G**Y
发帖数: 33224 | 1 With the exception of the last two minutes of the first half and the last
five minutes of the second half, the game clock will be restarted following
a kickoff return, a player going out of bounds on a play from scrimmage, or
after declined penalties when appropriate on the referee’s signal.
这不是说 last five minutes of the second half吗 |
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D****3
发帖数: 611 | 2 Well, that was ugly.
Peyton Manning will have to go home and lick his wounds after his Broncos
took a 43-8 pounding at the hands of the Seahawks in Super Bowl XLVIII on
Sunday. It's always rough to get embarrassed on the national stage, and it's
safe to assume that Peyton is feeling a tad vulnerable right now.
However, there is one perfect person who can help console Manning after such
a public spanking: his boss and Broncos executive video president of
football operations, John Elway.
Sure, we ... 阅读全帖 |
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p********o
发帖数: 162 | 3 DEN今年跑的算不错的了,只是碰到SEA以后OL完全撑不住了,就算有AP在也没有用,就像
NE随便跑COLTS, 但是打DEN的时候跑不出来一样.所以真是the game is win and lose
at the line of scrimmage. |
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s*****o
发帖数: 22187 | 4 Passer or Ball Outside Tackle Position.Intentional grounding will not be
called when a passer,
who is outside, or has been outside, the tackle position throws a forward
pass that lands at or beyond
the line of scrimmage, even if no offensive player(s) have a realistic
chance to catch the ball (including
when the ball lands out of bounds over the sideline or endline). If a loose
ball leaves the area
bordered by the tackles, this area no longer exists; if the ball is
recovered, all intentional gro... 阅读全帖 |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 5 No. A (forward) pass can only happen on a scrimmage play.
run? |
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d*****e
发帖数: 16730 | 6 4. Extend the goalposts five yards higher.
5. Move the extra-point line of scrimmage to the 25-yard line.
6. Add six cameras to all boundary lines to supplement TV camera angles.
7. Allow any officials decision to be challengeable
据说提的是这4条 |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 7 你们都不提其中最影响深远的？
12. Modify pass interference so that it can be called within one yard of the
line of scrimmage.
是可忍孰不可忍 一码之内都不让碰了？
灵敏快速往前跑的WR跑出一码的时候
苯拙缓慢往后退的QB连球还没拿稳吧
也能吹PI了??
这要是通过了 就别装模作样的还要拉其他31个队一起来血肉横飞的打2014赛季了
直接把冠军给野驴即可 |
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g*******4
发帖数: 1889 | 8 http://feature.rollingstone.com/feature/the-gangster-in-the-hud
在逛Rolling Stone的时候偶然间发现了这篇报道。写得太尼玛精彩，花了一个多小时
读完，如果不是Hernandez(AH，下同)最后不是happy ending, 这个剧本拍成电影估计
绝对大卖。
如果去年这个这个时候版上有讨论还请见谅。
这篇报道里各种细节各种线人爆料(Tebow, Belichick, Kraft, Wes Welker, Mike
Pouncey轮番出场)基本还原了AH这个童年的成长经历和经历父亲去世，
母亲外遇改嫁后的蜕变过程。感想很多。正巧碰上最近AP的那档子事也各种爆料，突然
发现这两哥们的童年经历何其相似：
1.老爹都是former athlete. 都不是善茬，但都最后从良成为严父。某种程度上还都不
是一般意义上的严父：生活上管教很严，"keep from streets", 体育上启蒙教练“He
was the perfect dad: He went to every scrimmage, and got ’em u... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****o
发帖数: 22187 | 9 I think he moved towards the LOS and did not reset when the ball was snapped.
