m*****a
发帖数: 382 | 1 Does anybody know when the redesigned IS series will be on the market?
Please comment, thanks! |
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S******4
发帖数: 2865 | 2 试驾过。
steering手感不强，车后排空间很挤，250发动机马力很小，Lexus内饰设计的还是漂亮
的。
我最后买了335但335价格高不少，综合来说个人比较推荐G37。
还有250明年要redesign了，现在买要考虑resale。 |
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n****y
发帖数: 819 | 4 It should be quite different from the current XC60/S60 since it should be
the start of a new cycle for all the Volvo redesign. |
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s******n
发帖数: 340 | 5 We have an AWD SUV, and a 10 month old baby. Which one would be a better second
car?
We tested both. Jetta wagon is more fun to drive, but Passat has more room. Also
, the Jetta wagon is based on the old 2009 Jetta Sedan, we are afraid that
VW will redesign it in the near future, thus the resale value will drop.
Prices are comparable though. |
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ay
发帖数: 2267 | 6 对车不做评价
提供楼主一个信息
GL Class明年要redesign了
今年年底是很好砍价的机会
10% off msrp不是梦 |
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M***s
发帖数: 8769 | 7 The 2012 Toyota Camry. (Photo by Toyota.)America's best-selling midsize
sedan, the Toyota Camry, was not only redesigned for the 2012 model year, it
's also safer, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety
Administration.
NHTSA has awarded the 2012 Camry a five-star overall safety rating, with
four-star achievements for front-impact and rollover protection and a five-
star rating for side impacts. The vehicle makes extensive use of high-
strength steel in its construction and comes standa... 阅读全帖 |
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z*****u
发帖数: 1875 | 8
2013 year, accord will be redesigned |
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m********k
发帖数: 48 | 9 那你说说如果买SUV还有啥好选择？日车Rav4/CRV内饰我就不说了，美国车escape这么
多年也不redesign,equinox到还不错可OTD也逼近3w... |
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r******o
发帖数: 1530 | 12 I heard next gen xc90 will come in 2014.
xc90 is a cash cow for Volvo, the cost to initiate a new model can be
amortized over >10 years, part of the reason why Volvo is not motivated to
redesign it, I guess. |
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d*****e
发帖数: 2489 | 13 这玩意也就能算redesign吧，怎么好意思说reinvent |
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r******s
发帖数: 3662 | 14 啥时候的车？2011/2012 redesign过的楼上都开过了？为啥我开着这3.6L V6的觉得动
力很足呢 |
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c*******1
发帖数: 589 | 15 开4年 or 40k miles就卖,并且不在乎resale value,就passat, 否则accord. passat
2012价格便宜,天窗,皮椅, 比accord顶配还好了,才不到25k,accord redesign之后不会
这么便宜吧, 实际驾驶感受,passat 稍好于accord,因为有个sport档位. accord 的5at
实在是短板.而且passat是5缸,感觉震动稍小于accord4缸. |
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l******a
发帖数: 3803 | 16 The analysis by Edmunds.com for USA TODAY shows buyers in 2011 paid an
average $19,711 for a Hyundai Elantra compact, about $1,500 more than for a
Toyota Corolla and $300 above a Honda Civic. At the same time, the
redesigned Elantra's sales rose 40.5% last year from 2010, Autodata reports.
