J******s
发帖数: 7538 | 1 I found this is better to understand than Chinese version. :-)
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Four Kinds of Kamma (Kamma-catukka)
Buddha Abhidhamma by Dr. Mehm Tin Mon
Though we cannot know the individual kammas in person, we can classify the
kammas into several types as described by Buddha, and predict when, where
and how each type will bear its result.
Introduction
Kamma, Sanskrit karma, literally means volitional action or deed. As a rule
good actions bear good results and bad actions bear bad results. Now ac... 阅读全帖 |
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J******s
发帖数: 7538 | 2 I found this is better to understand than Chinese version. :-)
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Four Kinds of Kamma (Kamma-catukka)
Buddha Abhidhamma by Dr. Mehm Tin Mon
Though we cannot know the individual kammas in person, we can classify the
kammas into several types as described by Buddha, and predict when, where
and how each type will bear its result.
Introduction
Kamma, Sanskrit karma, literally means volitional action or deed. As a rule
good actions bear good results and bad actions bear bad results. Now ac... 阅读全帖 |
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Y**u
发帖数: 5466 | 3 ☆─────────────────────────────────────☆
whosewho (whosewho) 于 (Sat Jan 21 22:26:45 2012, 美东) 提到:
俺前几天读某位师兄推荐的《禅修之旅》，感觉很好。不过有一个问题一直不明，就是
南传关于‘业’的解释。不知哪位师兄可以一解俺的疑惑？
多谢！
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SeeU (See you) 于 (Sun Jan 22 21:02:05 2012, 美东) 提到:
摘录自南传的《阿毗达摩概要精解》∶
善心与不善心两者是「业」（kamma）。缘于业成熟而生起的心是果报心。这类心组成有别于前两种的第三种心；它包括善业与不善业的果报（vipàka）。应明白在此所指的业与果报两者皆是纯粹属于精神方面的。业是与善心或不善心相应的「思」；其果报是其他体验成熟之业的
当「思」开始对目标作业时，它也指挥其他相应法执行各自的任务。「思」是造业的最主要因素，因为所采取的行动之善恶即决定于思。
不善果报心∶第一组无因心包含了七种不... 阅读全帖 |
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S**U
发帖数: 7025 | 4 原文很明确，业力是潜能，没有存储在哪里
http://www.dhammaweb.net/htmlbook/page.php?page=3&id=2
Kamma belongs to the mental aggregates. There are five aggregates:
materiality, feeling, perception, mental formations, and consciousness.
Volition belongs to the aggregate of formations. The aggregate of formations
is mental, and just as other mental states, it lasts only a very short
moment. It comes into being, stays only a little bit of time, and then
passes away But volition is different from other mental states in t... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 247 | 5 http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2012/02/183574.htm#CHINA
QUESTION: -- specifically these reports coming out of China that a deputy
mayor of Chongqing had sought refuge at the consulate in Chengdu and that
there had been an unexpected increase in security personnel around the
consulate for a while. What can you tell us about any of this?
MS. NULAND: Well, I think you’re referring to reports about the vice mayor
of Chongqing – right – City. So his name is Wang Lijun. Wang Lijun did
request a mee... 阅读全帖 |
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M********0
发帖数: 215 | 6 This analysis is not bad, and at least it understands what the spokeswoman
said. Those who had problem understanding the English statement, such as
Roseriver, may want to read this.
魔鬼在细节中,美国务院对王立军事件措辞是很有意思的 (ZZ)
文章来源: 文学城回国发展 于 2012-02-08 22:44:08 - 新闻取自各大新闻媒体，新闻
内容并不代表本网立场！
打印本新闻 (被阅读 59808 次) 作者：天若有情 于文学城回国发展论坛
美国国务院发言人的措辞是很有意思的. 首先,王英雄是"sought and had a meeting
at the consulate". 使用SOUGHT说明了,王是之前主动通过一些交流手段告知了美国领
事馆,而不是失魂落泊的一头闯进领事馆.也就是说这个会面是双方实现安排好的王从容
不迫的走进了领事馆,而且是他个人的行为.