https://www.nfl.info/download/2012mediaguides/2013%20nfl%20rule%20book.pdf
Section 4, Article 2, Item 3
If an eligible receiver who is in the backfield changes his stance, or moves
to another position in the backfield that is
closer to the line of scrimmage or to a position on the line, he must reset
prior to the snap. |
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t******3
发帖数: 4053 | 10 1. Cincy at Colts
按说我不预测这种悬念不大的比赛，可前2次预测看低大扣子我全错，这次好歹pay
respect to Colts，俺也挽回点面子吧。就是笨狗主场，扣子战胜之亦无悬念，何况是
扣子主场。
预测结果：38:16 扣子胜
2. Giants at Cowboys
巨人真的出问题了，而且是那种需要clean house and rebuild from scratch的问题。
小白菜不是注意力不集中神经刀，而是在巨人nothing left for fight for, 无解。咳
嗽灵就是小白菜这棵树上的一个寄生虫，树子蔫了，虫子干着急没办法。巨人不送走小
白菜咳嗽灵师徒，5年之内连个playoff都没有！不信走着瞧。
预测结果：38:24 牛仔胜
3. Saints at Lions
难民今年没了气势，猪不理也迅速走上下坡路，看来这后几年就是play for paycheck
混个饭票了，我估计今年难民进playoff都难。
但Lions这种千年loser队气质一时是无法改变的，别看它赢了几场，遇上难民这种二流
强队，遇上连着不胜憋着一肚子火的老朱，虱子队必... 阅读全帖 |
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t******3
发帖数: 4053 | 11 应该在line scrimmage jam他一下，干扰他的sync. |
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R*2
发帖数: 1631 | 12 Opportunity to possess: The opportunity to possess occurs only during
kicking plays. A kickoff is an opportunity to possess for the receiving team
. If the kicking team legally recovers the kick, the receiving team is
considered to have had its opportunity. A punt or a field goal that crosses
the line of scrimmage and is muffed by the receiving team is considered to
be an opportunity to possess for the receivers. Normal touching rules by the
kicking team apply. |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 14 你们还真讨论得煞有其事似的 ......
Rule 4 Game Timing
Section 7 Action to Conserve Time
Illegal Acts
Article 1
A team is not permitted to conserve time inside of one minute of either half
by committing any of the following acts:
(a) a foul by either team that prevents the snap (i.e., false start,
encroachment, etc.)
(b) intentional grounding;
(c) an illegal forward pass thrown from beyond the line of scrimmage;
(d) throwing a backward pass out of bounds;
(e) spiking or throwing the ball in the field of play a... 阅读全帖 |
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g*******s
发帖数: 2828 | 15 In Bill we trust. 我们拍饭不跳大神，one game at a time. 随便聊两句。
1. 大局：这场球的重要性不言而喻。扣子拍子都是基本已经拿下自己的division。美
北是群雄混战，每个队division战绩都是2-2，所以冠军成绩不会太好。野马不出意外
应该是12胜+。扣子这场以后想输一场也难（就剩一场客场对牛仔）。基本上这场球就
是for 1st round bye。
2. Luck vs. Pats D: 已经有很多人谈了运气的turnover问题,相信这也会是本场最关
键的因素。实话说前两年运气客场对小鸡，带着一群路人甲(还有人记得去年对我牌豪
取两TD的Brazil么？），也是情有可原。但这次是主场作战，而且是满员，又有10天的
准备，如果再有2个以上的TO就说不过去了。本赛季运气已经有几场出了昏招，但是山
东/金鹰没有把握机会，媒体也没有太为难他，这场是全国直播。
2a. 小鸡号称每次take away对方的第一武器。运气的第一武器毫无疑问是Hilton，但
我却想不出拍子谁能shut down Hilton。最大的可能是put Revis on... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****o
发帖数: 22187 | 16 pass-protection percentage (percentage of plays where the offense controls
the line of scrimmage)
不知道是怎么统计的 |
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l*x
发帖数: 14021 | 17 many signs have ponited to miscommunication on the road. the way how the
packers offenses are run rely heavily on audibles by Rodgers at the line of
scrimmage. receivers were clearly not on the same page with Rodgers on many
plays, and lots of confusion. when at home, packers offense dominates, but
on the road it lacks efficiency big time. there were a lot of
misopportunities, like the Lions and Saints games.
