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l**********t
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 【基要派版本】罗马书3:21-24

21. But now the righteousness of God without the law [109] is manifested,
being witnessed by the law and the prophets;
"
21. But now without the law, etc. It is not certain for what distinct reason
he calls that the righteousness of God, which we obtain by faith; whether
it be, because it can alone stand before God, or because the Lord in his
mercy confers it on us. As both interpretations are suitable, we contend for
neither. This righteousness then, which God communicates to man, and
accepts ... 阅读全帖
w******g
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在我之前的贴子里就说过,俄利根是引用别人的说法,你现在倒好像发现新大陆一样。
所以说你这个人好为人师真是一点都没错。请引述别人著作的时候,一定要引述全了。
你为什么只引用3和4,不敢往下了呢?
这个东西往下很长,我姑且全部放在这里:
But we should not think that it applies to every man. For, not every man "
goes down from Jerusalem into Jericho," nor do all dwell in this present
world for that reason, even if he who "was sent on account of the lost sheep
of the house of Israel" went down. Hence, the man who "went down from
Jerusalem into Jericho" "fell among robbers" because he himself wished to go
down. But t... 阅读全帖
r********7
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 两个狙击手的初次较量
Introduction He was not human, and then became God, but he was God, and then
became human, in order to deify us. (Or. Ar. 1:39) 故此,他不是一个变成神的
人。而是,神成为人,为了使我们能被神化。。。 Pg 54
Athanasius argues the characterization of the Son as a creature means that
our initiation into divine life in baptism is actually into a hybrid mixture
of Creator and creature. 亚他拿修争辩将(神)子归为受造之物意表我们在受浸中
开始进入神圣的生命实际上是进入了一个造物主和被造之物的混合体。 Pg.77
What the Scriptures indicate is that Father, Son, and Spirit all share in
the divine work... 阅读全帖
J*H
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Jimmy Carter served as the 39th president of the United States, founded the
Carter Center and was awarded the Nobel Peace Prize. President Carter is
also a Sunday School teacher and has followed that avocation since his
earliest years. In this interview, HuffPost's Senior Religion Editor Paul
Brandeis Raushenbush spoke to President Carter by phone about the hardest
questions presented in the Bible: from gays, science, the role of women,
slavery passages and more. The former president offered ans... 阅读全帖
C*****e
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费氏要理问答 63-64
THE
SHORTER CATECHISM
EXPLAINED
QUESTION 63. Which is the Fifth Commandment?
ANSWER: The Fifth Commandment is, Honour thy father and thy mother; that thy
days may be long upon the land which the Lord thy God giveth thee.
QUESTION 64. What is required in the Fifth Commandment?
ANSWER: The Fifth Commandment requireth the preserving the honour, and
performing the duties, belonging to every one in their several places and
relations, as superiors, inferiors, or equals.
Q. 1. "Who are mea... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 你爷爷生了你爸爸,你爸爸生了你

关于原罪和给婴儿受洗的实践,摩门经里面有更详细的描述,说的很清楚的。
http://scriptures.lds.org/zh/moro/8
奥古斯丁大概也是苦于没有神的更多启示,自己才琢磨出来的这个主意。我觉得也不能
全怪他。原罪的问题在基督教派之间引起很大的争议和分裂,造成的不合自古就有。当
约瑟史密祷告求问神,到底哪一个教派是他嘉许的,难怪神说,都是错的,命令约瑟史
密建立一个新的。
http://scriptures.lds.org/zh/js_h/1
E******u
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【 以下文字转载自 AmazingGrace 俱乐部 】
发信人: Esquimau (雪门院), 信区: AmazingGrace
标 题: 再读约翰洛克《论宗教宽容》之札记
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 17 16:57:17 2012, 美东)
过去中学里读约翰洛克的《论宗教宽容》(商务印书馆汉译名著版),有两个感受:第
一,这本小书(其实是一封信)是汉译哲学名著里最容易读的一本,一个小时就可以看
