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s**e
发帖数: 97
1
你逻辑真的成问题。。。一个在当时的情况下只有她能拿到thallium,一个是很多年后
另一所高校
另一个人thallium下毒。然后你的conclusion是:我们不能肯定第一个人有犯罪嫌疑,
因为大家
都能拿到thalium。。
你不会博士毕业吧?
我有点怀疑你不是知情人了。看来我搞错了,高估你了。sorry, my bad.

poisoning.
inhibits
Sun
took
other
s**e
发帖数: 97
2
你逻辑真的成问题。。。一个在当时的情况下只有她能拿到thallium,一个是很多年后
另一所高校
另一个人thallium下毒。然后你的conclusion是:我们不能肯定第一个人有犯罪嫌疑,
因为大家
都能拿到thalium。。
你不会博士毕业吧?
我有点怀疑你不是知情人了。看来我搞错了,高估你了。sorry, my bad.

poisoning.
inhibits
Sun
took
other
s**e
发帖数: 97
3
你逻辑真的成问题。。。一个在当时的情况下只有她能拿到thallium,一个是很多年后
另一所高校
另一个人thallium下毒。然后你的conclusion是:我们不能肯定第一个人有犯罪嫌疑,
因为大家
都能拿到thalium。。
你不会博士毕业吧?
我有点怀疑你不是知情人了。看来我搞错了,高估你了。sorry, my bad.

poisoning.
inhibits
Sun
took
other
s**e
发帖数: 97
4
你逻辑真的成问题。。。一个在当时的情况下只有她能拿到thallium,一个是很多年后
另一所高校
另一个人thallium下毒。然后你的conclusion是:我们不能肯定第一个人有犯罪嫌疑,
因为大家
都能拿到thalium。。
你不会博士毕业吧?
我有点怀疑你不是知情人了。看来我搞错了,高估你了。sorry, my bad.