然后,王的离开是"his own v... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******e
发帖数: 1544 | 7 说王没有寻求庇护，说不定就是谈文化交流。老将白亢奋的可能性很大！
“obviously, we don’t talk about issues having to do with refugee status,
asylum, et cetera.”
QUESTION: -- specifically these reports coming out of China that a deputy
mayor of Chongqing had sought refuge at the consulate in Chengdu and that
there had been an unexpected increase in security personnel around the
consulate for a while. What can you tell us about any of this?
MS. NULAND: Well, I think you’re referring to reports about the vice mayor
of Chongqing – ri... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******e
发帖数: 1544 | 8 老将英语有待提高！
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2012/02/183574.htm#CHINA
QUESTION: -- specifically these reports coming out of China that a deputy
mayor of Chongqing had sought refuge at the consulate in Chengdu and that
there had been an unexpected increase in security personnel around the
consulate for a while. What can you tell us about any of this?
MS. NULAND: Well, I think you’re referring to reports about the vice mayor
of Chongqing – right – City. So his name is Wang Lijun. Wang Lijun did
req... 阅读全帖 |
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a***s
发帖数: 1084 | 9 看下面这段。一个比较靠谱的猜测是，王以副市长身份与美领馆接洽要求会见，此时
他还应该是在薄督面前夹着尾巴做人。进入领馆之后，王立军马上反水，向北京告发
薄督，从而保证了自己人身安全。
QUESTION: -- specifically these reports coming out of China that a deputy
mayor of Chongqing had sought refuge at the consulate in Chengdu and that
there had been an unexpected increase in security personnel around the
consulate for a while. What can you tell us about any of this?
MS. NULAND: Well, I think you’re referring to reports about the vice mayor
of Chongqing – right – City. So his name is Wang Li... 阅读全帖 |
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C*****l
发帖数: 231 | 10 CHINA
Vice Mayor Wang Lijun Meeting at Chengdu Consulate
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2012/02/183574.htm
视频 3：15开始
http://video.state.gov/en/video/1441252685001
QUESTION: -- specifically these reports coming out of China that a deputy
mayor of Chongqing had sought refuge at the consulate in Chengdu and that
there had been an unexpected increase in security personnel around the
consulate for a while. What can you tell us about any of this?
MS. NULAND: Well, I think you’re referring to re... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****h
发帖数: 821 | 12 http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2012/02/183574.htm#CHINA
Victoria Nuland
Spokesperson
Daily Press Briefing
Washington, DC
February 8, 2012
Index for Today's Briefing
DEPARTMENT
•Conference Call on Right-Sizing Mission in Iraq
•Sen. Graham to Brief Secretary Clinton on Africa Trip
CHINA
•Vice Mayor Wang Lijun Meeting at Chengdu Consulate
TRANSCRIPT:
12:56 p.m. EST
QUESTION: I’ve got one on another subject --
MS. NULAND: Please, yes.
QUESTION: -- specifically these reports comi... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 75 | 13 MS. NULAND: Please, yes.
QUESTION: -- specifically these reports coming out of China that a deputy
mayor of Chongqing had sought refuge at the consulate in Chengdu and that
there had been an unexpected increase in security personnel around the
consulate for a while. What can you tell us about any of this? ...华岳论坛 -
"http://washeng.net"
MS. NULAND: Well, I think you’re referring to reports about the vice mayor
of Chongqing – right – City. So his name is Wang Lijun. Wang Lijun did
request a meetin... 阅读全帖 |
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Z*****l
发帖数: 14069 | 14 看看这封CEO给雇员的邮件（来自网上公开的资料）
Today, THQ was officially sold and auctioned off. Within the next few weeks,
the struggling video game publisher will be no more.