maybe they should use Chip Kelly's sign system on the sideline. however here
in Green B... 阅读全帖 |
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s**a
发帖数: 141 | 18 足球和美式橄榄球同宗同源，从这个阵型里就可看出来。别看美式橄榄球广告多、暂停
多，但节奏比足球快的多。可以这么说，美式橄榄球是把一场足球比赛浓缩到了一次的
攻防之中，我们将每一次的攻防称之为Down，一般中文译作“档”。
最初的橄榄球没有Down的概念，不准在腰部以下擒抱持球者，达阵射门都是1分（美式
橄榄球的演化历史）。除了一方是用手持球，一方是用脚控球，其他看起来差别不大，
只不过那时的橄榄球还没向前传球一说。在一代又一代的进化之后，终于有了现代的美
式橄榄球。
那么足球和美式橄榄球相似之处在哪？
1.开球向后传递，再向前进攻。
2.进攻靠带球突破和传球，只不过美式橄榄球只有一次向前传球的机会。
在美式橄榄球比赛中，每次进攻，由中锋开球，把球向后传给四分卫，四分卫再组织进
攻。这如同足球的中场开球之后，总是向后传球，然后再组织进攻。只不过在美式橄榄
球中，进攻首要目标是得到10码首攻，如果4次攻不得到10码，那就丧失球权，次要目
标才是达阵得分。而足球只要保证持有球权，就永远拥有的进攻机会。所以说，美式橄
榄球运动是没有退路的，相较足球来说更激烈。
想象一下，如果足球比赛中，最多4... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****a
发帖数: 353 | 19 我觉得从规则角度是这样一个问题
通常的阵型五个lineman都是固定的，如果你需要临时改变eligibility需要额外声明
这次是上了4个lineman加额外的通常eligible的球员，这样是不是进攻方就随时可以在
scrimmage时做一个shift，导致左右两端的球员突然改变eligibility？哪怕裁判给额
外的5秒时间，那防守方的阵型也需要有重大改变（即使不换人）
所以如果这种行为被允许，那么LT/RT可能会全面被TE取代了吧？ |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 20 hmmm 涨知识了
根据rule book 从非正常位置回到正常位置
也不一定是要离场一次 场上有以下中断也可以
A player who has reported a change in his eligibility status to the Referee
is permitted to return to a position indicated by the eligibility status
of his number after:
(a) a team time out;
(b) the end of a quarter;
(c) the two-minute warning;
(d) a foul;
(e) a replay challenge;
(f) a touchdown;
(g) a completed kick from scrimmage;
(h) a change of possession; or
(i) 离场一次
谁去查一查game log 当时有没有中断 |
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t******g
发帖数: 10390 | 21 nate solder那个看来是正确的.
http://www.nfl.com/liveupdate/gamecenter/56500/NE_Gamebook.pdf
New England Patriots at 15:00, (1st play from scrimmage 14:54)
2-1-IND 16 (11:08) C.Fleming reported in as eligible. L.Blount right guard t
o IND 16 for no gain (J.Freeman; R.Jean Francois).
3-1-IND 16 (10:10) N.Solder reported in as eligible. T.Brady pass short left
to N.Solder for 16 yards, TOUCHDOWN. NE 77-Solder 1st NFL TD. P19
S.Gostkowski extra point is GOOD, Center-D.Aiken, Holder-R.Allen
fo
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p*******e
发帖数: 2310 | 22 还是我来给你点提示吧，这里看热闹的比懂球的人多。qb audible是很经常的东西。尤
其是大白菜，看得就烦。
a. If a snap is preceded by a huddle or shift, all players of the offensive
team must come to an absolute stop and remain stationary in their positions,
without movement of the feet, body, head or arms, for at least one full
second before the ball is snapped.
b. It is not intended that previous rule should prohibit smooth, rhythmical
shifts if properly executed. A smooth cadence shift or unhurried motion is
not an infraction. However, it is... 阅读全帖 |
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t******g
发帖数: 10390 | 23 只扔了一次.
不过他大部分时间都在cover后场,没在scrimmage上缠斗. |
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t******g
发帖数: 10390 | 24 只有oline的5个人不能外接.
