p****s
发帖数: 32405 | 1 [译者按: playmaker其实是个很难翻的词, 早在CM3时代(注: 冠军足球经理, EIDOS出
的经典足球游戏)大家就对此争论不休了. 关于它的称呼, "机会创造者"? "中场组织者
"? "场上指挥官"? "灵魂"? "核心"? 似乎都不大贴切. 这里我们暂且保留它的英文叫
法, 让读者在文中自己去体会playmaker的涵义好了.]
本文出自卫报大拿Jonathan Wilson的专栏:
The Question: What is a playmaker’s role in the modern game?
原文地址可见于
http://www.guardian.co.uk/sport/blog/2010/aug/18/what-is-a-playmakers-role-in-modern-game
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久违的playmaker在世界杯上重生了! 这个现象主要归结于4-2-3-1的小风在当下足坛刮
得正紧. 4-2-3-1这个系统想要运转成功, 在"3"那条线上没有一个有创造力的家伙几乎
是不可能的. 我也曾试图追查playmaker的来龙去脉，想观察了解 |
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发帖数: 7263 | 2 绿湾去年放走耿建宁，要不是味精的两毛五搓麻将，应该可以算playmaker
拍子放走歪客，今年也算风生水起吧 |
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发帖数: 111 | 3 don't know whether his word were taken out of context. yeah it's a bit
brutal if that's indeed what he meant. yet this article may reflect better
on his opinion.
http://www.the-ozone.net/football/2012/playmakers.html
“My biggest area (of concern) is the playmakers. Where are they or do we
have them,” Meyer asked himself during his radio appearance.
“When your leading receiving only has 14 catches and one of them is a tight
end, that’s alarming. That’s my biggest concern. Where are our playmakers... 阅读全帖 |
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b*****u
发帖数: 648 | 4 So what gives? How does Jeremy Lin go from getting cut by two mediocre clubs
-- the Golden State Warriors and Houston Rockets, to starring on one of the
league's biggest stages, all within a period of three months?
To find out, we asked some of the league's talent evaluators and here's how
they explained the 6-foot-3 Harvard grad's ascension from undrafted D-
Leaguer to New York Knicks energizer. Lin, who was beaten out by Goran
Dragic and Jonny Flynn for Houston's backup point guard spot in Dec... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 2436 | 5 http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/story?id=7561351&_slug_=is-new-y
So what gives? How does Jeremy Lin go from getting cut by two mediocre clubs
-- the Golden State Warriors and Houston Rockets, to starring on one of the
league's biggest stages, all within a period of three months?
To find out, we asked some of the league's talent evaluators and here's how
they explained the 6-foot-3 Harvard grad's ascension from undrafted D-
Leaguer to New York Knicks energizer. Lin, who was beaten out by Goran
Dra... 阅读全帖 |
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d*****a
发帖数: 453 | 6 But here's the stat that really was a wake up call
Lin TO
Last 9: 2.1
Prior 12: 4
Harden TO
Last 9: 5.1
Prior 12: 2.6
Lin has dramatically cut down on his turnovers while Harden's has increased.
Meanwhile Lin assists have dropped by 3 per game and Harden has stayed
about the same.
What this says is this: Harden is handling the ball a lot more, and isn't
necessarily getting his teammates involved. He is shooting more 3's and
turning the ball over more and scoring a lot less while playing more min... 阅读全帖 |
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h****3
发帖数: 339 | 7 有感于里克尔梅退役。。。发现论坛上不少懂球帝总是喜欢说XXX是古典前腰什么的，
那么古典前腰到底是啥？
我只知道站位上的前腰（attacking midfielder）或者功能上叫前场组织核心(
advanced playmaker)，如果说实况里的经典10号（ classic NO. 10），那个似乎是球
员个人的风格，只要功能上是playmaker都可以这样踢，哪怕是deep-lying playmaker
，这和前腰就没有必然关系了。。。。。。
呃。。。百度百科诸如此类的就算了吧。。。 |
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M*****s
发帖数: 544 | 8 ＂Against the Lakers, playmaker Cassell went down with a back injury. With
reserve point guard Hudson also injured, the Timberwolves alternated between
third playmaker Darrick Martin and shooting guard Fred Hoiberg at the "one"
, or even running Garnett himself as point forward or a real point guard.