完。第二,约翰洛克很具有宽容的精神,这位几百年前的哲学家的对于政府职责、个人
信仰、宗教目的的认识水平,依旧大大地超过了今天世界上很多国家和地区的大部分人
们。所以这本书出版于1680年代的书依旧有着非常现实和教育的意义。
最近又重读了这本书,由于我最近自己有了一些宗教方面的认识,所以在John Locke的
书中读到了一些第一次读没有注意到的细节:
第一个细节,洛克的宗教宽容的号召大体上是限于protestant新教内部、乃至于对于伊
斯兰教和犹太教也应该提倡宗教宽容,但是对于天主教和无神论者,洛克的提议是无须
宽容,理由如下:
对于天主教:That church... 阅读全帖
C*****e
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 吕沛渊牧师圣经无误课程大纲
http://blog.sina.com.cn/s/blog_622134fd01015cbh.html
【 以下文字转载自 Church 俱乐部 】
发信人: CCBible (神同在圣经), 信区: Church
标 题: 吕沛渊牧师圣经无误课程大纲
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Fri Apr 20 20:14:00 2012, 美东)
聖經無誤Biblical Inerrancy Lecture Outlines
Session 1: Introduction: Understanding Biblical Inerrancy導論:認識「聖經無誤

1. Understanding Bible as the Redemptive Revelation聖經是救贖啟示
1.1 Preliminary Remarks: “Special Revelation”前言:「特殊啟示」
1.2 Necessity of Redemptive Revelation救贖啟示的必須
1.3 Redemptive Revelation as Progressive救贖啟示是漸進的
1.4 Co... 阅读全帖
C*****e
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 海德堡要理问答主日32
【 以下文字转载自 Church 俱乐部 】
发信人: CCBible (神同在圣经), 信区: Church
标 题: 海德堡要理问答主日32
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 24 12:33:53 2012, 美东)
海德堡要理问答主日32
来自基督徒百科
目录
1 英文版
2 英文2011版
3 赵中辉版
4 陈达/王志勇版
5 基督教要义圣经真理版
6 链接参考
英文版
The Third Part - Of Thankfulness
32. Lord's Day
Q. 86.
Since then we are delivered from our misery, merely of grace, through Christ
, without any merit of ours, why must we still do good works?
A.
Because Christ, having redeemed and delivered us by his blood, also renews u
s by his Holy Spirit, afte... 阅读全帖
C*****e
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Glossary to the Westminster Confession
【 以下文字转载自 Church 俱乐部 】
发信人: CCBible (神同在圣经), 信区: Church
标 题: Glossary to the Westminster Confession
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Tue Apr 24 21:16:33 2012, 美东)
Glossary to the Westminster Confession
Explanations of all archaic and uncommon words, usages, and expressions, in
the order in which they occur.
Title Confession. n. Public statement of religious beliefs.
1.1 Providence. n. Divine care. Manifest. v. Show. Are they. idiom. T
hey are. Unto. prep. With regard to. Sundry. adj. Separate. D... 阅读全帖
m****a
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Mormon 卡通

圣经旧约并不全的,保存以及历史原因,有些地方有遗漏,我们教会相信神会继续通过
先知启示人,这一部分在这里有进一步补充:
http://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/moses?lang=zho
http://www.lds.org/scriptures/pgp/abr?lang=zho
可以参照旧约部分读,看看补充了什么地方。
h*****b
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 圣经无误之什么是圣经无误
谪一段天主教所认为的inerrancy:
"The early Fathers held that the Bible was inerrant. The Catholic and
Orthodox Churches affirm this as well. However, this is the case only when
the Bible is properly understood, interpreted by the Church. This is
inerrancy by ancient standards and not modern, fundamentalist standards. The
early Fathers did not think that minor contradictions rendered the Bible
errant, nor did they insist all stories were meant to be interpreted
literally. For instance, the creation stories ... 阅读全帖
l**********t
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good point
"
Of course, Jesus, the word become flesh (John 1:1,14) is not a created thing
.
Nevertheless, there is a Greek word for "first created" and it was in use at
the time of Paul's writing to the Colossians. He did not use it here. The
Greek for "firstborn" is proto with tikto which would give us "firstborn"
and that is what we find here in Colossians 1:15. The Greek for "first
created" would be proto with ktizo and it is not used here.
