g***s
发帖数: 17 | 1 最近拿到第一个NIH grant, 很缺乏经验，
第一年的budget是单位的grants officer给填的。
现在突然发现他填了$19K的fringe benefit,
但我们家的health insurance (family plan)最近改成了由我LD那边出(LD的benefit更好)，不打算变了，
结果我们这里的manager说这种情况下单位还是会从我的grant里面拿掉$19K,而不能给我作其他用处 (e.g. research cost).
请问是这样的吗? |
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m*****s
发帖数: 1471 | 2 Isn't fringe benefit standard in each univ.? I don't think it is related to
your health insurance. |
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g***s
发帖数: 17 | 3 what is the use of "fringe benefits" then?
So the institution simply takes this portion out of the grant no matter what?
to |
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g***s
发帖数: 17 | 5 thanks.
so usually how do the institutions spend this money after they take this
portion out of the grant? |
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d***a
发帖数: 13752 | 6 Fringe benefits include retirement plan, health insurance, life insurance,
and some other benefits. Yes, the institution just takes a fixed-ratio
portion out of grants. The part for student support also includes fringe benefits, usually with a lower ratio.
what? |
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g***s
发帖数: 17 | 7 那像我由LD出health insurance的怎么办呢？
还有如果拿到好几个NIH grant, 每一个都必须扣fringe benefits吗？扣了以后都用到
哪里去了呢？
benefits, usually with a lower ratio. |
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d***a
发帖数: 13752 | 8 Doesn't make any difference. That part goes to your university/college/department and they decide how to use it. |
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h********r
发帖数: 519 | 9 看不同的PM, 我的去年career跟你一样，
pm发来了review concerns, 回答完以后，
过了几个礼拜，就收到电话，要求rebudget.
就拿到了。
这个一个very very good sign. congratulation.
if
concerns |
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t**********d
发帖数: 257 | 10 我说的只对我的学校,我的系和我知道的funding agency负责。当然，这个可能对类似
的学校和系都适用。前面有朋友提到的抽10-20%作为summer pay，至少对于我目前拿过
的grants不适用。
* For an NSF grant, you can get at most 2-month salary in any one year. In
fact, no matter how many active NSF grants you have, you can get at most 2-
month salary in total per year.
* Other federal and state agencies, I don't know. I suppose the salary from
these sources is not limited by the 2-month NSF policy.
* If you have industrial grants or gift money, I think you can get as much
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b*****l
发帖数: 3821 | 11 co-PI需要PI愿意subcontract给你。
新的学校的budget里要charge overhead。
旧的学校要rebudget, 一般对subcontract超过25K的部分就不charge overhead了。 |
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b*****d
发帖数: 1900 | 12 Definitely a red flag for audit.
U don't have a budget for equipment. Any charged on equip category will
trigger attention at sponsored program. They won't allow u to do that.
Except NSF pm allowed u to do a rebudget. |
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f*******7
发帖数: 1019 | 13 NIH的spending不都是discretionary的吗？除了大额的equipment重新rebudget需要NIH
approval.
或者你说的是indirect cost recovery into unrestricted spending account? |
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l******o
发帖数: 279 | 14 没有问题,只有不是PI暑期工资变化这种,学校可以决定.
“c. Post-Award
During the performance of a project, it may be appropriate for funds to be
reallocated to support advancement of the project. Awardees have broad
discretion to rebudget within the cost and administrative principles. Unless
otherwise stated in the award or as noted below, the awardee is authorized
to transfer funds from one budget category to another for allowable
expenditures. Significant budget changes that reflect changes in objectives,
scope or in th... 阅读全帖 |
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t*****o
发帖数: 11 | 15 楼主有这样的想法很正常，谁都不愿意看到有人不劳而获，欺负年轻faculty。楼主只
是不够圆滑而已。个人认为既然有65，35的协议，就要遵守，哪怕是个不公平合理的协
议。一般学校只会建一个PI account，所有钱你来管理。理论上你只要发copi工资，学
生support一点不分给copi是可以的，不需要rebudget。但是这样非常非常不好，名声
就臭了。虽然听说过有同胞这么做，但不管什么原因，为了这么点利益，坏了名声，就
得不偿失了。 |
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z****u
发帖数: 1007 | 16 未必。
K grant 的钱说起来是只拿来付工资，但是如果之前已经由学校支付hard money 工资
了，就可以申请对拿到的K grant 做 rebudget. 这样就可以转为支持research. 比R03
可是多不少呢。 |
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M*****t
发帖数: 120 | 17 假设PI已经有了从NSF来的两个月的工资，根据规定，每年不能超过2个月的工资，包括
academic year和summer. 这样问题就来了，对于以后的nsf proposal,看起来是不能给
PI budget任何工资的。 那不给PI任何effort的proposal也可以吗？ 看起来有点怪啊
，作为pi没有任何person-month effort. 如果要在新的proposal给pi 工资，要
rebudget已有的projects了？ 请各位大侠指教！ |
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