(Car of the year 2012)
Meanwhile, Hyundai's Sonata midsize sedan has been closing on Honda's Accord
and Toyota's Camry in the past decade. U.S. buyers paid 33% more for a
Sonata last year than in 2002, while t... 阅读全帖 |
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w*********g
发帖数: 1055 | 19 toyota等车的redesign呢，也要等个1年？ |
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w*********g
发帖数: 1055 | 20 你要是在意可靠性就压根别考虑大众的车
我要是你，闭着眼都选camry
要是不信，自己多看几个网站，把可靠性排名平均下，高下立现
2012 redesign，我反正看着都喜欢 |
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c*******1
发帖数: 589 | 21 我也推荐accord, 买这个级别的车,又是急着用, 就别考虑是不是要redesign之类的了,
真正实用就行了. 前一阵子买车,这3个车我都看过, 试驾过,还是accord综合感觉最好
. accord做的很均衡, 加速,操控,内饰,reliability,resale value, 油耗, 买车价格,
accord都挺好. |
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w*********g
发帖数: 1055 | 22 你为啥这么fan accord，都到不care redesign的地步了。。
貌似其变速箱一直有问题
honda odyssey貌似也有类似问题
了,
格, |
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c*******1
发帖数: 589 | 23
我没有fan accord, 根据我的试驾感觉说而已, 你要说买个dfbb还要等redesign, 咱俩
想法不一样. 如果我买这个级别的车, 要求的就是实用性, 安全点的代步工具.
楼主要是买passat的话, 做好4,5年内卖掉的打算, 或者买个extend warranty, 价钱好
好砍一砍, 德车的质量肯定不能和日车比, 但底盘扎实, 操控还行.
祝楼主早日买到满意的车, 其实买车挺头疼. |
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l*****g
发帖数: 556 | 24 Quest is about $8k off MSRP now. My sense is the price will drop more. It's
a minor redesign from a model sold in Japan, so might be reliable. The fuel
pump issue (on recall) was the only major complain. The other reason for
its price drop is "acceptable" roof strength rating.
T&C $10K off is a great deal. The dealer want to close facility? If life
time warranty is $2k. Then it's $26k to get a fully loaded minivan with no
worry for any repair cost. But it might be a headache to deal with dea... 阅读全帖 |
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j*****y
发帖数: 2042 | 25 （购买发生在3月下旬，常年潜水得到很多帮助，希望能够回馈些东西）
貌似2012卡宴很热门，本地的三个dealer中两个都排队到5月份之后才开始造，还有一
个说是有可以插队的名额，4月初就能造好。听到这个情况我估计就没什么砍价空间。
试驾是在最近的dealer那里做的，感觉操控还不错，四轮性能一般，不过反正以后off-
road的活也交给现在这俩Jeep Wrangler，所以只要舒服就好。内饰感觉跟Q5差不多，
大概X3走的是另外一条路线，所以领导更喜欢卡宴的风格，看了网上的若干视频后没去
看过Grand Cherokee，觉得大概不需要花那个时间了，大家轻拍。Q7的technology
package太酷了，但是领导不感冒，我也只好摸摸鼻子。加速性能在SUV里面算挺好的了
，也不是特别impressive，比不过X3但是十分接近。
虽然Consumer Report上2011卡宴的满意程度不高，但是据说redesign的第二年都会好
很多，所以领导还是拍板上卡宴。
一切都满意之后，领导指示开始砍价，于是我就上了传统砍价大法：Quote后以最低压
最高。哪想到一轮下来试驾那个deale... 阅读全帖 |
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h****2
发帖数: 69 | 26 看起来不错啊~~
新的2.0T变成225hp 258lbft..多了个3.0T 272hp 295lbft.