The company's assets have been divided, pending final court approval: Sega
agreed to purchase Relic (Company of Heroes), Koch Media has agreed to
purchase Volition (Saint's Row) and the Metro property, Crytek has agreed to
buy Homefront, Take-Two will purchase the unannounced game Evolve, and
Ubisoft will buy THQ Montreal and the South Park ga... 阅读全帖 |
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T****r
发帖数: 22092 | 15 发信人: pole (bbs), 信区: NewExpress
标 题: 美国国务院正式否认“避难”事件 （译文）
发信站: 水木社区 (Thu Feb 9 08:05:42 2012), 站内
美国国务院新闻稿原帖：
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2012/02/183574.htm#CHINA
Victoria Nuland Spokesperson 国务院发言人 维多利亚-努兰德
Daily Press Briefing每日新闻发布会
Washington, DC，February 8, 2012 2012年2月八日，华盛顿
发布会内容提要
DEPARTMENT 国务院
•Conference Call on Right-Sizing Mission in Iraq
•Sen. Graham to Brief Secretary Clinton on Africa Trip
CHINA 中国 （排名第二，坐实老二地位）
•Vice Mayor Wang Lijun Meeting at Chengdu... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 887 | 16 任大弟兄
斑马兄:
经过三天时间辛苦的资料搜集与考证以及寻师访友的咨询求问,我的"网上探宝"行动终
于有了成果--位格到底是什么,我已大致上弄清楚了.
不可否认,"位格"一词的定义是"三位一体(Trinitas)"基督教神学框架的基础.三位一体
的神学概念是教会信仰最核心的教义,也是所有信理中最深奥难懂的.当代伟大的神学家
卡尔-拉纳说:"假如天主教信仰有什么绝对奥秘的话,三位一体的奥秘便是最为根本的奥
秘."虽然在使徒时期教会刚刚出现的时候,当时的信徒们并没有直接地去传讲"三位一体
"的道理,他们只是通过他们的信仰宣示和书信,间接地向我们显示了主耶稣基督有关圣
三的启示. 然而,"三位一体"信仰的真正确定和词汇的出现,却是在后期众多古教父的反
省与探索下完成的. 他们中的著名人物有:游丝丁,依肋内,戴尔都良,奥力振,亚他那修,
巴西略,额我略-纳祥,额我略-尼撒,奥古斯丁(Augustine).其中,Augustine的圣三论思
想起了集大成和里程碑的作用,因此,他对与"位格"一词所下的定义,应该说是"盖棺定论
"的.
奥古斯丁(Augustine)对"位格"做了一个定义性的论述,他... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 4956 | 17 首先给大家看个故事，然后再探讨经文：
林慈信牧师的《基督教教义发展史》中提到这个：
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_622134fd01013i7l.html
基督论的发展史(1)：基督论的争辩
HISTORY OF THE DOCTRINE OF CHRIST (1):
The Christological Controversies
(Louis Berkhof, A History of Christian Doctrines, pp. 101ff.)
基督论与三位一体之问题的关联
Connection of Christological and Trinitarian Problems
基督论的难题可以从一般神学（译注：神论）方面，与拯救论方面来加以
研究。早期教父对基督论拯救方面的关系，虽未曾加以轻忽，但他们在重要的讨论上却
没有重视。在三位一体争论的气氛中，他们从一般神学（译注：神论）方面来研究基督
，乃天经地义的事，而三位一体争论所导致的决定则是，基督为神的儿子，事与父同质
的，因此祂是神。从此而发生的问题，就是基督... 阅读全帖 |
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k****s
发帖数: 1209 | 18 如果觉得还不够要命，“行”的英文翻译有：
Activities
Conditions
Conditioned things
Determinations
Fabrications
Formations
Karmic formations
Volitional activities
Volitional formations
看来“不行”是不行了。 |
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t******g
发帖数: 17520 | 19 谢谢！！我以为是新浪微博上的
好吧， 阿姜查也算高僧大德， 我说说为何我有以前的想法
1我被断章取义了， 阿姜查的禅修世界 3部 36章+ 若干序，跋
没有前因， 看着确实有点琼瑶讲故事。为了给自己不去研究找借口。
当一个凡人说自己笨的时候或许是真笨或者矫情
大和尚说自己笨的时候， 为了说道理服务的
前面说自我观照就可以修行， 后面说还是要上寺院闻法
2 翻译的有点问题， 网上找地英文版， 读起来好多了， 第一句
When it comes to the practice, the only things you really need to make a