poisoning.
inhibits
Sun
took
other
n**n
发帖数: 626
5
来自主题: Headline版 - 朱令铊中毒案引发白宫请愿
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/response/investigating-and-deporting-
jasmine-sun
OFFICIAL WHITE HOUSE RESPONSE TO
Invest and deport Jasmine Sun who was the main suspect of a famous Thallium
poison murder case (victim:Zhu Lin) in China
This response was published on July 28, 2015.
A Response to Your Petition About Investigating and Deporting Jasmine Sun
Thanks for signing this petition concerning Jasmine Sun, a suspect in a
Thallium poison murder case in China.
Zhu Ling's poisoning in 1995 was ... 阅读全帖
j****e
发帖数: 12067
6
【 以下文字转载自 WaterWorld 讨论区 】
发信人: oAmAo84 (奥猫), 信区: WaterWorld
标 题: 新泽西华裔妻子被控以铊毒死丈夫 已被拘
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Wed Feb 9 18:20:11 2011, 美东)
当居住在新泽西州Monroe Township的华裔王小晔Xiaoye Wang(译音)上个月中旬身体感到不
适自行到Priceton医学中心就诊时,他的病情看似很平常,当时王在就诊时向医生描述的病情和
一般性的流感很相似。
从医院就诊后的近两星期的时间,王小晔仍然感觉身体不适,就在上个月25日,经过医院的详细检
查和化验,结果出炉,认定王小晔身体的不适是thallium(铊)中毒。在化验报告出来的第二天,
王小晔就在Princeton医院病逝。
由于王小晔因铊中毒死亡,高度被怀疑是被人下毒,经过新泽西州警方和FBI人员深入调查后,于
今日正式起诉王的妻子Li, Tianle(李天乐)(译音)。
根据警方透露,王的妻子李天乐(译音)在新泽西的Bristol-Myers Squibb担任10年的化学研
究工作,王在近两个月数次... 阅读全帖
m****n
发帖数: 226
7
来自主题: Military版 - 该囤点普鲁士蓝了
大家在网上买的碘其实只能防碘131,不能防铯137。
刚才看到原来铯137只能靠普鲁士蓝。而且普鲁士蓝还可以防铊,大家还是早点到网上
囤点普鲁士蓝吧。
Use of Prussian blue to treat radioactive contamination
Since the 1960s, Prussian blue has been used to treat people who have been
internally contaminated with radioactive cesium (mainly Cs-137) and
nonradioactive thallium (once an ingredient in rat poisons). Doctors can
prescribe Prussian blue at any point after they have determined that a
person who is internally contaminated would benefit from treatment. Prussian
blue... 阅读全帖
j*********n
发帖数: 6034
8
http://m.blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_623e1d290101d5m9.html
这两天因为在微博上看到医患矛盾的争吵,突然有感而发说起16年前的朱令事件。这件
我努力过的事情,并没有像小时候听的童话那样有个美满的结局,所以多年来我一直不
愿意面对。现在想想,还是应该趁大脑排除痛苦回忆的机制彻底发挥作用前,把当年的
事情记述下来。
这篇文章没打算说明什么,只是帮助自己记忆,所以可能拉拉杂杂记述了很多琐事。这
么多年我的记忆也可能出错,我只能保证我是诚实的记述,欢迎知情的朋友补正。
对于朱令事件最简单和准确的概要请见维基百科:
http://zh.wikipedia.org/wiki/朱令铊中毒事件#cite_note-.E9.99.88
关于朱令事件的各种传闻和材料可以参看:
http://www.huaren.us/dispbbs.asp?boardid=331&id=891136&page=1&s
朱令是我的中学同学,我们在初三同班过一年,我对那时的记忆好像只有她是个很正派
的女同学,有次政治考试我撺掇她打小抄对答案,她很不情愿答应了,过程那叫一个手
忙... 阅读全帖
l**********3
发帖数: 10970
9
1991年在美國賓州的赫希城附近發生了一件駭人聽聞的可能謀殺案。1個32歲的白人
Robert Curley一年來覺得身體不適,一天早上突然有劇烈的胸部痛,而被送到急診室
。除了胸痛他漸覺手麻、腳麻。當時他被認為是急性心肌梗塞,但所有檢查沒有顯示是
心臟病,隨即發生神智不清、吞嚥困難、胡言亂語、類似精神錯亂,而住入加護病房治
療。在幾天內病患即死亡。當時的診斷是可能重金屬中毒而致死因為該病人在發病前兩
個月曾在一間大學的化學實驗室作木工的工作。而該實驗室儲存大量的鉈(Thallium)
。病人死前的血液,尿液皆顯示高量的鉈,死後解剖的器管組織也顯示鉈的含量很高,
所以診斷是鉈中毒(Thallium intexication)無誤。但是法醫毒物專家認為只是因工
作不經心的接觸鉈就引起腎臟、肝臟組織中高濃度的鉈是不可思議的。法醫又測死者頭
髮內鉈的含量。結果也是高值的鉈。到底病人是因為工作而意外鉈中毒或是被下毒謀殺
,成為一個謎。病人的屍體發回埋葬,但是事隔幾個月,另外一法醫病理學家,認為鉈
中毒謀殺的成分很重,所以重新掘墓開棺驗屍。因為棺木入水所以整個屍體浮在水中,
但是仍可獲得器官組織... 阅读全帖
l**********3
发帖数: 10970
10
来自主题: Military版 - 北大铊中毒案
那一夜,王小龙想了些什么没人知道。第二天,他再偷出200mg的铊。15日课间他又
去了江林的宿舍,把铊再一次投进江林的杯中。
17日,王小龙听说江林病了,就去宿舍看江林。看到江林的症状后,他意识到铊毒在
江林身上开始发作了,他突然感到害怕,害怕江林会死去。他回实验室关掉仪器后,回
来就拉着江林上医院。江林说已在校医院看过,不想再去了。王小龙拉上江林就走。在
车上,他告诉江林是他下的毒,但有解药,一切法律后果由他负责。江林说,如果有解
药,就说是自己不小心误食的算了。到了中日友好医院,王小龙一见医生就问有没有普
鲁士兰。江林告诉医生他误食了铊毒,但医院仍要做常规检查。王小龙急了,才说出是
他下的毒,让医院赶紧解毒。
第二天,在三○一住院的陆晨光也开始解毒。截止到解毒时,身为班上足球运动员的
陆晨光连站两分钟拍X光片的力气都没有了。
当他不再去考虑别人生命的意义时,一种极度的自私便会无情地扼杀掉人类普遍的
善心
还有一个美国的
1991年在美國賓州的赫希城附近發生了一件駭人聽聞的可能謀殺案。1個32歲的白人
Robert Curley一年來覺得身體不適,一天早上突然有劇烈的胸部痛,而被送到... 阅读全帖
w*********o
发帖数: 3030
11
来自主题: Military版 - 贝志诚能否提供当年的邮件
Is this really the original letter? How does a mystery disease at that time
have anything to do with "freedom and democracy"?
I went through the link. It showed some selected responding emails. One of