他们必须在scrimmage上. |
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d********n
发帖数: 1856 | 26 但是可以抱着球跑过这条线对吧？
line of scrimmage, 进攻线 |
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t******g
发帖数: 10390 | 27 browner是13号先engage blocking的啊.scrimmage line上啊.输糊涂了?我们当年也是
这样.07神仙接的时候giants o-line好像有两个facemask. |
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t******g
发帖数: 10390 | 28 boston radio当时直播的时候说seahawk是pick play而且是illegal pick play.
波士顿球迷可以理解为13号阻挡browner防守超过了scrimmage 1 yard.
西雅图球迷可以理解为browner阻挡13号接球超过了scrimage 1 yard
这里我觉得13号的intention更明显,但是这种情况下,尤其是这场比赛里,裁判多半是不
会吹哨的.
这里有关于pick play的讲解:
http://www.milehighreport.com/mhr-film-study/2013/12/10/5195218
arification-pick-plays【 在 baifayu (惯看秋月春风) 的大作中提到: 】 |
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A**d
发帖数: 13310 | 29 fieldgulls这人分析的很清楚，我前边说过set up players to fail,从头到尾所有细
节都愚蠢的一个call:
I understand the sentiment
Of this post and the logic behind why we threw the ball, the play design is
also not a bad one against a defensive set like that the problem with that
call, and by call I mean the exact play we ran and not a hypothetical roll
out or any other read, is that we do not have the personel or experience to
run it effectively.
Slant plays like this are most of the time first read quick step back and
throw pla... 阅读全帖 |
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H**********i
发帖数: 1261 | 30 基本正确吧
按规则 故意往前放炮 等同于forward pass看待
如果放炮时已经过了scrimmage线 当然是illegal pass
但并不是所有故意forward放炮就直接是illegal
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m********1
发帖数: 681 | 31 隔壁又有一贴说裁判黑了。
我看也是。明明乌鸦控制着line of scrimmage,怎么就输了呢？原来是裁判！
NFL一直是这样，比NBA还不如。 |
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m********1
发帖数: 681 | 32 隔壁又有一贴说裁判黑了。
我看也是。明明乌鸦控制着line of scrimmage,怎么就输了呢？原来是裁判！
NFL一直是这样，比NBA还不如。 |
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c****y
发帖数: 4457 | 33 合法
扣子的问题是右边这一大排人根本不在line of scrimmage上，这个是不合法的 |
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t******g
发帖数: 10390 | 34 好像还有一个不合法的地方是球的左边没有wr.
好象是说scrimmage line上OL的两边必须有eligible球员cover才可以.
colts那个本来的左边的wr去snap球了变成了OL成员,但是没有相应的wr去cover他左边.
看google出来的图示都是有个wr现在人少的一侧. |
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r*c
发帖数: 16750 | 35 Try
After a touchdown, the scoring team is allowed a try during one scrimmage
down. The ball may be spotted anywhere between the inbounds lines, two or
more yards from the goal line. The successful conversion counts one point by
kick; two points for a successful conversion by touchdown; or one point for
a safety.The defensive team never can score on a try. As soon as defense
gets possession or the kick is blocked or a touchdown is not scored, the try
is over.Any distance penalty for fouls commit... 阅读全帖 |
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r*c
发帖数: 16750 | 36 Try
After a touchdown, the scoring team is allowed a try during one scrimmage
down. The ball may be spotted anywhere between the inbounds lines, two or
more yards from the goal line. The successful conversion counts one point by
kick; two points for a successful conversion by touchdown; or one point for
a safety.The defensive team never can score on a try. As soon as defense
gets possession or the kick is blocked or a touchdown is not scored, the try
is over.Any distance penalty for fouls commit... 阅读全帖 |
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l*******b
发帖数: 782 | 37 那个球是被对方推着往后出了界，相当于forward progress，按在场内最前点down处理
，所以也不算出界
scrimmage
the |
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b******d
发帖数: 9694 | 38 在微信群里的都知道我对痿精以AP为核心的进攻策略出离愤怒， 1st downs 100% AP
runs， 这种进攻策略在季后赛一定是死路一条， 除非痿精的防守神一样的发挥。
痿精不除AP或者不让AP当桥水的小弟（估计永无可能), 痿精永远没有夺超级碗的可能
。AP那种
line up 100 miles off line of scrimmage的running style完全是牺牲球队前途个人
刷数据的玩法 （跑20次负码或者一两码， 然后来个大的)， 并且这种跑姿使得痿精的
技战术没有一点隐蔽性可言。。。 |
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B*****e
发帖数: 9375 | 39
No he did not know the rules,
and Tommy Boy did not know the rules,
and you still do not know the rules even now.
