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o****y
发帖数: 26355
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FDR ah.
He was also afraid of the communists in US la.
Now GOP is so bold because the communists were totally defeated around the
world. If USSR were still existed, GOP could not be this bold.
l****k
发帖数: 1134
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are you on drug? you were saying "if Jap stayed out of WWI" in last post,
that doesn't mean "stayed on the right side".
USSR was preparing to attack but Hitler acted first. you really don't know
that or you are digging holes?

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o****y
发帖数: 26355
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来自主题: Military版 - 卡扎菲之死对西方不是好事
Arab ppl are also realistic la.
Unless some other countries which love to be leaders of anti-America,
like the former USSR or the future China, no Arab country leaders want to
challenge American by themselves.
I********l
发帖数: 8702
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来自主题: Military版 - 伟大的毛时代工业化
老将就没有不造谣的吗?
美苏农业总产值对比
Gross Production Value (constant 2004-2006 1000 I$) (1000 Int. $)
year USA USSR
1961 110,138,277 85,971,033
.
.
.
1990 176,946,045 133,940,224
source:http://data.un.org/
c***T
发帖数: 4990
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USSR垮了,下一个自然是MD。
TG应该排在MD后面。
s****n
发帖数: 8912
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来自主题: Military版 - Creator Of Lisp, John McCarthy, Dead At 84
The creator of Lisp and arguably the father of modern artificial
intelligence, John McCarthy, died last night. He studied mathematics with
the famous John Nash at Princeton and, notably, held the first “computer-
chess” match between scientists in the US and the USSR. He transmitted the
moves by telegraph.
McCarthy believed AI should be interactive, allowing for a give and take
similar to AI simulators like Eliza and, more recently, Siri. His own labs
were run in an open, free-wheeling fashion, ... 阅读全帖
w*******e
发帖数: 15912
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http://www.wenxuecity.com/news/2011/10/30/1516498.html
一片沸腾!看看美国愤青讨论:
导读:这是从美国某着名军事网站上整理出美国网友关于“假如中美开战”的专题讨论
和跟贴,且看美国的愤青都怎么说吧!
China would win。 We wouldn’t use nukes and they have more people
中国会赢,我们不会使用核武器而他们有更多的人。
sorry buddy, but america is nuke happy and if any one f*cks with them,
about 50 are headed in their direction
对不起,哥们,但美国是非常乐意使用核武器的,谁要敢招美国,就会有50颗弹头对向
他。
You are a f*cking dumbass。 China has been stealing our nuclear military
secrets for years。 For all we know, they could sabotage our... 阅读全帖
o****y
发帖数: 26355
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来自主题: Military版 - 目的已达到,现形就好,关闭
The North Korea has no bargaining chips. US needed China to contain the USSR.
o****y
发帖数: 26355
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来自主题: Military版 - 目的已达到,现形就好,关闭
That was because the aid from the USSR.

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w****2
发帖数: 12072
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来自主题: Military版 - 目的已达到,现形就好,关闭
美国低头是在中国在越南打痛美国之后. 如果中国不出手, 越南连法国佬都搞不定, 更
不要说美国佬了. 一句话, 中国不在越南打, 那美国根本就不会来低头, 即使中国大也
不会来.
而且, 如果美国对北朝鲜低了头, 愿意西方把技术和工业转给北朝鲜(72年美国就愿意
西方对中国转移技术和工业, 只是89年之后才又停止技术转移), 我看好北朝鲜发展比
南朝鲜好.
南街村和华西村比绝大多数农村富, 就说明了即使在邓时代, 坚持毛的也搞得更好. 毛
的中国和北朝鲜完全不同, 一个本质的区别就是西方对中国的封锁被打破, 而朝鲜其实
就是吃亏在这个封锁上. 同样没有封锁的情况下, 北朝鲜比南朝鲜发展不会差.