Second, the biblical use of the word "firstborn"... 阅读全帖
m****a
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Words of the Prophets(一问)

我们的标准经文,除了圣经,摩门经--这些古代先知的记载,现代的先知接收的启示,
收录在教义与圣约和无价珍珠里面。
http://scriptures.lds.org/zh/contents
在教义与圣约中,你会找到其他一些先知所接受的启示,其中一位先知--约瑟F史密会
长,在1918年,接受到有关没有听见福音的人如何得救,对圣经原来相关经文的解释。
http://scriptures.lds.org/zh/dc/138
我们教会其实是有很多奇迹的,只不过教会不到处声张罢了。先知看见的异象,接受的
启示,都是奇迹。我认为教会的建立经过,本身就是奇迹。
其实每个人从相信主耶稣,重生得救,不也是奇迹吗?神在人需要的时候通
过各种方式方法帮助所有愿意寻求他的人,也是奇迹。
信主不能单纯靠奇迹,而是凭着信心的建立和不断的巩固加强,跟神订立圣约,遵守神
的诫命和忍耐到底。
s******l
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首先想问下,这个东西是否能代表天主教的官方观点,感觉这个很震撼,说了我不敢说
的话。
http://www.chinacath.org/book/html/131/7714.html
引用如下:
圣经的无误性
shèngjīng dė wúwùxìng
SCRIPTURE, INERRANCY OF
参阅: 571圣经 575圣经灵感 572圣经正典 472启示 414教会不可错误性 573圣经批判学
(一)概念说明:
无误性inerrancy和不可错误性infallibility有时混合着用,好像可以互替。但严格说
来,无误性是指圣经中的天主启示的特色,不可错误性却是指教会训导权的特色;严格
而论,这二种特色互相有关系,但却属于不同层面。
本文专讲圣经的无误性。按照一般的了解,说圣经没有错误,是因为圣经是天主的话。
天主不能自骗,也不能骗人,因此祂藉圣神在圣经中所说的话不能有错,也不能说谎。
由十九世纪末教宗所公布的通谕均如此了解圣经的无误性,如《上智的天主》(《圣经
文献选集》,Enchiridion Biblicum简称EB, 124,125号);《施慰之神》(EB 4... 阅读全帖
s******l
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首先想问下,这个东西是否能代表天主教的官方观点,感觉这个很震撼,说了我不敢说
的话。
http://www.chinacath.org/book/html/131/7714.html
引用如下:
圣经的无误性
shèngjīng dė wúwùxìng
SCRIPTURE, INERRANCY OF
参阅: 571圣经 575圣经灵感 572圣经正典 472启示 414教会不可错误性 573圣经批判学
(一)概念说明:
无误性inerrancy和不可错误性infallibility有时混合着用,好像可以互替。但严格说
来,无误性是指圣经中的天主启示的特色,不可错误性却是指教会训导权的特色;严格
而论,这二种特色互相有关系,但却属于不同层面。
本文专讲圣经的无误性。按照一般的了解,说圣经没有错误,是因为圣经是天主的话。
天主不能自骗,也不能骗人,因此祂藉圣神在圣经中所说的话不能有错,也不能说谎。
由十九世纪末教宗所公布的通谕均如此了解圣经的无误性,如《上智的天主》(《圣经
文献选集》,Enchiridion Biblicum简称EB, 124,125号);《施慰之神》(EB 4... 阅读全帖
m****a
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 永不放弃(zz)
今早读我们教会的杂志,其中一篇是一对夫妇的见证,妻子35年前信了主,而丈夫35年
之后才信的。他们的感受经历究竟怎样?这告诉那些一方是基督徒,另一方不是基督徒
的夫妻,不能“同负一枙”也是暂时的,信主的一方应该怎样做呢?不信的一方也是能
改变的。永远不要放弃希望和良性积极的努力。
Never Give Up
By Al and Eva Fry
A husband and wife tell of their conversions to the gospel of Jesus
Christ—35 years apart.