the responders actually gave an academic reference of thallium poisoning
from Chinese herbal medicine, which adds more uncertainty of the source of
thallium positioning on zhu since she was taking Chinese medicine according
to all those postings.
l**********3
发帖数: 10970
12
1991年在美國賓州的赫希城附近發生了一件駭人聽聞的可能謀殺案。1個32歲的白
人Robert Curley一年來覺得身體不適,一天早上突然有劇烈的胸部痛,而被送到急診
室。除了胸痛他漸覺手麻、腳麻。當時他被認為是急性心肌梗塞,但所有檢查沒有顯示
是心臟病,隨即發生神智不清、吞嚥困難、胡言亂語、類似精神錯亂,而住入加護病房
治療。在幾天內病患即死亡。當時的診斷是可能重金屬中毒而致死因為該病人在發病前
兩個月曾在一間大學的化學實驗室作木工的工作。而該實驗室儲存大量的鉈(Thallium
)。病人死前的血液,尿液皆顯示高量的鉈,死後解剖的器管組織也顯示鉈的含量很高
,所以診斷是鉈中毒(Thallium intexication)無誤。但是法醫毒物專家認為只是因
工作不經心的接觸鉈就引起腎臟、肝臟組織中高濃度的鉈是不可思議的。法醫又測死者
頭髮內鉈的含量。結果也是高值的鉈。到底病人是因為工作而意外鉈中毒或是被下毒謀
殺,成為一個謎。病人的屍體發回埋葬,但是事隔幾個月,另外一法醫病理學家,認為
鉈中毒謀殺的成分很重,所以重新掘墓開棺驗屍。因為棺木入水所以整個屍體浮在水中
,但是仍可獲得器官組織... 阅读全帖
s**i
发帖数: 4448
13
From Wiki Indeed, thallium poisoning has been called the "poisoner's poison"
since thallium is colorless, odorless and tasteless; its slow-acting,
painful and wide-ranging symptoms are often suggestive of a host of other
illnesses and conditions.[7]
能用铊下毒的,都是深思熟虑过的。
s********n
发帖数: 26222
14
To Whom It May Concern:
I am writing to inform you of a potential fraud made by Ms. WEI SUN (or by
alias SHIYAN SUN) for the purpose of sneaking into your country. SUN, once
the sole prime suspect of an unsolved malicious poisoning case in China, has
been reportedly trying to enter your country under a forged identity. She
is alleged to have her name, date of birth, and family background or
education experience scrambled in order to hide her criminal background.
In 1995, SUN was labeled by polic... 阅读全帖
s********n
发帖数: 26222
15
To Whom It May Concern:
I am writing to inform you of a potential fraud made by Ms. WEI SUN (or by
alias SHIYAN SUN) for the purpose of sneaking into your country. SUN, once
the sole prime suspect of an unsolved malicious poisoning case in China, has
been reportedly trying to enter your country under a forged identity. She
is alleged to have her name, date of birth, and family background or
education experience scrambled in order to hide her criminal background.
In 1995, SUN was labeled by polic... 阅读全帖
s**i
发帖数: 4448
16
来自主题: Military版 - 谁会用自己管辖的药品杀人呢?
相反,能用铊的人是智商相当高的人。
根本就不认为会被发现。
否则李天乐也不会选铊了。
Indeed, thallium poisoning has been called the "poisoner's poison" since
thallium is colorless, odorless and tasteless; its slow-acting, painful and
wide-ranging symptoms are often suggestive of a host of other illnesses and
conditions.[7]
h********n
发帖数: 5
17
来自主题: Military版 - 铊的同位素分析也许有助证据
在看东方卫视2003年的有关朱令案件的视频时,陈振阳教授提到两个峰,判断有两次中
毒。学过大学普通化学,以及生物等学科都知道,同一液态样品,同一物质的叠加一般
只能表现在浓度上,不表现在时间上,除非是一些放射性衰变的物质。如大家都听过但
并不见得熟悉原理的碳十四测化石年代法。当然陈是专家,他们的方法原理可能不同,
有人也说是取头发样,没有更多信息,不做评论。
上网查了一下铊的同位素isotope ,http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thallium
有多种同位素,其中稳定的有铊203,和铊205,放射性的有铊201(半哀期72小时)铊
202(半衰期12天)铊204(半衰期3.8年。放射性的铊须特别制备,须高能物理方法,
非化学方式能得到。不知在九十年代中国有没有铊这方面的研究。
稳定的铊203 和205在地球上的平均自然丰度natural abandance一般是29.5:71.5.
http://www.webelements.com/thallium/isotopes.html
但是因为地理,来源矿源不同,丰度有些偏差。 http://eprints.so... 阅读全帖
T**********e
发帖数: 29576
18
The Atlantic
What Can We Learn from China's College Murders?
Liang Pan Apr 24 2013, 12:30 PM ET
On April 16, 2013, while the attention of the world and the U.S. media was
gripped by the Boston Marathon bombings, Chinese news outlets and social
media were captured by horrors of another kind: Huang Yang, a medical
science graduate student at Shanghai's prestigious Fudan University, was
poisoned to death, and the prime suspect is his roommate.
Bad news travels in pairs. Almost on the same day, one ... 阅读全帖
T**********e
发帖数: 29576
19