USSR.
o****y
发帖数: 26355
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来自主题: Military版 - 抗美援朝是TG建国的一部分进程
Those aids were not free, China government paid the USSR back.
o****y
发帖数: 26355
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Follow the trend ah.
After the WWII, the US was so strong, a lot of countries wanted to join the
US organization la.
When the Vietnam War started, the USSR was very strong too, many countries
decided to be just a bystanders.
o****y
发帖数: 26355
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来自主题: Military版 - 老韩家的晚饭
He was not honey-trapped, he just loved money and recruited himself for
spying for USSR. the KGB never recruited him.
g******t
发帖数: 18158
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来自主题: Military版 - 司马南也需要一个学习的过程

呵呵,你没看见/听说过就没有发生过?你没听说过聂凤智因为段苏权告他战报注水被
降职他就没有被降职?照你这逻辑,阿娇还是处女,可能她在陈冠希家拍完照,又立即
穿上裤子打车回家了。军史砖家舍得伸脸,咱就舍得打,这里是扫描的书的出处和作者
简介:
nside the Soviet Army [Hardcover]
Viktor Suvorov (Author)
Hardcover: 296 pages
Publisher: Hamilton; 1 edition (1982)
Language: English
ISBN-10: 0241108896
Born April 20, 1947 (age 64)
Primorsky Krai, USSR
Notable work(s) Aquarium, Icebreaker
Suvorov began his service in the Soviet Army's 41st Guards Tank Division,[1]
and worked in Soviet military intelligence (GRU) be... 阅读全帖
l*****7
发帖数: 8463
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来自主题: Military版 - World Wars
1) WWI-----well known
2) WWII----well known
3) WWIII---the cold war
1950--1990, with the breakdown of USSR and Eastern Europe (it has been an
all-out wars, including millitary, economics and idealogy)
4) USA domination of the world
1990- present.
a) The USA dictates everything in the world, including governments policies, economics and trades, and ....., but not in complete control.
b) USA fights wars and other countries stand-by and watch.
5) Now, The USA is technically bankrupt; all the EU co... 阅读全帖
l*****7
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来自主题: Military版 - World Wars
That sounds deadly, but may not happen at all:-)
The fall of the once all the MIGHTY USSR is a classic example:-)
l*****7
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Correction for your defifition:
The cold war is an all-out war (military, economic, and ideology).
It is actualy the real World War III----The long-lasting confrontation of
the two huge power groups led by USA and USSR, respectly.
G*****h
发帖数: 33134
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USSR 变俄毛了啊
虽然军力下降不少
那些核导弹还是能轰平地球的吧
S*********k
发帖数: 507
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来自主题: Military版 - Vincent Chin
I read about Vincent Chin case from a email list from http://www.80-20initiative.net; thought I'd share here:
Quoting part of the email:
"
There are 3 lessons to learn through Vincent Chin's Tragedy.
If we don't learn them, we are bound to relive it. A similar situation
may be brewing in IL & OH! See the last paragraphs.
A Seldom Seen & Frank Summary of Vincent Chin's Case:
In 1982, owing to perceived loss of jobs caused by Japan, "Japan
bashing" was very popular, especially among auto ... 阅读全帖
o****y
发帖数: 26355
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来自主题: Military版 - idinhk请承认自己的错误
No. It was the other republics in USSR that did not want to stay with Russia.
o****y
发帖数: 26355
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来自主题: Military版 - idinhk请承认自己的错误
The Russia leaders did not want breaking up the USSR either, just ppl of
other republics went to be independent. They did not do anything to prevent
that from happening.
l*****7
发帖数: 8463
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来自主题: Military版 - 真的对汪洋很失望
A new Mikhail Gorbachev in China?????
Mikhail Gorbachev is a hero because he single-handly destroyed USSR which
threatened China and USA:-)
s********i
发帖数: 17328
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苏维埃社会主义共和国联盟(英USSR,俄СССР),简称苏联,于1922年12月30日成
立,1991年12月26日解体。
S*********n
发帖数: 4050
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There were 2 camps, the east and the west. They were at cold war.
For Mao's China, it was totally different. You couldn't get a passport even
if you wanted to visit USSR.
J***M
发帖数: 254
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I am sure the Americans did a lot of shit in the cold war.
But compared to USSR and Mao's China, it's not even a fraction. You have to
get the proportions right.
J***M
发帖数: 254
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It has been the no 1 country for more than 60 years. Any other country in
the same position would have done a lot more harm to the world... remember
USSR?
I acknowledge their foreign policy is often aggressive and counter
productive. But let's not forget US has done a lot of good things for the
international community, such as winning the WWI, the WWII and the cold war.
J***M
发帖数: 254
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I have to say your judgment on USSR is completely off.
The Soviets dealt everyone with an iron fist. This was their way and their
culture. It didn't matter if you are an ally or even one of them.