Never Give Up
Her Story
For 35 years I hoped and waited for my husband to become a member of the
Church. Those long years were full of heartfelt prayers, but three prayers
in particular were memorable turning points in my experience... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 圣餐
路加福音
22:19- 又拿起饼来祝谢了,就擘开递给他们,说,这是我的身体,为你们舍的。你们
也应当如此行,为的是记念我。
22:20- 饭后也照样拿起杯来,说,这杯是用我血所立的新约,是为你们流出来的。
摩门经尼绯三书:18章,20章
http://scriptures.lds.org/zh/3_ne/18
http://scriptures.lds.org/zh/3_ne/20
1 事情是這樣的,耶穌命令祂的門徒拿些麵包和葡萄酒來給祂。
2 他們去拿麵包和葡萄酒的時候,祂命令群眾坐在地上。
3 門徒把麵包和葡萄酒拿來後,祂拿起麵包,擘開來祝福了,就給門徒,命令他們吃。
4 他們吃了且吃夠了,祂就命令他們拿給群眾。
5 群眾吃了且吃夠了,祂便對門徒說:看啊,我要按立你們當中一人,賜他權力,他要
擘麵包,祝福麵包,並給我教會的人民,給所有相信我名並奉我名受洗的人。
6 這件事你們要常常遵行,像我所行的一樣,就是像我剛才擘麵包,祝福麵包,並給你
們那樣。
7 你們應當這樣做,以記得我的身體,這身體我已給你們看了。這樣也是要向父證明,
你們一直記得我。如果你們一直記得我,就必有我的靈與你們... 阅读全帖
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提后 3:16 圣经都是 神所默示的(或作“凡 神所默示的圣经”),于教训、督责、使
人归正、教导人学义都是有益的
大家看到这段经文,都会奇怪,为何有个括号呢,原因就是这个原文翻译本身就有歧义。
也就是说可以能有两种不同的意思:
1)圣经都是 神所默示的。。。。。。都是有益的。
相应英文:[例如KJV] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and 。。。
。。。is profitable
2)凡 神所默示的圣经。。。。。。都是有益的。
相应英文:[例如ASV] Every scripture inspired of God [is] 。。。。。。also
profitable
而这第二个意思,就是说,凡是神所默示的圣经才是有益的,而不是神所默示的圣经,
则可能不全是有益的。有些人认为所谓不是神所默示的圣经,是指次经和/或伪经。
这两个意思,连和合本圣经译者都不敢擅自删掉一个,还要用括号注明,那么版上的同
修能保证自己比和合本的专业学者还高明,就给去掉一个?
退一步讲,就算第一个意思是对的,那么这里的“圣经”显然不是全部圣经,因为保... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Mormon and Modern(zz)
While it was once an integral part of the landscape of society, the place of
religious belief in public space is now frequently contested by polarized
ideological camps. But the categories of faith and reason, scripture and
science, religious and secular do not have to be mutually exclusive. These
spheres overlap and can benefit from one another when approached with fair-
mindedness, humility and wisdom. Mormons welcome truth from whatever source
and take the pragmatic view that where religion a... 阅读全帖
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谢谢为我们的教友美言。
LDS的组织结构的确很出色,三人教长团,12使徒,70人传道组织,区域组织。这些在
1830年就开始建立了,直接来自耶稣基督的启示,见教义与圣约,这不是人发明的。
具体可以参考教义与圣约有关章节:
http://scriptures.lds.org/zh/dc/1
一个看似强大的结构,是由人组成的,如果人按照自然人的本性来实践,是很危险的,
就如你所看到的那样。我们教会有更多经文,指出在这个组织的人,只有按照正义原则
来使用才是神嘉许的。教义与圣约121篇专门对如何运用圣职权柄有启示:
http://scriptures.lds.org/zh/dc/121
36 聖職的權利與天上的能力不可分離地結合在一起,天上的能力不能被控制或運用,
唯有藉正義的原則才可以。
37 這些都可授予我們,那是真的,但當我們從事遮蓋我們的罪,或滿足我們的驕傲、
我們虛妄的野心,或以任何程度的不正義對人類兒女的靈魂施行控制、統治或強迫,看
啊,諸天就退出;主的靈悲傷;當其退出後,那人的聖職或權柄也就結束了。
38 看啊,在他察覺以前,他已是孤單一人,用腳踢刺,迫害聖徒,與神作對。
3... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 感恩节谈谈基督教对印第安人的屠杀
确实这段历史令我思索了很久。
马太福音 26
20 到了晚上,耶稣和十二个门徒坐席。
21 正吃的时候,耶稣说,我实在告诉你们,你们中间有一个人要卖我了。
22 他们就甚忧愁,一个一个地问他说,主,是我吗?