http://file.lw23.com/e/eb/ebf/ebf0e927-5a4c-40be-a966-62b573a86
Read the beginning of the article:
1995年3月8日又开始出现强烈的脚痛.痛得不敢触爱任何物品。遮一次比上一次更为严
重.病情发展很快.累及腰部。去某医院神经科检查.人院时两手指甲有明显的Mees纹
.怀疑过有铊中毒的可能.被收进病痔 人院后病情继续发展
Mees' lines appear after an episode of poisoning with arsenic,[1] thallium
or other heavy metals, and can also appear if the subject is suffering from
renal failure.
Figure 2
 Erosion of proximal parts of nails following thallium poisoning (
photograph taken on 37th day).
l*********1
发帖数: 772
20
确实有资料提到过这个追求不成功的事,但是没有引起很多注意:
The following message has been posted at
http://www.radsci.ucla.edu/telemed/zhuling/bulletin
by: Robert A. Fink, M. D. Neurosurgeon
Topic: homicide attempt
A recent article appeared in "U. S. Medicine" regarding the
work of Dr. Steve Cunnion, a U. S. Navy physician, which states
that a report has been made to the Bureau of Public Security in
China, alleging that Zhu Ling's thallium poisoning was the result
of an attempted murder. It was further alleged that the
perp... 阅读全帖
l**********3
发帖数: 10970
21
贴给你。
1991年在美國賓州的赫希城附近發生了一件駭人聽聞的可能謀殺案。1個32歲的白
人Robert Curley一年來覺得身體不適,一天早上突然有劇烈的胸部痛,而被送到急診
室。除了胸痛他漸覺手麻、腳麻。當時他被認為是急性心肌梗塞,但所有檢查沒有顯示
是心臟病,隨即發生神智不清、吞嚥困難、胡言亂語、類似精神錯亂,而住入加護病房
治療。在幾天內病患即死亡。當時的診斷是可能重金屬中毒而致死因為該病人在發病前
兩個月曾在一間大學的化學實驗室作木工的工作。而該實驗室儲存大量的鉈(Thallium
)。病人死前的血液,尿液皆顯示高量的鉈,死後解剖的器管組織也顯示鉈的含量很高
,所以診斷是鉈中毒(Thallium intexication)無誤。但是法醫毒物專家認為只是因
工作不經心的接觸鉈就引起腎臟、肝臟組織中高濃度的鉈是不可思議的。法醫又測死者
頭髮內鉈的含量。結果也是高值的鉈。到底病人是因為工作而意外鉈中毒或是被下毒謀
殺,成為一個謎。病人的屍體發回埋葬,但是事隔幾個月,另外一法醫病理學家,認為
鉈中毒謀殺的成分很重,所以重新掘墓開棺驗屍。因為棺木入水所以整個屍體浮在水中
,但是仍可獲... 阅读全帖
p***y
发帖数: 239
22
I guess the source of thallium can be identified by the abundance of
thallium isotopes, which is like a fingerprint of a substance.
n*****9
发帖数: 654
23
看铊坚强们对这么一小段文章都理解不了,我翻译一下吧,见笑:
A recent article appeared in "U. S. Medicine" regarding the
work of Dr. Steve Cunnion, a U. S. Navy physician, which states
that a report has been made to the Bureau of Public Security in
China, alleging that Zhu Ling's thallium poisoning was the result
of an attempted murder. It was further alleged that the
perpetrator was a jilted suitor and that the source of the thallium
was *not* the laboratory in which Zhu Ling worked.
最近一个文章出现在 “美国医学”杂志上,这是海军医生. Steve Cunnion... 阅读全帖
s********n
发帖数: 2939
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来自主题: Military版 - 普鲁士蓝解毒机理
为什么一帮人就喜欢动嘴皮子不喜欢动手狗一下?明明说了是Fe4[Fe(CN)6]3,哪来的
钾?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prussian_blue
Prussian blue
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
This article is about the pigment. For the musical duo, see Prussian Blue.
See also: Midnight blue
Prussian blue
IUPAC name[hide]
Iron(II,III) hexacyanoferrate(II,III)
Other names[hide]
Berlin blue
Ferric ferrocyanide
Ferric hexacyanoferrate
Iron(III) ferrocyanide
Iron(III) hexacyanoferrate(II)
Parisian blue
Identifiers
CAS number 14038-43-8
PubChem ... 阅读全帖
n***n
发帖数: 84
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来自主题: Military版 - 朱令案得重大消息!!!
Invest and deport Jasmine Sun who was the main suspect of a famous Thallium
poison murder case (victim:Zhu Lin) in China
In 1995, Zhu Ling as a Tsinghua university student was found out to be
purposely poisoned twice by lethal chemical: Thallium, which leads to her
permanent paralysis. It was indicated that Sun, her roommate, had the motive
, and access to the deadly chemical. Jasmine Sun was investigated by police
as suspect in 1997. But resources show that the case was mystically closed
due to... 阅读全帖
u*l
发帖数: 1943
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Invest and deport Jasmine Sun who was the main suspect of a famous Thallium
poison murder case
https://petitions.whitehouse.gov/petition/invest-and-deport-jasmine-sun-who-
was-main-suspect-famous-thallium-poison-murder-case-victimzhu-lin/Rd8C54p1
被嫌疑人已经获得美国绿卡,很快就入籍了。
不管被嫌疑人是否真犯罪,首要的是让她回国受审,而不是潜逃美国,逍遥法外。
离10W还差3W多的票。
我是坚决希望真凶早日伏法! 乃我国我民我等之幸事!
否则,投毒杀人而不受罚,仿效者必滋生,难保下一个被毒的就是你我及亲人朋友。
T**********e
发帖数: 29576
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来自主题: Military版 - 哪个ID写的请愿,标题都拼错了
这几行子,十几个错别子,时态错误,惨不忍睹.
Invest and deport Jasmine Sun who was the main suspect of a famous Thallium
poison murder case (victim:Zhu Lin) in China
In 1995, Zhu Ling as a Tsinghua university student was found out to be
purposely poisoned twice by lethal chemical: Thallium, which leads to her
permanent paralysis. It was indicated that Sun, her roommate, had the motive
, and access to the deadly chemical. Jasmine Sun was investigated by police
as suspect in 1997. But resources show that the case was m... 阅读全帖
l********u
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什么是invest啊?
什么是“we petite that”啊?
Petition的动词就是petition, petite是“小”的意思,不是petition的动词形式。
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/petition
那才叫Chinglish!
通篇无一可取得句子。
Invest and deport Jasmine Sun who was the main suspect of a famous Thallium
poison murder case (victim:Zhu Lin) in China
In 1995, Zhu Ling as a Tsinghua university student was found out to be
purposely poisoned twice by lethal chemical: Thallium, which leads to her
permanent paralysis. It was indicated that Sun, her roommate, had the ... 阅读全帖
s****e
发帖数: 392
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路人都看不下去了。 孙党们都不读完全文吗?收到约2000封回复,看了不到一半就有
近100回复建议thallium中毒。从那里能得到比例是 100/2000?
"Sifting through nearly half of the 2,000 responses, he found nearly 100
physicians and chemists who suggested thallium toxicity."
l********u
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George J. So, Xin Li, Hooshang Kangarloo, Richard Steckel, Daniel J.
Valentino
UCLA Medical Center, Department of Radiological Sciences 10833 Le Conte, Los
Angeles, California 90024
1. ABSTRACT
Recent advances in telecommunications via the Internet have significantly
improved international communication. We report a case of teleconsultation
using the World Wide Web (WWW) and related technologies on the internet to
facilitate the successful diagnosis and treatment of a rare illness that
occurred ... 阅读全帖
r***n
发帖数: 553
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当时用的是linux 或者其它 类-unix 操作系统
看这照片就知道了
所谓“编一个程序过滤Thallium”,其实很简单
就是 cat all emails| grep Thallium|wc
一句就搞定了
(最多搞个循环,把所有的信遍历一遍,实在是菜鸟啊!)
x****u
发帖数: 12955
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来自主题: Military版 - 有人造谣说铊不是清华的