start are honesty and integrity,
谈到修行，你真正唯一需要的是由诚实与正直开始
英文强调诚实和正直make a start， 而中文读着觉得是强调 唯一
我觉得正常的翻译应该是， 只要有诚实与正直的信念就可以开始修行了
还有 pratice Sila 那一句没翻
So in your practice of sila, just practice as I've explained here. Don... 阅读全帖 |
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t******g
发帖数: 17520 | 20 首先就是你觉得你已经有答案了而且是正确的
我的意思可以再在经论中找找答案
有时很简单，举个例子
google volition + sutta
会看到Cetanā， 然后会发现某佛经说不要意图不要计划才能不“造业”
（要当心看的重要桥段， 不计划不意图和“随波逐流”是两回事）
最后自己要决定如何take这个教义
也会看到其实volition 和karma 又是有紧密关系的 |
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m**x
发帖数: 8454 | 21 【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: Teller (yy), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 美国国务院正式否认“避难”事件 （译文）zz
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Feb 8 19:16:54 2012, 美东)
发信人: pole (bbs), 信区: NewExpress
标 题: 美国国务院正式否认“避难”事件 （译文）
发信站: 水木社区 (Thu Feb 9 08:05:42 2012), 站内
美国国务院新闻稿原帖：
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2012/02/183574.htm#CHINA
Victoria Nuland Spokesperson 国务院发言人 维多利亚-努兰德
Daily Press Briefing每日新闻发布会
Washington, DC，February 8, 2012 2012年2月八日，华盛顿
发布会内容提要
DEPARTMENT 国务院
•Conference Call on Right-Sizing Mission in I... 阅读全帖 |
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p*********w
发帖数: 23432 | 22 真相被讲出来了
In Washington, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland confirmed
that Wang sought and had a meeting at the consulate and later left "of his
own volition." She declined to comment on whether he had sought refugee
status or asylum.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/46305449#.TzLIWcis_4u |
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S*********r
发帖数: 5693 | 23 【 以下文字转载自 Military 讨论区 】
发信人: heech (大嘴巴), 信区: Military
标 题: 美国证实了，王立军进了领馆
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Feb 8 14:02:17 2012, 美东)
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-02-08/china-polic
In Washington, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland confirmed
that Wang sought and had a meeting at the consulate and later left "of his
own volition." She declined to comment on whether he had sought refugee
status or asylum.
She said to her knowledge, the consulate had not been in contact with Wang... 阅读全帖 |
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l*****r
发帖数: 131 | 24 美联社报道称（主要要点大意），王立军(专题)的打黑可能因为没有按正常程序进行而
失宠，他寻求政治庇护的消息无法核实。
王立军(专题)近期的职务调整引起关注，周三网上关于他到美领馆寻求政治庇护的
消息引起轰动。在华盛顿，美国国务院发言人Victoria Nuland确认了上述情况，王立
军(专题)找到美国领馆并和美方人员进行了会谈。Victoria Nuland称王立军自己离开
了领馆，她对王立军是否寻求政治庇护拒绝评论。她说，据她所知，领事在会谈后再也
没有和王立军取得联系。
美联社的报道对王立军和薄熙来的情况进行了阐述，称薄熙来在断绝和红歌、打黑
幕后推手的联系，希望在政治仕途上继续提升。
BEIJING (AP) – The former top cop of a major Chinese city has dropped