http://realitybong.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/thanksgiving-celebr
Rodolphe
March 1, 2011 at 15:29
I am Quisqueyan (the original Arawak “Indian” name for the Caribbean
island, which is now known as “Hispaniola”), so I fully appreciate all the
history you related. My parent’s homeland is in fact named what its
original ‘AmeriIndian’ inhabitants called it: Haiti. My father taught me,
at a young age... 阅读全帖
j*******7
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 感恩节谈谈基督教对印第安人的屠杀
确实这段历史令我思索了很久。
马太福音 26
20 到了晚上,耶稣和十二个门徒坐席。
21 正吃的时候,耶稣说,我实在告诉你们,你们中间有一个人要卖我了。
22 他们就甚忧愁,一个一个地问他说,主,是我吗?
http://realitybong.wordpress.com/2010/11/25/thanksgiving-celebr
Rodolphe
March 1, 2011 at 15:29
I am Quisqueyan (the original Arawak “Indian” name for the Caribbean
island, which is now known as “Hispaniola”), so I fully appreciate all the
history you related. My parent’s homeland is in fact named what its
original ‘AmeriIndian’ inhabitants called it: Haiti. My father taught me,
at a young age... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Commentary on Genesis Chapter 1 (1)
A. Thᴏughts tᴏ begin with as we study the Bible: hᴏw d&#
7439; we apprᴏach the Bible?
1. We cᴏme tᴏ the Bible knᴏwing there is a Gᴏd.
a. The Bible dᴏes nᴏt make elabᴏrate arguments fᴏr
the existence ᴏf Gᴏd. Hᴏwever, it dᴏes tell us h&#
7439;w we can knᴏw Gᴏd exists.
b. The Bible tells us we can knᴏw Gᴏd exists because ᴏf
what we see in creatiᴏn.
i. The heavens decla... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Commentary on Genesis Chapter 1 (1)
A. Thoughts to begin with as we study the Bible: how do we approach the
Bible?
1. We come to the Bible knowing there is a God.
a. The Bible does not make elaborate arguments for the existence of God.
However, it does tell us how we can know God exists.
b. The Bible tells us we can know God exists because of what we see in
creation.
i. The heavens declare the glory of God; and the firmament shows His
handiwork. Day unto day utters speech, and night unto night reveals
knowledge. There is no speech... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - [合集] 【福音派版本】 罗马书1:1-7
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jym2307 (罪魁) 于 (Tue Nov 1 17:30:19 2011, 美东) 提到:
1:1耶稣基督的仆人保罗,奉召为使徒,特派传神的福音。
1:2这福音是神从前藉众先知,在圣经上所应许的。
1:3论到他儿子,我主耶稣基督。按肉体说,是从大卫后裔生的。
1:4按圣善的灵说,因从死里复活,以大能显明是神的儿子。
1:5我们从他受了恩惠,并使徒的职分,在万国之中叫人为他的名信服真道。
1:6其中也有你们这蒙召属耶稣基督的人。
1:7我写信给你们在罗马为神所爱,奉召作圣徒的众人。愿恩惠平安,从我们的父神,
并主耶稣基督,归与你们。
1:1 首先讲到保罗的身份,是耶稣基督的仆人,是使徒,而他的职责就是传“神的福
音”。一句话,保罗言简意赅的描述了自己的身份和使命。
1:2 其次保罗讲到了福音与旧约的关系,是承传的关系,是在旧约中就应许了的福音。
1:3 按旧约说,耶稣基督是大卫后裔,应验了旧约的预言和神的应许。参见撒母耳记
下7:12
1:4 按新约说,耶稣以复活显明自己是神的儿子。
1:5... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 如何读圣经
It's sad that the early reformers though had this idea to go back to
scripture, but they cannot carry them out themsevles. Because they are
brought up under the influence of Roman Catholic Church. They soon found
their own church and make their own creeds and put creeds over scripture.