Well, now isn't that interesting. There are a lot of people who claimed
Beijing police department had already determined that the Thallium in Zhu's
body matches Thallium from Qinghua. That's why they limited the suspect to
someone in Qinghua.
Guess you just slapped them hard.
x****u
发帖数: 12955
33
来自主题: Military版 - 朱令案铊轮永远不能解释的问题

It is you who are always putting coincidences together as proof. Thallium
poisoning by ingestion can produce vision loss. That's a fact. Thallium
laced contact lens fluid causing vision loss is just an unproven suggestion
made by a lawyer.
If you can't tell which is more believable, then it only means you don't
know how to use your brain.
k******1
发帖数: 1393
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来自主题: Military版 - 我老决定也来趟个浑水
UCLA的一个中国学生和老师帮忙确定是铊中毒。贝志城应该是个中间联络的人,他的同
学,还有UCLA的老师学生都做出了很大的贡献。要说贝志城吹牛抢功可能是有的,但是
说互联网救助是骗局是纯粹放屁。得多牛逼的人才能让那么多跟此事相关的人一起骗。
下面是LA time 1995年的一个新闻:
A graduate student at UCLA has combined the Internet, computer technology
and medical sciences to help treat a 21-year-old woman, Zhu Ling, who lay
comatose in a hospital thousands of miles away in China.
Xin Li, a graduate student in the department of radiological sciences,
received e-mail messages from Zhu Ling's friends in China, who were seeking
the ... 阅读全帖
m******r
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是的。铊中毒就其本身来说症状是非常独特的,大概就像一说起溶液变蓝就想起硫酸铜
一样。不是说连协和自己都一开始就怀疑是铊中毒么,后来因为ZL家属说没有铊接触史
而排除了。