The Los Angeles Lakers pulled off a 4–2 series win.＂ |
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发帖数: 1549 | 9 (Be aware this article is written on 2009!!!)
Double Standard 1: Everyone harps on Kobe for playing with Shaq, yet no one
harps on Duncan for having Manu, Parker, Bowen and other amazing players.
Shaq has played in the NBA 17 seasons, he only has 4 rings, he is not an
automatic championship. In fact, he was not even in his physical prime
during the threepeat championship run. He was significantly overweight
almost every season during that run.
Double Standard 2: Duncan has played on a contending... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 1111 | 10 Howard Beck写的几篇文章都很客观，he understands Lin and Knicks situation well.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/09/sports/basketball/for-the-kni
For Knicks, Distraction by Addition
By HOWARD BECK
Published: March 8, 2012
The optics are troubling for any Knicks fan who has spent a moment
poring over the standings or pondering the counterintuitive influence
of Carmelo Anthony.
The Knicks are 2-5 since Anthony rejoined the lineup, after going 6-1
without him. They have lost three consecutive games for the first... 阅读全帖 |
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H**U
发帖数: 1814 | 11 It is clear that it is the coaching staff's decison to take ball out of Lin'
s hands and turn him into a spot-up shooter. When being asked about how Lin
and Harden could mesh well together since they are both good playmakers when
the ball is in their hands, Kelvin Sampson simply states that he has to
give the ball to his best player [Harden] meaning Lin is not even in the
discussion to be considered as a playmaker. Rockets' coaching staff don't
think Lin worth the investment even the team is spe... 阅读全帖 |
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s******1
发帖数: 4987 | 12 恩，骑士防守上急需加强，太能撸回去好好看录像吧。进攻方面，骑士明显输在
playmaker上，勇士的大个都能传球喂球，骑士现在除了老詹其他好像没有什么
playmaker了，欧文单打能力还是掩盖不了策划方面的不足，所以骑士的角色球员和板
凳球员的表现今天非常差，骑士看来是避免不了走英雄球的路线了，live or die with
big three. |
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z**********i
发帖数: 9546 | 13 外线三分，这个其实达到一般标准，是不太难的。当然精于此道是很难得，和别的单项
一样的。
雷霆上赛季的问题，是持球playmake人员r不够。这个不单是控球6不6，需要有足够的
对抗，对抗下处理球，和一些go-to-move。奥拉迪波明显是有潜力，但是还不足以稳定
输出。
问题的来源，可以算是以双少为核心建队的决心太大，内线棒子和防守都配得很好。但
是杜兰特一走，playmaking缺了一大块，维特斯也没留下，一时来不及补充。
下赛季，泡椒怎么说也是合同年，威少得到个人最高荣誉之后，也会有升华，把更多的
精力放在掌控全局。
雷霆肯定会是冠军挑战者。 |
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发帖数: 9546 | 14 最近有不少关于篮球新潮流的说法，偶自己也瞎掰了不少
当然，按权威度，也有凯尔特人教练的三位置说：“持球后卫，摇摆人和内线”。进一
步总结的话，按进攻来讲，篮球场上五人要提供的就是“持球创造”和“无球控制”两
种能力。
NBA从部分联防01-02准入之后，整个格局大变，球员几乎突然就换了一代。防守的率先
发难，触发了进攻的涅槃，最后演化为了现在的“本质篮球”。
简单的说，场上“随时”需要两个可以持球的playmaker，否则进攻生涩，最好例子就
是15总决赛的骑士。而且持球人选几乎是越多越好，参见近三年的勇士阵容。加上替补
的需要，球队至少要有3个主轮换的持球playmaker，比较安全的是四个。
大个子还是需要的，但是由于内线联防夹击绕前的强度，背身进攻几乎没用，导致防守
内线背打的能力，也几乎没用了，参见帕金斯们的消失。鹈鹕双刷几乎是内线进攻体系
最后的希望，因为通过互相配合，牵制对手，或许可以持续创造“准单打”机会。
内外大量的挡拆使用，使得精英单防不再具有统治力，速度和协防成为面包黄油。
以上说法可以解释：
1）哈登配保罗？当然没问题
2）灰熊的一防身价低，磨盘阵被瓦解
3）骑士... 阅读全帖 |
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发帖数: 28835 | 15 we're in the same boat
and a lot of people in both our fan bases don't get it.