Just an example that sin is in our blood. Proud is one of the biggest sin
for Christians.
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 一点感受
这个叫基本常识,你真的不知道?是不是你教会的人和你说,只有你们新教才算是基督
教的?不“信”wilki的话,韦诗词典怎么样?
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/christianity
Definition of CHRISTIANITY
1: the religion derived from Jesus Christ, based on the Bible as sacred
scripture, and professed by Eastern, Roman Catholic, and Protestant bodies
Christianity noun (Concise Encyclopedia)
Religion stemming from the teachings of Jesus in the 1st century AD. Its
sacred scripture is the Bible, particularly the New Testament. Its principal
tenets are tha... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 基督教先哲反对生育控制
I agree with you that Christians' creeds are not equivalent to scripture.
Scripture has higher authority.
About the oil and women, you use descriptive verses as prescriptive again.
Did anyone tell you to use oil when you were sick while you were in Church?
I even saw women give sermons in some churches. There is great diversity
in Christian churches. Don't think the church you know is every church.
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Why does Isaiah 45:7 say that God created evil?
http://www.gotquestions.org/Isaiah-45-7.html
Question: "Why does Isaiah 45:7 say that God created evil?"
Answer: Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, “I form the light, and
create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these
things.” How does Isaiah 45:7 agree with the view that God did not create
evil? There are two key facts that need to be considered. (1) The word
translated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction
, calamity, distress, misery... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Why does Isaiah 45:7 say that God created evil?
http://www.gotquestions.org/Isaiah-45-7.html
Question: "Why does Isaiah 45:7 say that God created evil?"
Answer: Isaiah 45:7 in the King James Version reads, “I form the light, and
create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these
things.” How does Isaiah 45:7 agree with the view that God did not create
evil? There are two key facts that need to be considered. (1) The word
translated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction
, calamity, distress, misery... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - Why Aren’t More Intellectuals Believers?
這篇基督徒寫的文章,基督徒朋友們可以看看。
http://www.relevantmagazine.com/god/church/why-aren%E2%80%99t-m
“God’s alright when he isn’t making bears eat children, you know?”
I didn’t. But this was just one of the arguments that would be lobbed at me
by my new atheist friend, Tyler.
Tyler used to believe in God. Though I didn’t know him at the time, his
theology degree and sleeve of artfully ambiguous Christian tattoos suggest
he took the whole thing pretty seriously, so when we began discussing his
recent de-convers... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 問一下 taoseeker 這個的出處
是这段么?
Question: My question is for professor Dawkins. Considering that Atheism
cannot possibly have any sense of absolute morality, would it not then be
an irrational leap of faith, which atheists themselves so harshly condemn,
for an atheist to decide between right and wrong?
And here is Dawkins' answer:
The absolute morality that a religious person might profess would include
what, stoning people for adultery,
And the man that committeth adultery with another man's wife, even he that
committe... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 金正恩vs耶和华
http://www.clearbibleanswers.org/questionsanswers/100-how-can-g
How can God PUNISH a person’s family to the 3RD AND 4TH GENERATION?
QUESTION 17
IS IT FAIR FOR GOD TO PUNISH THE INNOCENT? HE SAID, "VISITING THE INIQUITY
OF THE FATHERS UPON THE CHILDREN UNTO THE THIRD AND FOURTH GENERATION OF
THEM THAT HATE ME"! (EXODUS 20:5)
Only four times in Scripture this phrase is recorded. In Exodus
20:5, Exodus 34:7, Numbers 14:18, and Deuteronomy 5:9. These are all in the
writings of Moses. In E... 阅读全帖
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耶稣已经成全了旧约的律法,基督徒通过对耶稣的信仰,和服从耶稣所解释的旧约律法
,就可以与旧约律法取得一致。
耶稣说明了两条最重要律法,全心全意爱上帝,和爱人如己。其他的律法这是这两条的
细化而已。信耶稣就要尽量履行这两条。
Matt 22
37 Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with
all your soul and with all your mind.’ 38 This is the first and greatest
commandment. 39 And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.