>ZHU LINGS PROBLEMS SOUND LIKE THALLIUM POISONING THE COMBINATION OF ACUTE
HAIR
> >LOSS, GASTROINTESTINAL AND NEUROLOGICAL PROBLEMS IS ALMOST PATHOGNOMONIC.



YOU SHOULD BE ABLE TO DETECT THALLIUM IN THE HAIR WITH A MASS SPECTROMETER I

> >WOULD HAVE THOUGHT.
T**********e
发帖数: 29576
36

LOL, did the author describe the dosage of the thallium? solubility? taste?
maximum tolerated dose? topical use?
The Pale Horse
"Mrs Oliver now contacts Mark with a key connection that she has made:
another victim of the Pale Horse (Mary Delafontaine) has lost her hair
during her illness. The same thing happened to Lady Hesketh-Dubois, and
Thomasina's hair was easily pulled out during the fight. Moreover, Ginger
has begun to shed her own hair. Mark recognises that these are symptoms, not
of sat... 阅读全帖
Z**S
发帖数: 1211
37
Never read it. From what was described by others there seems to
be a lot of details in the book, which may even allow a layman to
carry out the crime (most chemistry undergraduates should not
have this knowledge), if he/she can obtain the thallium salt.
It is weird that Chen Zhenyang does not like the idea to re-examine
ZL's hair. I think he is not so confident about his analysis and does
not want to get a public embarrassment. The time and dosage
distribution of thallium in ZL's hair is very v... 阅读全帖
Z**S
发帖数: 1211
38
Read it the other day, but could not find the source now.
People in ZL Fundation wanted to fund a re-analysis of
ZL's hair abroad, but Chen discouraged them from doing so.
I personally think Chen is a so-so chemist, ZL's hair should be
re-analyzed in fragments for temporal and dosage distribution
of thallium, and for the presence of any significant heavy metal
contaminations that may allow the identification of thallium
source, i.e. whether it came from pure salt or rat poison,
whether it is pos... 阅读全帖
Z**S
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Actually, there are now thallium sensitive fluorescent dyes available.
Can someone send the link below to ZL's parents? They may be
able to do the experiment in their home by first soak the hair in this dye,
rinse the excess away, shine UV light over the hair, and then take a picture
.
http://cttc.co/cttc/technology/synthesis-thallium-sensitive-flu