from sight amid unconfirmed reports he is seeking U.S. asylum following a
quarrel with one of China's most powerful local politici... 阅读全帖 |
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g*******6
发帖数: 1034 | 25 这是一张看上去有些特殊的名片。中英文双语印刷，开列了一大堆头衔：国际法医颅面
鉴定协会副主席；中国刑事科学技术学会常务理事；北京大学法学院刑法所研究员；现
场心理研究所主任；东北财经大学MBA学院社会心理研究室主任；现场技术鉴定研究中
心主任；博士生导师。
名片上，主人的真正身份却被刻意淡化，没有显示任何官方头衔。不过，竖排版手写体
的三个字“王立军”，已足以说明一切。
作为过去三年半来中国西南重镇重庆市公安工作的主政人，享誉全国的警界明星、“打
黑英雄”，王立军本人在某种意义上已成为重庆市的一张名片。
命运在不经意间转向。2012年2月8日，重庆官方正式发布消息称：王立军因长期超负荷
工作，精神高度紧张，身体严重不适，经同意，现正在接受休假式的治疗。
目前，重庆市官方媒体上已很难找到有关“王立军”的新闻。王立军这张名片正在淡出
重庆政治舞台。
成都惊变
2012年2月7日晚，成都。当日，很多警员被紧急通知召回机关。一些特殊警种接到命令
，前往位于城南的美国驻成都总领事馆门口执勤。
根据中国外交部发言人办公室2月9日发布的公开信息，重庆市副市长王立军于此前一天
，即2月6日进入美国驻成... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 3402 | 26 2月9日中共外交部发言人暗示他有叛逃嫌疑（“重庆市副市长王立军于２月６日进入美
国驻成都总领事馆，滞留１天后离开。有关部门正在对此进行调查”http://politics.people.com.cn/GB/17072592.html）：如果是按预约前往美领事馆商谈，有啥不能说的？就算不能说内容，说“因公务进入美领馆”啥秘密也泄露不了吧？
可是另外一边，美国国务院却否认他是叛逃（“Wang Lijun did request a meeting
at the U.S. Consulate General in Chengdu earlier this week in his capacity
as vice mayor. The meeting was scheduled, our folks met with him, he did
visit the consulate and he later left the consulate of his own volition”http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2012/02/183574.htm）
这就... 阅读全帖 |
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j*****h
发帖数: 3292 | 27 华尔街日报》再抖猛料：薄家英籍管家服务于情报机构
3月26日英国战略情报公司Hakluyt发言人对西方媒体证实说， 海沃德先生直到他在
重庆神秘死亡前， 一直都在定期为该公司工作。 而就在前一日，英国外交部对媒体表
示，它已要求中国就海沃德先生的死亡展开详细调查。
海伍德先生是薄熙来(专题)的二子薄瓜瓜在英美留学生活期间的英籍管家，2011年
11月他原因不明地神秘猝死于他在重庆酒店的房间内。地方当局迅速宣布他因“过度
饮酒”导致死亡，并未经尸检，即被重庆市原副市长、前公安局长王立军(专题)强行火
化。海伍德朋友曾向英国大使馆提出疑点，指海伍德滴酒不沾。
据《华尔街日报》报道 Hakluyt战略情报公司是由英国情报部门军情六处前军官创
立的。该公司进一步说海伍德先生不是公司的全职雇员，并没有为他们公司咨询过任何
重庆的项目。
Briton in China Scandal Advised Intelligence Firm
BEIJING—Neil Heywood, the British businessman whose death in China is
now a key el... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 70028 | 28 2011年3月6日，北京，重庆市公安局长王立军出席会议。 Feng Li/Getty Images/CFP
这是一张看上去有些特殊的名片。中英文双语印刷，开列了一大堆头衔：国际法医颅面鉴定协会副主席;中国刑事科学技术学会常务理事;北京大学法学院刑法所研究员;现场心理研究所主任;东北财经大学MBA学院社会心理研究室主任;现场技术鉴定研究中心主任;博士生导师。
名片上，主人的真正身份却被刻意淡化，没有显示任何官方头衔。不过，竖排版手写体的三个字“王立军”，已足以说明一切。
作为过去三年半来中国西南重镇重庆市公安工作的主政人，享誉全国的警界明星、“打黑英雄”，王立军本人在某种意义上已成为重庆市的一张名片。
命运在不经意间转向。2012年2月8日，重庆官方正式发布消息称：王立军因长期超负荷工作，精神高度紧张，身体严重不适，经同意，现正在接受休假式的治疗。
目前，重庆市官方媒体上已很难找到有关“王立军”的新闻。王立军这张名片正在淡出重庆政治舞台。
成都惊变
2012年2月7日晚，成都。当日，很多警员被紧急通知召回机关。一些特殊警种接到命令，前往位于城南的美国驻成都总领事馆门口执勤。
根据中国外交... 阅读全帖 |
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p********k
发帖数: 97 | 29 7/9 is not even close to 85%. They mean different things.
what Xiao claimed is 85% of homeruns (i.e., complete urinary continence).