i won't get into florida (although a lot of people here don't understand
florida's issues either) because this is a tennessee board. so, this post
will be about tennessee's problems.
but, i'm about to bring unfiltered truth in this post. so, if you can't
handle it, i apologize. but, some of you (although i believe most of you get
it) need to be smacked in the face with reality. keep in mind that what i
am about to pos... 阅读全帖 |
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R*******a
发帖数: 2463 | 16 可谓罄竹难书。
正规的football讲究所有球员各司其责，共同努力。
农民足球讲究playmaker大发神威。
那非playmaker说白了就是在场上装样子，打酱油
长此以往，农民足球对整个球队集体智商的戕害是无以复加的。
我饿至今还在TT走后造成的阴影当中，球员在场上殆如泥塑木雕，行尸走肉。
他狼在霍克来到之后不可谓不奋起，但短时间内农民足球所造成的场上呆蔽症也很难消除
本周他虎将把我饿生吞活剥
场上只见他虎生龙活虎
我饿呆若木鸡
这是历史的必然
是不以个人的意志为转移的
反历史潮流而动且心怀鬼胎的如彪哥之流可以休矣。 |
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发帖数: 12862 | 17 首先天气非常糟糕
球员和fans都很不幸
本周末下午的气温之高打破了德甲联赛41年来的高温记录
以至于要用洒水飞机向现场看球的观众身上淋水以防中暑
leverkusen积6分排名榜首
状态很好
其实今年好象就多了一个巴西人前腰ponte就不一样了
可见playmaker之重要
上赛季由simak和basturk做playmaker始终不成功
把simak今年送回了hanover以后他反而在那里又表现特好了
其实leverkusen好球员不少
去年主要是组织得不好加上伤病所以发挥不出来
另外新教练augenthalor功不可没
他经常亲自在场上带球员一起练防守
他上任后的四场比赛全胜
进10球只失2球
说明该队在防守方面的确进步了
现在leverkusen的主力中后卫是两名巴西国脚lucio和juan
老队长nowotny很快也将复出
只要他们三人一直都保持好的状态
leverkusen本赛季可望成为德甲防守最好的球队之一
leverkusen的management真的是很土
和bayern比起来差太远了
去年在球队鼎盛时候卖掉两员中场大将
惊险保级之后又不思进取
因为财政原因一定要把本 |
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发帖数: 6437 | 18 that's no big deal
as a Middle Center Playmaker, i ran to pick up all the other 9 players in
the field, support these 9, and these 9 also support me.
my running, holding, and passing, directly affect the next minute's play
speed and direction.
it feels really good. that's the TRUE MAGIC, not one pass or one dribble.
especially Old Center teams have no coaches. Therefore, the playmaker, is
the real coach in play.
it is like the director of a movie, or the conductor of a concert. |
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发帖数: 2279 | 19 Goal.com Special Debate:
Lionel Messi vs Diego Maradona – So Who Is Better?
Goal.com's Carlo Garganese compares the two Argentine geniuses…
Apr 7, 2010 4:00:00 PM By Carlo Garganese
Comparing players from different eras is always a difficult task, but
following Lionel Messi’s astonishing four-goal rout of Arsenal in the
Champions League at Camp Nou last night, it is simply impossible not to
compare the little Argentine to his compatriot and idol Diego Armando
Maradona.
Below, we take a look at ... 阅读全帖 |
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a********7
发帖数: 5325 | 20 没有意甲，没有之一，谁还有异议？
当然一周一赛是关键，阵容永远是满员，体力永远是满值，所以越打越有感觉。
另外，虽然现在playmaker打法不流行了，但是睡皮仍然是一朵奇葩。因为他是
playmaker的maker，虽然上半时他助攻了一个，但是更多的时候是，他把球传给谁，谁
就有了助攻的机会。
毛利最近太火，拉齐奥就靠他来蒙了。 |
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发帖数: 1470 | 21 France:
Nasri.
the current midfield does not have any playmakers, and
seriously lack creativity.
Argentina:
Pastore or Conca.
They are not good enough to start in Argentina, but are good substitutes
for Messi or Di Maria in the #10 role.
Portugal:
Tiago (Atletico Madrid)
he is good deep-lying playmaker, and together with Moutinho,
can make a great middlefield. Mereilles is no longer that good. |
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a**********r
发帖数: 241 | 23 The most important is the invisible.