,
k*******2
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40
You made a mistake and you just can not face it. Come on, be a man. Don't
change topic whenever you made a mistake. Just face it.
This is what you said:
"We are not talking about this "some toxic material" you are referring to,
are we?We are talking about Thallium, "
However, in your previous comments, you said:
"Anything can be toxic in high enough concentration, and anything can be
harmless at low enough concentration. From harmless to fatal, you pass
through "irritation" first."
Obviously yo... 阅读全帖
U*******d
发帖数: 299
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来自主题: Military版 - 朱令案在LA Time头版
我电邮latimes了,link的文章至少只是在Home Edition, Main News, Page A-6 发表
过。
Yes, it did appear in print.
here is a copy of the story.
regards,
Don
Total Documents: 1
05/12/2013 1990s mystery rises anew in China
Los Angeles Times
Sunday, May 12, 2013
1990s mystery rises anew in China
* Recent outrage over the poisoning of a university student highlights the
growing power of social media.
Home Edition, Main News, Page A-6
Foreign Desk
27 inches; 1105 words
By Don Lee,
BEIJING -- She was a promising student... 阅读全帖
s*******l
发帖数: 8210
42
来自主题: Military版 - 朱令案在LA Time头版
在mycapture买的那个来源只有你们自己明白的照片原来是与LA times blog 里的文章
一模一样啊?看来,ps一个题目就可以搞成头版头条了哈。
太牛逼了,越来越明白了,原来就是把下面的文章标题换了一下,就这么ps成了头版头
条哈。
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-unsolved-my
一模一样的内容,弄一个不一样的标题就可以 ps 成头版头条。 太牛逼了,太可耻了

Unsolved mystery of woman's poisoning stokes passions in China
BEIJING — She was a promising student at Beijing's prestigious Tsinghua
University, a talented musician who loved to swim and dreamed of studying
German and computer science.
But in her sophomore year, Zhu Li... 阅读全帖
k******1
发帖数: 1393
43
来自主题: Military版 - 贝铊危险了
你能不能停止造谣,下面这个帖子我已经发第三遍了,我相信你看见过,还以为你知错
就改可以救药,没料到还是狗改不了吃屎。
UCLA的一个中国学生和老师帮忙确定是铊中毒。贝志城应该是个中间联络的人,他的同
学,还有UCLA的老师学生都做出了很大的贡献。要说贝志城吹牛抢功可能是有的,但是
说互联网救助是骗局是纯粹放屁。得多牛逼的人才能让那么多跟此事相关的人一起骗。
下面是LA time 1995年的一个新闻:
A graduate student at UCLA has combined the Internet, computer technology
and medical sciences to help treat a 21-year-old woman, Zhu Ling, who lay
comatose in a hospital thousands of miles away in China.
Xin Li, a graduate student in the department of radiological sciences,
received e-mail messa... 阅读全帖
s*******l
发帖数: 8210
44
来自主题: Military版 - 造谣惯犯stillwell被打脸
从mycapture 寄来的吧? 我还以为是latimes 寄来的呢! 对了, 先让大家熟悉熟
悉这mycapure是个什么公司吧。 这公司就是用户可以把自己弄的照片post到它的服务
器后互相交流和买卖。 是一个business model, 下面是它的链接,大家看看了。
http://secondstreet.com/products/mycapture/overview/
其实,你在mycapture买的那个来源只有你们自己明白的照片原来是与LA times blog
里的文章一模一样啊?看来,ps一个题目就可以搞成头版头条了哈。
太牛逼了,越来越明白了,原来就是把下面的文章标题换了一下,就这么ps成了头版头
条哈。
http://www.latimes.com/news/world/worldnow/la-fg-wn-unsolved-my
一模一样的内容,弄一个不一样的标题就可以 ps 成头版头条。 太牛逼了,太可耻了