’ 40 All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
上帝的法律是人的正直来自于对上帝的信心。
Galatians 3
15 Brothers and sisters, let me take an example from everyd... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 对圣经的解释听反基的还是基督徒的
这是很多人的误解。把上帝父,耶稣,和保罗等门徒的话按轻重排个顺序。
基督徒认为圣经整本书,每字每句都要给予同样的重视。
而且他们不矛盾。为什么要所谓听耶和华的话或者听耶稣的话呢?圣经里把旧约律法与
信耶稣的关系说的已经很清楚了。
从亚伯拉罕的例子可以看出上帝看中的是信心。
上帝认为亚伯拉罕是正直的是通过他的信心,而不是他对旧约律法的服从(旧约律法那
时还不存在)。
Romans 4
1 What then shall we say that Abraham, our forefather according to the flesh
, discovered in this matter? 2 If, in fact, Abraham was justified by works,
he had something to boast about—but not before God. 3 What does Scripture
say? “Abraham believed God, and it was credited to him as righteousness.”
Galati... 阅读全帖
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How can we accept the Book of Mormon if it contradicts the Bible? There must
be zero contradictions if it is true!
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_BMProblems.shtml#zero
It is interesting that our critics are often willing to go to great lengths
to resolve apparent contradictions or other problems in the Bible, but are
unwilling to even think carefully about the many alleged contradictions and
problems they find in the Book of Mormon. If they applied the same critical
approach to the Bible, ... 阅读全帖
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And if a single contradiction or error is grounds for rejecting a whole
book, will the critics then reject the book of Matthew because the author
mistakenly attributed a prophecy of Zechariah (Zech. 11:12-13) to Jeremiah
in Matthew 27: 9-10? Or perhaps we reject Mark because it contradicts Luke
and Matthew as to whether Christ told his newly called apostles to go with
or without staves (staffs) (compare Matt. 10:10 and Luke 9:3 to Mark 6:8).
But Christ commands us to live by every word of God (M... 阅读全帖
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How can we accept the Book of Mormon if it contradicts the Bible? There must
be zero contradictions if it is true!
http://www.jefflindsay.com/LDSFAQ/FQ_BMProblems.shtml#zero
It is interesting that our critics are often willing to go to great lengths
to resolve apparent contradictions or other problems in the Bible, but are
unwilling to even think carefully about the many alleged contradictions and
problems they find in the Book of Mormon. If they applied the same critical
approach to the Bible, ... 阅读全帖
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And if a single contradiction or error is grounds for rejecting a whole
book, will the critics then reject the book of Matthew because the author
mistakenly attributed a prophecy of Zechariah (Zech. 11:12-13) to Jeremiah
in Matthew 27: 9-10? Or perhaps we reject Mark because it contradicts Luke
and Matthew as to whether Christ told his newly called apostles to go with
or without staves (staffs) (compare Matt. 10:10 and Luke 9:3 to Mark 6:8).
But Christ commands us to live by every word of God (M... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 伯多祿的磐石地位
我也找到一篇写这句话的文章。
https://bible.org/seriespage/peter%E2%80%99s-confession-and-christ%E2%80%99s
-church-matthew-1613-20
里面说还是最好认为磐石是彼得。
However, and this is important, to say that Christ was going to build his
church on the foundation of the apostles does not in any way teach an
apostolic succession, papal infallibility, or exclusive authority for
successors of Peter. Those doctrines were developed later. All the text
would be saying is what the rest of the New Testament affirms, that Christ
establi... 阅读全帖
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我老人家摘录的 DECLARATION一些核心部分:
3. The Common Understanding of Justification
14.The Lutheran churches and the Roman Catholic Church have together
listened to the good news proclaimed in Holy Scripture. This common
listening, together with the theological conversations of recent years, has
led to a shared understanding of justification. This encompasses a consensus
in the basic truths; the differing explications in particular statements
are compatible with it.
