽的中间带,死套数据会死
很惨.当然,数据太离谱就另当别论了,比如vpip 80, pfr 35, 3bet 5, AF 10, flop
donk bet 50 , wssd小于30,之类的.
哥通常采取看数据+历史记录+头标的方式,十有八九能估摸出对手的范围和tendency.
象这手牌,哥估计对手数据应该已经很难看了,然后flop和turn上的两barrel,有太多手
牌落后于老湿,如果对手river cbet或者历史上3barrel的数据也很高,哥大概也会在绝
大多数情况下平call turn.
至于river么,虽然size看上去有些危险,但是这张q实在是有太高的%是张blank,这就是
river 用1对2的比例call的理由.
哥目前还在学习阶段,如有错误,欢迎指正 |
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p******a
发帖数: 975 | 48 3bet 说一下
2%的3bet range已经好久好久没有见到到过了……如果我后面坐了一个3bet 2%的人，
我co和bu会open 100%的牌。
3bet 并不是越高越好，postflop skill edge越大，3bet就应该越低。假设我能看到对
手的底牌，我的3bet一定很接近0。两个我觉得打得很好的人leatherass和yourdoom
3bet都很低（不到7%）。
很高的3bet有利于在postflop有劣势的情况下减小对手的优势。另外一方面，如果对手
技术很好的话，一般在有position的情况下是不会fold的，比如Dwan和Ivey，几乎不会
在有position的时候fold to 3bet。至于像isildur的疯狗一样的打法的话，连没有
position都不会fold……
所以3bet太高其实没什么必要，尤其3bet高vpip低的话更加就是浪费了
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 49 不如你把最近几万手牌的数据贴一下。 我们也可以学习一下。
vpip, 3 bet, fold to 3 bet, % to show down, show down winning %, cbet% at
flop turn river, win rate. 让我门敬仰一下
rake
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W********m
发帖数: 7793 | 50 其实D神是BSO 自己就是Galfond. G man 在他的2+2 的well 里装B, 自己打
microstake 会打vpip 65/17 （具体数字不记得了） 之类的， post flop 把可以reg,
fish 都爆出酱。 牛B 啊。 其实我很想看看他打NL100 65/17如何赢钱， 在我看来，这
比在NL1000打24/20 难多了。
谁有兴趣可以去看看。 搜G man 的well， 前5，6页就有提到。。。 |
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