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p********a
发帖数: 6437
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in modern times
hard to imagine the help rendered by USSR to PRC in 1950s can happen again
that's genuine help
o****y
发帖数: 26355
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来自主题: Military版 - 阿拉伯人确实没前途
That was after USSR was gone.
At 60s and 70s, US had only two allies in the Mideast, Israel and Iran.
Look what happens now.
S*********n
发帖数: 4050
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Kao. 63 years in power, one aircraft carrier, built by USSR, never fired a
single bullet.
What a shame.
c****n
发帖数: 21367
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来自主题: Military版 - 戈尔巴乔夫算被卖了还帮数钱的
所以说你还年轻,不懂政治啊
你知道中国国企曾经很困难对吧,然后大家“改革”以后就好了,对不对?
故事的背后是什么,想想看
把USSR看作一个大企业,假设你是企业家,有“改革”的机会,
你会怎么做?呵呵。
o****y
发帖数: 26355
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But the Soviet Union gave TG hopes ah.
They knew they could build the same country like USSR.
Now nobody wants China to become a country like North Korea.
w*********g
发帖数: 30882
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Japan's navy is not the real problem, but U.S.'s navy.
Japan dares to evoke conflicts not because they are sure they can beat China
but because U.S. navy is standing behind them. This is different from the
situation between China & Vietnam in 1974, given that it was so diffibult
for USSR to maintain a powerful navy in south China sea.
So when I say a powerful navy, it does not mean as powerful as Japan's navy
but more powerful than U.S. navy, especially U.S. navy in western Pacific.
w*********g
发帖数: 30882
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Japan's navy is not the real problem, but U.S.'s navy.
Japan dares to evoke conflicts not because they are sure they can beat China
but because U.S. navy is standing behind them. This is different from the
situation between China & Vietnam in 1974, given that it was so diffibult
for USSR to maintain a powerful navy in south China sea.
So when I say a powerful navy, it does not mean as powerful as Japan's navy
but more powerful than U.S. navy, especially U.S. navy in western Pacific.
J*****D
发帖数: 190
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第一,你可以看看世行在1989年-1990年给前苏联的改革报告,所谓的The economy of
the USSR : Summary and recommendations ,跟china 2030很相似,都是三点:国企
改革,国有银行及土地改革,大力开放资本市场;这是分别的链接:
http://www-wds.worldbank.org/external/default/WDSContentServer/WDSP/IB/2000/01/06/000178830_98101901440338/Rendered/PDF/multi_page.pdf
http://www-wds.worldbank.org/external/default/WDSContentServer/WDSP/IB/2012/02/28/000356161_20120228001303/Rendered/PDF/671790WP0P127500China020300complete.pdf
第二,再说你说的这个中国搞了市场经济很多年的问题。不错,我们市场经济已经搞了
30年,但是,人家搞了几百年至少上百年了,我... 阅读全帖
b****g
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3.2万吨级海上鱼品加工船抵达海南海口
http://www.hq.xinhuanet.com/fina ... ontent_25008281.htm
http://www.hq.xinhuanet.com  2012-04-04 09:19  来源: 南海网
“海南宝沙001号”综合鱼品加工船 南海网记者 罗杰 摄
“海南宝沙001号”综合鱼品加工船工作人员介绍鱼罐头的生产流程。
“海南宝沙001号”综合鱼品加工船工作人员介绍鱼罐头的生产流程。南海网记者 罗杰