7/9 is just increase in bladder pressure with stimulation of the dermatome.
And even this could be due to "not voiding volitionally or using the newly
developed cutaneous reflex" as one commenter pointed out.
Go back and read the paper and the comments again. |
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c*****r
发帖数: 8227 | 30 高潮迭起！
In Washington, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland confirmed
that Wang sought and had a meeting at the consulate and later left "of his
own volition." She declined to comment on whether he had sought refugee
status or asylum. |
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z*******3
发帖数: 704 | 31 My analysis was confirmed:
Wang went to US Consulate and he later left voluntarily.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-02-08/china-polic
In Washington, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland confirmed
that Wang sought and had a meeting at the consulate and later left "of his
own volition." She declined to comment on whether he had sought refugee
status or asylum.
She said to her knowledge, the consulate had not been in contact with Wang
since the meeting. |
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发帖数: 704 | 32 SB:
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-02-08/china-polic
In Washington, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland confirmed
that Wang sought and had a meeting at the consulate and later left "of his
own volition." She declined to comment on whether he had sought refugee
status or asylum.
She said to her knowledge, the consulate had not been in contact with Wang
since the meeting. |
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h***h
发帖数: 56 | 33 http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-02-08/china-polic
In Washington, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland confirmed
that Wang sought and had a meeting at the consulate and later left "of his
own volition." She declined to comment on whether he had sought refugee
status or asylum.
She said to her knowledge, the consulate had not been in contact with Wang
since the meeting. |
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e*******c
发帖数: 2133 | 34 left "of his own volition."..... |
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x******g
发帖数: 33885 | 35 他究竟在领事馆里干了什么？
“In Washington, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland confirmed
that Wang sought and had a meeting at the consulate and later left "of his
own volition."
不过，
1.他不想出国当汉奸,or
2.他当时可能有生命危险, or
3.去领事馆可能是老早就想好了的一条退路，也可能是临时改变了注意。
应该说他现在安全了。
熙来现在应是坐立不安了。 |
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x****u
发帖数: 12955 | 36
No. He asked for asylum and didn't get it. So he had to leave. He left "
on his own volition" because the US consulate probably said they will help
in other ways if he leave without making it a diplomatic incident. |
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L**r
发帖数: 411 | 37 这事真的要惊动党中央了， 薄熙来悬了 本ID觉得暂时先不自杀， 观看一下进一步发
展动向
In Washington, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland confirmed
that Wang sought and had a meeting at the consulate and later left "of his
own volition." She declined to comment on whether he had sought refugee
status or asylum.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/story/2012-02-08/china-polic |
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L**r
发帖数: 411 | 38 玫瑰和， 你要往下看：
In Washington, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland confirmed
that Wang sought and had a meeting at the consulate and later left "of his
own volition." She declined to comment on whether he had sought refugee
status or asylum.
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g********r
发帖数: 2630 | 39 >later left "of his own volition."
这报道透漏的消息：王和某领事谈了话，但绝对不是寻求庇护，因为人家自己离开。
再者，美方还没决定到底是黑王，还是挺王。所以这报道对王的描述比较客观。本版汉
奸走狗们也还没得到对此事件具体攻击目标的指示，所以目前都在幸灾了祸，骂小将。
本版动不动就对别人扣五毛帽子的一部分是汉奸走狗，还有一部分是自以为是的SB们。 |
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o****y
发帖数: 26355 | 40 In Washington, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland confirmed
that Wang sought and had a meeting at the consulate and later left "of his
own volition." She declined to comment on whether he had sought refugee
status or asylum.
She said to her knowledge, the consulate had not been in contact with Wang
since the meeting. |
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l***o
发帖数: 7937 | 41 In Washington, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland confirmed
that Wang sought and had a meeting at the consulate and later left "of his
own volition." She declined to comment on whether he had sought refugee
status or asylum.
美国国务院发言人维多利亚 努兰在美国首都华盛顿证实，王立军寻求在美国领事馆内
见面，美国领事馆同意其要求并与他见面。王后来自愿离开。对于王是否寻求政治避难
，她拒绝发表评论。
She said to her knowledge, the consulate had not been in contact with Wang
since the meeting.