那三个怪阵 本身独立的看是合法的
但是号码是elgibible的球员 排在ineligible的位置上打了一个play之后
要回到elgibible的位置上打下一个play
两个plays之间 必须有一个死球间断(暂停 得分 开球 判罚)
光报告了不够 只是球出界也不够
拍子玩了三次这种怪阵
第三次 哈宝冲进来被判犯规 符合这个死球间断的规定
前两次 至少有一次没有符合 应该被罚5码
NFL 2014 Rule Book, Rule 5, Section 3, Article 2
RETURNING TO ORIGINAL POSITION
Article 2 A player who has reported a change in his eligibility status to
the Referee is permitted... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****o
发帖数: 22187 | 40 只要不是落下来砸到人就不犯规。最后那个球是半空中被OL用胳臂拦了一下，掉下来没
有碰到snapper
(s) Running forward and leaping in an obvious attempt to block a field goal
or Try Kick and landing on players, unless the
leaping player was originally lined up on the line of scrimmage when the
ball was snapped.
另外我感觉之前那个球应该过线了，即使没判过也应该有booth review吧，这里不太明
白。 |
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s*****o
发帖数: 22187 | 41 From wiki:
audible
A play called by the quarterback at the line of scrimmage to make a change
from the play that was called in the huddle. |
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s*****o
发帖数: 22187 | 42 我觉得队友帮忙不算出界，看最下面对出界的定义。
又一个问题，看（6），如果球完全过线了，但没有触地，Kicking team队员还是可以
把球救回来，球放在哪取决于这个队员从哪里left the field of play，就是说救球队
员最后没有出界就行。不知道我理解的对不对。
SECTION 2 TOUCHING A SCRIMMAGE KICK
ARTICLE 2. FIRST TOUCHING BEYOND THE LINE.
(5) If a player of the kicking team touches the goal line with any part of
his body while touching the ball, the ball is dead,
and the result of the play is a touchback.
(6) The spot of first touching is normally the yard line at which the ball
is when touched. If the first touch... 阅读全帖 |
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s*****o
发帖数: 22187 | 43 我觉得队友帮忙不算出界，看最下面对出界的定义。
又一个问题，看（6），如果球完全过线了，但没有触地，Kicking team队员还是可以
把球救回来，球放在哪取决于这个队员从哪里left the field of play，就是说救球队
员最后没有出界就行。不知道我理解的对不对。
SECTION 2 TOUCHING A SCRIMMAGE KICK
ARTICLE 2. FIRST TOUCHING BEYOND THE LINE.
(5) If a player of the kicking team touches the goal line with any part of
his body while touching the ball, the ball is dead,
and the result of the play is a touchback.
(6) The spot of first touching is normally the yard line at which the ball
is when touched. If the first touch... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****u
发帖数: 1978 | 44 【前言】两年前，本版著名拍饭加拿大人在版上写了一个 ON TO 系列，反响甚好，我
非常羡慕嫉妒恨，所以今年效一个颦。不过他是西施，而我姓东，一切都要反着来，从
标题开始，就得把 ON TO 倒过来写...