更多图片在此：
http://audiusanews.com/imagegallery/view/list/20/79/Q5
2013 Q5 2.0T跟2013 X3 28i比起来哪个更好啊？
Apr 25, 2012 , INGOLSTADT, Germany
High-performance SUV with many talents – the updated Audi Q5
- Completely updated Q5 model series
- New engine-transmission pairings are up to 15 percent more efficient
- Audi connect services set new benchmark for infotainment
Sporty, spacious, comfortable and multifunctional – the Audi Q5 has a
versatile and ... 阅读全帖 |
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a*****1
发帖数: 178 | 27 It is a nice car. The 2013 will redesign. |
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g*****n
发帖数: 2588 | 29 2013 redesigned 新款出来的时候，2012年老款该有促销。不知道为什么Nissan的网站
上没有任何2012款的incentive，2012的Ford Fusion，Chevy Malibu能便宜不少。 |
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a**********s
发帖数: 39 | 30 虽然Rav4也有4wd版本 但是四驱的性能比Subaru要差很多
Rav4下半年要改款(redesign)了 你愿意等的话可能老款会有比较大的降价
相比之下 13款Outback只是中期的refresh，与12款区别有限
从平台来说，Rav4其实是基于compact car(神车烤肉)的平台，Outback则是基于
Midsize car(Legacy)的平台， 这也是一个比较显著的区别，至于这是不是说明
Outback比Rav4高一个class 楼主自行判断 |
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a*****t
发帖数: 454 | 31
外观redesign 见仁见智
ecoboost引擎？
内饰和mpg的区别什么不清楚，， |
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s********k
发帖数: 87 | 32 给你个观望的理由吧。2012的Q5没有搭配AUDI REDESIGN的头灯。看看新款Q7的前脸，
你就知道了。。。 |
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s*********0
发帖数: 2045 | 34 Malibu销量一直挺好，但是大多是上一代2012的。这个review的是2013刚刚complete
redesign，不好说占销量的多少。 |
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l*****g
发帖数: 556 | 35 Redesigned T&C will be launched in late 2013 as 2014 model. Sienna and
Quest might have hybrid model withn 2 modle years as well.
Bottom line: 2012 model year will be soon outdated. |
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i****a
发帖数: 36252 | 36 来自主题: Automobile版 - 福特逃生门 Ford Escape
http://www.latimes.com/business/money/la-fi-mo-ford-escape-reca
Ford recalls 11,500 new Escapes, tells owners not to drive them
Ford Motor Co. said Thursday it will recall 11,500 of its newly redesigned
and just introduced Escape sport utility vehicles to replace a fuel line,
which could split, leak gasoline and set the vehicle on fire.
The automaker took the unusual precaution of warning owners not to drive the
vehicle and to contact their Ford dealer immediately. |
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K*********n
发帖数: 2852 | 37 除非redesign了，否则两年没多少差别。一年后2013也会变旧款的。何况现在2012款会
降价促销 |
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w********o
发帖数: 440 | 38 I am in the same situation, and I bought SUV. The chassis of minivan is
lower than SUV, so that's why you heard a mini-cooper can kill all people in
minivan, no way in SUV because it will just go under.
I would recommend European or American SUV, such as BMW, Volvo, or Ford. For
explorer is fine, and I am waiting for the new redesigned Expedition, check
the wrong-way Expedition collision video on this board. |
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a*****t
发帖数: 454 | 39 不是说redesign的forester明年出了么，，
forester的4AT比较跟不上时代了 |
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a*****t
发帖数: 454 | 40 不过lz想入旧款escape的话价格方面比新的划算多了，，当初我看车的时候MSRP都
delaer直接3k4k往下报价的，，
但是个人意见不管买什么牌子 既然是买新车 那还是买新款的吧 毕竟redesign之后厂
家也会花更多精力update新款而不是停产的旧款
我是不太喜欢tiguan 试车的几辆标配tiguan起步的时候response那个slow啊，，， |
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i*****d
发帖数: 603 | 41 2012年的质量排名基本和2011年相似， FORD和Lexus继2011年今年继续领先。
其中福特获得三种最常见的车型的质量冠军,而小型车的质量冠军仍旧是Toyota
Corolla. Toyota Camry由于质量问题已经7年没有上榜了。 而福特已经稳坐质量最好
的中型车多年。
Ford and Lexus receive three awards. Ford earns awards for the Expedition,
Mustang and Taurus, and Lexus garners awards for the ES 350, LS and RX.