刚刚从playmakers的小王子回来。
自从十多年前看过这本书后，
就一直在留意各式各样的改编。
前年回北京时在新街口淘到过一张英国做的音乐剧，
不料看了没有五分钟就被演小王子的人的声音吓着了。
还是看书安全。
这次还是决定试一次，
大概是因为playmakers的照片做得比较合胃口吧，
所以一听说有小王子上演就迫不及待地满世界传话。
戏剧和影视剧相比的特点大概就是“在场，”
看着演员们在面前表现出光怪陆离的一幕一幕，
用肉眼而非深镜头去观察那些往往被忽视的细节。
喜欢剧组的创造性。
日落怎么会这么美呢？
难道是非洲的舞蹈都是讲太阳的故事？
还是因为这是在撒哈拉？
光线是一缕一缕的橙红绸布，
还有那群歌者的低吟，
又想起多年前那首老歌了，visions of sunset。
猴面包树和狐狸的创意最可爱，
baobab听着还以为是"熊"面包(bearbread):)
绿绿的手套们不厌其烦地骚扰着恋人们，
狐狸的样子很好玩，
乍一看像个忍者神狐，
仔细看看原来睫毛还超长，
满眼的无辜相。
fox是小王子来地球后第一 |
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发帖数: 29846 | 24 Dr. Hanson：美国总统已经变成了一个虚拟职位，半数美国人和大部分媒体不管怎么样
都维护，剩下的人靠自己奋斗
Is Obama Still President?
His cadences soar on, through scandal after fiasco after disaster.
By Victor Davis Hanson
We are currently learning whether the United States really needs a president
. Barack Obama has become a mere figurehead, who gives speeches few listen
to any more, issues threats that scare fewer, and makes promises that almost
no one believes he will keep. Yet America continues on, despite the fact
that the foreign ... 阅读全帖 |
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h******x
发帖数: 10156 | 25 from blackfday.com
http://www.blackfday.com/blackfday-sears.pdf
2-pk. Auto Travel Bottles $6.99
Amor All Gift Kit $11.99
Brake Service (must present coupon from ad) 15% off
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DieHard Battery Charger/Maintainer $19.99
DieHard Dual-rate Battery Charger $29.99
DieHard Portable Power 750 $39.99
DieHard Wheeled Battery Charger / ... 阅读全帖 |
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h******x
发帖数: 10156 | 26 【 以下文字转载自 ebiz 讨论区 】
发信人: happylux (mike), 信区: ebiz
标 题: Sears Black Friday 2010 ad
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Mon Nov 8 07:51:06 2010, 美东)
from blackfday.com
http://www.blackfday.com/blackfday-sears.pdf
2-pk. Auto Travel Bottles $6.99
Amor All Gift Kit $11.99
Brake Service (must present coupon from ad) 15% off
Cobra 9-Band Radar Detector w/ Laser Eye $29.99 EB
Comfort Cushion $15.99
Craftsman Digital Air Gauge $14.99
DieHard 12-ft. Booster Cable $14.99
DieHard Battery Charger $39.99
DieHard Battery Char... 阅读全帖 |
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v*******y
发帖数: 1586 | 27 TMAC当时得分能力感觉不行了已经
主要是PLAYMAKER
他的传球是我见过的非PG中最好的
LBJ现在也在传球，但是总带点刻意的感觉
不自然 |
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s**********n
发帖数: 868 | 28 Iggy是不错的playmaker，不球霸，每场大概有5Ass吧，能弥补小布的无脑，这点比
Martin强不少，所以我一直更像换来Iggy。 |
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x*******1
发帖数: 28835 | 29 turkey is a playmaker. alston is a good pg who knows how to play with
center. |
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p*a
发帖数: 3350 | 30 第一点就行不通
哥他上来时候，凯子几乎不用防他。魔术这种鸟队靠的是三分，常规赛每场球就扔30几
个。不防哥他，人都去放外线，魔术死的更快
魔术和凯子的区别是，凯子谁都可以单打，魔术依赖Playmaker。这点上看放弃土鸡绝对
失误。土鸡这个队员可能一般，但和魔术绝配
。。 |
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n**y
发帖数: 11447 | 31 今天rondo萎了，全靠pp死撑了
凯这点比较牛，有rondo和pp俩playmaker |
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K*4
发帖数: 1808 | 32 4 out of 6 SI "Experts" pick against the Lakers in Game 7
2010 NBA Finals Game 7 Predictions
Ian
THOMSEN
Celtics 92 Lakers 89
The Lakers have the best player, but Boston's depth of big-time playmakers
will prevail in a game like this. I count eight Celtics -- the four current
or former All-Stars in their starting lineup, plus Rasheed Wallace, Glen
Davis, Nate Robinson and little-used Michael Finley, a three-point shooter
with the potential to become this game's Steve Kerr -- who have it in them |
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p*a
发帖数: 3350 | 33 貌似介帮人每次都说反
playmakers
current
shooter
them |
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g*****g
发帖数: 34805 | 34 来自主题: Basketball版 - 典韦发话了 Heat star Dwyane Wade has two All-Stars alongside him now in LeBron James
and Chris Bosh, but he doesn't expect his role to change on the court.