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OH NO! 我拍第十二周遇上冤家小飞机，未战先怯，又正逢自身内乱频频，对位全亏。
乍看去，一边是AFC老二，另一边是明年状元候选队；但其实，硕大的一个 trap game
正在隐隐成型中。。。
（一）三年前的那个风雨夜
拍子与飞机的情缘已久，有太多故事可供诸位茶余饭后。对我来说，近几年印象最深的
交手，是三年前的第二周。
2013赛季的那场比赛，新人WR刀疤僧的职业生涯第一接，就接了个方圆十里无飞机的TD
，废拍第一节10:0领先。然而后三节进攻完全便秘，只靠飞狗添了三分，纯粹仰仗对方
QB鸡屎在第四节的三次INT送大礼，这才勉强13:10战胜飞机，取得赛季开门2-0。那场
球汤哥39传19中，码数只有185，不是生涯最烂数据恐怕也是之一。
比赛结束后的两分钟里，我看了看剩余赛程的对手，顿感以废拍本场之表现，几乎没有
任何取胜的可能，万般郁闷中吐出一句：乐观估计今年3-... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 28835 | 45 拍子这个闪来闪去，不构成illegal shift？人都在line of scrimmage 站定了，还这
样跑来跑去的。 或许我们对规则真是理解不够。 |
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发帖数: 44903 | 46 Bill Belichick doesn't often heap praise onto specific players, so when he
does, you know he means it.
Asked Thursday about Matt Ryan, the New England Patriots head coach spoke
glowingly about the Atlanta Falcons quarterback's complete skill set.
"He does everything well," Belichick said, according to DJ Bean of CSNNE.com
. "He handles the line of scrimmage well, gets the team in the right plays,
plays good in critical situations, deep ball, intermediate throws,
possession passes, red passes; he... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 9694 | 47 理由我之前说过上百遍了， 这里再罗列一下：
1. Always put himself above the team; his ego would be poison for the locker
room;
2. His QB under center running formation is suicidal in this league right
now, 10 yards behind line of scrimmage is just fk stupid nowadays;
3. Can not block, he tried but he really sucked in blocking, simply can not
read the disguise by the defense;
4. Can not catch the ball;
5. 终身放炮成就奖.;
6. 年龄和伤病 |
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发帖数: 9694 | 48 理由我之前说过上百遍了， 这里再罗列一下：
1. Always put himself above the team; his ego would be poison for the locker
room;
2. His QB under center running formation is suicidal in this league right
now, 10 yards behind line of scrimmage is just fk stupid nowadays;
3. Can not block, he tried but he really sucked in blocking, simply can not
read the disguise by the defense;
4. Can not catch the ball;
5. 终身放炮成就奖.;
6. 年龄和伤病 |
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发帖数: 44903 | 49 Here's the full list of proposals:
1. By Philadelphia; Gives additional protections for long snappers on
kick plays.
2. By Philadelphia; Prohibits the "leaper" block attempt on field goal
and extra point plays.
3. By Philadelphia; Expands the “crown of helmet” foul to include “
hairline” part of helmet.
4. By Philadelphia; Amends the challenge system by granting a third
challenge if a club is successful on at least one of its initial two
challenges, and expands reviewable plays o... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1978 | 50 【前言】每周赛前，我拍尽管嘴上牛逼哄哄：“谁敢惹我？”其实心里战战兢兢，知道
打不过对手，又不能明说，只好往人家身边一靠：“ WHO 敢惹咱 TWO !”
who悠也好，two槽也罢。人生在世，难得糊涂。既如此，何妨一笑看 who two ?
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2017赛季，我拍第二周的对手，是坐镇 super dome 的难民，对低迷的废拍而言，正所
谓屋漏偏逢连夜雨...
（一）
上周预言废拍防守会被弃妇打得一塌 who two ，结果尽数应验 ----
被弃妇攻下42分，这是小鸡废拍生涯的最高；
被弃妇攻下537码，这也是小鸡废拍生涯的最高；
被QB 铁匠传球成功 28/35 (80%)，368码，10.5 YPA，4 TD，0 INT，150.7 defensive
passer rating，这是铁匠的个人新高；
被RB Hunt 跑出 17-148 码，1 TD，接球 5-98 码，2 TD，一人贡献 246 码，3 TD，
这是NFL首秀码数的历史最高纪录；
。。。。。。
类似的被打破的纪录还有一百八十七项。
不要忘记，所有这一切，还都是在废拍主场刮胡刀的表现。
（二）
废拍的防... 阅读全帖 |
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