Receiving two segment awards each are Infiniti (EX-Series, M-Series); Nissan
(Frontier, Quest); and Toyota (Corolla, Yaris). The Porsche 911 ranks
highest in the premium sporty segment and achieves 44 PP100, th... 阅读全帖 |
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i****x
发帖数: 17565 | 42 我只是在消费市场上说大规模应用的情况。发明这个技术当然很早。我查了一下，下面
是现代GDI的主要商业应用，最成规模的就是toyota的v6，VW的FSI，BMW的N54，ford的
ecoboost。这几个里NA只有toyota。的我随意说几个大品牌而已，不用较真说每句都错
了吧。
Later systems
In 1996 gasoline direct injection reappeared in the automotive market.
Mitsubishi was the first with a GDI engine in the Japanese market with its
Galant/Legnum's 4G93 1.8 L inline-four.[11] It was subsequently brought to
Europe in 1997 in the Carisma,[12] although Europe's then high-sulfur
unleaded fuel led to emissions problems, and fuel eff... 阅读全帖 |
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T*U
发帖数: 22634 | 43 这车肯定是不能买，一个人几个月就能设计出新外形，1000个工程师几年都不一定能搞
定新发动机。然后号称redesign，这种小打小闹的都是换汤不换药。 |
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T*****e
发帖数: 799 | 44 This is from Associated Press and might be paid by Acura -
Redesigned for 2013, the Acura RDX compact sport utility vehicle is slightly
larger, with a more compliant ride, than its predecessor and has more power
than ever while beating the popular Lexus RX 350 in fuel economy ratings.
The new RDX also has more front- and rear-seat legroom than a Mercedes-Benz
GLK SUV and much more cargo space.
Better still, the revamped-for-2013 RDX is a recommended buy of Consumer
Reports magazine, where it ran... 阅读全帖 |
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d***p
发帖数: 937 | 46 有Engine Throttle 问题，也有自动加速问题。
http://www.detroitnews.com/article/20121005/AUTO0102/210050401/
U.S. reviews request to investigate 1.6M Ford Escape SUVs
Washington — The National Highway Traffic Safety Administration said Friday
it is considering opening a formal investigation into 1.6 million Ford
Escape SUVs for engine problems.
The NHTSA said it had agreed to review a request by the North Carolina
Consumers Council to open an investigation into alleged electronic throttle
body failures resulti... 阅读全帖 |
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T*****e
发帖数: 799 | 47 Sounds like your boss will kick you butt again for the poor job this month.
Just the Facts:
The 2013 Honda Accord and 2013 Nissan Altima are expected to power Honda and
Nissan to their biggest October sales ever in the U.S., according to
Edmunds.com.
Honda's estimated sales in October are poised to top its previous October
high of 114,799; Nissan's projected sales in October could beat the previous
record of 86,626 in 2004.
"These record-breaking numbers are a testament to the American car buyer... 阅读全帖 |
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i****x
发帖数: 17565 | 48 http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/2012/04/understanding-reliab
For new-car buyers we provide a Predicted Reliability Rating that indicates
how vehicles currently on sale are likely to hold up. To create these
Ratings, Consumer Reports averages a model's Used Car Verdicts for the
newest three model years, providing it wasn't significantly redesigned
during that time. Predictions are made for some new models if the
manufacturer's track record or the model's history has been consistently
outstandi... 阅读全帖 |
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l**t
发帖数: 6971 | 49
我倒。。。连Lexus ES是Camry换个马甲这个常识都不知道，还要proof？？
我刚刚查了一下wiki，稍微修正一下我的statement：最新款Lexus ES已经不是Camry的
马甲了，而是更高级的。。。。Avalon的马甲！偶也！
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lexus_ES
“The first five generations of the ES were built on the Toyota Camry
platform.”
“The redesigned ES no longer directly shares the Toyota Camry platform, and
instead is built on the Toyota Avalon platform which is 2 inches (51 mm)
longer.” |
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b****e
发帖数: 1180 | 50 The 2013 Civic gets significant updates inside and out, as Honda responded
to critics who panned the car for its lackluster appearance after a full
redesign 18 months ago. |
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