Unsolved mystery of woman's poisoning stokes passions in China
BEIJING — She... 阅读全帖
x****u
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45
来自主题: Military版 - 美国孙维被定罪了

You are blind if you think these are weaker evidence than in Sun Wei's case.
1. There were never a confirmed motive for Sun Wei to poison Zhu.
Li Tianle's husband was divorcing her, and she didn't want to go through
with it.
2. There was never any evidence that Sun Wei obtained any Thallium.
Record clearly shown Li Tianle ordered Thallium, and she used up 90% of what
was ordered when her work does not require it.
3. Sun Wei didn't do anything before, during and after the poisoning of Zhu
became... 阅读全帖
c*****g
发帖数: 21627
46
【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: lczlcz (lcz), 信区: USANews
标 题: NJ: 毒杀亲夫的李天乐被判无期徒刑
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 30 13:29:42 2013, 美东)
Life in prison for NJ chemist who poisoned husband
September 30, 2013 - 12:36 PM
Associated Press
NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J. (AP) — A Chinese-born chemist who worked for a decade
for one of America's biggest pharmaceutical companies was a cold,
calculating murderer who poisoned her husband rather than let him divorce
her, a judge said Monday as he sentenced her to life in prison... 阅读全帖
s*****r
发帖数: 11545
47
It mentions Thallium. Anyone who has watched this film will immediately
realize that Zhu Ling was poisoned with Thallium.
It looks that America has an ugly history in food and drug regulation. The
awful thing is... Radium was widely used and promoted in food, drug, and
cosmetic products. The girls making the watch with radium actually sharped
their painting pens with their lips.
b********n
发帖数: 38600
48
Waste Water from Oil Fracking Injected into Clean Aquifers
http://www.nbcbayarea.com/investigations/Waste-Water-from-Oil-F
"They lie, cheat, and steal without rest."
State officials allowed oil and gas companies to pump nearly three billion
gallons of waste water into underground aquifers that could have been used
for drinking water or irrigation.
Those aquifers are supposed to be off-limits to that kind of activity,
protected by the EPA.
“It’s inexcusable,” said Hollin Kretzmann, at the Center ... 阅读全帖
B*V
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49
来自主题: Talk版 - 北大铊中毒案
那一夜,王小龙想了些什么没人知道。第二天,他再偷出200mg的铊。15日课间他又
去了江林的宿舍,把铊再一次投进江林的杯中。
17日,王小龙听说江林病了,就去宿舍看江林。看到江林的症状后,他意识到铊毒在
江林身上开始发作了,他突然感到害怕,害怕江林会死去。他回实验室关掉仪器后,回
来就拉着江林上医院。江林说已在校医院看过,不想再去了。王小龙拉上江林就走。在
车上,他告诉江林是他下的毒,但有解药,一切法律后果由他负责。江林说,如果有解
药,就说是自己不小心误食的算了。到了中日友好医院,王小龙一见医生就问有没有普
鲁士兰。江林告诉医生他误食了铊毒,但医院仍要做常规检查。王小龙急了,才说出是
他下的毒,让医院赶紧解毒。
第二天,在三○一住院的陆晨光也开始解毒。截止到解毒时,身为班上足球运动员的
陆晨光连站两分钟拍X光片的力气都没有了。
当他不再去考虑别人生命的意义时,一种极度的自私便会无情地扼杀掉人类普遍的
善心
还有一个美国的
1991年在美國賓州的赫希城附近發生了一件駭人聽聞的可能謀殺案。1個32歲的白人
Robert Curley一年來覺得身體不適,一天早上突然有劇烈的胸部痛,而被送到... 阅读全帖
D*V
发帖数: 3096
50
【 以下文字转载自 USANews 讨论区 】
发信人: lczlcz (lcz), 信区: USANews
标 题: NJ: 毒杀亲夫的李天乐被判无期徒刑
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Sep 30 13:29:42 2013, 美东)
Life in prison for NJ chemist who poisoned husband
September 30, 2013 - 12:36 PM
Associated Press
NEW BRUNSWICK, N.J. (AP) — A Chinese-born chemist who worked for a decade
for one of America's biggest pharmaceutical companies was a cold,
calculating murderer who poisoned her husband rather than let him divorce
her, a judge said Monday as he sentenced her to life in prison.... 阅读全帖
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