15.In faith we together hold the convicti... 阅读全帖
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能用studybible很好啊。NET bible对这个问题上做了些解释。而且我认为这不算什么
“严重错误”吧。似乎不怎么影响人们对圣经的理解。
https://net.bible.org/#!bible/Mark+2:23
52 tn A decision about the proper translation of this Greek phrase (ἐ
πὶ ᾿Αβιαθὰρ ἀρχιερέως, ejpi
Abiaqar ajrcierew") is very difficult for a number of reasons. The most
natural translation of the phrase is “when Abiathar was high priest,” but
this is problematic because Abiathar was not the high priest when David
entered the temple and ate the ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 读完《天主教教理纲要》
This is a question relate to ST Thomas Aquinas. It's about the relationship
between spiritual and material....
Sorry. have a flight to catch...
A Book on papal infallibility in Early Church
Stephen Ray: Upon This Rock: St. Peter and the Primacy of Rome in Scripture
and the Early Church
http://www.amazon.com/Upon-This-Rock-Scripture-Apologetics/dp/0
Sorry, got to go.
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https://net.bible.org/?ref=nbt#!bible/Genesis+3
Who was the tempter? Among evangelicals there are two major views regarding
the identity of the serpent.
1. It was a literal snake.
a. Moses called it a beast of the field (v. 1).
b. Though snakes do not speak, Satan could have spoken through a snake. He
did this through demoniacs in Jesus’ day. Also, a spirit being spoke
through Balaam’s donkey (Num. 22:21-30).
c. God judged a snake in this case (v. 14).[186]
2. It was Satan himself described here... 阅读全帖
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https://net.bible.org/?ref=nbt#!bible/Genesis+3
Who was the tempter? Among evangelicals there are two major views regarding
the identity of the serpent.
1. It was a literal snake.
a. Moses called it a beast of the field (v. 1).
b. Though snakes do not speak, Satan could have spoken through a snake. He
did this through demoniacs in Jesus’ day. Also, a spirit being spoke
through Balaam’s donkey (Num. 22:21-30).
c. God judged a snake in this case (v. 14).[186]
2. It was Satan himself described here... 阅读全帖
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Matthew 3 (New International Version)
16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that
moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a
dove and lighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son,
whom I love; with him I am well pleased."
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there are not three gods, but only three persons in one God. Of course all
this is quite beyond our comprehension and yet it is the plain teac... 阅读全帖
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Matthew 3 (New International Version)
16 As soon as Jesus was baptized, he went up out of the water. At that
moment heaven was opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a
dove and lighting on him. 17 And a voice from heaven said, "This is my Son,
whom I love; with him I am well pleased."
=========================================================
there are not three gods, but only three persons in one God. Of course all
this is quite beyond our comprehension and yet it is the plain teac... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 一个谬误导致另一个谬误(zz)

“圣经通常用“斯陶罗斯”这个希腊语词来指用来处死耶稣的刑具。(马太福音27:40;
约翰福音19:17)虽然很多圣经译本都把“斯陶罗斯”译做“十字架”,但很多学者都
同意“斯陶罗斯”的基本意思其实是“直立的柱子”。
这个问题我以前谈过了,在例举提前1书是,4 处Who 被翻译成 God。圣经里有很多人
为翻译的错误
圣经的答案
火湖象征永远的毁灭,跟“欣嫩谷”所象征的一样。虽然大部分汉语圣经有时会把“欣
嫩谷”译为“地狱”,但这个译法是错误的
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在这讨论串中, 你大晒你教会对希腊文, 希伯来文的认识,
其它教会通通译错, 只有你们译对, 所以是上主的话的唯一真传。
不过, 贵教会《新世界译本》的编译委员中的六个领导层成员,
五个都是没有认可的希腊文, 希伯来文的资历。
主要翻译成员 Fred Franz 在 1954 年一埸官司中,
在庭上便询问他的学历资格,
庭上的作供如下∶
(A) 是Fred Franz为被对方律师询问的答辩
Tuesday, 23rd November, ... 阅读全帖
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来自主题: TrustInJesus版 - 悲惨的犹太人
THE JEWS IN THE SPIRITUAL WORLD.
Before the Last Judgment the Jews appeared in a valley in the spiritual
world, at the left side of the Christian center; but after it, they were
transferred into the north, and forbidden to hold interaction with
Christians, except with those who wandered outside the cities. In that
quarter, there are two great cities into which the Jews are led after death,
and which before the judgment, were called Jerusalems, but after it by
another name, because after the judg... 阅读全帖
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