"The same pretty much," Wade told CBS Sports.
"You know, I handled the ball a lot last season in Miami. I also played off
the ball a lot. I don't think that changes a lot. I'm a playmaker, and I'm
going to score. At the end of the day, my job is to put the ball in the
basket. I'm also going to create opportunities for my teammates, and that
won't change |
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B****t
发帖数: 1702 | 35 有时候觉得西部应该打第六人，哈等应该主控，哈等playmaking的能力比西部要好 |
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D********5
发帖数: 550 | 36 波士顿现在最好的playmaker，一对一突破成功率最高的球员。
波士顿现在整体缺乏速度和athleticism，更多的依靠走战术和掩护之类的play，隆多
没了最直接的威胁，加上缺少攻防转换时候的抢攻，波士顿进攻就显得乏力。
现在凯子的防守和篮板确实不比当年，今年季后赛过第一轮都够费力，应该过不了第二
轮。 |
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S**********y
发帖数: 1549 | 37 With reserve point guard Hudson also injured, the Timberwolves alternated
between third playmaker Darrick Martin and shooting guard Fred Hoiberg at
the "one", or even running Garnett himself as point forward or a real point
guard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Garnett |
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S**********y
发帖数: 1549 | 38 发信人: StephenCurry (FutureStar), 信区: Basketball
标 题: Re: 5个kg能不能搞过5个lbj？
发信站: BBS 未名空间站 (Thu May 12 16:43:03 2011, 美东)
With reserve point guard Hudson also injured, the Timberwolves alternated
between third playmaker Darrick Martin and shooting guard Fred Hoiberg at
the "one", or even running Garnett himself as point forward or a real point
guard.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_Garnett |
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s*****q
发帖数: 364 | 40 The team is most giddy about Lin's ability to run the point. Chandler said
the pick-and-roll play Lin runs is among the top three he's experienced in
his career. D'Antoni said he was most impressed on Monday when Shumpert was
standing in front of sharpshooter Steve Novak near the 3-point line—Lin
yelled for Shumpert to get out of the way and passed the ball to Novak, who
made the three. "You can't explain the game all the time and he knows the
game," D'Antoni said. |
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J********9
发帖数: 36508 | 42 very good！~ Leader!!
was
who |
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A***a
发帖数: 144 | 43 那个球是非常漂亮，属于不能言传的场上统领能力．从这个角度来说，他从小在弱队里
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G*********r
发帖数: 538 | 49 有人贴过这个没有？
NBA Draft Preview 2010: Jeremy Lin, G Harvard
by Ed Weiland
Any team looking to find a starting PG in the 2010 NBA draft had best win
the lottery and get the top pick. A year after the legendary PG draft of
2009, the pickings for playmakers are going to be thin. That doesn’t mean
there won’t be a player or two who surprise the experts though.
The best candidate to pull off such a surprise might be Harvard’s Jeremy
Lin. The reason is two numbers Lin posted, 2-point FG pct and RSB40. Lin... 阅读全帖 |
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s*******g
发帖数: 1607 | 50 Everyone knows how important a playmaking PG is to the success of a team, to
its chemistry, to how happy other players are. But looking back, who's the
last great facilitating PG to win a championship?
It has been a long time since the NBA assists leader hoisted the o'brien
trophy with his team, the last one to do it was Magic with the '86-87 lakers.
The last semi-allstar PGs to win are parker and billups (kidd was a former
shell of himself last year so I didn't count him in), to find the last ... 阅读全帖 |
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