她表示，据她所知，见面之后，领事馆还没有与王取得联系。 |
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c*****r
发帖数: 8227 | 42 In Washington, U.S. State Department spokeswoman Victoria Nuland confirmed
that Wang sought and had a meeting at the consulate and later left "of his
own volition." She declined to comment on whether he had sought refugee
status or asylum. |
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发帖数: 21374 | 43 MS. NULAND: Well, I think you’re referring to reports about the vice mayor
of Chongqing – right – City. So his name is Wang Lijun. Wang Lijun did
request a meeting at the U.S. Consulate General in Chengdu earlier this week
in his capacity as vice mayor. The meeting was scheduled, our folks met
with him, he did visit the consulate and he later left the consulate of his
own volition. So – and obviously, we don’t talk about issues having to do
with refugee status, asylum, et cetera. |
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W*********A
发帖数: 370 | 44 Wang Lijun did
request a meeting at the U.S. Consulate General in Chengdu earlier this week
in his capacity as vice mayor. The meeting was scheduled, our folks met
with him, he did visit the consulate and he later left the consulate of his
own volition. So – and obviously, we don’t talk about issues having to do
with refugee status, asylum, et cetera.
1. a meeting which was scheduled.
2. we DO NOT talk about issues having to do with refugee status, asylum, et
al.
原文链接在这里：http://www.state.gov/r/p... 阅读全帖 |
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z**********3
发帖数: 11979 | 45 开车从重庆到成都就晚上了呗，
甩掉监视他的人当然也可能没甩掉，重庆方面没这个预案等薄反应过来召集人马过去，
人已经在里面了。
通过领馆确认国安来接他，他自己走出去了 of his volition.
重庆方面不知道未来王会怎样，怎么定性，所以发明了个“休假性治疗”中性词，可双
规，可复职。 |
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d****d
发帖数: 2919 | 46 老将造谣真tmd可耻。
http://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2012/02/183574.htm#CHINA
CHINA
Vice Mayor Wang Lijun Meeting at Chengdu Consulate
QUESTION: -- specifically these reports coming out of China that a deputy
mayor of Chongqing had sought refuge at the consulate in Chengdu and that
there had been an unexpected increase in security personnel around the
consulate for a while. What can you tell us about any of this?
MS. NULAND: Well, I think you’re referring to reports about the vice mayor
of Chongqing – ... 阅读全帖 |
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g*******d
发帖数: 5873 | 47 你是对的，摘录如下：
MS. NULAND: Well, I think you’re referring to reports about the vice mayor
of Chongqing – right – City. So his name is Wang Lijun. Wang Lijun did
request a meeting at the U.S. Consulate General in Chengdu earlier this week
in his capacity as vice mayor. The meeting was scheduled, our folks met
with him, he did visit the consulate and he later left the consulate of his
own volition. So – and obviously, we don’t talk about issues having to do
with refugee status, asylum, et cetera. |
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发帖数: 4495 | 48 Wang Lijun did request a meeting at the U.S. Consulate General in Chengdu ea
rlier this week in his capacity as vice mayor. The meeting was scheduled, ou
r folks met with him, he did visit the consulate and he later left the consu
late of his own volition. So – and obviously, we don’t talk about issues h
aving to do with refugee status, asylum, et cetera.
好吧，算我英文烂，可是当时说他还是市长身份
发生在周一？ 我没仔细follow这个新闻，还以为是国内周三的事情呢
另外，特别强调了and obviously,..... |
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l******t
发帖数: 55733 | 49
rumored
继续，of his own volition。在解说这个把 |
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L********h
发帖数: 657 | 50 MS. NULAND: Well, I think you’re referring to reports about the vice mayor
of Chongqing – right – City. So his name is Wang Lijun. Wang Lijun did
request a meeting at the U.S. Consulate General in Chengdu earlier this week
in his capacity as vice mayor. The meeting was scheduled, our folks met
with him, he did visit the consulate and he later left the consulate of his
own volition. So – and obviously, we don’t talk about issues having to do
with refugee status, asylum, et cetera.
Read more:... 阅读全帖 |
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