4月3日上午,一艘集捕捞、冷冻、生产加工等各种综合鱼类产品为一体,载重吨
位3.2万吨级的“海南宝沙001号”综合鱼品加工船抵达海南省海口港外锚地,并将长期
服务于海南,不久的将来,西南、中沙海域的深海鱼将走上市民的餐桌。
该船是由海南宝沙海洋渔业有限公司、海南豪莱宝沙渔业船务有限公司(中外合作)
、海南宝沙渔业补给保障有限公司与希腊艾斯迪士集团共同投资从国外引进,总投资额
15亿元人民币。具有如此大吨位的综合鱼品生产加工作业线的渔船在国内还是首艘,目
前,在全球也仅有4艘。
记者在“海南宝沙0... 阅读全帖
s**********e
发帖数: 33562
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not as good as in the propaganda. but still amongthe best.
US army should be fine. As for USSR and Japs, do you really think their
discipline is good? kidding?
o****y
发帖数: 26355
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Soviet Union is not a good example. Those republics was forced into the USSR.
a***e
发帖数: 27968
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in a battle, it not matters what casualties is,
it only matters if you hold your ground.
it is a hard win. no question about it.
otherwise USSR lost WWII already, so is china.
r*****y
发帖数: 53800
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heavy tanks were barely used in any battle. north koreans have heavy tanks
at the very beginning, later on chinese also has t-34 from ussr.
air supports are useless at night, pla usually attacked at night
r*****y
发帖数: 53800
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but iran didn't take any us territory, vietname took many chinese territory.
there are many ways to beat the enemy, to win without blood is the finest.
just like how us won cold war against ussr.
o****y
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来自主题: Military版 - 中国崛起了,美国也没衰退
That was long time ago la.
After USSR, Russia is just like this.
Now only China and US has a good sport system for Olympics.
China depends on the government, US depends on its universities.
All other countries have nothing to depends on.
y*h
发帖数: 25423
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来自主题: Military版 - 钓鱼岛的真相总算弄明白了。

俄罗斯其实也从来不是,但是不影响PRC和Russian Federation继承了签字国ROC和USSR
的所有权利和义务。
S***a
发帖数: 3956
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来自主题: Military版 - 钓鱼岛的真相总算弄明白了。
PRC建国的时候已经宣布废除所有不平等条约了。ROC的欠的烂账可是全部都赖了。总不
能光继承权力不继承债务吧。

USSR
s**********n
发帖数: 2343
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来自主题: Military版 - The turning-points of the world powers!!!
Persia turning point: Afghanistan
Tang turning point: Afghanistan
Arab turning point: Afghanistan
UK turning point: Afghanistan
USSR turning point: Afghanistan
USA turning point: Afghanistan

of
l*****7
发帖数: 8463
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中国,美国,俄罗斯 占领日本 (日本一分为三)
Because Japan has bluntly destroyed the WWII treaty and the modern world
order and harmony declared by USA, Russa(USSR), Britan, France and China in
1945.
l*****7
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来自主题: Military版 - 毛泽东是中国第一人!!!
You know nothing about history.
In WWII, 蒋介石 could not win against Japan with the support from
both super powers (USA and USSR/Russia, since 1937) even inside China in the
most recent history!!!!
If you can lead China win big war against USA now or in the near future, I
will respect your opinion. Otherwise, you have to shut your shit up!!!!
o****y
发帖数: 26355
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来自主题: Military版 - 警告:别去招惹美国!!!!!
Too many years la.
USSR is not existed any more.
a*******e
发帖数: 3897
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prc不是ccp建立起来的政体?ccp亡了,ussr还在么?
m**********r
发帖数: 887
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Remember Berlin wall? deposit in in NY, so it would be out of USSR's reach.
-- This is NPR's explanation.
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